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Jed
03-18-2005, 02:40 PM
http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=entertainmentNews&storyID=2005-03-18T085249Z_01_DEN830004_RTRUKOC_0_FILM-3D.xml


LAS VEGAS (Hollywood Reporter) - George Lucas is such a fan of the latest 3-D technology that he is planning to remaster all of the "Star Wars" films for rerelease in 3-D.

Appearing as part of a sextet of high-profile directors promoting 3-D and digital cinema at film industry convention ShoWest on Thursday, Lucas said he hadn't yet committed to a precise schedule but hoped to have the first film ready for the 30th anniversary of the original "Star Wars" movie in 2007 and that he would then rerelease one "Star Wars" film per year in 3-D.

Lucas was joined by James Cameron, Robert Zemeckis, Robert Rodriguez and Randal Kleiser. Peter Jackson joined the group via a pretaped 3-D segment. They all implored the exhibition community to invest in digital projectors, which would allow theatres to show their upcoming movies in 3-D.

Cameron is in preproduction on the 3-D film "Battle Angel," planned for a 2007 release. Zemeckis has two 3-D features in production, and Rodriguez is readying "The Adventures of Shark Boy & Lava Girl in 3-D" for release in the summer. Jackson, who is currently filming "King Kong," announced no specific 3-D plans, but according to sources he has installed a 3-D master suite in his production offices in New Zealand.

The filmmakers showed clips of their earlier work -- some of which was filmed in 3-D and some of which has been converted to 3-D -- and promoted digital 3-D during a screening sponsored by Texas Instruments' DLP Cinema.

DIGITAL ADVOCATE

Lucas' appearance in support of digital projection created a moment of deja vu for ShoWest attendees who had seen the filmmaker advocate digital cinema before the release of "Star Wars: Episode II --Attack of the Clones" when he proclaimed that the movie would screen in 1,000 d-cinema theatres.

"I'm sort of the proverbial digital penny that keeps showing up every other year," Lucas joked. "(Each time I am) saying, 'Why haven't you got those projectors in the theatres yet?'"

Lucas said he has seen many 3-D tests in the past 25 years, but because of advances in digital cinematography, postproduction and projection, the time has come for 3-D to become a more mainstream moviegoing experience.

To prove that point, he showed clips from the original "Star Wars: Episode IV -- A New Hope" and the most recent "Star Wars: Episode II -- Attack of the Clones" that had been "dimensionalized," or converted into 3-D, in postproduction by the Agoura Hills, Calif.-based firm In-Three.

"It's really a beautiful system, and one of the reasons I'm promoting it today is I'm extremely anxious to reissue that old group of films I did so long ago in a galaxy far away," Lucas said. "When you see some of this test footage, it's shockingly good, and you can see how people would want to go see it. It means we can repurpose a lot of old movies, and at the same time it really gives a whole new dimension to the movies we're making now."

Jackson joined the others to lend his support to "one of the most exciting developments in cinema in a long, long time."

"It's not just the use of digital projection, which we all know is on the horizon," Jackson said. "But that the particular technology can be used to create three-dimensional movies that go far beyond the quality and the spectacle of anything we've ever seen before. Forget the old days of wearing the red and blue glasses and the eyestrain. All of that is behind us now. These new active glasses that you're wearing and seeing 3-D with are a breakthrough in technology."

Jackson screened remastered portions from the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy that featured a looming Gollum and battle dust that virtually fell onto the audience.

"I'm a man on a mission when it comes to 3-D," Cameron said. "I will be making all of my films in 3-D in the future. We need exhibition to come in to own a big chunk of the (emerging 3-D) market."

IG-64
03-18-2005, 02:54 PM
Because 3D owns your face. End of story.

*ducks*

X)


[EDIT]

Wait, what kinda 3d are we talking about? >_>

Is this some kinda new 3D glasses technology I don't know about?

ZBomber
03-18-2005, 02:55 PM
Meh, Lucas can do anything as long as Episode III doesn't suck.

El Sitherino
03-18-2005, 03:02 PM
<_< I actually would like to see star wars pop out of the screen.

... OMG IMAGINE THE DEATHSTAR AND THE STAR DESTROYERS! AND THE MILLENIUM FALCON FLYING TOWARD YOU! \o/

... excuse me as I change my pants.

swphreak
03-18-2005, 03:31 PM
Gah, 3-D sucks, especially for people that the 3-D glasses won't work.

El Sitherino
03-18-2005, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
Gah, 3-D sucks, especially for people that the 3-D glasses won't work. You must have horrible depth perception if it doesn't work. That or you got defective glasses.

*shrugs* I think it'd be awesome, so whatever.

IG-64
03-18-2005, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
You must have horrible depth perception if it doesn't work. That or you got defective glasses.

*shrugs* I think it'd be awesome, so whatever.

He means if you have one eye.

Hermie
03-18-2005, 03:47 PM
I have a bad feeling about this...




What will the next be?!

Star Wars - The Musical?
Star Wars - From a ewoks point of view?
Star Wars - The flash cartoon?
Star Wars - The christmas special?
Star Wars - As acted out by cosplaying fans?



Imagine if Steven Spielberg or Akira Kurosawa started to "fix up" their classics...
*shakes head*

legameboy
03-18-2005, 03:51 PM
W00t! I can't wait to see Star Wars is 3D! :D

El Sitherino
03-18-2005, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by IG-64
He means if you have one eye. That doesn't matter these days, They now make glasses in which a single lens does the job that the two lenses did. You no longer have to have the one blue lens, one red lens. They now make glasses in which they're combined into a single lens, in both slots.

Even if they didn't why would a cyclops buy the 3-d version?

IG-64
03-18-2005, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
That doesn't matter these days, They now make glasses in which a single lens does the job that the two lenses did. You no longer have to have the one blue lens, one red lens. They now make glasses in which they're combined into a single lens, in both slots.

Even if they didn't why would a cyclops by the 3-d version?

Huh? You can't have depth perception with one eye, that would bend the space-time continuum. >_>

El Sitherino
03-18-2005, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by IG-64
Huh? You can't have depth perception with one eye, that would bend the space-time continuum. >_> Oh right... (Wasn't thinking about that >_<) my last point still stands. :)

Why would a cyclops buy the 3-d version?

Astrotoy7
03-19-2005, 12:52 AM
yeah, I remember hearing about this. Idont see the harm in it. Does a theatre need to be specially equipped to allow viewing of 3d movies... I'd rather watch the whole saga on imax :D

mtfbwya

Sabretooth
03-19-2005, 12:59 AM
Well, Star Wars isn't dying after all...

Darth Groovy
03-19-2005, 02:10 AM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
<_< I actually would like to see star wars pop out of the screen.

... OMG IMAGINE THE DEATHSTAR AND THE STAR DESTROYERS! AND THE MILLENIUM FALCON FLYING TOWARD YOU! \o/

... excuse me as I change my pants.

:wstupid: And I don't care how less any of you think of me. The curiosity alone is damn near killing me.

lukeiamyourdad
03-19-2005, 10:55 AM
It sounds cool. It's not like he's thinking of making the OT fully CGI or something.

Doomie
03-19-2005, 12:25 PM
Whatever. If this turns out bad, we'll still have the DVD's, and the original OT, and the special edition...

Soon, there will be enough OT's to fill a star destroyer!

The Seeker
03-19-2005, 12:32 PM
[whiny fanboy voice] GL is ONCE AGAIN desecrating his own property that he owns the rights to. I mean, when does it stop. First, he makes the old grey crappy looking OT look better by digitally remastering it, then, and this is where it really get's horrible, he makes it tie in better with the prequal trilogy by adding a few things here and there to help with continuity. I mean, he should just get a grip and go back to using strings on miniatures for the SFX and give us all the film experience we fell in love with when we were pre-pubescent children and not half as whiny as today. [/whiny fanboy voice] :rolleyes: just staying ahead of the curve. :p

I for one applaude GL for keeping SW in the news, which whether folks like the idea or not, doesn't matter, cause the fans who are, like me, between casual and hardcore which I have found to be the majority will be thrilled by the new stuff and a new way to enjoy SW that it will be a smashing success as long as it looks and plays well.

I'm really looking forward to any advanced incarnations of SW that make it look better than some old B movie.

swphreak
03-19-2005, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
Why would a cyclops buy the 3-d version?

Maybe they'd like to see it? Oh no! They're not allowed! :rolleyes:

legameboy
03-19-2005, 01:33 PM
Originally posted by JediKnight_114
I for one applaude GL for keeping SW in the news, which whether folks like the idea or not, doesn't matter, cause the fans who are, like me, between casual and hardcore which I have found to be the majority will be thrilled by the new stuff and a new way to enjoy SW that it will be a smashing success as long as it looks and plays well.

I'm really looking forward to any advanced incarnations of SW that make it look better than some old B movie.

I agree whole-heartedly.

Dagobahn Eagle
03-19-2005, 07:40 PM
I think he means 3D as in IMAX theatre 3D. And if I'm not mistaken and that's it, it'll rule:eek:.

Redwing
03-19-2005, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by lukeiamyourdad
It sounds cool. It's not like he's thinking of making the OT fully CGI or something.

*Agrees*

So does this make this the Super-Special-Special Edition? (NOW IN 3D!!!)

edlib
03-19-2005, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by Herminator
Imagine if Steven Spielberg... started to "fix up" their classics...
*shakes head*
Uh... I don't have to imagine it: On my DVD version of ET he has done exactly that.

We all bitch when Lucas re-does a version of SW: OT... yet we all know that we will dutifully go out and see/ buy them anyways...

And besides; if he "Fixes" the Han/ Greedo scene once and for all everybody will proclaim it as the best version ever.

:joy:

swphreak
03-20-2005, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by edlib
And besides; if he "Fixes" the Han/ Greedo scene once and for all everybody will proclaim it as the best version ever.


First shot is going to go into the audience. :p

El Sitherino
03-20-2005, 12:31 AM
Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
Maybe they'd like to see it? Oh no! They're not allowed! :rolleyes: Except that we just covered it wouldn't work for them. Thus the question.

swphreak
03-20-2005, 01:09 AM
Because people would still want to see it, but it would be pointless.

Seph
03-20-2005, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
You must have horrible depth perception if it doesn't work. That or you got defective glasses.

*shrugs* I think it'd be awesome, so whatever. i find that offensive for people with one eye, and pirates

The Seeker
03-20-2005, 01:14 PM
Wow, from discussing George Lucas's questionable sanity to deapth perception in under thirty posts.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/forumfun/misc5.jpg

Nalukai
03-20-2005, 02:34 PM
QUOTE:

What will the next be?!

Star Wars - The Musical?

yep along with "Star Wars

# the Toilet Paper"
# the Doll"
# the Breakfast Cereal"
# the Coloring Book"
# the T-Shirt"
# the Flame Thrower"
# the Plate"
# the Towel"
# the Video"
# the Sheets"
# the Placemat"
# the Shaving Cream"

Originally posted by Herminator
Imagine if Steven Spielberg... started to "fix up" their classics...
*shakes head*

tru "ET cell-phone home" or "ET MSN Home" ^^

edlib
03-20-2005, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
First shot is going to go into the audience. :p
Actually, what I heard is that Han isn't going to shoot at all. Jar-Jar is going to stumble in and take Greedo out totally by accident.

Then he tags along with the heros for the rest of the movie, as well as the next 2. He's the one who eventually throws the Emperor down the shaft at the end of ROTJ.
:dozey:

•-BLaCKouT-•
03-20-2005, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Herminator
QUOTE:
What will the next be?!
Star Wars - The Musical?

...was that a joke Hermie? I mean, you know that there is one (http://www.starwars.com/community/news/2005/03/news20050304.html), right?

There are clips of it in Starwoids (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0283008/), looks quite entertaining in a kitsch kind of a way ;)

Oh, and Nalukai, you know that at least 9 of the items in your list of 12 do exist already, right?

[/geek] :)

B.

Alegis
03-20-2005, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by Herminator
or Akira Kurosawa started to "fix up" their classics...
Akira died in '98

Sounds kewl. Lasers flying right next to you.

"GL is ONCE AGAIN desecrating his own property that he owns the rights to."
How dares he!

El Sitherino
03-20-2005, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
Because people would still want to see it, but it would be pointless. *shrugs* Works for me.

Originally posted by Nalukai
yep along with "Star Wars

# the Toilet Paper"
# the Doll"
# the Breakfast Cereal"
# the Coloring Book"
# the T-Shirt"
# the Plate"
# the Towel"
# the Video"
# the Sheets"
# the Placemat"
Hurray for 1977 - 1993 (and resumed in 1996)! \o/

XERXES
03-21-2005, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
That doesn't matter these days, They now make glasses in which a single lens does the job that the two lenses did. You no longer have to have the one blue lens, one red lens. They now make glasses in which they're combined into a single lens, in both slots.

Even if they didn't why would a cyclops buy the 3-d version? Close but not quite...

Originally posted by JediKnight_114
[whiny fanboy voice] GL is ONCE AGAIN desecrating his own property that he owns the rights to. Yes, ep 1 and 2 were total crap. But the opportunity to see the original trilogy on the big screen once again should make any real star wars fan jump in their seat. And in 3D? You are not even in a position to whine on this one...

Unless you have one eye, if so then I humbily apologize. (you wold still go see it anyways :p )

toms
03-21-2005, 09:51 AM
I have no problem with updating the technology of the old films.... its just like restoring the picture and remastering the sound from mono to 5.1 when they make the dvds.

The only problem I have with lucas is trying to update the CONTENT of the films.

Do a director's cut if you have to (and were screwed over by the studio or something) but then just leave it!

Having version after version of slightly changed movies doesn't help things. YOu would always do things differently when you look back on things, but that isn't to say you didn't do it right at the time.
And if you then prevent people getting the original version it is even worse.

A chance to watch the originals on the big screen is always welcome. But if he KEEPS re-releasing them too often he is going to wear out his welcome and people will get fed up.

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This 3d tech sounds interesting. Does it even need glasses? But directors shouldn't concentrate too much on the technology over the content. That is how you end up with shallow films that date quickly. Many of the early 70s 3D experiments (such as jaws 3D) look terrible when you watch them on tv, not just because the 3d doesn't work, but because without the 3D effects there is no plot, no characters, no decent film.

Similiarly, many of the 90s early CGi-fest films have also dated badly, as there was no depth to the plot. So once the "amazing cgi effects" stopped looking so amazing there was no reason to watch the film.

Rodriguez used 3D in spy kids 3... which was an absolutely terrible film (the first two rocked) because all it was was a series of set piece 3D scenes linked together with a paper thin plot.

and those cgi updates to the OT mamaged to last about 6 months before looking far more fake than the old model based stuff. Even with the updates for the DVD set they still look obviously fake. So, new tech isn't always the answer...

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I wonder if this tech will work on dvd/home systems?

The one thing i don't look forward to is having to buy all my dvds again in HD-DVD format, then a year later buy them again in 3d format.

El Sitherino
03-21-2005, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by toms
I wonder if this tech will work on dvd/home systems? Yes, it has for about a decade. I even remember ABC's TGIF slot had an entire night where all the shows were broadcast in 3d, they sent everyone glasses in the mail. I remember it working pefectly fine.

Nalukai
03-21-2005, 10:32 AM
meh I know all those exist foo.... that is an excerpt from Spaceballs.......the joke....

gah

The Seeker
03-21-2005, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by XERXES
Close but not quite...

Yes, ep 1 and 2 were total crap. But the opportunity to see the original trilogy on the big screen once again should make any real star wars fan jump in their seat. And in 3D? You are not even in a position to whine on this one...

Unless you have one eye, if so then I humbily apologize. (you wold still go see it anyways :p )

Yeah, I was being sarcastic about all the folks who whine about updates then go and see it with the rest of us anyway. I am looking forward to anymore chances of seeing SW on the big screen. Especially since I have two little brothers who have only seen the prequals up close and personal. So, to GL, I say let's see it.

That also goes for Quentin Tarantino and the Kill Bill movies which I didn't see on the big screen. I wish he would release them as one and take out the out of color fight in the club at the end. I mean it's rated R may as well let us enjoy it.

Kurgan
03-22-2005, 07:49 PM
Seeing them in 3-D would be a neat gimmick. I agree, it's changing the CONTENT (and then trying to phase out the originals) that bothers me, not updating the format its on or cleaning it up for enhanced experiences.

I've seen IMAX 3-D (the Space Station movie, I have yet to see the new "Of the Deep" ones but they sound cool).

Very nice. You wear rayban style sunglasses that combine two images. You get a bit disorented walking out of the theater (some people get headaches) but you recover in a few minutes.

Since the movies weren't originally shot for 3-D they might not look as cool as one created for it, but at least the content behind the movies we KNOW is good, so we need not worry about that part.

For the home market you just layer two images overlapping on the screen and then wear the glasses that put them together. It's an effect we already have for some video games and stuff, it's just not used much. It can work with existing material, you just use up more resources rendering the same image twice.

As for Kill Bill, I'm not a huge fan, and I understand the reason for the black & white scene but despite that, I think it adds to the artistry of the movie and is in keeping with the whole retro theme of it all. Making it color again takes that novelty away.

The Seeker
03-22-2005, 08:50 PM
As for Kill Bill, I'm not a huge fan, and I understand the reason for the black & white scene but despite that, I think it adds to the artistry of the movie and is in keeping with the whole retro theme of it all. Making it color again takes that novelty away.

Yeah, I suppose so. Truthfully, I didn't think anything of it the first time I saw it, but when I heard it had been dumbed down for domestic audiences and kept whole for those overseas, it just kind of irked me.

But whether it is changed or not, I would pay far more than standard movie price to see a full length Kill Bill on the big screen, let alone in 3D.

Vikinor
03-22-2005, 10:19 PM
Freaking Awesome! Give me the 3-D Star Wars big screen TV and surround sound! I already have 2 of those in my house so now it's a matter of the 3-D and getting permission to watch it on the big TV. BIG IDEA! They should make a Star Wars theater where your in the big circle thingy. I think it's called an Imax theatre or something.