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Tokarev
04-04-2005, 01:38 PM
Pretty much searching and I'm looking at getting a mini-model aswell as I don't need the high capacity for anything else (unless someone can find a 10GB model ;p). I've heard some good things about Dell DJ from a few and wondered if anyone might have one to share their experience. I think iPod is pretty much out of the question for their over-pricing.

El Sitherino
04-04-2005, 01:41 PM
Zen touch > Dell DJ.

Tokarev
04-04-2005, 01:43 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
Zen touch > Dell DJ.

How plausible.

Jed
04-04-2005, 05:46 PM
Don't know much about the Dell...how about a Rio Carbon? I've heard great things about those, and they're real comfy in the palm of your hand.

TiE23
04-04-2005, 05:54 PM
Originally posted by Jed
Don't know much about the Dell...how about a Rio Carbon? I've heard great things about those, and they're real comfy in the palm of your hand. Nah, those are only 1.5gb and are weird lookin.
Get the Zen Micro, 10 colors, 4, 5, and 6gb models ($180, $200, $250) ATM the 5gb is only available. And in June there will be a camera version for $300)

'Bout the same size of a Mini and a little lighter, and if you're lucky, you will get a free second battery! :D

Link (http://www.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=213&subcategory=214&product=10795)
Good Review: http://www.justdiscounted.com/zen_micro.php

TiE

Tokarev
04-04-2005, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by TiE 23
Nah, those are only 1.5gb and are weird lookin.
Get the Zen Micro, 10 colors, 4, 5, and 6gb models ($180, $200, $250) ATM the 5gb is only available.

5GB is about all I need.

TheOutrider
04-04-2005, 06:18 PM
Why not get an iPod?

Heard quite a few good things about those, but I think some you can't carry around in the palm of your hand :confused: .

Tokarev
04-04-2005, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by TheOutrider
Why not get an iPod?

Heard quite a few good things about those, but I think some you can't carry around in the palm of your hand :confused: .

For how much they are... Not worth it to me.. It's all over-priced anyways.

El Sitherino
04-04-2005, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by TiE 23
Nah, those are only 1.5gb

No they aren't (http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_accessories.asp?model=267)

Astrotoy7
04-04-2005, 08:20 PM
I dunno bout these mp3 players :p Damn lotta money to pay for something that mainly plays some music :) I got a pocket pc for much much less than an iPod, it plays music(has excellent music software you can get for it, including a winamp port)...

At the end of the day it comes down to the amount of music you want to carry around

The pocket pcs/palms have a wariety of storage media. I have a 1gb SD card. It suits my purposes nicely. I have about 200 tracks on there(more than enough for me). I also usually have a cpl of *full* movies on there, depending on what Im doing(eg. good for long trips) There is also an *excellent* program that I use all the time that emulates gb/gba/snes/nes/genesis games *perfectly* = freakin awesome... :D Ive been playing sonic 3 and chrono trigger for the last week or 2. No probs at all :)

add to that things like wi-fi and bluetooth capabilities, not to mention being able to use it for work stuff, my lil pocket pc is invaluable and I wouldnt swap it for a 40gb musical monstrosity ... so yeah, it just depends what your needs are fella :)

the ones mentioned seem to get good write ups.. Grooves seemed to have a cool rig.... maybe he can give you a review :)

anyways, whatever you decide on, happy spendin !!

mtfbwya

ZBomber
04-04-2005, 09:02 PM
Well, I can get all my Aerosmith, guns N Roses, and AC/DC songs on my MP3 Player in WMA format, and it only takes up like 1.3 GB. So, unless you have a ****-load of songs, you shouldn't need anything over 5 gig.

I have a Zen Xtra 40 GB....

Pedantic
04-04-2005, 11:46 PM
I have an old 3G iPod (15GB). Well worth the price you pay, IMO. You could try getting a 3G model on eBay. I'll bet the prices for them have plummeted, and there's really not that much difference between 3G and 4G models (besides the scroll pad), at least as far as I can tell.

KBell
04-04-2005, 11:59 PM
Originally posted by ZBomber

I have a Zen Xtra 40 GB....

What he said....only I have the 30GB :D

Costs as much as the iPod mini, but has nearly 25 more GBs of space.......so you're just payin for size.

toms
04-05-2005, 08:01 AM
I've got an Archos Gmini XS200 which is about the size of an ipod mini but 20gb. Nice player, but very simple (eg: only two buttons and no extra fancy features)

But it sounds like you only need a 5Gb one, so there's no point in getting a huge jukebox one. I'd go with a Zen or a Carbon personally, as the ipod minis seem overpriced. But ipods still have the best UI.

I think this one is the coolest looking 5gb one around, though the reviews have been average:
http://dapreview.net/reviews/oly_mrobe_100/oly_rev_05.jpg

http://www.dapreview.net/content.php?review.149
Wonder if it has had a firmware update to improve it?

There are a few nice looking OLED display units coming out as well.

If you want a tiny flash unit to throw around then buying a no-name usb-stick type one off ebay is probably by far the cheapest. Pretty much all mini flash drives are the same, so you might as well buy the cheapest, or the one you like the look of most.
The Cowon iAudio ones look funky too.

Captain Wilson
04-05-2005, 08:09 AM
Zen touch. Mines not failed me yet

El Sitherino
04-05-2005, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Captain Wilson
Zen touch. Mines not failed me yet Ditto. I've been able to use the battery for up to 28 hours. 20 gigs of storage, its awesome.

toms
04-06-2005, 08:18 AM
Awesome. but huge. Its nearly 3 times the size of my 20Gb gmini. :D (though i'm sure it has a few more features packed in).

But since he doesn't want anything as big as a 20gb drive its not really that useful. ;)

Though, if you have a reasonable cd collection (and can be bothered to rip them all) and a few downloaded tracks its amazing how much space you can fill up, especially if you want to leave some space for the future.

I can't find many 10-15GB drives around though... seems you have to have either 5gb, or jump to about 20gb.

El Sitherino
04-06-2005, 08:25 AM
Originally posted by toms
Awesome. but huge. It fits in my palm.... so either I have huge wookiee hands, or it's actually not huge. ;)

toms
04-06-2005, 08:43 AM
Sony are starting to bring out some nice little players, and now that they have started to support actual MP3s (!) on their mp3 players thay aren't totally out of the picture.

This one they just announced has a few cool features, is tiny and 20Gb: http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news.php?newsId=1080

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Zen Touch 20Gb: 4.1 in x 2.7 in x 0.90 in - 7.1oz = 10 in3
Ipod 4th 20Gb...: 4.1 in x 2.4 in x 0.57 in - 5.6oz = 5.6in3
Gmini XS 20Gb...: 2.9 in x 2.3 in x 0.75 in - 4.3oz = 5in3

I know which one i'd rather have in my pocket
:D

Tokarev
04-06-2005, 01:17 PM
I may have decided what I'll be getting, so now I'm looking into headphones.. Is Sennheiser a good brand? I'm looking at neck band headphones for the most part.

http://shop.sennheiserusa.com/retail2002/images/catalog/PMX60_normal.jpg
http://www.sennheiserusa.com/newsite/productdetail.asp?transid=004917

ET Warrior
04-06-2005, 02:21 PM
Be extravagant, go for some noise cancelling headphones.

Something like these perhaps (http://us.creative.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=16&product=4938)

For only 40 bucks, not too bad.

And as for the Dell DJ (I know, I'm late into this thread..) I have a friend who had one, but it broke, the buttons stopped working and he couldn't control the music anymore. That's the only experience I have with them.

Tokarev
04-06-2005, 02:30 PM
As it is, headphones tend to annoy me, so I'm going for light weight for the most part.

El Sitherino
04-06-2005, 05:22 PM
Get HD497's if you get Sennheiser.

toms
04-07-2005, 11:53 AM
CNET headphone reviews:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4502-6468_7-0.html?tag=srch&qt=&orderby=-7eRating

Sennheiser make the best "big" "professional" headphones you can get. Lots of musicians use them.

Their portable headphones don't really stand out over anyone else though.
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Electronic noise-cancelling headphones aren't really much better than decent in-ear plugs.

Those weird looking little in-ear "Isolator" headphones seem to get good reviews, but aren't cheap.

If i remember correctly a lot of sites use these Shure E3Cs as reverence headphones.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4505-6468_7-30612174.html?tag=also

Though with an mp3 player sound quality isn't the primary concern, as no matter how good the player and te headphones the sound quality is never going to be stellar.

Tokarev
04-08-2005, 12:54 AM
I'm only looking for light weight, but thanks for your help everyone. I'm getting that Dell pocket and the PMX60 in the coming week. :)

Darth Groovy
04-08-2005, 01:06 AM
Mine is the best!

ET Warrior
04-08-2005, 01:10 AM
I laugh at this thread, since you posed the question for OUR opinion on an MP3 player....

and you picked an MP3 player that NOBODY here recommended, in addition to the headphones that nobody recommended :p

Tokarev
04-08-2005, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
addition to the headphones that nobody recommended :p

Obviously I wasn't too worried about headphones now am I... I don't need anything above $30 and I need them light as possible and not the annoying ear buds. Those things annoy me more. :eek:

ET Warrior
04-08-2005, 01:16 AM
But the MP3 player, you heeded NO advice :p

Samuel Dravis
04-08-2005, 01:26 AM
Since it's about mp3 players, anyone have any experience with the Archos Gmini 400 (http://www.shopharmony.com/product.asp?file=PRICEGRABBER&i=ARCGMINI400) or the iRiver H320 (http://www2.buydig.com/shop/product.aspx?ref=pricegrabber&sku=IRH320)? My worthless player's headphone jack came loose inside it, but fortunately I was able to return it and get my money back even though the warranty had expired (I love Wal-Mart).

toms
04-08-2005, 09:17 AM
The gmini 400 looks pretty cool. I only played with it for a short while in a shop, but i liked it.

Not sure the games are worth much, but i guess they could pass a bit of time if you are bored. Felt solid. Screen was nice and video clips looked pretty good. (though obviously not up to PSP standards).

Archos User interfaces are, erm, unique.
They allow you to make playlists, update the library and delete/rename files on the go.... which can be very handy. But their "double browser" is a little unintuitive (though powerful once you learn it) and scrolling through long lists without a wheel or touchpad can be slow.

I have a gmini XS200 which a similar mp3 player to the gmini 400 but without the colour screen, video and game capabilites. I like it.

Got good reviews when released.

If they had only had a 30gb or 40gb gmini 400 i'd have got one of those, but I didn't think 20gb was big enough for music, games AND video. So in the end i decided to concentrate on portability and music and go for the XS200.

MTV2
04-08-2005, 11:12 AM
never`get an iPod
Prices:
iPod=$249+cnd
New battery after 2 years=$100cnd(u get a refurbished iPod(not yours))
accesories=$20+
--------------------------------------------
$369+ plus 100$ every 2 years

any of the creative, iRivers, or rio's are great

El Sitherino
04-08-2005, 12:36 PM
Have fun with your Dell, better save up to buy a new MP3 player after it screws up within a week.

Tokarev
04-08-2005, 03:12 PM
I was looking for solid opinions. Not this > that.

TiE23
04-09-2005, 01:03 AM
Why? Why did it have to be a Dell?

It got a 7.3 on CNET
http://reviews.cnet.com/Dell_Pocket_DJ_5GB/4505-6490_7-31149192.html

When the Zen Micro got a 8.3!
http://reviews.cnet.com/Creative_Zen_Micro_5GB_black/4505-6490_7-31151919.html
Why?
(EDIT: Look at the video for the Zen, the guy said 8.7, I dont know if that was a mistake by him or they have't changed their site yet.)

TiE

Tyrion
04-09-2005, 02:46 AM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
Get HD497's if you get Sennheiser.

For a mp3 player those would require too much energy to power correctly, it wouldn't be worth it. Plus they're too large for outdoor use.

But the PMX 60 seems to be fine for what you want Tokarev.

ET Warrior
04-09-2005, 01:52 PM
Originally posted by Tyrion
Plus they're too large for outdoor use.

Even though they're listed under Seinheiser's "Streetwear" lineup? :p


I think what you mean to say is, you think they'd look dorky wearing them in public because you're a slave to fashion trends :D

Tyrion
04-09-2005, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
I think what you mean to say is, you think they'd look dorky wearing them in public because you're a slave to fashion trends :D

Oh boy, if only you could see how I really dressed. :p

No, I don't wear a tutu...

Edit- Oh yeah, the 457 would be better afterall. I thought it would be the same size as the HD 555. Stupid me.

El Sitherino
04-09-2005, 06:45 PM
Originally posted by Tyrion
For a mp3 player those would require too much energy to power correctly, it wouldn't be worth it. Plus they're too large for outdoor use. That's so bull, and I know it. :p

I love my senn's with my zen. (lol at vocal pun)