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Mandalorian54
04-10-2005, 05:39 AM
I listen mostly, though not only, to Punk music. I like alot more of the heavier stuff, right now I'm listening to alot of Thrice, Avenged Sevenfold, Atreyu, and stuff like that. I do still like some softer stuff like Blink 182, though I haven't listened to them in ages and I can't stand their newest album.

I also really like the band Kitty, who I've seen been classified Death Metal. I'll never get into the whole chicks screaming sounding like men thing though, but I love those songs that have singing. Their singer is very talented, and when the scream in the back ground while singing it's just perfect.

So if you like Punk, what are some of the bands you listen to the most, what do you think of the bands I listen to, and what else is on your mind related to Punk?

IG-64
04-10-2005, 07:15 AM
Is Green Day considered "Punk" at all?

Or is it just "pop"?

Mandalorian54
04-10-2005, 07:22 AM
Yes greenday is loosly considered Punk, by me at least. And considering the fact that if you buy it at HMV it's in the Punk section.

Greenday is too mainstreem for me. I never even really liked their old stuff. It's also just too soft for me. I do like some of their songs though. Dookie was a pretty good album. I wish I could kill Boulavard of Broken Dreams, I'm so sick of hearing it on the radio.

Does that answer your question?

But hey, I'm not a Punk expert okay, I didn't invent Punk. You'll get plenty of different answers depending on who you ask. Alot of people don't consider Blink182 Punk but I do, loosly.

Greenday definetly is not Pop though, far from it. Greenday is more like Mainstreem Rock, with a hint of Punk.

jon_hill987
04-10-2005, 07:42 AM
Originally posted by IG-64
Is Green Day considered "Punk" at all?

Or is it just "pop"?

I generaly consider anything that gets in the charts pop. greenday is some of the least poppy pop though in my opinion (if that makes any sense) anyway, Though what I listen to isn't mainstream I'm not into punk so i'll get the hell out of your thread!

See ya!

Astrotoy7
04-10-2005, 09:35 AM
DEAD KENNEDYS > modern punk :p

buts thats just me :p

oh, the pistols too, but to a much lesser extent

yes, I am an old man :(

btw, I hope there isnt a girlie death metal band called Kitty. Death Metal is about evil demons and satan's legions vanquishing its foes :p

It can only be played by 6.5 feet tall muscular dudes with long hair and tatts, who are usually from florida, or more recently, Louisiana :p

METAL TILL YOU DIE !!!!! :rock:

mtfbwya

Mandalorian54
04-10-2005, 09:55 AM
If by Girlie you mean non stop screaming in a way that you wouldn't know they wern't men unless you knew better and heavy enough power chords to wilt a greenhouse in a matter of hours...well I guess girlie isn't what it used to be.

I think if there were women here we'd have a femenist riot about how women can be just as much death metal as men, but I hope that doesn't happen.

Dead Kennedies and the Sex Pistols...I can't stand that type of old fashion retro Punk. It's just the sound that bugs me. I also don't listen to much Metal, Kittie's about it.

Pie™
04-10-2005, 09:57 AM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
DEAD KENNEDYS > modern punk :p

buts thats just me :p

oh, the pistols too, but to a much lesser extent

yes, I am an old man :(

btw, I hope there isnt a girlie death metal band called Kitty. Death Metal is about evil demons and satan's legions vanquishing its foes :p

It can only be played by 6.5 feet tall muscular dudes with long hair and tatts, who are usually from florida, or more recently, Louisiana :p

METAL TILL YOU DIE !!!!! :rock:

mtfbwya ...Or from britain or Canada... <.<

The only punk bands I listen to are The Misfits, The Damned, and The Clash.

[edit] By the way, Arch Enemy is a decent Death Metal band with a female singer (she wasn't on their older stuff though) :)

CapNColostomy
04-10-2005, 03:10 PM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
DEAD KENNEDYS > modern punk :p

buts thats just me :p

oh, the pistols too, but to a much lesser extent

yes, I am an old man :(



Agreed. And yes. I'm an old man as well.

Originally posted by Astrotoy7
Death Metal is about evil demons and satan's legions vanquishing its foes :p

It can only be played by 6.5 feet tall muscular dudes with long hair and tatts, who are usually from florida, or more recently, Louisiana :p

METAL TILL YOU DIE !!!!! :rock:

mtfbwya

Louisiana and the metal bands that come frome there > All.

ET Warrior
04-10-2005, 03:23 PM
I used to listen to punk music, well, punk and ska. I never got too into the hardcore punk, but i'd listen to it because my old roommate was, and I didn't mind it. But now I've found I much prefer bands that are more musically inclined. Punk is okay, but I like ska more than punk, and I like a lot of other stuff more than ska.

Cake, The Beta Band, and Radiohead are three of my favorite bands.


Back in the day though, I enjoyed The Virus, GC5, and a few others.

KBell
04-10-2005, 03:23 PM
Avenged Sevenfold is definetly not punk, more along the lines of metal/heavymetal

El Sitherino
04-10-2005, 03:54 PM
Originally posted by KBell
Avenged Sevenfold is definetly not punk, more along the lines of metal/heavymetal Agreed.

Punk I listen to.

Black Flag
Misfits
Ramones
The Clash
Queers
Violent Femmes
Bad Religion
The Unseen
Dead Kennedy's
Sex Pistols on rare occasion
Wendy O Williams and the Plasmatics
Balzac
... a lot more that will take forever to type out.

Needless to same I'm a punk rocker.


PS: Greenday is pop-punk.

LightNinja
04-10-2005, 03:58 PM
Astro im sorry to say this but... Real Madrid 4 - Barça 2 MWAHAHAHA :D:D:D:D(sorry had to do this :(:p)

GothiX
04-10-2005, 04:05 PM
Kittie is nu-metal. And if you like grunts combined with singing, check out Demonhunter.

Jared
04-10-2005, 07:41 PM
the only punk i really listen to is Black Flag, The Misfits, and the Ramones..and many no name bands like The Infested that dont play on the radio.

I listen to taking back sunday, Greenday, Yellowcard, and Blink 182... all of the stuff inspired by punk but ends up as Rock and Pop Punk ...for the most part.

All the older music by these bands is the greatest.

Mandalorian54
04-10-2005, 11:10 PM
Pie, I'll give Arch Enemy a listen and let you know what I think.


Most people seems to have their own way of classifying music, putting different bands in different catagories. It's so confusing. I just go by whatever catagory I find them in a music store. If they're in the punk section I'll call them Punk. I'm not going to make up my own system.

I guess it just depends on what people see in music. They classify the elemnts they see together. So you see the Metal style in Avenged Sevenfold and classify it as Punk.

Well, I just don't do that. I classify it the way I find it in the music store. I think it's the easiest way to avoid confusion and for there to be a structured classification system.

I also really like Yellowcard.

TheOutrider
04-10-2005, 11:44 PM
Greenday = Power Pop = Punk Pop

Punk I listen to:

Dead Kennedys
Descendants
Bad Religion sometimes
Misfits sometimes
Tsunami Bomb

@Mandalorian54: I think its punk depending on the beat and stuff like that.

I mean punk sounds punk, pop sounds pop, crap I mean rap sounds like crap, etc.

Astrotoy7
04-11-2005, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by LightNinja
Astro im sorry to say this but... Real Madrid 4 - Barça 2 MWAHAHAHA :D:D:D:D(sorry had to do this :(:p)

bah ! too little too late mr Ninja... now, go back to staring at your posh and becks posters

ps- you could do this with PMs next time :(

* * *

wow, several posts in and no "My Music > Your Music" flame wars have started..

BOR - ING :(

:p

mtfbwya

Pie™
04-11-2005, 08:42 AM
Originally posted by Mandalorian54
Most people seems to have their own way of classifying music, putting different bands in different catagories. It's so confusing. I just go by whatever catagory I find them in a music store. If they're in the punk section I'll call them Punk. I'm not going to make up my own system. By doing that I'd have to classify Darkthrone in the same genre as Kiss. That's just a no-no. :(

toms
04-11-2005, 11:06 AM
I like some classic punk (sex pistols, clash, ramones) and I've recently rediscovered green day and some (very) early offspring.

A number of the bands that are big in the uk at the moment could be considered "punk" influenced (white stripes, kaiser chiefs, etc..) bt they aren't pure punk.

The US seems to be more into skate punk, (fast guitars and jumping up and down) whereas actual "real" classic punk was often quite slow and medodic.

I've never understood thrash metal and the sort of bands where they just scream into the microphone and hit all their instruments as fast as possible though... :confused:

Pie™
04-11-2005, 11:29 AM
http://www.dropkickthefaint.com/

<.< (blood warning)

tags
04-11-2005, 04:40 PM
i said it before and i'll say it again: "AC/DC RULES!!"

Vikinor
04-11-2005, 05:09 PM
They aren't really punk.

TheOutrider
04-11-2005, 11:55 PM
Punk owns all other music, real punk not crap pop punk....


Couldn't help it.

ET Warrior
04-12-2005, 12:29 AM
Yes, your choice in music is vastly superior to all others. AND only what you listen to is real punk, that other crap can go die, rotten sellout scumbags.


Oh yeah, and nobody cares.

El Sitherino
04-12-2005, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by TheOutrider
Punk owns all other music, real punk not crap pop punk....


Couldn't help it.

Astrotoy7
04-12-2005, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
Yes, your choice in music is vastly superior to all others. AND only what you listen to is real punk, that other crap can go die, rotten sellout scumbags.


Oh yeah, and nobody cares.

I dont know the code for the "Im with stupid" smilie, so Im just sayin it :p

Outrider, real punk only ever existed before you were even a lusty thought in your daddy's mind... where were you in the late 70s ???

mtfbwya

toms
04-12-2005, 06:59 AM
Real punk only existed for about 12 months in the UK. The stuff that came out in the US was never real punk.

Though my definition of "real" may vary from others... ;) :p

Astrotoy7
04-12-2005, 07:33 AM
Originally posted by toms
Real punk only existed for about 12 months in the UK. The stuff that came out in the US was never real punk.

Though my definition of "real" may vary from others... ;) :p

you gotta rememeber tho Toms, there were a few americans involved in the development of the pistols look and sound :)

mtfbwya

BongoBob
04-12-2005, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by TheOutrider
Punk owns all other music, real punk not crap pop punk....


Couldn't help it.

Does that include Green Day? Cause if so you're a hypocrite for telling me you liked them.

Anyhow, I like Green Day and Avenged Sevenfold. I also like Sum 41, and I can't think of any others at the moment.

toms
04-12-2005, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
you gotta rememeber tho Toms, there were a few americans involved in the development of the pistols look and sound :)

mtfbwya

LIES! LIES I TELL YOU!!

my underlying point is that everyone has a different definition of what "real" music is... usually closely related to their own likes and dislikes.

Hermie
04-12-2005, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Mandalorian54
Most people seems to have their own way of classifying music, putting different bands in different catagories. It's so confusing. I just go by whatever catagory I find them in a music store. If they're in the punk section I'll call them Punk. I'm not going to make up my own system.
It seems every band has its own genre nowadays...

Darth Groovy
04-12-2005, 12:32 PM
You know, I have pairs of underwear that are older than this debate.

Let me clear this up.

EVERYTHING is punki now days. New punk sucks, because it's a watered down version of what us old timers used to listen too. There is nothing exciting about it anymore. I used to love punk, but I got tired of it.

The punk I grew up with:

Joy Division
Misfits
Naked Raygun
Black Flag
Dead Kennedys
The Clash
Minor Threat

Pie™
04-12-2005, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
Joy Division *post-punk.

*hides*

El Sitherino
04-12-2005, 01:21 PM
Actually Joy Division inspired post-punk.

Pie™
04-12-2005, 01:32 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
Actually Joy Division inspired post-punk. They were among the first post punk bands. They later inspired gothic rock.

Other punk bands I forgot to mention: Siouxsie And The Banshees (their ealry stuff) and The Birthday Party.

El Sitherino
04-12-2005, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by Pie™
They were among the first post punk bands. They later inspired gothic rock.
They inspired post punk, they were the first step to it, but they weren't it.

Pie™
04-12-2005, 01:37 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
They inspired post punk, they were the first step to it, but they weren't it. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v42/MMMPIE/linkinpark2.jpg

ckcsaber
04-12-2005, 02:10 PM
Technically Joy-Division inspired post-punk, but is in all regards considered modern punk. Their music may sound as if it is a throwback to original punk AKA old school punk, but it really is their own unique "punkish" sound. Oh, and I won't even delve into the complexities of deriving chart punk pop and tru punk.

All in all, I own you all as do my musical tastes. Now for a semi-funny picture that is completely unrelated to the topic that will make me look like a bigger ass.


http://www.boomspeed.com/ckcsaber/image.jpg

ph33r

Darth Groovy
04-13-2005, 04:41 AM
Listen to Joy Division when they were Warsaw. Punk as freaking John Lydon himself.

God music sucks anymore.

You should all just listen to some David Bowie, not only will you get a fair sample of different music styles, then you wil all feel better, instead of getting into these stupid heated debates about music and the endless array of sub-genres.

Bowie = +1 Pseudo-Quasi Punk = 0

http://www.velvetgoldmine.it/images/quiz_right.jpg

Pie™
04-13-2005, 10:14 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
You should all just listen to some David Bowie Who says we don't? ;)

Mandalorian54
04-14-2005, 04:43 PM
While I appreciate the old punk for creating punk, I can't stand much of it, too old fashioned for me. My dad listens to Blondie alot and I have alot of respect for them, Blondie is such a diverse band and really explored music.

I really like where Punk is today, I just love it. I play the guitar and might start a band with some friends. I go to alot of concerts too, last one I went to was Rise Against.

TheOutrider
04-14-2005, 10:33 PM
Am I the only one who knew I was being sarcastic :(.

I really like punk bands, punk pop bands, and other stuff too, I was merely cracking a smartass comment.

And yeah im a huge fan o' green day.

Im sorry for all the confusion :).