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El Sitherino
04-12-2005, 03:40 PM
Click (http://news.com.com/Apple+pins+April+29+date+on+Tigers+tail/2100-1016_3-5665835.html?tag=nl)

April 29th, can't wait.
I'm eager to see what all is fixed up in Tiger and which rumours ring true.

Note: Keep the fanboy crap out of here.

ET Warrior
04-12-2005, 03:51 PM
I think Apple puts an awful lot of emphasis on their Spotlight and Dashboard, when they are both things that I'm not sure I would ever need. Maybe the casual Apple user has trouble remembering where they keep files and whatnot...but I know I organize mine so they're always where they should be.


What exactly is supposed to be new in Tiger as opposed to their previos OS's?


And I will straight up delete any posts bashing apple or touting Windows as a vastly superior system. Like Sith said, no fanboyisms

El Sitherino
04-12-2005, 03:58 PM
Basically the kernel is supposed to be much tighter in this version. Therefore more secure. And some other things here and there, but not a lot has really been released outside of them saying the kernel will be much tighter.

I also don't want any mac superiority crap either.

txa1265
04-12-2005, 04:15 PM
Mac is teh sux0r :p

I have been extremely happy with the progress of the Mac OS in the X era ... they have continually innovated new features without bogging down the entire machine.

Can't wait ...

Mike

legameboy
04-12-2005, 05:03 PM
Ah... good ol' Tiger. A bundle of feature-full goodness. I can't wait until it's released.

ET, features such as Spotlight and Dashboard are meant help people work and access information faster. Who can forget the other new features in Tiger such as the Automator.

To all of you Mac users out there, check out Quicksilver (http://quicksilver.blacktree.com/).

edlib
04-12-2005, 05:35 PM
We finally switched over to OS 10.3.8 (Panther? Jaguar? I know it's one of them big kitties...) at work, after being on OS 9 forever.

Its' nice, but now I can't find anything, and almost none of the quick-key commands work the same.

I still haven't gotten a handle on this one yet... I hope they don't upgrade us to the new OS too soon.

ET Warrior
04-12-2005, 06:20 PM
Originally posted by legameboy
ET, features such as Spotlight and Dashboard are meant help people work and access information faster.

I am aware what they are MEANT for, what I want to know is who uses the search function of an OS? I've never used Windows search, because when I put something on my computer, it goes in a logical place. Everything is organized.

El Sitherino
04-12-2005, 06:42 PM
Sadly, not everyone is capable of thinking like that, ET.

ET Warrior
04-12-2005, 06:47 PM
If you can't organize the things you put on your computer, you shouldn't be allowed to have one :xp:

El Sitherino
04-12-2005, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
If you can't organize the things you put on your computer, you shouldn't be allowed to have one :xp: I agree. So anyway, anyone here have any info on Tiger? *looks at legameboy* You're the resident mactard, any info?

legameboy
04-12-2005, 07:11 PM
Tiger... well... it's awesome... and... uh... it comes out in seventeen days... and... uh... click (http://www.apple.com/macosx/)?

El Sitherino
04-12-2005, 07:17 PM
Sith wants more details though. :(

Aside from the new tools, it's the same page as the last versions of OSX. :p

Mex
04-12-2005, 08:09 PM
That almost makes me want to get a Mac. I just wish I had the money.

txa1265
04-12-2005, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
If you can't organize the things you put on your computer, you shouldn't be allowed to have one :xp:
That is nice in theory, but I have searched both Mac & PC this week ...

- To try to uncover how save games are stored on LEGO Star Wars so I can transfer between computers.
- To clean up old prefs files on a crappy demo I tried a while back on the Mac.

The Mac finder search is just great.

As for file organization, even though 'My Docs' has >7500 files, I can still find anything that I haven't archived in lesss than a couple of minutes ... it is all about taking that 5 seconds to name and store with common sense.

Mike

legameboy
04-12-2005, 09:05 PM
Mike... not to be edgy or impatient... but have you tried out Quicksilver, yet?

wassup
04-12-2005, 10:54 PM
"Tiger's groundbreaking new features, like Spotlight and Dashboard, will change the way people use their computers, and drive our competitors nuts trying to copy them," Jobs said in a statement.

Never has there been more truth in a statement. :p

toms
04-13-2005, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
I am aware what they are MEANT for, what I want to know is who uses the search function of an OS? I've never used Windows search, because when I put something on my computer, it goes in a logical place. Everything is organized.

i use it all the time. :(
With about 20,000 documents all over the place it is sometimes a lot easier to just search for a name than try and remember where you put it, or if you even saved or deleted it.
Then again, I can't get the hang of the My Documents thing. Everything ends up getting saved on my desktop.
Its worse with XP and several users, as different programmes save stuff in different places. (some of it in the user's "My Docs", some in the "all users My docs", some in "application data" folders.... grrr...

"Tiger's groundbreaking new features, like Spotlight and Dashboard, will change the way people use their computers, and drive our competitors nuts trying to copy them," Jobs said in a statement.

I've already seen at least one open source Dashboard plugin out there which is supposed to be much better than the existing Mac one... (zooms and more customisability or something, didn't try it). So it doesn't seem to be driving too many people nuts :D

Th only mac in out office is still stuck on os 9.something. Crashes all the time. Hate it. :mad:
*wishes for X*

txa1265
04-13-2005, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by legameboy
Mike... not to be edgy or impatient... but have you tried out Quicksilver, yet? No - I've never been big into those types of things ... never used QuickKeys or any other thing ... I *did* use 'Greg's Browser' after spending lots of time with the NeXT OS and loving that interface ... which is now the FinderX ;)

Ultimately, I still compute like I did using command line Unix in the early 80's ...

Mike

Anthony
04-13-2005, 07:32 AM
I don't like the new apple button in the top left corner. Buh.

But still

Astrotoy7
04-13-2005, 10:17 AM
im not trying to bash or be a smartass, but are systems running this new OS going to have more devs making games for it ?? Apples are great for many many things, but just dont many games made for it, and gaming is a good 60% of what I use my compy for :)

mtfbwya

toms
04-13-2005, 11:07 AM
Doubt it.

Apple have seen a boost in their computer sales based on the ipod and the mac-mini, but they still mainly market their pcs as dtp/web browsing/multimedia systems and not as games machines.

You'd have to pay a fortune for a mac mini that was good enough to play games on, and even then upgrading it might be a problem.

Macs are great for what they do (at least they are since i discovered you can add a two button mouse) but they don't really do games.

edlib
04-13-2005, 11:28 AM
Somewhat ironic observation:

It's funny, but when Macs were introduced they weren't taken seriously as work machines. IBM-clones were the serious business tools, and the Macs were toys and playthings.

Now I can't say that I really know anyone who bought a Mac just to play with it... they all tend to be either musicians who need sequencing and/ or multitrack recording, or graphic artists, web-designers, and/ or video editors. Macs are generally bought with a very specific career-related purpose in mind these days, it seems to me.

But most of those folks own a PC as well... y'know,.. to play games on.

I don't think Apple is all that concerned with breaking into the games market big-time. They have staked out a solid niche in the marketplace, and they kinda seem comfortable there.

Astrotoy7
04-13-2005, 12:27 PM
I grew up using old apples at primary school :p But those flouro colored monstrosities that were around when I was in uni were just plain ugly. ugh

yeah, most people I know who have Macs have them for work...most of them being graphic designers...

I'll stick to my toshiba satellite notebook, with the lease upgrading to Qozmio next year, and bide my time for ps3... Im sure that will cover all my pc/console gaming needs. :p

mtfbwya

txa1265
04-13-2005, 01:12 PM
What I love about my Powerbook is:
- Ability to run old NeXT stuff (recompiled, natch)
- Ability to run Unix stuff
- Everything I care about (MS Office, statistics software, physics software, etc) runs on it.
- Games run as well on a 1.33GHz Mac as on my 3.2 GHz Dell Inspiron laptop.

*However*, this comes from my 'normal' work Dell Latitude, as there are many work things I need to use, and our company is PC based.

Oh well ... more computers for me ...

Mike

El Sitherino
04-13-2005, 01:51 PM
There still are quite a lot of games made for the Mac, a lot of exclusives that are more fun than these mainstream released titles.

But as said, Mac's generally aren't created to be game machines, but career oriented machines.

legameboy
04-13-2005, 04:03 PM
True "dat," Sithy. I use my Mac mainly to video-edit, since I've started doing work for local businesses and such. I also do just about everythingon my Mac except game, that's my old PC's job.

Just recently I visited the Apple Store in the Mall of America (t's only 20 minutes away from where I live)... I almost cried... it was so beautiful...

El Sitherino
04-13-2005, 04:11 PM
Yeah, there's an apple store around me, in Plano I think. Not very close but not incredibly far. Amazing place.