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Feanaro
04-21-2005, 12:33 AM
So, i just got done watching the news and they had a story on the yearly gathering of students smoking pot at 4:20 on april 20. They were all out smoking pot right out in the open. And police were taking pictures for evidence and stuff, while the school campus turned on their sprinklers to stop the students(which only worked for a few minutes). The news was filming them and many of the students made fools of themselves(which is hard to believe i know) and made me shiver to think this is the future of America, a bunch of pot smoking retards. I have no faith in the future of this nation and i really wish that people like that would move to canada. Does anyone else feel the same as me?

ET Warrior
04-21-2005, 12:39 AM
Meh, they're kids, and kids will be kids.

I know at farrand field on 4:20 there's a veritable haze overhead (not this year, it rained all day) The CUPD shows up, but they don't do anything but make sure the kids don't get out of control.

People always have an always will be stupid, I don't find anything surprising about this.

Of course, I'd rather be around people who have been smoking pot than people who have been drinking alcohol, so I'd rather it be a group of stoners than alcoholics.

BongoBob
04-21-2005, 12:48 AM
hehe, I was out with them. Not smokin, but just hanin out with friends. Stoners are fun. And I got free food out of it. Just go with some stoners and start talking about pizza or grahm crackers. Yum ^_^

Surprisinly, only one of my teachers knew about today.

And BTW, for those who don't know, 420 is police code for posession ;)

wassup
04-21-2005, 01:28 AM
Come on, you can't possibly believe this is majority of the future of America. :rolleyes:

Lady Jedi
04-21-2005, 01:45 AM
Hmm, I've never heard of that one. Have you ever heard of the South Dakota 21st birthday thing? Well they take the person of honor or whatever to a bar, and the goal is for them to drink 21 shots of whiskey in one hour. Now, it's not just 21 shots of whiskey, it's 21 shots with beer chasers. The alchohol content is waaay too much for the body to deal with, and several people have died. Crazy, huh?

Anyway, those potheads will grow out of it...or they'll pass on the tradition. :D :p

Darth Groovy
04-21-2005, 03:33 AM
I hate all drugs, and everything associated with them. I've seen alot of bad things happen to people that were very close to me, so I tend to take it more personal than others.

Sabretooth
04-21-2005, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Feanaro
i really wish that people like that would move to canada. Does anyone else feel the same as me?

Just 'coz Canada's more sane as compared to the US? I think not. America is going down the drain and it has itself to blame.

tags
04-21-2005, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by Feanaro
So, i just got done watching the news and they had a story on the yearly gathering of students smoking pot at 4:20 on april 20.

coincidence?

I......Think......NOT!! :mex1:

BongoBob
04-21-2005, 08:40 AM
Yeah, whoever thought this stuff up was one smart stoner...or just really friggin high.

And sorry about any past bad experiences grooves :(

ET Warrior
04-21-2005, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by tags
coincidence?

I......Think......NOT!! :mex1:


......of course it's not a coincidence...

It happens every april 20th, and while it's typically an all - day thing I know a few people who put importance on the times 4:20 (am and pm) on that day.

RebelScum!
04-21-2005, 12:11 PM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
I hate all drugs, and everything associated with them. I've seen alot of bad things happen to people that were very close to me, so I tend to take it more personal than others.

Same here. I know a couple teens in my neighborhood who pass the needles around at like two in the morning. :( Its really jacked up, cause I also knew one of them. He was a really good friend way back when. (like when we were 8 and 7) The he started hanging out with the wrong people. And started smoking at age 9. Now the guys a complete loser, not even the people he hangs around like him. His dad cusses the crap out of him when he gets home. No one in the freaking world likes this dude, me least of all. Just feel sorry for him.

Feanaro
04-21-2005, 12:55 PM
Just 'coz Canada's more sane as compared to the US? I think not. America is going down the drain and it has itself to blame.
Yeah, i guess i have a hard time making sure i come across sarcastic. I don't really think all the stoners should go to Canada......or do I?
I hate all drugs, and everything associated with them. I've seen alot of bad things happen to people that were very close to me, so I tend to take it more personal than others.
Ditto. I feel that alchohol one of the worse drugs out there. Just cause it is highly addictive, and is excepted socially to get hammered and be a fool. I think weve banned pot mostly because it could get to the point that alchohol has gotten to. by making it illegal we can't abuse it as easily as alchohol.
Come on, you can't possibly believe this is majority of the future of America.
I never meant anything to sound like that, it's just i don't want this country to be run by people who do illegal drugs. Is that wrong? I don't even want those alchohol abusing youth either. I don't have a problem with alchohol used responsibly(if you can have such a thing), but when it's abused is when i have the problem.

lukeiamyourdad
04-21-2005, 01:05 PM
Alcohol is not truly "addictive".
I will also note that the VAST majority of alcohol consumers are not alcoholics and do not abuse of it.

Everything can be used responsibly.

Hell, even Bush has taken drugs in his youth and people chose to ignore it.

El Sitherino
04-21-2005, 02:12 PM
You realize that film is doctored to show marijuana as an evil corrupting substance, right?


And screw you.

TK-8252
04-21-2005, 02:47 PM
Oh yeah, just because someone smokes pot it makes them some hopeless retard? :roleyess:

Please. Stop being stereotypical. My friends who smoke are great guys, and some are smarter than I am. Let's focus on real problems in America's future, not stoned kids, k?

Samuel Dravis
04-21-2005, 02:58 PM
Here's some interesting info (http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/420.htm) on it...

El Sitherino
04-21-2005, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Samuel Dravis
Here's some interesting info (http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/420.htm) on it... <3 I was looking for that.

Vikinor
04-21-2005, 05:44 PM
There's nothing really wrong doing it not that I was smoking or anything but I saw a message on the bottom of a desk that said 4:20 and beside it said "smoke me !" I was a bit confused by it. And It is only illegal if you get caught.

El Sitherino
04-21-2005, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by VikingLarz
And It is only illegal if you get caught. See Feanaro, that's retarded.

Acrylic
04-21-2005, 07:55 PM
I don't know why people think that if someone smokes pot, they're stupid and whatnot. I'll admit, I've done it a couple times, (like, a couple times through the months of december and january) My life isn't different, my grades haven't suffered, and it was just to see how it is.

Sure, other drugs are pretty bad, but pot isn't as bad as those other ones.

Not saying it's good for you though.

Vikinor
04-21-2005, 08:01 PM
Yea. Maybe it gives someone something to do when they are depressed too. In Sweden a lot of people get depressed during the Winter months.

Feanaro
04-21-2005, 08:08 PM
You realize that film is doctored to show marijuana as an evil corrupting substance, right?
Right............theres a secret underground of anti-marijuana activists who are controling film round the world. I think they call themselves the Pentavren.
Sure, other drugs are pretty bad, but pot isn't as bad as those other ones.
So, it makes it okay to do less bad drugs? Does that mean if i steal two dollars instead of 20, that means we should let it slide?

Please. Stop being stereotypical. My friends who smoke are great guys, and some are smarter than I am. Let's focus on real problems in America's future, not stoned kids, k?
I didn't say smoking pot makes you stupid. I say you're stupid because you smoke pot! And i'd say people who do drugs is a real problem in america's future.

tags
04-21-2005, 08:19 PM
Originally posted by VikingLarz
There's nothing really wrong doing it not that I was smoking or anything
people say there isn't and also try to argue that "It's ALL natural." or that "Why else is it here the?!". Mushrooms are natural too but "we" don't eat those now do we?!

TK-8252
04-21-2005, 08:20 PM
Originally posted by Feanaro
So, it makes it okay to do less bad drugs? Does that mean if i steal two dollars instead of 20, that means we should let it slide?

Apparently so, because smoking cigs and drinking booze has been allowed to "slide."

Originally posted by Feanaro
I say you're stupid because you smoke pot!

How non-stereotypical. :roleyess:

Originally posted by Feanaro
And i'd say people who do drugs is a real problem in america's future.

...Right. Because we know that one day some harmless stoners are going to take over America.

Originally posted by tags
people say there isn't and also try to argue that "It's ALL natural." or that "Why else is it here the?!". Mushrooms are natural too but "we" don't eat those now do we?!

Umm... people do eat mushrooms.

tags
04-21-2005, 08:45 PM
ok, if that's not good enough, how about smoking tree-bark? eating it? licking twigs? chewin dirt? smokin dirt? eat snake berries? smoke bird-ocks?.......get the point? ya do one, ya mind-as-well do'em all. hey! "It's ALL natural!"

lukeiamyourdad
04-21-2005, 08:47 PM
No, because doing any of those is just stupid since it gives you no "good feeling" or anything.
You'll just be intoxicated.

Acrylic
04-21-2005, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by Feanaro
So, it makes it okay to do less bad drugs? Does that mean if i steal two dollars instead of 20, that means we should let it slide?

Like comparing an apple and orange.

Also, I never said anything was more okay than another, but I said that it's not as harmful towards your health as other drugs (examples: Cocaine, Ecstacy [probably spelled it wrong], shrooms, etc...)

Get my point?

El Sitherino
04-21-2005, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by tags
ok, if that's not good enough, how about smoking tree-bark? eating it? licking twigs? chewin dirt? smokin dirt? eat snake berries? smoke bird-ocks?.......get the point? ya do one, ya mind-as-well do'em all. hey! "It's ALL natural!" Some people do eat twigs and such, but some of those things can cause sickness, thus people don't eat it. I suggest you think before you post, or don't post.

legameboy
04-21-2005, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
I hate all drugs, and everything associated with them. I've seen alot of bad things happen to people that were very close to me, so I tend to take it more personal than others.

I'm in the same boat sailing the same sea. :(

Sabretooth
04-21-2005, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by tags
ok, if that's not good enough, how about smoking tree-bark? eating it? licking twigs? chewin dirt? smokin dirt? eat snake berries? smoke bird-ocks?.......get the point? ya do one, ya mind-as-well do'em all. hey! "It's ALL natural!"

You know, some people across the globe actually do that stuff. For them, anything they see is natural. But still, sorry to say, I just can't get what tags means...?

wassup
04-21-2005, 11:40 PM
No matter what your mothers drilled into your heads when you were young, the reality is that drugs do not make you stupid. Doing stupid things (ie. abusing drugs) makes you stupid.

Please do not judge people by what they do, instead, judge them by their character and who they are as a person.

Seph
04-21-2005, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Sabretooth
You know, some people across the globe actually do that stuff. For them, anything they see is natural. But still, sorry to say, I just can't get what tags means...? i agree 100%, hold on *lights a bong* ohhh i see now, I just don't see the problem it's one bad choice, judge them on their character like wassup said.

Darth Groovy
04-22-2005, 01:46 AM
Originally posted by Acrylic
I don't know why people think that if someone smokes pot, they're stupid and whatnot. I'll admit, I've done it a couple times, (like, a couple times through the months of december and january) My life isn't different, my grades haven't suffered, and it was just to see how it is.

Sure, other drugs are pretty bad, but pot isn't as bad as those other ones.

Not saying it's good for you though.

No it's not good for you. Cholesterol is not good for you. Animal fat is not good for you. Too much sugar...is not good for you.

Pot is illegal.

And why would you smoke something that you also sit on and take a crap in? Not to mention, it smells pretty terrible too.

Where the Hell did this "420" thing come from anyway? I see kids say it, giggle and light up a joint, but where in the HELL did that come from? I guess you have to be high and stupid to get such jokes? :rolleyes:

Rogue15
04-22-2005, 02:20 AM
one of my neighbors deals that ****, or used to. i generally do not hang out with those that have to do that ****. I don't see how someone could be "100% responsible" when they're under the influence of that ****. so **** em.

ET Warrior
04-22-2005, 02:35 AM
One of the links explained it groovs, basically it's just the time a group of kids used to smoke pot, and it eventually spread.

It's not really a joke so much as it is an inside thing among people who know it.


I think if people want to smoke marijuana they should smoke marijuana. They aren't hurting anybody else.

Darth Groovy
04-22-2005, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by ET Warrior
One of the links explained it groovs, basically it's just the time a group of kids used to smoke pot, and it eventually spread.

It's not really a joke so much as it is an inside thing among people who know it.


I think if people want to smoke marijuana they should smoke marijuana. They aren't hurting anybody else.

No, just breaking the law...:rolleyes:

Pie™
04-22-2005, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
I hate all drugs, and everything associated with them. I've seen alot of bad things happen to people that were very close to me, so I tend to take it more personal than others. Meh, I've had pepole close to me die of drugs, doesn't mean I hate pot. Heroin, on the other hand.

It's your life, if you want to light a joint I don't mind it any more than if you light a cigarette.

ET Warrior
04-22-2005, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
No, just breaking the law...:rolleyes:

Because we all know that the government ALWAYS makes the best policy decisions and the laws are ALWAYS right.

Feanaro
04-22-2005, 12:32 PM
I guess since it's alright to smoke marijuana, even though it's illegal, we should start breaking other laws that we think we can get away with. Perhaps we'll be having a debate about ectasy(Sp?) soon? If we start to think one drug isn't that bad for us, whats to say we won't move on to other drugs? Is marijuana illegal, yes. I say to myself "I don't do it all the time" or " I use it responsibly" or even "I'm not hurting anyone by lighting up." Does that it make it right to smoke pot? Absolutely not.

Astrotoy7
04-22-2005, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
I hate all drugs, and everything associated with them. I've seen alot of bad things happen to people that were very close to me, so I tend to take it more personal than others.

i'm with grooves on this one. I lost my best friend in high school to an overdose at 15, and have seen what long term marijuana use did to the minds of some wonderful people. **** drugs. :(

mtfbwya

ET Warrior
04-22-2005, 12:55 PM
How many of you hoisting the law upholding the illegality of marijuana have ever driven above the speed limit?

How many of you have ever downloaded a song?

Ever Jaywalked?

I'll bet some of you drank alcohol before you were 21 (not all, I know not you Feeanaro ;))

Alcohol is, in my mind, such an absolutely worse drug than marijuana. Alcohol makes people dumber, more annoying, and more prone to violence. How much household abuse is related to alcohol and how much to pot?


It used to be the law that black people had to ride at the back of the bus and drink at their own water fountain.

Should they have just respected THOSE laws too?

SkinWalker
04-22-2005, 02:18 PM
Marijuana!!! Legalize it or Demonize it?? (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=146714)

I don't believe that underage kids should be able to smoke or ingest Marijuana, but de-criminalizing it would be a drastic and positive change on our society: the court systems could experience relief; the prison systems would be able to focus on actual criminals; the post-incarceration system would be significantly relieved (there are millions of people on probation over marijuana related offenses).

Providing regulations and controls over the substance could also decrease access by kids. Contrary to what most people think, alcohol is difficult to access by kids, and does curb their ability to abuse it. That's not to say that alcohol is totally inaccessible, but if it were easy, 21st birthday celebrations would be meaningless. Other controls that de-criminalization would provide is regulation on manufacturing and purity requirements -as it is, there is no assurance that toxins or dangerous impurities such as fungi are kept out.

The criminal laws regarding marijuana exist more out of pseudoscience, ignorance and politics than a desire to protect the public. Studies demonstrate that alcohol and nicotine are far more damaging than marijuana, particularly when the culture of use is examined with each: marijuana smokers don't typically "chain-smoke" nor do they play "quarters" or "toast" one-another or smoke a 12-pack of joints.

The most sensless thing I've noted with regard to Marijuana laws, however, is the fact that if you have even a minor possession charge, you are automatically ineligble for government subsidized student loans or grants. A rapist or someone guilty of stealing a car or assualting an innocent person can get these loans or grants.

By the way, alcohol is very addictive (http://www.macalester.edu/~psych/whathap/UBNRP/Dopamine/alcoholtobac.html), making it "truly" addictive.

MTV2
04-22-2005, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Feanaro
I have no faith in the future of this nation and i really wish that people like that would move to canada. Does anyone else feel the same as me? what!? move to canada, no way, we already have`enough, its the american gouvernments fault, theyre not moving towards Kyoto cuz they feel like they will do what they want.

i cant believe pot smokers keep trying to legalize pot, it wont happen

TK-8252
04-22-2005, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by MTV2
i cant believe pot smokers keep trying to legalize pot, it wont happen

Actually, you never know. But then again... the country does seem to be progressing backwards so... you're probably right.

Acrylic
04-22-2005, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Darth Groovy
And why would you smoke something that you also sit on and take a crap in? Not to mention, it smells pretty terrible too.

And why drink something that you can take a piss in? (water)
That may be too extreme of a comparison, but your analogy doesn't make any sense to me.

And yeah, it doesn't smell too good. The kind I had though wasn't too bad to tell you the truth. It didn't smell bad. No one could notice the smell.

And anyways, it's all about being responsible with yourself anyways. If you use and abuse, then that's not good either.

El Sitherino
04-22-2005, 07:33 PM
Seems to me people are biased by their experiences with drug abuse. So I'll let my experiences with drug abuse bias me aswell. Sugar should be banned as it can cause diabetes when abused. It could lead on to other substance abuse.


Caffeinated beverages should be banned, or atleast limited to a certain age. As abuse is very common and we must limit that abuse.

Caffeinated soft drinks are the most abused drug in american society, they can lead to behavioural problems, and physical disorders. But nevermind that, let's harrass people for doing something similiar, only because it has an unwarranted stigma attached to it.

tags
04-22-2005, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
I suggest you think before you post, or don't post.
well OFCOUSE I think first, ....I just don't think very hard....:nut: :tng1: :sheepdanc

BongoBob
04-22-2005, 08:06 PM
EDIT:NM, sith deleted his post.

I agree for all the reasons stated above it should be legalized. I have nothing else to say.

lukeiamyourdad
04-22-2005, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by MTV2
i cant believe pot smokers keep trying to legalize pot, it wont happen

It will. The east dominates in terms of number and we'll pass the law that legalizes it unless Harper manages to come to power, which is something I don't want to see. I'd rather have a government that's corrupt and spends tax payers' money on illegal things then having my soul sold to the americans.
No offense to any american, but I'd prefer it if my leaders took the interests of Canada at heart more then the interests of their southern neighbor.

Vikinor
04-22-2005, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by tags
well OFCOUSE I think first, ....I just don't think very hard....:nut: :tng1: :sheepdanc


WTF is that white thing dancing? Maybe you should think harder?


I don't see it being legalized any time soon. Hey I am not a stoner, but I have some friends not my best friends but whatever who do smoke weed. I actually had a chance to get high today, but I passed it up. I don't think marijuana is all that bad though. Smoking cigarettes kills you slowly, marijuana to my knowledge is not very harmful unless you overdose. Overdose on anything and it's harmful.

Acrylic
04-22-2005, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by VikingLarz
marijuana to my knowledge is not very harmful unless you overdose.

You can't overdose on marijuana. ;)

El Sitherino
04-23-2005, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by Acrylic
You can't overdose on marijuana. ;) True, but it is a very easy drug to abuse. Which is where the problem lies. People let it consume them, not because it's addictive, but because they just let it happen. They get so desperate to get as high as they got the first time.

SkinWalker
04-23-2005, 01:36 AM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
Caffeinated beverages should be banned, or atleast limited to a certain age. As abuse is very common and we must limit that abuse.

Alright... going too far now. Don't mess with my joe. :cool:


They can have my coffee when they pry my mug from my cold, dead hands.

Darth Groovy
04-23-2005, 01:41 AM
Originally posted by SkinWalker
Alright... going too far now. Don't mess with my joe. :cool:


They can have my coffee when they pry my mug from my cold, dead hands.

:wstupid: Last time I checked, caffine was still legal. I never had any episodes from having too much caffine, other than maybe a slight lack of sleep.

ET Warrior
04-23-2005, 12:24 PM
There it is with the "it's illegal BAD" response. Have you NEVER done anything illegal in your life? If so, well, good for you I suppose.

My guess is that you've broken laws some way or another before, so the moral high ground becomes pretty slippery.

Especially when the point is that casual marijuana use is no worse than casual alcohol use. Or casual fast food eating.

I'd say if our country REALLY had our health in it's best interest we'd have illegalized alcohol, tobacoo, and fast food already.