PDA

View Full Version : Star Wars Episode Three - Revenge of the Sith: The Video Game *spoiler tags*


El Sitherino
05-06-2005, 05:01 AM
I had my doubts for quite a while, but pre-ordered. I picked it up (as of now) yesterday. Been playing it since I got it and I can say without hesitation, it is the best movie tie-in game I've played in a long, long time. It is also probably one of the funnest Star Wars games.

The lightsaber combat is as fluid as realisticly possible. The interactable enviroment is done amazingly well, but takes a bit practice to get a hang of. The AI is some of the best I've seen in a game. When playing as Anakin, Obi syncs perfectly with my moves. The enemies are as smart as their own characters (which isn't that smart, but AI wise, brilliant).

Some systems that aren't as new might have slow down and chopiness, but that's due to wear of the system and not the game.

So far I've only done the versus mode of mulitplayer, but it's amazing.


All in all, I say to everyone capable of purchasing this game, do so. You will not regret it.

Lightsaberboy
05-06-2005, 06:03 AM
how does it compare with Jedi Outcast and Academy? how is it same and different?

Sivy
05-06-2005, 06:21 AM
i'll be picking my copy up tonight so i can play it over the weekend.

Evil Dark Jedi
05-06-2005, 06:51 AM
I'll be getting mine on the 25th May. Yeah I want to see the movie before I play the game. :p

Astrotoy7
05-06-2005, 07:03 AM
would it be accurate to say its like a sw version of the ROTK type of game ??

mtfbwya

txa1265
05-06-2005, 07:08 AM
LEGO Star Wars (on PC *and* GBA) already spoiled much of EpIII for me, so I had no qualms picking up the Nintendo DS version of the Episode III game.

I picked it up yesterday - this is the first game I've actually bought for the DS (my wife bought me the DS for Christmas, and picked up Mario for me ... which I have no real interest in, but the kids like it)

So far I really like it:
- The graphics are good, not full utilizing the DS, but better than LEGO Star Wars (GBA), and the action is *smooth*, no matter what is on the screen.
- When I fail miserably (notice I didn't say 'if') I don't lose too much - you can just 'try again', which is nice.

I have a feeling it will be a very short game based on what I've played. We'll see.

BTW - I got it at Toys R Us for $30 - whereas at least EBGames and GameSpot had it for $40!!!

Mike

Astrotoy7
05-06-2005, 10:50 AM
mike, the topic is the rots game.... :p

the lego game has spoilers in it !??

*boycotts until may 20* :p

mtfbwya

txa1265
05-06-2005, 11:04 AM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
mike, the topic is the rots game.... :p I know - and that is what I was talking about ... but given I just played both the PC and GBA versions of LEGO SW, I used that as comparison / contrast.

Originally posted by Astrotoy7
the lego game has spoilers in it !?? Well, given there is a big door marked 'III', and that the 'I' door has all of Episode I and the 'II' door has all of Episode II, I'll leave the heavy math to you ;)

Mike

swphreak
05-06-2005, 11:51 AM
I really want to get the game, but I have to wait til I get home to my XBox :(

Does it feel like a fighting game with lightsabers? Like DOA + Action game, because that's what it looks like to me.

jon_hill987
05-06-2005, 01:14 PM
I saw an ad for it last night. I love the catchphrase "play the game before you ee the movie". who would want to? I wouldn't get it till i see the film.

Is it coming out on PC?

Darth Groovy
05-06-2005, 02:17 PM
You know, I didn't get to play it yet, with work and my GF, been a bit busy. Hopefully i'll get a chance to give it a shot this weekend at SOME point.

Nalukai
05-06-2005, 02:19 PM
how does it compare to the swing mechanics of JK series?? or is it more of a soul caliber type movement? i did see a bunch of pre done combos that made me think of soul caliber when i saw them.


meh ill never get to play probably since the only consoles i own are super nintendo and ps1.... i pray for them to release on pc.

TiE23
05-06-2005, 05:56 PM
I'm guessing Prince of Perisa movement and stunts with Soul Calibur 2 action.

TiE

El Sitherino
05-06-2005, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by StarWarsPhreak
I really want to get the game, but I have to wait til I get home to my XBox :(

Does it feel like a fighting game with lightsabers? Like DOA + Action game, because that's what it looks like to me. It feels more like the old school, sidescroll beat em up, but more sophisticated.

Compared to Outcast and Academy, it depends on your style of saber combat. This definitely has some liberties taken, but I think they do well. Me, I think this might be my new favourite saber combat game. But I still love the PC games for their customization. Which is really the only flaw I can think of for this game, but it's on console, so I can't say I'd ever expect customization.


I got through it, and I must say, the ability to do the infamous Old Ben vs. Suited Vader is amazing. And the bonus missions are incredibly fun, especially playing Yoda taking out some clones.


I'd say it's a suped up Jedi Power Battles, with none of the flaws. It's as bugless as I can expect a game to get. Only time I ever had a glitch (once, during the clone arrival, but it didn't hinder gameplay at all) it was systematic because my PS2 is crap but my friends is the new slimmer one, so it's not as worn as mine.


Originally posted by Nalukai
i did see a bunch of pre done combos that made me think of soul caliber when i saw them. The only pre-done combo moves are the devestation attacks. And those you can do at any point and pretty much make your own combo with them as a finisher. I did a 42 hit combo attack and used one of the fury slams as a finisher. Mind you this isn't a button masher if you want to eliminate enemies with optimum efficiency.

But yeah you could say it handles the combat system like a fighter game, but I see it fitting more into the classic sidescrollers.


I think my only complaint is the camera angles. Sometimes I wish I could look at other directions, but that's merely out of curiousity.


PS: Grievous is probably the hardest of duels when taking him with four sabers.

STTCT
05-06-2005, 10:47 PM
I asked for it for Mother's day. My only thoughts are "Is it too easy?" from what I've heard everyone says it is. I hope its challenging....

El Sitherino
05-06-2005, 10:59 PM
Originally posted by STTCT
I asked for it for Mother's day. My only thoughts are "Is it too easy?" from what I've heard everyone says it is. I hope its challenging.... Not incredibly difficult, but definitely not easy.

Mike Windu
05-07-2005, 01:55 AM
The only thing I don't like from what I've seen is that the saber combat may be fun, but it's more of a taken-at-liberty style of combat. It doesn't seem to be all that fluid and graceful, more of a combo-ey based system. And the goofball one liners they characters put out, I pray has been changed...

"Someone must have programmed you to talk too much."

Wha?

But I'll still get it. :D

Astrotoy7
05-07-2005, 01:57 AM
"too easy" is definitely a very subjective thing.... but "too short" everyone understands... what is it like lengthwise... (compared it to the ROTK for example ??)

mtfbwya

El Sitherino
05-07-2005, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by Mike Windu
The only thing I don't like from what I've seen is that the saber combat may be fun, but it's more of a taken-at-liberty style of combat. It doesn't seem to be all that fluid and graceful

Not at all. If you know how to do things properly, it's perfectly fluid, but if you're a button mashing whore, it's going to be choppy.

Originally posted by Mike Windu
more of a combo-ey based system.

Most swordplay games are combo based because that's what you have to do in real life. Not everything is single-hit-kill. :P


Originally posted by Mike Windu
And the goofball one liners the characters put out, I pray has been changed...

"Someone must have programmed you to talk too much."

... You expect too much from a STAR WARS game.

Originally posted by Mike Windu
But I'll still get it. :D

Good.


Originally posted by Astrotoy7
"too easy" is definitely a very subjective thing.... but "too short" everyone understands... what is it like lengthwise... (compared it to the ROTK for example ??)
I've never played the RoTK game, so I'm not sure, but I took it in about *counts* ... 9 hours. But I'm by no means an ordinary person. Some of the people up at gamestop said they took about 14-15 hours and some mom said her son still hasn't beaten it.


It depends on how focused you are on getting experience as well. I am easily finding myself going through a second time and taking longer to gain a lot of experience in first runs instead of replaying to get it up. It all depends on how fast you have yourself go, and the difficulty that you set it at. Even then with the addition of bonus missions, you'll find yourself being kept busy at least until the movie arrives.

The game is actually challenging when set to hard, something most games are not.

The Hidden One
05-07-2005, 10:10 AM
It's pretty good. I rented it and the actions are smooth and the gameplay isn't that diffucult.

Crow_Nest
05-07-2005, 11:25 AM
I finally got my Xbox few days ago after 3 years of asking for it. Also gonna get the game soon probably in 2 days time. Game screenshots look so cool! Strange why IGN gave it a 4.5 while someone else gave it an 8.0 :p

In the meantime, im occupied with Predator: Concrete Jungle. :D

Mike Windu
05-08-2005, 02:24 AM
I don't expect much from a SW game. Just good saber combat, no stupid one liners during combat, generally good fighting.

Like the LotR games :D

I think this one will be a rental.

El Sitherino
05-08-2005, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by Mike Windu
no stupid one liners during combat ... It's Star Wars dude. Seriously.

DarkLord60
05-09-2005, 10:32 PM
Pros:

Decent Graphics (for LucasArts Console game)
Close to movie as a game can get
Have Unlockable things (Including Episode IV suprise)
Multiplay and co-op support
Decent Saber combat
Long Episode III clips
Sound is excellent
Cool alternate ending
LucasArts being brave enough to try a movie game for Episode III after the Episode I game disaster.



Cons:

Cheesy lines between Fights (Carry over to MultiPlayer)
Bad voice acting (except Anakin's, does sound like Hayden's bad acting
Not to many unlockables
Co-op worthless
Force moves remind me of DragonBall Z, which I hated
Low quality movie clips
First 5 levels cover only first 30 minutes of movie
Only Anakin and Obi-Wan are playable in SP
Graphics are decent but could be much better shame on you LucasArts
More MP characters please I want to play Darth Maul


I'd give it a 65% rating

But it is fun to play over again just not what was expected.

NOT THE ULTIMATE JEDI EXPERIENCE!

STTCT
05-10-2005, 12:19 AM
I'd have to say this about the game. I like it.


Pros:

Great Graphics (definately looks better on a 50 inch than a 27 though)

Like how you switch from Ani to Obi in story mode

Customizing your powers pretty cool

Fighting against a friend in Multiplayer

The extra Footage

Challenging, but not entirely impossible.

Cons

Being an episode 3 spoiler whore - I'd have to say I was expecting the story to unfold like the movie is supposed to. I won't give anything away, but I feel as though it skips around. Like it was said above - the first levels are challenging and really feel like your in the movie, but then......spoiler tag - but its not really a spoiler...summary you jump from one thing to another you go from fighting off Grevious to all of a sudden fighting Mace? Where the hell did that come from? That's my only regret. You won't really totally spoil yourself in the game and I'm sure they left it like this so it won't give away the movie but still - come on = we are going to see the movie in a few weeks.

Astrotoy7
05-10-2005, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by STTCT

Being an episode 3 spoiler whore...

female posters should be wary of using this word to describe their zeal for anything :(

Im looking forward to playing thius game, after may 19 of course :p

mtfbwya

El Sitherino
05-10-2005, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by DarkLord60

Low quality movie clips
Hardly. These are about the same as the LoTR movie clips from the Two Towers game, which if I'm not mistaken were direct digital copies. Perhaps your hardware needs fixing.

Originally posted by DarkLord60
First 5 levels cover only first 30 minutes of movie

And that's bad how?


Originally posted by DarkLord60
Only Anakin and Obi-Wan are playable in SP

That being bad is only a matter of personal preference. Considering these are the two main characters in which the movie highlights, I think it's reasonable to assume the game will highlight them as well.


Originally posted by DarkLord60
Graphics are decent but could be much better shame on you LucasArts

Considering the amount of interaction, too much of a boost in graphics would cause major system lag. These are 5 year old systems we're talking about. They can't handle too much. The graphics are on par with low-medium settings of Jedi Outcast on a system with ps2 specs.

Originally posted by DarkLord60
More MP characters please I want to play Darth Maul
Agreed.


Originally posted by DarkLord60
NOT THE ULTIMATE JEDI EXPERIENCE! Complete (as realisticly possible considering the consoles we're on) interaction with enviroment, unlimited number of combinations, ability to use the force in near endless possible ways.

I'd say it is the ultimate jedi experience.

Name me any other star wars game that allows you to do so much.

toms
05-10-2005, 11:44 AM
i've skipped most of this thread to avoid spoilers, so i hope you'll forgive me if this is already mentioned elsewhere

Is it a bit like ninja gaiden? I assume when you say it is like a side scroller that it isn't actually from the side on viewpoint. Is it?

El Sitherino
05-10-2005, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by toms
Is it a bit like ninja gaiden? The new one, yes.

DarkLord60
05-11-2005, 12:03 AM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
Hardly. These are about the same as the LoTR movie clips from the Two Towers game, which if I'm not mistaken were direct digital copies. Perhaps your hardware needs fixing.


And that's bad how?



That being bad is only a matter of personal preference. Considering these are the two main characters in which the movie highlights, I think it's reasonable to assume the game will highlight them as well.



Considering the amount of interaction, too much of a boost in graphics would cause major system lag. These are 5 year old systems we're talking about. They can't handle too much. The graphics are on par with low-medium settings of Jedi Outcast on a system with ps2 specs.

Agreed.


Complete (as realisticly possible considering the consoles we're on) interaction with enviroment, unlimited number of combinations, ability to use the force in near endless possible ways.

I'd say it is the ultimate jedi experience.

Name me any other star wars game that allows you to do so much.

Haha wow you must really love the game.

Well I have to say The movie clips are better on my big TV but sound in clips is too quiet.

I still think Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight and JO are the kings of Jedi games.

Redwing
05-11-2005, 04:09 AM
Originally posted by Astrotoy7
female posters should be wary of using this word to describe their zeal for anything :(

Why exactly is this? Is there some rule that male-seeming creatures can safely call themselves whores in a humorous sense, but female-seeming creatures cannot? I must've missed the memo. :p

Looking forward to this game. ^^ Although honestly I hoped it'd be like the Phantom Menace game sans flaws XD (especially with good saber combat ;))

El Sitherino
05-11-2005, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by DarkLord60
Haha wow you must really love the game.

Because never before have we actually gotten to do all this stuff. Other games have you just slash a door open. Screw that, I want to slice that sucker like a pig.
Interaction with the enviroment is something we've all dreamed about and now we have it. Of course I love it, I finally get to live out my dreams, virtually, but still live them out.

Originally posted by DarkLord60
Well I have to say The movie clips are better on my big TV but sound in clips is too quiet.

The clips were pressed in before any ADR was done. So yeah, the sounds are quiet and a bit off. But the quality is hardly bad.

Originally posted by DarkLord60
I still think Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight and JO are the kings of Jedi games.

And I won't fight your opinion. They're indeed very good games.

txa1265
05-11-2005, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by DarkLord60
I still think Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight and JO are the kings of Jedi games.

But that is like comparing Neverwinter Nights to Return of the King. Different genre, style and camera.

I can't speak for the consoles, but on the DS, I like the 'two path' game (Anakin & ObiWan do different stuff), customization of Force Powers and player characteristics, and various unlockables.

I've even done OK so far with flight ... there might be hope for me yet ;)

Mike

Astrotoy7
05-11-2005, 09:45 AM
Originally posted by Redwing
Why exactly is this? Is there some rule that male-seeming creatures can safely call themselves whores in a humorous sense, but female-seeming creatures cannot? I must've missed the memo. :p



bah..I was expecting this from you or STTCT :p whore is an ugly word, especially on a pg 13 forum... but if you gals(or guys) like calling yourselves that, more power to ya !! :D

I played this game at the store the other day.... sure Its fun, but there was part of me that kept thinking "Jedi Power Battles 2005" not that that is a bad thing..... I'll just have to wait a couple of weeks so I can check it out properly :)


mtfbwya

DarkLord60
05-11-2005, 05:54 PM
Still this game is missing a key componant new music!

I do like cutting doors open something JK and Jo could have used.

El Sitherino
05-11-2005, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by DarkLord60
Still this game is missing a key componant new music!
Get the soundtrack, turn down game music and all that. Crank the OST. I have it playing 24/7 anyway. :p

Khier
05-12-2005, 03:14 AM
Welp, I've always had a thing for beat-em-ups, from the TMNT games for NES and SNES to the Final Fight series. Even that Tekken force mode hooked me for a bit.

So far, I've really had fun with this game. I'm simply respecting it for what it is, not exactly Soul Calibur a la Star Wars, but an enjoyable little action-fest. Force powers took a little getting used to, particularly in force throwing things in the direction you want... and not next to the wall where you happen to be standing. :o In my opinion, the combat is probably the best looking and most enjoyable system I have ever seen for this kind of game. Lots of cool moves, and I was extremely impressed with the fact that all of the duel characters, in MP and SP, have their own styles and set of moves. Graphics are okay, audio is pretty good sans the voice acting (yuck!).

However, the game sure does lack depth. To be honest, I think even the combat could have been deeper. If the developers could have had a few more months of development time, we could have had a much better product here. And oh my god, with a little bit of tweaking, the multiplayer duels could have been as good as Soul Calibur as far as I'm concerned. But blah, although I don't think it is quite the ultimate Jedi experience.... it is fun and addictive if you're into this kind of gameplay, which I am, so I'm going to stop typing and go a few rounds in the duel arena with my favourite character, Mace Windu. :cool:

:mace:

toms
05-12-2005, 09:10 AM
Sounds like you should try ninja gaiden.

its been getting respectable, but not great reviews... think i'll have to check it out once i've seen the film.

PS/ I'm surprised they released it so far in advance, considering how they usually try to stop details of the plot leaking out.

Prime
05-12-2005, 05:52 PM
For the most part I have only played MP thus far, but after about an hour playing with just Obi-Wan and Anakin I think it is clear the this combat system is superior to the JA system in almost every way. And for that matter, the Force system may be as well. Here's how I would break it down...

JA Advantages:
Ability to control horizontal and vertical swings.
Multiple saber styles.
Ability to use dual and double lightsabers.

ROTS Advantages:
Much more cinematic (read: "realistic") looking saber fights
Ability to string multiple and varied attacks together
Infinitely more attack moves and combos
Combos are much more effective and useful than JA Katas
I'd never thought I'd say it, but manual blocking
Blocking actually works
System leads to much more intense fights, and much less of the swing and run JA style
Players don't have the option or feel they have no choice but to kick, grip-kick, etc. because the saber is so weak
Button mashing is much less effective than in JA (especially when using the JA dual and double sabers)
No honour code :)


All that being said, in terms of being the ultimate Jedi experience, I think that goes to the KOTOR series, in the sense that it more closely mirrors what Jedi are really about (i.e. not just fighting machines), as well as the best and most indepth stories. ROTS has the best player controlled combat lightsaber and possibly force system, but probably is the weakest in terms of freedom to do what you want. JO/JA is more a balance between the two. Good story and pretty strong combat system.

But really, I don't see JA and ROTS being in direct competition with each other. They both provide pretty different experiences and are enjoyable in their own ways.

DarkLord60
05-12-2005, 08:53 PM
Originally posted by InsaneSith
I it is the best movie tie-in game I've played in a long, long time.


I forgot to add I agree to that and it is one of the funnest Star Wars games since KotoR and JO. I think 65 rating may have been a little too harsh so maybe 80 out of 100. I do love those saber locks! more like SW than swinging a colored glow stick around in JK. (Keep in mind JK is 1996-97 game)

Prime
05-12-2005, 09:02 PM
Originally posted by DarkLord60
I do love those saber locks! more like SW than swinging a colored glow stick around in JK. (Keep in mind JK is 1996-97 game) Saying the ROTS combat is superior to JK is no slight. JK will always be a classic. :)

DarkLord60
05-12-2005, 09:56 PM
Never said it was better than JK. In no way do think it is better. Note I said 1997 for the date. I just can't win with you guys lol. So defensive.

Anyway I played it again and a third time, everytime I played it I felt like something is missing, so going back to the script I have they left out wookies and other movie stuff but this is based on Obi-wan and anakin's parts in the movie not yoda or others.
I figured they probably wanted to leave all wookie content to ROTW for galaxies and its never wise to reveal to much before the movies.

Then again, SPOILER

Wookies have a small part in the film from what I understand

Nalukai
05-12-2005, 10:42 PM
I had a chance to play this game at the local EB on display and i can say i really wasnt that impressed with it at all...

maybe it was me being a straight up dueler in ja for over a year and a half now but I got more of a Soul Reaver feel from it.. Not saying that wasnt a good game what i relaly dont like about this game is that the background remains stationary while you move 3d until you reach the enxt destination point. the fluency of the sabers are done very well i agree with that, however it is combo driven exactly like your tekken soul caliber and mortal combats. I also liked the addition of a block button... however movie battles mod took care of this within JA. if they would have used the quake or doom engine in this game with the fluency of the saber twilrs i might have been impressed a little more however... they rusehd it out too far and didnt pay as much attention to the background mechanics as they did the gameplay itself.. granted the ability to melt doors with the sabwer and trace a cut in one are great ideas... however i dont think id buy this if it came out for pc.

oh yeah and also:

General Grievous sounds like a metallic Dark Helmet

DarkLord60
05-12-2005, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Nalukai
General Grievous sounds like a metallic Dark Helmet

I never thought of that but yeah it does! haha

Crow_Nest
05-13-2005, 05:50 AM
Just got the game and man is it awesome! AI is a little dumb though and graphics are also a bit outdated.

DarkLord60
05-13-2005, 03:01 PM
Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
Just got the game and man is it awesome! AI is a little dumb though and graphics are also a bit outdated.

Most ported games from PS2 to Xbox are.

El Sitherino
05-13-2005, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by |GG|Crow_Nest
AI is a little dumb though Wait until you get to the jedi. They play much better than the droids, unless you have it on easy, then they all suck.