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Plankhead
05-07-2005, 05:01 PM
I was wondering if anyone else noticed this. Raz makes a reference to a "mental dentist's office" in the Basic Braining intro. Later, we learn that Dr. Loboto is a dentist who removes people's brains.

Mental dentist?

I think Tim may have taken quite a few English classes before writing his games, because this (and a million other things) seem to prove that he has quite a bit of knowledge regarding literary devices.

itchythesamurai
05-07-2005, 06:13 PM
Dude, that's far out. And then there is that meat plant.

SerialFreak
05-07-2005, 08:35 PM
Don't forget the rabbits. :D

Jake
05-07-2005, 10:25 PM
Did you notice the rabbits bordering the ceiling and floor of the white hallway in the reception area at the end of basic braining?

netmonkey
05-07-2005, 11:37 PM
Tim Schafer is a pretty clever guy.

Udvarnoky
05-07-2005, 11:47 PM
I love how

Raz speculates there being a jet underneath Ford Cruller's lab early in the game.

itchythesamurai
05-08-2005, 12:11 AM
Udvarnoky, could you refresh my memory of how that went? I don't remember it.

AgentJess
05-08-2005, 03:48 AM
I think he mentions how that room they're in at the beggining, before the battlefield part, looks kind of like a mental dentist's office. I don't remember exactly... my brain's scrambled from watching Invader Zim for two hours in a row. @_@ I'll check and see tomorrow.

Udvarnoky
05-08-2005, 06:34 PM
Originally posted by itchythesamurai
Udvarnoky, could you refresh my memory of how that went? I don't remember it.

I don't remember exactly, just when you first enter Cruller's lab and he starts talking about Psychonauts Raz says something like "I'll bet you've got a jet somewhere under here, right?" I think it's right before Cruller mentions how he's too old to do field work and how he sends Sasha and Milla to perform missions. I just thought the ending was sort of a cool nod to that.

Plankhead
05-08-2005, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by AgentJess
I think he mentions how that room they're in at the beggining, before the battlefield part, looks kind of like a mental dentist's office. I don't remember exactly... my brain's scrambled from watching Invader Zim for two hours in a row. @_@ I'll check and see tomorrow.

Raz: So...this is it. The mental world.
Elton: It looks like a dentist's office.
Raz: A MENTAL dentist's office.

Priceless. I was laughing out loud the first time I heard that, and still do.

Zetz Darke
08-16-2005, 02:14 PM
Raz: So...this is it. The mental world.
Elton: It looks like a dentist's office.
Raz: A MENTAL dentist's office.

Priceless. I was laughing out loud the first time I heard that, and still do.

lol, I remember that now! Wow, I need to play this game again and try to catch all of the foreshadowing he did.

Smon
08-16-2005, 07:33 PM
A lotta foreshadowing was done... Oleander saying he has "big plans" for Raz's mind. Wanting the children to walk around unsupervised on the beach. The meat plant. The bunnies. I don't think the mental dentist's office was one. The jet under the base. Uhm... can't think of any more... oh geez... sorry.. can't remember any more.

Purple Squid
08-16-2005, 08:05 PM
You know, if you listen to Boyd long enough he says something about 'the fat kid with the bunny'.

Smon
08-16-2005, 08:21 PM
Oh yeah! And vernon says something about a "monster fish with hooks where his gills should be and lungs where his hooks should be".

Murray the Chao
08-18-2005, 06:39 PM
You know, if you listen to Boyd long enough he says something about 'the fat kid with the bunny'.

He also seemed to know Sheegor"the freaky hunchback girl who loves brains so much" and interesting enough, Raz"the kid with the goggles"

Purple Squid
08-18-2005, 07:30 PM
Boyd knows everything. =D

Purple Squid
08-18-2005, 07:34 PM
...The hairless lurking suspicious bear.

Purple Squid
08-18-2005, 10:48 PM
...that doesn't wrestle.

Banjewhype
08-19-2005, 11:55 PM
I liked all the referencing Boyd made to his burning of Hernando's. He said things like
"Hernando!"
"The fire will start in menswear"
"No insubordination, right boss?"
The whole ordeal with the fire just fascinates me. Another little tidbit is if you try to set fire to one of Fred's figures he says "They fireproofed this place years ago, you know, a lot of firestarters used to live here.", which I thought was another nod to Boyd.

Purple Squid
08-20-2005, 06:36 PM
I didn't even bother to think of that fireproof line. And I had just replayed That part, too.

Smon
08-21-2005, 06:21 AM
Also go into Sasha or Milla's mind after the Lungfish level and you get a kind-of foreshadow to what happened to them.

Murray the Chao
08-21-2005, 05:14 PM
Have to do it before rebraining them, of course.

Smon
08-21-2005, 05:48 PM
Right right, also the World Shall Taste My Eggs! is Oleander's whole plan, so it's foreshadowing into like 5 minutes into the future.

Purple Squid
08-21-2005, 05:49 PM
It took me forever to translate that vault. My brother loves it, though.

Smon
08-21-2005, 06:10 PM
I didn't understand it at ALL. But then I realised the chick was a brain, then it all fell into place.

Purple Squid
08-21-2005, 06:20 PM
Yeah. It was a cute brain.

Purple Squid
09-01-2005, 12:30 AM
Crap. Just listen to the loudspeakers. Oh.. so obvious...

Dipstikk
09-01-2005, 12:39 AM
Don't forget the rabbits. :D

Hey, did anyone go back and use clairvoyance on the little rabbits?

The rabbits see Raz as Little Oly's dad with a meat cleaver and a blood-stained aprin.

Purple Squid
09-01-2005, 12:40 AM
Yeah. At first that was weird. Then it kind of... made sense.

Dipstikk
09-01-2005, 12:46 AM
Yeah. At first that was weird. Then it kind of... made sense.

Heh, I admit that I used the All Powers cheat to find that one. But it's only fair: I've already beat the game twice without them.

Purple Squid
09-01-2005, 12:48 AM
I do that, too. I'll beat the game several times without cheats and then I make a file just so I could cheat. Makes for good fun, especially since Double Fine put in so much dialogue for things a lot of people aren't going to try. =3

Smon
09-01-2005, 08:16 PM
I just saw the Cheat special on this, here are some extras many missed (like me for example!)

1)Use the FishHorn in Loboto's lab and he'll think Sheegor farted
2)Before giving Sheegor Mr.Pokeylope bring it to the kids in camp for some neat dialogue
3)Tough one:Go to Skyscraper Island and climb the skyscraper closest to the mountian and go along the corner, adjust the camera so you see inside the mountain and you can see a love picture left by one of the programmers.

Thrik
09-01-2005, 09:00 PM
Dude. I had no idea about the Pokeylope one.

That is so getting done next time around.

Agent-Sarah
09-01-2005, 09:10 PM
I just saw the Cheat special on this, here are some extras many missed (like me for example!)

1)Use the FishHorn in Loboto's lab and he'll think Sheegor farted
2)Before giving Sheegor Mr.Pokeylope bring it to the kids in camp for some neat dialogue
3)Tough one:Go to Skyscraper Island and climb the skyscraper closest to the mountian and go along the corner, adjust the camera so you see inside the mountain and you can see a love picture left by one of the programmers.
I'm going to try out the first and second one when I'm playing that game.

Smon
09-02-2005, 10:26 PM
Third ones tough, took me 20 minutes to find it, align yourself with the third window to see it! Also did anyone find the "Your Name Here" sign?

Purple Squid
09-02-2005, 10:29 PM
I liked the third one--it was a pretty romantic thing to do. exdee. She better have been happy with it. =x

Purple Squid
09-02-2005, 10:30 PM
I couldn't find that darn sign!

Smon
09-02-2005, 10:44 PM
It's very, very, very tiny. Go Oleander's Door and adjust the camera so you can see behnd it, theres a tiny sign that looks like an opening credit.

Purple Squid
09-02-2005, 10:48 PM
Oh. Coolness. Thanks.

Smon
09-02-2005, 10:49 PM
Yes.. I am the egg master! Hunting eater eggs from beyond the stars... Mario Culex Fight... Adventure Eggstra... Monkey Island Time Travel... I master them all!

Purple Squid
09-02-2005, 10:51 PM
Think of all that cholesterol. :x

Smon
09-02-2005, 10:52 PM
Yeah, the Mario Culex one gave me a heart attack, where my heart jumped out of my chest and began beating me with a folding chair.

Purple Squid
09-02-2005, 11:01 PM
Wow. I hope that never happens to me.

Zee_Oddwyn
09-02-2005, 11:34 PM
It's very, very, very tiny. Go Oleander's Door and adjust the camera so you can see behnd it, theres a tiny sign that looks like an opening credit.

Ha! I remember that! I leapt off the walkway 'cause I wanted to grab it.

Has anyone ever tried pyrokenesis on a squirrel? If you haven't, try it, and see what happens!

Purple Squid
09-02-2005, 11:39 PM
Squirrel stew tastes just as good.

Murray the Chao
09-03-2005, 02:59 AM
1)Use the FishHorn in Loboto's lab and he'll think Sheegor farted
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/MithosYggdrasil/lobato_sayline.jpg:Sheegor, please! Open a window if you're going to do that.

2)Before giving Sheegor Mr.Pokeylope bring it to the kids in camp for some neat dialogue
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/MithosYggdrasil/chloe.jpg:You know turtles are just visitors from another galaxy who never left. Their shells are actually atmospheric-reentry heat shields.

3)Tough one:Go to Skyscraper Island and climb the skyscraper closest to the mountian and go along the corner, adjust the camera so you see inside the mountain and you can see a love picture left by one of the programmers.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/MithosYggdrasil/SecretPic.jpg

Smon
09-03-2005, 03:24 AM
You got them all! Here's some squirrel meat!

Gruducuuz
09-03-2005, 11:15 AM
I remember making a thread with the title of, "Wierd things at camp" with the, "your name here" sign in it. Under the name of Postage Stamp of course.

Agent-Sarah
09-03-2005, 02:44 PM
Squirrel stew tastes just as good.
Mmmmm...Squirrel.

Purple Squid
09-03-2005, 10:45 PM
Mmmmm...Squirrel.
I didn't like roasting the birds though. When they catch fire they fly away, and its really hard to get their flesh.

ElusiveSpoon
09-04-2005, 11:08 PM
I've done some poking around in Psychonauts Explorer, and it turns out the broken pole around the campire bears a portrait of Ford Cruller Apparently it's symbolic. Somewhere in the Main Lodge, there should be a picture of The Maker himself, having a bad hair day (I haven't actually found it, just the image in the resource file). Also check out the rug in the TV room for a couple of familiar faces.

And is, uh, skyscraper island the one with the planes attacking you? I truly am not the eggmaster.

Purple Squid
09-04-2005, 11:14 PM
Yup! I hated that part... the only why I could break the planes was to let them crash into me...

And apparently, as a lot of the people here know, Lili's grandfather and one of Dogen's relatives are there too.

Murray the Chao
09-05-2005, 12:38 AM
The Maker:http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/MithosYggdrasil/TheMaker.jpg

Agent-Sarah
09-05-2005, 02:23 AM
The Maker:http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y128/MithosYggdrasil/TheMaker.jpg
That looks like he has a case of bed-head.

Thrik
09-05-2005, 04:01 AM
Hee, oh man. What a flattering picture. :~

Purple Squid
09-05-2005, 02:37 PM
Lovely. Someone must have taken a picture while he was in the middle of a sentence...

Thrik
09-05-2005, 03:42 PM
The classic.

http://www.razputin.net/images/news/schaferpose.jpg

Purple Squid
09-05-2005, 04:07 PM
Woah! He looks... devious. He must be up to something. SOMETHING BIG.

Agent-Sarah
09-05-2005, 08:32 PM
Much better.