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REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-09-2005, 12:45 AM
Okay we lost all our K3 speculation threads (recent ones anyway)
So what do you want done in KIII?
If there is a Kotor III (or any Kotor) movie, who would be in it?
If there's a Star Wars TV show what's it about and do you think it will be Kotor related?

We had a few interesting threads on these topics, kind of figured they'd fare better together (until they get back on their feet) THEN THE MODS CAN GET ALL SATISFIED BY CLEAVING IT UP
J/K
Seriously I wanted to discuss them again, but figured it would be simpler to have one cluttered thread, then a cluttered forum:D (at least until it gets cramped all up in here)

Soogz
07-09-2005, 09:29 AM
There are two main things that I want in Kotor III. Those two things are, some original PCs, and New Planets like in the outer rim or something like that.

Darth Smaug
07-09-2005, 11:18 AM
MORE planets,like 20 or somethin' and more NPC's,i just want an army :D Hey sooges what about Hyrule too? :D

Soogz
07-09-2005, 12:12 PM
Hahahah yeah man that would be solid! lol.

Darth Smaug
07-09-2005, 01:14 PM
Originally posted by Darth Sooges
Hahahah yeah man that would be solid! lol.

Yeah,and a temple of time too :D

REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-09-2005, 04:13 PM
A few things for me, a JK fighting system J/K:p
BIG HUGE UBER MAPS!!!
Expandable parties, everyones recruitable and convertable.
New Engine, BEFORE YOU ALL FISH SLAP ME (especially you Goku, master of fish slaping) I just got my Xbox Demos for this month and there was one for some RPG called Oblivion, DID ANYONE SEE THE LANDSCAPING:eek: can you imagine Dantoine, Dxun, and Kashyyyk, with all those grass and trees, and just because you change engines doesn't mean you can't keep the artistic soul of the game.
Modder Friendly Utilities, again don't FS me, I wouldn't give KT and mary anne up, but it would be nice to have developer supported tools that can be compatible with and maybe even collaborate with the current favorites,
PHOTOSHOP INCLUDED WITH GAME:D
or at least make like a hundred dollar version of the game with added Modder support, not sure exactly how Modder support would be implemented, but one things for sure, it would include old files so you could have any character and any module and ANY THING ELSE.

That's enough for now because I'm hungry, THE ORDERLIES ARE BRINGING ME BURITTOS YIPPEE KIYAAYY:p

Darth Smaug
07-09-2005, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by REDJOHNNYMIKE
A few things for me, a JK fighting system J/K:p


Do you meen the fighting system of JO and JA?

REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-09-2005, 05:38 PM
Oh maybe that's what it was, never played them, Long story short some people had originally suggested an action fighting system, and all the Vets were like SHUT UP RETARD, so I threw it in as a joke, reality rule#123165464542154589713246,
Comedians don't have to do research:D

FiEND_138
07-09-2005, 08:22 PM
Alignment specific dialogs if they keep using the Influence idea with party NPC's.
A realistic Dev time table. No cashing in on the holidays with an early release. -Though OE did a hell of a job with just a little over a year dev time.-
More worlds. *cough Coruscant cough*
More access to things in said worlds. I don't think every building should be a locked unopenable door. & make these places look lived in. Not just clean hallways/rooms, if that makes any sence.
Supported tools for the modders. Could only imagine the stuff they'd come up with if LA would actually support these guys & girls.

Probably have an edit later when I've woken up a bit more.

*Edit*
If the option to turn party NPC's to jedi remains, no more of this "close your eyes" & poof your a jedi s***. Though I'm not really sure how to go about doing it -too much beer- anythings better than what happened in TSL.
Loose the wave your hands & poof a saber. Perhaps customizable hilts (though thats more window dressing & the modders have that covered). I did prefer the route they took with finding the different parts then build, I just wish it had been a bit more than said hand wave, or "hey you, I got my parts".
The writters take into account all possible character deaths from previous games. 9/10 Bastilla's head went bouncing along the deck of the Star Forge in my games, only to have her show up in K2 neck & head in tact kind of put me off. If they feel the need to make certain characters return in cameos, recruitable, etc. I hope they remember whether said character could have died earlier in the series.

REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-09-2005, 09:02 PM
I like that idea, I think, do you mean having your dialog choices actually affected by your alignment, like how things like awareness, repair, Etc. gave you more choices, if so how about class unique, choices, say if your a master you have wise sounding choices, weapon master gets LS but assertive choices, and watchman gets persuasive and interrogative choices.

You're right the levels are too bland (the downside though is it will make it harder on modders to compete, but who cares about them:D )
Let's make them look like my room (I take out at least a trashbag of garbage a week:p )

FINALLY SOMEONE WHO AGREES WITH ME ABOUT MOD TOOLS INSTEAD OF ASUMING THAT I HATE THE CURRENT ONES YAAAAAAAYY:D

FiEND_138
07-09-2005, 09:25 PM
More, like Handmaiden for instance if she's completely dark aligned, not whining at you for commiting a dark act in her presence. She'd actually support your evil. Yeah, it would be a lot more VO work, but with an extended dev time it would be possible. This is my only gripe with the state of the current Influence system. I wanted to be able to shape the party NPC's into uncaring fits of rage, instead of just changing their appearance & background on their character sheet.

Thats a good idea with class specific dialog options for the PC as well. Wouldn't mind seeing something like that at all, it would definatly make each class a bit more unique than just different bonuses.

REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-09-2005, 10:32 PM
Although I would do the opposite and have them handing out free rakgoul serum, I do like the idea:)

RedHawke
07-09-2005, 11:04 PM
As usual I agree with what FiEND posted, plus I remember Achilles posted some additions he wanted to see for KOTOR III, and I would have liked those as well.

I was dissappointed about the dialogues in TSL converting your NPC, if they had enough time I'm sure that OE would have altered their outlooks on your actions.

I.E. No Deciple or Handmaiden whining, Mira not caring if you kill someone, etc.

REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-09-2005, 11:09 PM
Yeeeah it would be nice to see Mira flinging herself upon everyone you try to kill in an effort to save them,:headbump what am I saying she actually needs to be flinging herself on the PC more:naughty: :naughty: :naughty:
And she does look cool as is, but it would be nice to have an option of letting her hair down, just to see what she would look like, and the same for Briana, oh well lets do the same with Bastila and Juhani to, and the most interesting of all what does Visas look like, she's got hot lips, but there's always that, what if she has eyeballs instead of hair question???:eek:

Darth Smaug
07-10-2005, 05:35 AM
I would like to have more feats for fighting,i'm suck of flurry,critical strike and power attack..

Vladimir-Vlada
07-18-2005, 08:06 PM
Let's see...

1. Longer Game (maybe 300 hours this time?)
2. More enemies, more enemies, more enemies...
3. More interactivity with the enviorment (you know, press every little button in the area)
4. Capability to take all party members out of the Ebon Hawk with you.
5. More planets, bigger planets (like 80 of them [at least]). More areas, bigger areas...
6. Hilt creation for lightsabers!
7. Better figthing system
8. More moves, combo moves, ability to affect the outcome of the battle
9. An addition to control HUGE epic-battles in Real Time style, that you can command troops, build a base, conrol a space battle.
10. Make the Ebon Hawk upgreadable to a Super Battle Crusier
11. To fly a Star Figther (and buy, upgrade or make some, mind you)
12. Have all the Ebon Hawk crew from KOTOR 1 to come back, and from KOTOR 2, only: Atton, Handmaiden, Bao-Dur, Kreia (ghost form, mind you)
13. More items, better items...
14. Real Romances (with a little kiss in the end, maybe?)
15. Better and improved influence system! NPC have their own opinions and they comment your actions!!! AND IT ALL AFFECTS THE STORY!!!!

That's what I could think of right now.

EDIT
:eek:

Forgot to add:

16. Ability to use a melee weapon and a ranged weapon at the same time.
17. More Force powers, more Force powers, more Force powers!!!
18. More Skills, more Skills, more Skills!!!
19. More Feats, more Feats, more Feats!!!
20. More Levels, more Levels, more Levels!!!

Lorden Darkblade
07-18-2005, 09:40 PM
I have 1 thing to say that would include everything I have.
And it is:

More time to make the game.

If they have that they can do basically everything!

REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-18-2005, 09:41 PM
"Longer Game (maybe 300 hours this time?)"

Yeah, it would be nice to add 50 hours to it:D

I agree with pretty much everything you said, except for:
NO REAL TIME STRATEGY GAMING (some people do play on console, and it wouldn't fit the game)
I LIKE THE FIGHTING SYSTEM, IT MUST BE EXPANDED, NOT REPLACED,
the fighting system is one of the main things that make it KOTOR

But AMEN on pretty much everything else:D

EDIT: I CONCUR WITH UCHI:D

The Source
07-18-2005, 09:58 PM
'Knights of the Old Republic III: The Outer Rim"
What do I want to see:
1. I like those Sith from 'KotOR I'.
2. If they do the robes thing again, I hope the bottom of the robes drag. I think the floating thing is weird.
3. At this point, my character would be so powerful that I would want a Jesus PC.
4. I want an epic animated ending, and not that dialogue crap. Dialogue is good during the game, but in the end??
5. How about being allowed to bring your 'KotOR I' Revan into 'KotOR III'. Instead of starting over, just bring the saved character right into the next game.
6. How about two PCs: One PC will be your 'Revan' character, and the other will be your 'Exile'. However, you get to pick the head pieces for each, and not the game.
7. No gender specific 'Revan' or 'Exile'. You choose at the beginning the name and how they look.
8. No gender specific recruiting.
9. 'Battle Meditation' that works.
10. Lightsaber at the beginning of the game.
11. Force powers such as 'Persuade' that works. Since the influence thing ran the game, Persuading characters was not an option.
12. I want a bad guy, which is difficult to kill, and is intellegant as Grand Admeral Thrawn.
13. I was ships to blow up.
14. Turrent games.
15. Side quests that run between planets, which are worth my travel time.
16. Bonuses.
17. I want really sweet or powerful items after I kick a main character's but, and not that randomizer. However, the randomizer is good for everything else. Otherwords, if I put the time in kicking someone's but, I don't want random items, I want an item worth fighting for. Something to help my story.
18. I want storage units back on the Ebon Hawk.
19. When things blow up, I want garbage to fly. Debri and everything.
21. I want to have fun, and not have to worry about too much dialogue.
22. Tantooine, Dantooine, Taris, HK Factory, Droid Planet, Sith Masters against Jedi Masters.
23. I want an epic war to play out in the middle fo game play, which is so epic that I cry.
24. I want a revelatioon that I never saw coming, but was hinted to throughout my game play.
25. I want a 'Padawan'. To bend to my will...

Jeff
07-18-2005, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by MacLeodCorp
5. How about being allowed to bring your 'KotOR I' Revan into 'KotOR III'. Instead of starting over, just bring the saved character right into the next game.
Then people would complain that they don't have the first game. They wouldn't do that for this game unless it was an expansion pack, and it better not be. Though I would like to see it as well.
Originally posted by MacLeodCorp
23. I want an epic war to play out in the middle fo game play, which is so epic that I cry.
You'd cry? :crybaby:

The Source
07-18-2005, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by DarthMoeller
Then people would complain that they don't have the first game. They wouldn't do that for this game unless it was an expansion pack, and it better not be. Though I would like to see it as well.

You'd cry? :crybaby:

Yes! A battle that I will be proud of!

REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-18-2005, 10:17 PM
" I want a revelatioon that I never saw coming, but was hinted to throughout my game play."

Wait about 6 months to half a year, when I get the mod skills to make my KI and II full conversions, by then the story will be finished:) And you'll never see it comin';)

" At this point, my character would be so powerful that I would want a Jesus PC"

BLASPHEMY!!! :D

"No gender specific recruiting."

NO, just recruit EVRYBODY!!!

"Side quests that run between planets, which are worth my travel time"

What about side quests that happen between planets, because space travel takes a while, and you have a larger ship, which you can also use to make money by transporting people and cargo, and it is equipped with Stores, bars, smiths, living quarters, multiple decks "live entertainment;)", Etc.

"Bonuses."

WHAT:confused:

" I want to have fun, and not have to worry about too much dialogue."

I love having tons and tons of dialog, they just need to give you more breaks between them to make them less long winded:D

"I want an epic war to play out in the middle fo game play, which is so epic that I cry."

That would be even more effective if the maps were on more of a Mercenaries scale:D

" I want a 'Padawan'. To bend to my will..."

Yeah that would make it more star warsy,...Maybe about 21-22 years old, hot red-headed girl, Loyal, pretty good in a fight pretty good in the sleeping quarters...............

One other thing I want added is more alignment bars, that give you bonuses and penalties accordingly
One describes your gamestyle,
Heroic>Non existant ghost
Hunger
Fatigue

Another thing is make it more openended for modders, I'm always asking Darth33 how things can be done, and she always tells me that those particular things are buried in the
.exe or hardwired into the game code,
So make it fully upgradeable, party lists, pretty much any addition you want to the main page stats, like the above alignment bars, make some developer supported tools that are compatible with the ones currently available,
AND PRETY MUCH DO WHATEVER THE MODDERS DURN WELL PLEASE, AFTER ALL THEY HELP SELL GAMES TOO:cool:

RedHawke
07-18-2005, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by MacLeodCorp
21. I want to have fun, and not have to worry about too much dialogue.
I disagree with this one Mac. If this disturbs your game expirience then I might suggest a FPS or RTS game, as dialogue is what makes an RPG, and having to pay attention to what is told to you is the whole point. ;)

Vladimir-Vlada
07-19-2005, 07:28 AM
6. How about two PCs: One PC will be your 'Revan' character, and the other will be your 'Exile'. However, you get to pick the head pieces for each, and not the game.
I would vote for the Exile to be a party NPC.

8. No gender specific recruiting.
What's wrong with that?

15. Side quests that run between planets, which are worth my travel time.
Good idea.

19. When things blow up, I want garbage to fly. Debri and everything.
Agreed.

warchild75
07-19-2005, 01:50 PM
More planets without a doubt and the ability when wearing robes to be able to put your hood up or down, also more of an apperance change when progressing to the light side or the dark side.

REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-19-2005, 04:35 PM
So you can stare at the back of a female PC all game long, while also staring at Male only character Handmaiden:D

AWESOME EDIT:

I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS TODAY........
for the engine upgrade............

KOTOR SOURCE

just imagine........................................

Bastila and Mira looking just as crystal clear and uberhot as ALYX VANCE
:drop2: :drop2: :drop2: :drop2: :drop2: :drop2: :drop2:

Vladimir-Vlada
07-19-2005, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by REDJOHNNYMIKE
So you can stare at the back of a female PC all game long, while also staring at Male only character Handmaiden:D

AWESOME EDIT:

I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS TODAY........
for the engine upgrade............

KOTOR SOURCE

just imagine........................................

Bastila and Mira looking just as crystal clear and uberhot as ALYX VANCE
:drop2: :drop2: :drop2: :drop2: :drop2: :drop2: :drop2:
:drop2:

We HAVE to vote for that!!! :thumbsup:

The_Maker
07-19-2005, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by REDJOHNNYMIKE
So you can stare at the back of a female PC all game long, while also staring at Male only character Handmaiden:D

AWESOME EDIT:

I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS TODAY........
for the engine upgrade............

KOTOR SOURCE

just imagine........................................

Bastila and Mira looking just as crystal clear and uberhot as ALYX VANCE

If only... *sigh*
But you gotta admit, having a Kotor Source game would be so awesome.. think about how the lightsaber duels would look, think about how when you turn a saber on it affects EVERYTHING dynamically and there are realistic lighting fading effects, think about the chicks! Oh... wait...uh... nevermind :D

Also, I agree with most of what Mac said, but i disagree with less dialogue. I think that K2 already has barely enough to make it convincing :rolleyes:

To add to what mac said:
-Better animations

in K1 the animations in cutscenes weree amazing... in K2 you get an exile crawling up from the floor and then nothing :(


-More PC sounds!!1!!10ne!!

I was dissappointed that in K1 my PC sounded like a man or woman but in K2 they were a mime :(

-More PC customizablity

I want the option to change my characters hair, or eyes, or body or anything else without having to mod

-Realistic influence + some voice changing when DS :D

I never understood why Emporer Palpatine sounds so...so... evil in the Trilogy but in the game your NPCs voices never change :( (Wouldn't it be sick if you could hear a DS handmaiden or atton voice?) Also, how about if your NPC(s) are DS/LS and you do something that is tottally against your alignment (e.g. Kill some poor b@st3rd for no reason when LS) they actually react with some character instead of just plain behaviors that never change.

Just my 2 cents.

Vladimir-Vlada
07-19-2005, 08:39 PM
Oh yeah...

Better animations (really we need them better)
Better cut-scenes (with better animations of course)
Main character has a voice (as both male and female)

Darth InSidious
07-19-2005, 08:48 PM
MULTIPLAYER!
Also, 50 Planets and 2 months of gaming time needed to complete the game, and 3 weeks worth of dialogue in total.
set of 15 NPCs
Double storyline, switching between your PC as the Exile, and your PC as Revan.

PLOT TWISTS
Actually DIFFERENT endings, with more than just two, depending on your actions throughout the game (After all, Kreia does say that from the slightest push....)

Full modding support


The different actions for different lightsabre forms
MORE ANIMATIONS

A system that won't require me to get a PC from next year to run it....

Realistic heads

Marvin the Paranoid Android

Vladimir-Vlada
07-19-2005, 08:52 PM
MULTIPLAYER!
NEVER!!!

Also, 50 Planets and 2 months of gaming time needed to complete the game
At least.

Actually DIFFERENT endings, with more than just two, depending on your actions throughout the game (After all, Kreia does say that from the slightest push....)
Agreed.

Marvin the Paranoid Android
You have: HK-47, T3-M4, GO-TO and the Remote for that.

Darth InSidious
07-19-2005, 09:12 PM
What's wrong with MP?

Vladimir-Vlada
07-19-2005, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by Darth InSidious
What's wrong with MP?
It's already been dicused. Besides, you have Galaxies for that.

P.S. And believe me it's better that I told you now, rather than they start flaming you. >_>

Darth InSidious
07-19-2005, 09:16 PM
OK.......

REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-19-2005, 10:32 PM
"think about the chicks! Oh... wait...uh... nevermind"

NO, minding is the whole point:naughty: :naughty: :naughty:

"!!1!!10ne!!"

What:confused:

"I want the option to change my characters hair, or eyes, or body or anything else without having to mod"

That would be interesting, but there would have to be ten times as many default PC heads as the others (incuding all original heads of course) just because some of those custom edited heads never look as good as the predesigned ones because of lack of artistic skill in people like me:D(tony hawk underground anyone?:D )

"they actually react with some character instead of just plain behaviors that never change."

CAN I GET AN AMEN AND A HELLELUJAH:cool:

"Double storyline, switching between your PC as the Exile, and your PC as Revan."

That was the one and only thing I absolutely HATED about Halo 2,
Dual PCs or SOLO PCs nothing less, nothing more, unless anybody wants to discuss triple PCs, but that discussion would probably lead people into wanting to play a game where you play as the FORCE and control everybody:rolleyes:

WHO IS MARVIN THE PARANOID ANDROID, what, is he like a mix between Data and Reginald Barklay?

Support for flexible objects, like tattered flags and bumrag clothing, and more stuff like ribbons and flaps on female clothing, and war banners hanging from long weapons.

On the Movie side of the thread, I realized today (yep I watch scifi channel while I remodel houses, there's duct tape on my geek cap:p )
that the woman who played Wade Wells (skinny redhaird chick) on the show SLIDERS would make an interesting MIRA, the only problem is, she didn't seem as "well endowed" as Mira does;)

RedHawke
07-19-2005, 11:10 PM
Originally posted by REDJOHNNYMIKE
WHO IS MARVIN THE PARANOID ANDROID, what, is he like a mix between Data and Reginald Barklay?
He is a character from the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy... look here. :bot2: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/hitchhikers/guide/marvin.shtml)

Google is your freind for things like this. ;)

REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-19-2005, 11:18 PM
Huh, I thought it was in reference to a SW character,
As soon as I saw HGTG I thought of that big dude from the movie, he was hilarious:D
"this will all end in tears":( :D

Darth InSidious
07-20-2005, 05:32 AM
Meh. The movie's a pale imitation. If you really want to experience HGTG, get the first two radio series and listen to them....

Smilodon
07-20-2005, 06:25 AM
I'd like:

1. many the original characters from KOTOR I and II
2. a new and modern game engine
3. more and bigger planets plus all the planets we already know :D (which should also be a bit bigger than they are now)
4. the 'real' Sith
5. more skills, feats, enhanced dialog and influence system like many of you have discribed above
6. a more balanced and complete game than KOTOR II is (!)

That's it for now °_^

Vladimir-Vlada
07-20-2005, 06:44 AM
^^^^

I agree with you completely.

I would also like to see the Dark Lord of the Sith. The Niqra'Vorg! (Sith'ari, mind you).

Smilodon
07-20-2005, 09:00 AM
;D

I forgot that it would also be nice if the developers especially balance all the classes in the game (beside the game difficulty, which I meant in my post above) and (very important!) add some new force powers as well!

Jeff
07-20-2005, 09:03 AM
^^^
Definately needs more force powers. They should just use stoffe's force power mod and I'd be satisfied though!

REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-20-2005, 07:37 PM
" a new and modern game engine"

Like my signature;)

RedHawke
07-21-2005, 01:28 AM
^^^^
I'd rather not have a new game engine, it would not be a game in the KOTOR series without it...

lukeiamyourdad
07-21-2005, 09:39 AM
The thing is by the time KOTOR II comes out, the actual engine will be way too outdated.

So a new engine that retains the same feel and type of gameplay as KOTOR I & II is a must.

Most of the things I want has already been mentionned, but I'll add a few:

-Make ranged weapons useful.

-Make single weapons worth using (other then for the coolness).

-Better looking headgear.

REDJOHNNYMIKE
07-21-2005, 08:25 PM
"I'd rather not have a new game engine, it would not be a game in the KOTOR series without it..."

If I said it before, I'll say it again,
you can adapt them to suit K's style, the result will be a game that looks like the original, only more refined then you could imagine, and a new engine could provide opportunities to make the game more compatible with other systems, and open up new possibilities.

On the subject of the source engine, don't you think that the soul of Half Life was preserved and enhanced in HL2?

I will now perform my magic trick which will instantly convert you.....
ABRA.....
Imagine naked fighting with Briana in source.....
KADABRA!!!!;)

JediWatchman
07-23-2005, 08:55 PM
I have a cool idea for KotOR III's storyline. Rather than starting out as a Republic worker or Jedi or good guy and facing the choice later on whether to keep following the Jedi or to fall to the Dark Side, you would start out being raised by the Sith; and the choice would be either to remain loyal to the Sith or be saved and go to the Light Side and become a Jedi.

Here's some other stuff I'd like to see in KotOR III:
-Play as a different type of alien like a Twi'lek.
-More planets.
-Have a more customizable character where you can customize his/her appearance.
-More weapons.
-When you select a dialogue response for your character, have him/her actually speak it with the voice you chose during customization.
-If you have good mechanical skills (repair, computer use, demolitions), it would be cool if you could build and program your own weapons, droids, or even ships.
-Longer gameplay.

That's all that I can think of at the moment, but I'll keep y'all updated if I think of other good stuff.

THE MERCENARY
07-23-2005, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by JediWatchman
I have a cool idea for KotOR III's storyline. Rather than starting out as a Republic worker or Jedi or good guy and facing the choice later on whether to keep following the Jedi or to fall to the Dark Side, you would start out being raised by the Sith; and the choice would be either to remain loyal to the Sith or be saved and go to the Light Side and become a Jedi.

-Have a more customizable character where you can customize his/her appearance.
-When you select a dialogue response for your character, have him/her actually speak it with the voice you chose during customization.


First - I like the storyline idea. It would be interesting to turn the tables on the PC.

Second - We already have the optioned of where you can customize your PC's appearance.

Third - The only wrong thing with that is it will take up alot of time.

Jeff
07-23-2005, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by THE MERCENARY
Second - We already have the optioned of where you can customize your PC's appearance.
I think he meant customize like how you can customize your face in Galaxies or Tiger Woods (pick how big your eyes, nose, ears, mouth, etc are, positioning etc). I agree, that would be very cool.

JediWatchman
07-23-2005, 09:25 PM
Oh yeah - I thought of another thing. Be able to keep playing the game after you've beat it.

THE CLONE
07-23-2005, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by JediWatchman
Oh yeah - I thought of another thing. Be able to keep playing the game after you've beat it.

Well the only reason why BioWare and Obsidian didn't make the game open-ended was because it wouldn't fit in with the story.

I.E - You beat the game as the dark-side Exile. There wouldn't be much things for you to do since you already beat the game.

JediWatchman
07-23-2005, 09:57 PM
Well, I mean after you beat it you could finish uncompleted quests and start new ones. For example, on TSL I never got new fuel for Citadel Station. I would have liked to finish that quest after I beat the game.

THE CLONE
07-23-2005, 10:07 PM
^^^^

True..

However -

If you were dark sided, then Telos wouldn't exist. Therefore you wouldn't have a place to deliver your fuel. Whenever a developer makes a game open-ended, they make sure that everyone can use it.

Nevertheless,
Open-ended would be a nice option if the story works out in KOTOR 3.

Darth InSidious
07-24-2005, 07:41 AM
Official mod support and equipment. The tools which members have made are really, really, cool, dont get me wrong, but it would be nice to be able to make entirely new modules, for example ;)
I think RJM already mentioned this in the previous thread, but it would be nice.

Also, I'd like them to TAKE THEIR TIME making it. TSL was farr too rushed.....

lukeiamyourdad
07-24-2005, 08:09 AM
I forgot to mention this and haven't read about it anywhere in this thread.

MORE NPC FACE MODELS

Seriously, there was less clones in Attack of the Clones...

warchild75
07-24-2005, 09:44 AM
I think the ability to design your characters face from your hair colour to your nose size.A bit more violence such as limbs coming off and much more force powers.:D

THE VIGILANTE
07-24-2005, 10:02 AM
Originally posted by warchild75
I think the ability to design your characters face from your hair colour to your nose size.A bit more violence such as limbs coming off and much more force powers.:D

That would be awesome. But then again, with all of the controversy with Grand Theft Auto, I think that they might not go with that idea.
:(

warchild75
07-24-2005, 10:18 AM
Originally posted by THE VIGILANTE
That would be awesome. But then again, with all of the controversy with Grand Theft Auto, I think that they might not go with that idea.
:(
Fair point plus a lot of the younger kotor fans would be pissed if it got an 18 rating.:saberr: PS where is your avatar have you not found a good one yet?:D

Smilodon
07-24-2005, 11:15 AM
KOTOR III should still be a RPG, not a FPS ^_-

Originally posted by JediWatchman
-When you select a dialogue response for your character, have him/her actually speak it with the voice you chose during customization.

Hm that would mean even more tons of voice materials, considering we want all the planets of KOTOR and TSL :D
I'm not sure if I like that idea, cause then you have voices for male and female characters saying the whole game dialog, that would be pretty much. Or at least they should restore your character's responses ingame that Obsidian removed, like the responses when your char is selected, grunts when you're wounded or a hint when you scored a critical strike...

But the ability to further customize your character's appearance is a great idea indeed.

-Longer gameplay.

Agreed.

RedHawke
07-24-2005, 09:46 PM
Originally posted by Darth InSidious
Official mod support and equipment. The tools which members have made are really, really, cool, dont get me wrong, but it would be nice to be able to make entirely new modules, for example ;)
This will never happen unfortunately...

Darth InSidious
07-24-2005, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by RedHawke
This will never happen unfortunately...

If they will not be turned, then

:lightning

:dev7: :vamp1:
:D

Rok_stoned
07-26-2005, 07:39 PM
I find myself agreeing with redjohn's implication that the KOTOR system is in need of something new after all, its star wars, the universe of star wars has always been a marvel to regard, remember how you felt when you saw your first star destroyer decades ago?how you felt "in it" when the deathstar mark II was demolished? even in the prequels this quality was never obstructed but in fact quit the contrary.

besides that maybe some multiplayer although it would take much to balance it the multi player would surely rock you cynics to the core of what you believe is kotor and allow us to bask in the glory that is star wars knights of the old republic!

DarkLord1981
03-08-2006, 09:41 PM
Here is what i would want in Kotor III:

1: More Planets!! (50+)

2: Larger Areas to Explore on each planet (So Big, you can accually get lost)

3: Balanced Classes (So, you can be skillful as all classes)

4: More Quests (Increases Game Time)

5: Multiple Solutions to Quests (LS+DS+Neutral)

6: Peaceful Solutions to Quests (For those that don't really like fighting if they can avoid it)

7: Translated Speechless Droid Dialog (Imagine T3-M3 dialog...but in a readable language)

8: Option to Start as a Jedi or Non-Jedi (For those that want the choice)

9: Multiple Class Based Starting Locations

9a - Jedi Start at Jedi Academy on Dantooine

9b - Sith Start at Sith Academy on Korriban

9c - Soldier start at the Royal Military Academy on Naboo

9d - Mercenary start at the Mercenary Camp on Nul Hatta

9e - Bounty Hunter start at the Hutt Palace on Tatooine

10: Player Character Can be Human or Alien

11: Class Specific Quests

12: Gender Specific Quests

13: Improved Character Customization (age, sexual Orientation and much more)

14: Full Romance Possibilities with Random Party Members (Each Game will provide a different Romance Posibility)

15: Improved Reputation with Party (Will follow you to your allignment, even if they were the opposite allignment)

16: Reputation with Planets (Your Actions on each planet will bring a good and bad situation to you )

17: Choose to remain a Non-Force User

18: Get Seduced by the darkside & Redeem yourself to the lightside

19: seduce NPC jedi to the darkside or redeem fallen sith back to the lightside

20: Different Ship (based on your starting Class)

What do you guys think? Be Honest, but kind about it

JediWatchman
03-08-2006, 10:54 PM
1: More Planets!! (50+)
I agree 100%.

2: Larger Areas to Explore on each planet (So Big, you can accually get lost)
I again agree 100%.

3: Balanced Classes (So, you can be skillful as all classes)
I think I agree...I'm not quite sure what you mean.

4: More Quests (Increases Game Time)
I agree 100%.

5: Multiple Solutions to Quests (LS+DS+Neutral)
100% agree.

6: Peaceful Solutions to Quests (For those that don't really like fighting if they can avoid it)
I definitely agree 100%. I am a Jedi, and the Jedi are supposed to be keepers of the peace.

7: Translated Speechless Droid Dialog (Imagine T3-M3 dialog...but in a readable language)
Now, this one I'm not sure about. Utility droids don't have an inteligent language. They don't have a vocabulator installed in them. If you buy a utility droid, you usually need it for repairing, slicing, etc. Vocabulators are for protocol droids. The beeping of utility droids is not like an inteligent language. It's like a baby crying. They cry whether they're hungry or sleepy or whatever. They don't actually have a language where they're like, "If I cry at this pitch for this length of time, it means I'm hungry." Utility droids are the same.

8: Option to Start as a Jedi or Non-Jedi (For those that want the choice)
I guess I agree. I definitely would be a Jedi, but I guess some people may not.

9: Multiple Class Based Starting Locations
Hmm...that's very interesting. I like it.

10: Player Character Can be Human or Alien
I agree.

11: Class Specific Quests
That's interesting too. I like it.

12: Gender Specific Quests
I'm not sure what those could be...besides maybe romance stuff. You're really just saying more specific on everything. I agree. The more versatility, the better. Then, it's more fun to play more than once because you can choose different paths. I like it.

13: Improved Character Customization (age, sexual Orientation and much more)
I definitely agree 100%...except maybe the sexual orientation...I would say more, but I would get in trouble and probably offend someone.

14: Full Romance Possibilities with Random Party Members (Each Game will provide a different Romance Posibility)
I guess that would be a good idea. I, of course, would never do that because romantic attachment leads to the dark side. That's a big reason Anakin Skywalker fell.

15: Improved Reputation with Party (Will follow you to your allignment, even if they were the opposite allignment)
I think that's a good idea, except they shouldn't HAVE to follow you; only if you have lots of influence on them.

16: Reputation with Planets (Your Actions on each planet will bring a good and bad situation to you )
Great idea! That's what I love about the KotOR games -- how your actions affect your destiny.

17: Choose to remain a Non-Force User
I guess that would be good for people who don't like the Force. I don't know what I'd do without the Force, though.

18: Get Seduced by the darkside & Redeem yourself to the lightside
Awesome idea.

19: seduce NPC jedi to the darkside or redeem fallen sith back to the lightside
I love it. It makes it more realistic when you can influence people a lot.

20: Different Ship (based on your starting Class)
I must admit I love the Ebon Hawk, but sometimes I do think it would be cool to have a huge ship like a Republic flagship. The Hawk should be an option, but there should also be other options.

DarkLord1981
03-09-2006, 10:15 AM
3: Balanced Classes (So, you can be skillful as all classes)

What i meant by this is for example:

Soldier has 3 Class Skill, but always only gets 1 skill point per level, which is never enough.

So, i think each Class should be able to max out their class skills with no problem with 12-14 INT

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7: Translated Speechless Droid Dialog (Imagine T3-M3 dialog...but in a readable language)

What i meant about this one is not give those droids the ability to speak, but instead of just seeing a bunch of letters and numbers, you should see what they are saying, so you have knowledge on what they are saying exactly. (ie. When Aliens speak their language, you hear their language, but you see it in whatever language you can read)

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12: Gender Specific Quests

Well, there could be like Cantina Quests, where if you are female and the cantina owner needs a dancer for a fee, you could do the dancing in a very revealing dancers dress. ;)

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13: Improved Character Customization (age, sexual Orientation and much more)

Maybe you are right, forget the sexual Orientation part. :/

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15: Improved Reputation with Party (Will follow you to your allignment, even if they were the opposite allignment)

Well, Yeh thats what i meant, they would have to be at 100% reputation with you to accept what you do and love it, even if its the opposite allignment as them.

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So, you really think that those ideas are good???

Astrotoy7
03-09-2006, 10:43 AM
I dont think the next game shouldn't even be set in the KOTOR era :) Similar but enhanced RPG, but set in different SW time frame... eg. the new Legacy Series looks real exciting or even clone wars/jedi purge era :)

mtfbwya

DarkLord1981
03-09-2006, 12:58 PM
Well, we can still have all the features i suggested in Kotor III no matter the Era.

EDIT: I just thought up another good feature.

Your Dialog Selection could be colour coded for easy selection.

For Example:

Red Dialog = Darkside Route

Blue Dialog = Lightside Route

Grey Dialog = Neutral Route (you don't gain any points)

Each conversation you have with NPCs, Droids and others will have 3 options, LS, DS & Neutral.

How does that sound guys?

REDJOHNNYMIKE
03-10-2006, 01:48 AM
Wow, the thread was like Uma Thurman buried alive :lol:

I think most people would want what you've said.:)

Don't forget, you already have another ship choice;)

DarkLord1981
03-10-2006, 06:16 AM
Well, the Eban Hawk is getting old now, perhaps you should see it as you go through your game, but you should have your own ship and its design is based on the class you start as.

And thanks, i am glad my ideas finally gets accepted by someone. :)

Darth InSidious
03-10-2006, 09:03 AM
@Astro: If it weren't set in the Old Republic, how could it be KotOR?
:)
@DarkLord1981: While many of your ideas are cool, ('though I don't like your choice of starting locations, and the Red/Blue/Grey thing would take some of the suprise out of playing the game, IMHO) it would take an age to create over 50 huge planets (say, larger than Taris...What? I got lost on Taris plenty!), IMO. And definitely keep the Ebon Hawk. It's the Falcon of the KotOR era!

DarkLord1981
03-10-2006, 09:35 AM
Well, the coloured text would not take away any surprises from the game, alot of people like to do a pure DS game or a Pure LS or a total Neutrality game and if they have colour coded dialog to point them in the right direction.

I find it annoying when i try to do a LS Character and while talking, not realising that i just got a DS Point.

So thats what its for, to prevent Pure Allignment screw ups.

EDIT: Also, Technically, if it was based slightly before the Clone Wars, it would still be KotOR. :P

Prime
03-10-2006, 10:59 AM
So, i think each Class should be able to max out their class skills with no problem with 12-14 INTBut then all the characters will be exactly the same. Part of roleplaying is making decisions about how to build the character to suit your style. Maxing everything out is just overkill and removes strategy from the game.

†Saint_Killa†
03-10-2006, 11:30 AM
Only thing I want is:

New graphics. POW!!!!!!!

Big maps. BIIIG!!!!!

COMPLETENESSS!!!!!!! NO CUTS!!!!!!

DarkLord1981
03-10-2006, 12:15 PM
But then all the characters will be exactly the same. Part of roleplaying is making decisions about how to build the character to suit your style. Maxing everything out is just overkill and removes strategy from the game.

erm, i clearly said CLASS skills.....not ALL skills.

Just the Class skills.

Soldier:

Demolitions

Awareness

Treat Injury

A Soldier gets these as class skills and a soldier should be able to max out those 3 skills with 12-14 INT, if the players want to max any others, they will need to make some sacrifices to their Attributes.

Darth Viggo
03-10-2006, 11:30 PM
Hello everyone...it's been awhile.

Anyways, all I want from KOTORIII is a better storyline than what we had in KOTORII. I still don't think I quite understand the background on all of the characters in that game, or maybe I do and their background is just lame.

Adios!

darklord_malak
06-14-2006, 12:50 PM
i agree, i want the plot to either end or lead up to another sequel. If this doesn't happen they need to make another game like kotor