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starmark2k
08-12-2005, 10:34 AM
I desided to start this thread to find out what team members you would like to see. They can be new or returning, What species, classes, genders, etc should they be. What will their characters be and why would they be their helping your PC. (i know we don't know the storyline let but, you can still think of things for the characters) This is not about the PC but the people who will be working with you.

I would like to see the return of the droids T3 and HK, the game would not be the same without them and i think this is inevitable.

I'd also like to see a Trandoshan to join your team they have always been the enemy. so a Trandoshan soldier would be cool to have in my opinion and to contrast the trandoshans aggressiveness personality how about a sullustian scoundral to fly your ship (proberly the ebon hawk)

Dark_lord_Cheez
08-12-2005, 11:07 AM
well, I personally don't care who we get as party choices, so long as the choices aren't forced on you. I'd just like to be able to refuse help from some characters, and ask help from others in their place (sort of like what was done with tsl with disciple and handmaiden, and mira and hanharr, but I want to actually choose who will join me, not the game choosing for me).

Darth333
08-12-2005, 01:45 PM
I'd like to see HK and T3, the C3P0 and R2-D2 of Kotor...without them, Kotor would not be the same...perhaps Canderous too if he has more to say than in TSL: he really lost all his personality in that game.

Apart that, I don't really mind. I became more attached to the NPCs in Kotor 1 than in Kotor 2. In fact, Kreia being an exception, I found the NPC party members pretty bland in Kotor 2. Perhaps because of those dialogues that would repeast ad perpetuum until you gain enough influence.

I hope we will have more romantic options this time around. Kotor 2 was lacking in tht regard.

stingerhs
08-12-2005, 02:20 PM
^^^^
agreed. although i thought that Visas was a bit fleshed out more than the rest of them, besides Kreia, of course.

and i personally would like to see more darkside-based characters join your party, particularly dark jedi. the whole thing with training characters to become Jedi (and turn them to the darkside) just wasn't quite the same. besides, it'd be nice to have some contrast to the many lightside characters in the two games.

Mira Dona
08-12-2005, 02:21 PM
I'd like to see HK and T3, the C3P0 and R2-D2 of Kotor...without them, Kotor would not be the same...perhaps Canderous too if he has more to say than in TSL: he really lost all his personality in that game.



HK and T3 without a doubt, I only hope that HK can keep his memory for a change.

I think reappearing twice is enough for Canderous, at least as a party member.

Unless we get some sort of mentor or teacher, I would like to be the only Jedi for a change.

And, why not have a Rodian in your party? I think that would be cool.

gonzzalez
08-12-2005, 02:38 PM
More aliens would be nice. A twilek force user on my team is quite appealing. And if the back story was worked well a Tusken Raider would be excellent.

Mira Dona
08-12-2005, 02:47 PM
And if the back story was worked well a Tusken Raider would be excellent.


Thats not a bad idea at all. In the "Outlander" story line, they did a great job with making the Tusken Jedi A'Sharad.

Darth333
08-12-2005, 04:20 PM
More aliens would be nice. A twilek force user on my team is quite appealing. And if the back story was worked well a Tusken Raider would be excellent.
I agree with the Twilek, force user or not (I missed having a twilek in the team in K2) but a Tusken Raider? I already have problems with the wookie language but it has nothing to see with Tusken Raider language...that is far from being soft on the ear ...it's almost comparable to selkath language IMHO :ears1: I think I would have to turn the sound off...

montnoir
08-12-2005, 04:23 PM
"Outlander" story line, they did a great job with making the Tusken Jedi A'Sharad.
A'Sharad Hett never worked for me. Neither did the Tusken Enclave in Kotor 1. The developers of both storylines tried their best to offer a new strange and alien mindset, but neither of them delivered - at least not for me. Both of them just felt really, really false. Both of them did the "honorable savage" but so awfully streamlined for a mainstream audience that it became as uninteresting as the Disciples story. A Tusken for party member will become the Disciple of K3. Complete with a boring and uniteresting characterization. Then I don't know how fun it will be to listen to a partymember speaking in guffaws and bellows all the way through the game.

Mira Dona
08-12-2005, 04:23 PM
it's almost comparable to selkath language IMHO :ears1: I think I would have to turn the sound off...

Maybe its a personal prefference thing, but I actually found the Selkath language quite soothing. . .

Mira Dona
08-12-2005, 04:33 PM
A'Sharad Hett never worked for me. Neither did the Tusken Enclave in Kotor 1. The developers of both storylines tried their best to offer a new strange and alien mindset, but neither of them delivered - at least not for me.

I loved the A'Sharad character and I thought that they did a believable and good job in introducing him. I only wished they had used him in more story lines and truely give his character some life.


Both of them just felt really, really false. Both of them did the "honorable savage" but so awfully streamlined for a mainstream audience that it became as uninteresting as the Disciples story.

Really? I enjoyed it a lot, in fact the whole 'Worthy Of History" quest was something that I was looking forward to through the entire first half of the game. I guess it could be because I like the Sand People anyway that I am just biased.

A Tusken for party member will become the Disciple of K3. Complete with a boring and uniteresting characterization.

Ouch. . . that was just harsh.


Then I don't know how fun it will be to listen to a partymember speaking in guffaws and bellows all the way through the game.

I must admit that I didn't really think about that, while I enjoy the Tusken Raiders, it would probably put people off having to hear a Tusken party member speaking. Though for me, I know I could live with it and ejnjoy finding out about the character.

Though a problem does arise in that, unless the pc can speak the language, you would constantly have to have HK in order to translate and that may end up being a bit much.

Jeff
08-12-2005, 05:11 PM
I, like most of you, definately want to see HK-47 and T3 return. I would also like to see Mandalore, he was one of my favorite characters. And I agree with stinger, I would like to see more Dark-sided party members.

Snafu7
08-12-2005, 05:27 PM
It would be cool to have Hk-47 back, Im a little indiferent about T3.

and i personally would like to see more darkside-based characters join your party, particularly dark jedi. the whole thing with training characters to become Jedi (and turn them to the darkside) just wasn't quite the same. besides, it'd be nice to have some contrast to the many lightside characters in the two games.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.

nas77
08-12-2005, 06:59 PM
I'd love to see a much wider range of potential party members that you could choose your 9, or however many, from. It would lend the game an even greater sense of replayability if the choices you could make went beyond just Mira / Hanharr and Handmaiden / Disciple.

IndianaSolo
08-12-2005, 07:33 PM
Apart from the two droids, I want brand new party members.

One of the most enjoyable things about playing these games is meeting new characters and having them join your party, and learning about their background. If party members from previous games join your party, then there's no real interaction since you already know who they are and all about their backstories.

Smilodon
08-12-2005, 08:27 PM
I think brand new party members will be introduced. Still, I'd like to see the droids again and also Candyman, Mission, Bao-Dur and Mira.

starmark2k
08-13-2005, 04:20 AM
I also agree with Dark_lord_Cheez and nas77. I thisk it would be nice if the team you had was made up of around 9 characters but you could chose from around 10-20. with the exception of T3, HK and possibly two other characters (the kreia/bastillia and atton/carth of the group) the rest would not be forced on you and you could pick and choose who you wanted. this could add new aspects to the game as like the hanharr/mira thing some will only join you in you are alligned the right way. some could be mercs who you have to pay to join you, or they offer their survices for some reasonn and you could either accept their help or till them were to stick it.

I to would like to see a twi'lek force user but i would like to see more alien force users in general

btyte
08-13-2005, 05:08 AM
I think it would be cool if you would control Carth or Bastila (lightside pending) at the beginning of the game to get you to the system where the "true sith", revan, and the exile are. Then once you get there, they become part of your party like in KotOR 1. It would kind of give you a familiar aspect and then bam, new worlds (The mystery feeling that both KotOR's seem to give you).

Also, of course, have HK and T3 back.

Darth Dirt
08-13-2005, 11:45 AM
I think the storyline in K2 was a lot more disconnected then K1 I agree with gonzzalez more aliens would be nice and more dark jedi and jedi based characters.

I also think T3 and HK should certintly come into the story they really influenced the last couple of games.

Darth Dirt
08-13-2005, 12:02 PM
I just had a brain wave. The thing that would make your party complete. I think a jawa would be a perfect character for your party.









:blast5:


:lsduel: :beam2: :lsduel: :lsduel: :lsduel: :lsduel: :lsduel:

Jeff
08-13-2005, 12:04 PM
I think a jawa would be a perfect character for your party.
I heartily disagree.

Most people (besides your PC of course) can't even understand them, and what good would they do?

Darth Dirt
08-13-2005, 12:18 PM
That would pose as a problem though if it could speak galactic basic like mission that would be cool. When you ask what good it would do it could come into the story and only be allowed to use guns like HK or T3 with a very high repair skill.

Bob Lion54
08-13-2005, 12:53 PM
I wouldn't mind a jawa, but only without the hood. I really want to see what those little buggers look like. hehe

Really though, Hk-47 and T3 are a must, if only for continuity with the films.

I'd like Carth to come back. Obviously that would be a problem if you killed him in K1, but if you select K1 to have a lightside ending, I hope he at least makes an appearance.

A sullistan pilot? Yea, that would be cool. I love how the language sounds, so I want a sullistan part member.

Mission!!! I really missed her in K2. It would be cool if we found out she became a influential member of the Republic. Imagine a grown up "General Mission."

How about a new HK-60? I could see Hk-47 being jealous. Imagine the dialogue. Expecially if HK-60 was really humble and a lightsider and Hk-47 thought he was trying to "step on his toes." I just find the idea funny.

Id like a darkside charactor that was in your party no matter what your allignment. Preferably a Dark Jedi that relized he/she needs to help you because of mutual interest.

This is all just off the top of my head, but this is what I would like to see.

Darth Dirt
08-13-2005, 01:33 PM
I think a new droid would be good for the story line. It would be cool if he was a different class of droid then HK and T3 that would add a little excitement to the storyline i think.

I think it would be good to add more jedi aleins and sith to your team.

i also think it would be cool if in the beggining you could choose to go the jedi accademy or the sith accademy so you can be a long time sith or a long time jedi.

I also think you should be able to have 9 characters but you choose them from about 20 characters in all.

These are just thoughts that ran through my brain so if you disagree just post something.

Darth333
08-13-2005, 02:44 PM
Mission!!! I really missed her in K2. It would be cool if we found out she became a influential member of the Republic. Imagine a grown up "General Mission."

Her appearance would have to depend on how you played K1...because there are 50% chances she is dead. Consequently, if Mission ever appears in the game, it would certainly not be for a major part.

As for more Aliens in my party, I am not sure. I have nothing against a twilek and perhaps another one but I wish they don't speak alien language as it gets pretty boring to listen to the same sounds all the time. Just imagine if Jolee would have been a Jawa...I would have never listened to his stories over and over :p

starmark2k
08-13-2005, 02:53 PM
A Jawa!?!

That would be almost as annoying as having a selkath as a party member... imaging having to put up with that language.

And i Would like to see another Calthar, perhaps not a jedi but that species must make good worriers even if they are refugees.

Mira Dona
08-13-2005, 02:54 PM
Mission!!! I really missed her in K2.


I comepletely agree, she was my absolute favourite character in K1! I ended up taking her with me juse about everywhere.

XMan3223
08-13-2005, 03:57 PM
I could deffinetely go for some more alien type species Trandoshans, Sullustans, Mon Calamari, Twilek, a hutt (ok not really), while not likely i think it would be sweet to have a character that is whatever species darth maul is.

My main thing about characters is that I think I would like to be able to pick from a lot of different characters but have only like 6-9 be in my party so like 20-30 possible characters that you can have join your team along the way but only 6-9 that you can have. And perhaps having the ability to kick ppl out and have others join or if a character dies during the story being able to replace them or somethin like that would be cool.

Jeff
08-13-2005, 04:03 PM
while not likely i think it would be sweet to have a character that is whatever species darth maul is.
Are you sure you have played TSL? Notice anything similar between Bao-Dur and Darth Maul...?

XMan3223
08-13-2005, 04:06 PM
Yes like him but I didn't exactly like Bao-Dur's character to much...

Bob Lion54
08-13-2005, 04:10 PM
A Jawa!?!

......
ONLY without the hood. I just want to see what they look like. Anyway I was joking.

Her appearance would have to depend on how you played K1...because there are 50% chances she is dead. Consequently, if Mission ever appears in the game, it would certainly not be for a major part.
........

Oh, I didn't know you could kill her. I always play lightside. I only found out you could kill Carth by comming here. I still wish she could be in K3, but oh well.

Actually, I'm pretty sad now......


.......I ended up taking her with me juse about everywhere.

Yea, me too.

Aleggy
08-13-2005, 04:21 PM
ok i agree that a return of hk and t3 should happen becaude as darth333 put it they ar the r2 and c3 p0 of kotor, i am in some agreement that it should be a whole new cast of pc and npc, however if they do decide to have some of the old characters from the previous games it would be nice to have them as possible npc of your team rather than used for cut scenes and one conversation (i know canderous was the mandalore but i didnt feel he was really part of my team he was just along for the ride so to speak) i would like the influence system to be kissed goodbye it was a nice idea but it was frustrating at best
and being able to turn your whole team into jedi for no real use at the end was pointless in my oppinion
better sith would be appreciated imho they were designed well enough but they were too easy to beat apart from kriea

Darth Dirt
08-13-2005, 04:42 PM
When i was talking about a jawa in your party i meant one that spoke galactic basic so you could understand it.

Darth Dirt
08-13-2005, 04:44 PM
If you did that i think a jawa would be pretty cool like i said earlier having more aliens with a variety of statuses.

Commas
08-13-2005, 06:12 PM
i hope there is another wookiee. I always felt that Chewie was just as much a staple of the starwars movies as Artoo and Threepio, and for me it just doesn't feel as much like star wars without a wookiee. Even tho he didn't have much to say until you got to Kashyyyk, i really liked Zalbaar. And i always thought the choice to make wookiees scouts instead of soldiers was brilliant. It makes them seem much more sophisticated. Thier natural strength and resilliance is good for melee, but their skills as a scout make them great for ranged. Zalbaar was pretty much always in my party, as he could do just about anything. Kotor, IMO, represented wookiees perfectly.

I think i'd only like to see a twi'lek if its a force user. a non force using twi'lek would feel too much like they're trying to make another Mission, i just wouldn't be feeling it.

I liked the influence system, but it needs to be for more than just turning your characters into jedi. I think i actually would have liked K2 better without all the jedi. Mira is a wonderful ranged character, but once you make her a jedi, she stops gaining all those wonderful range feats automatically. Sometimes i dont even bother converting mira, shes just too good as a scout. Also, i found it kinda hard to believe that all these people that happaned to join my party also just happened to all be force sensitive. I'd like less trainable characters and more classes for non jedi characters. I got really excited when i saw Bao-Dur was a "Tech Specialist", and on the other side of that, i was really bummed when i found that G0-T0 was just another expert droid. I already had T3, i didn't need two expert droids.

Finally, i'd like to see the droids again. i got surprisingly attached to my little T3 unit in K2. And i'd like it if Canderous stuck around for one more go. I like Mandalorians.

darth_relish
08-14-2005, 02:18 AM
if we dont see a ewok soon someone is gonna die :flamethro :bounfire:

Bastila
08-14-2005, 08:01 AM
I know the droids are like R2D2 and CSPO, but i really don't use them so if they weren't in KOTOR III i wouldn't be that borthered, also i think they should keep the influnce system as i like it, makes it more real.

*Atris*
08-14-2005, 08:36 AM
A female Twilek force user (but looks more like the twileks from Jedi Academy)

A female Cathar (Id like Juhani but another one would be ok aswell)

Hallucination
08-14-2005, 11:59 AM
Well geez all the characters I need are folks from all alingments that can be changed from Jesus to Hk-47 in personality.

starmark2k
08-14-2005, 01:08 PM
I Had a bit of an idea the other day to do with returning all of the characters from the two previous KotORs, This would depend heavily on how they deside to get the information about how the previous two games were played (LS/DS and M/F). If you say you played the first KotOR LS you will be able to have all of the original team from KotOR 1 join your party for one reason or another, but if you say you played it as DS These characters will be replaced with new NPCs. The same can happen for the info about K2 (with the obvious exseptioon of kreia). This way you can have what characters you want from the originals but if you don't want any returning characters (with the exception of the droids) just say you played both games DS. or if you only want members from K1 say you played that light and K2 dark.

Imagine sticking atton and carth in the same cockpit...

gonzzalez
08-14-2005, 02:58 PM
I think Atton and Carth in the same cockpit would end up in them trying to kill each other.....especially if I egged them on.

witchfinder
08-14-2005, 03:01 PM
I agree with starmark2k, I'd love a Trandoshan! How exactly you get him could go something along these lines: at a moment in the game you encounter a Trandoshan and Wookie fighting, and can decide who to help. Help the Wookie: light side points and he joins your party, help the Trandoshan: mega dark side points, and nice Wookie pelt hanging in your ship. That way the Wookie lovers are kept happy!

I'd love a bloodthirtsy mercenary type guy too, like that Iridorian you encounter in Manaan.

Please, no more Cathar's! Juhani is so annoying in KOTOR I.

I'd also like Atton, or a character similar to Atton to return. When I played through KOTOR II the third time, found out about his past and turned him into a Dark Jedi, he went from a regular old fool to a really cool character.

Darth Dirt
08-14-2005, 04:11 PM
I liked the mandalorians but it never gave you much of a chance to join them i thing it would be cool to have canderous back or just another mandalorian and id like to a force sensitive selkath on my team that spoke galactic basic i thing that would be really cool. I really want to see some more aliens though ive already said that about 5 times so you can ignore this if you want.

Jeff
08-14-2005, 04:15 PM
I liked the mandalorians but it never gave you much of a chance to join them i thing it would be cool to have canderous back or just another mandalorian and id like to a force sensitive selkath on my team that spoke galactic basic i thing that would be really cool. I really want to see some more aliens though ive already said that about 5 times so you can ignore this if you want.
I don't want a Selkath even if it did speak basic. They might just be one of my least favorite species.

Commas
08-14-2005, 10:48 PM
I liked the mandalorians but it never gave you much of a chance to join them i thing it would be cool to have canderous back or just another mandalorian
what about kelborn? he was never a party member, but he would be a returning character, plus, he was like mandalore's #2, so that way we could still have a connection to canderous, and he may still play a part in K3, but he wouldn't need to join the party again (its kinda weird for him to go from lv1 to lv20 back to lv6 then up to lv36 and then back down to lv6 again)

and id like to a force sensitive selkath on my team that spoke galactic basic i thing that would be really cool. I really want to see some more aliens though ive already said that about 5 times so you can ignore this if you want.

more aliens would be great, however i think we should all just agree to pretend that the selkath never happened.

starmark2k
08-15-2005, 04:42 AM
I liked the mandalorians but it never gave you much of a chance to join them i thing it would be cool to have canderous back or just another mandalorian and id like to a force sensitive selkath on my team that spoke galactic basic i thing that would be really cool. I really want to see some more aliens though ive already said that about 5 times so you can ignore this if you want.

Do you just want all the species that Annoy eveyone.

The Grey Ranger
08-15-2005, 06:00 AM
I'd like to see a new cast except perhaps for HK and T3. I'd also like to be able to make the player character non-human. It would be kinda cool to actually play a Twilek or something. It would also make the universe feel a little less humano-centric.

witchfinder
08-15-2005, 12:39 PM
Nah, I wouldn't want to play as an alien. I liked the feeling I got of "my fellow humans and I against these alien scum!". Especially on Nar Shadda!

Soogz
08-15-2005, 03:08 PM
well it all depends on who we are going to use in K3, for instance here is my theory:


REVAN

Handmaiden
T3
HK 47
Bastila
Mission
Zaalbar
Mira
Atton
Visas

EXILE

The original from Kotor 2

Mission
Zaalbar


see you couldn't have Jolee or Juhani because you either killed them or you didn't depending on which side you chose in K1.

starmark2k
08-15-2005, 03:39 PM
see you couldn't have Jolee or Juhani because you either killed them or you didn't depending on which side you chose in K1.

Well that would be true for all the characters in K1 with the exception of the droids and canderous.

IndianaSolo
08-15-2005, 04:55 PM
Species I'd like to see in the party (not all):

Twi'lek (this time male)
Rodian
Noghri
Rodian
Sullustan
Trandoshan (perfect DS party member)

Mira Dona
08-15-2005, 05:04 PM
Species I'd like to see in the party (not all):

Twi'lek (this time male)


Eeeew!

I always thought the Twi'lek males looked gross. They have this whole second chin tentacle thing going on that was really unappealing, but hey the character might end up being really cool.


Rodian

Completely agree, this would also make for some good jokes too since Rodians are suppose to smell bad.


Noghri

Have to admit that despite my vast SW knowledge, I have no idea what these are. Could you explain or have a picture or something?


Rodian

Completely argree, this would also make for some good jokes too since Rodians are supposed to smell bad.

Whoah, deja vou!

Sullustan

Interesting choice. . . .

Trandoshan (perfect DS party member)

Perfect for DS players!

IndianaSolo
08-15-2005, 05:12 PM
Have to admit that despite my vast SW knowledge, I have no idea what these are. Could you explain or have a picture or something?

http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/noghri/eu.html

They were introduced in the Thrawn Trilogy.

IndianaSolo
08-15-2005, 05:13 PM
Btw, you double quoted my Rodian suggestion. Instead of quoting my Sullistan. :)

AristotÚlēsticus
08-15-2005, 05:26 PM
i would like to have Bastila,T3,HK 47 and Candarous back, also Revan (i like to play as the exile) and a powerfull jedi master like master YODA( i dont remember his Species)

Mira Dona
08-15-2005, 05:26 PM
http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/noghri/eu.html

They were introduced in the Thrawn Trilogy.

Ah, thank you!

I never did read the Thrawn Trilogy, I just couldn't get into the story.


Btw, you double quoted my Rodian suggestion. Instead of quoting my Sullistan.

No I quoted the Sullistan, you just listed the Rodian twice. Does this mean you want more than one Rodian party member?

Mira Dona
08-15-2005, 05:29 PM
YODA( i dont remember his Species)


They still have yet to say what he is and where he's from. Maybe that could be a planet suggestion in another thread. It'd be nice if they finally answered that question. . .

IndianaSolo
08-15-2005, 05:31 PM
No I quoted the Sullistan, you just listed the Rodian twice. Does this mean you want more than one Rodian party member?

haha oops. No, that was just a typo.

starmark2k
08-16-2005, 02:28 PM
I would like to see the species plo koon is (i forgot the name). I know you can be one in JK:JA but i would like to see KotOR take on it.

Andrelvis
08-16-2005, 03:04 PM
A Kel Dor is what Plo Koon is. And I agree, they're very interesting, as are Togrutas(Shaak Ti's species), and to a somewhat lesser extent the Nautolans(Kit Fisto's species).

Commas
08-16-2005, 03:16 PM
*Suddenly misses old avatar* Hey the Nautolans are cool! I mean, sure Palpy pwned kit fisto, but he didn't pwn him nearly as hard as he pwned Sassen Tinn and the Zabrak guy! Plus they are like big alien rastafarians whose lightsabers work underwater! With a fantastic smile no less, thats more than Plo Koon had! Beat that!! i bet we wont see any tho, their head models would be insane, but man on man i would like to

Andrelvis
08-16-2005, 03:52 PM
Heheh, but if Palpatine didn't pwn Kit Fisto I would be disappointed with the Sith powers he had! Zabraks are cool, but we already had Bao-Dur... Saesee Tiin's species are pretty nifty too though! The Iktotchi I think they are called...

*Yoinked*
08-16-2005, 05:56 PM
Female Rodian! [lol. not serious]
Female Wookie! [seriously, think about it, less strong, more smart]
Female Zabrak![the Devil's reject :devsmoke: ]

Totally with the Noghri idea!

Maybe even a Bith, like a Tech Specialist or something...

A Dug! HOOTHOOT! Total darkside man!

Just some random ideas....

Prince
08-16-2005, 11:47 PM
They still have yet to say what he is and where he's from. Maybe that could be a planet suggestion in another thread. It'd be nice if they finally answered that question. . .


I would be, but I think they want to leave Yoda as he is. It will make him more mysterious and it will add to his legend.

Prime
08-17-2005, 09:08 AM
I would be, but I think they want to leave Yoda as he is. It will make him more mysterious and it will add to his legend.Indeed. It sounds as though that answer will never be revealed...

And Prince, I see you are a foolish samurai warrior wielding a magic sword!

Prince
08-17-2005, 09:43 AM
^^^

LOL

Don't worry, I'll change it in a month or two. (Probably change it to another cartoon avatar).

Anyways,

I want HK, TK, and Canderous/Mandalore back. They are the only ones that survived KOTOR 1 and KOTOR 2 so it would be best that they came back.

lightexile
08-18-2005, 10:37 AM
I found myself much more attached to the NPCs of Kotor 1 then 2. Carth, Bastilla, Jolee, Canderous, Juhani, Mission, if you ask me, all great, in depth, fleshed out characters with mindsets and personalities of their own. In Kotor 2 I pretty much just liked Atton (someone I could really relate too) and Mira. I liked Visas just because she was a miraluka, like Jerec, pretty much. And Kreia was fascinating in the fact that she fell to the darkside because of her own failed padawan, Revan. But I think the NPCs of Kotor 1 live long and higher then Kotor 2.

Ztalker
08-18-2005, 10:58 AM
I like the ideas about the Nautilans very much. They don't habe that kind of weird bobles (don't know the English word, sorry) on their forehead, like the Twilek-males. It really anoyed me, considering the Twilek-females didn't have m, and where fairly cool.....
Also, the Zabrak are a bit gimmick-like, since everyone equips Bao-Dur with a double-bladed lightsaber and a black armor....*Ugh*Darth Maul*Ugh*
The Nautilans would be a great Aliens race since they are fairly muscular compared to the humans, and fairly cool. Also, why did no-one considder a Mirakula as PC? Would be cool, lifeless eyes, Uber-Jedi powers.....
Another point: In many screenshots of Kotor 1 i see people playing with the half-long hair-male. Didn't it bother you at all there wasn't one in Kotor 2?

I will conclude: The Chraters iw ould consider great are:
-Nautilans
-Mirakula
-Twilek CAN be cool....if re-designed without the strange things on his forehead.
-Long heared PC, more mullet-like as Obi-Wan, Anakin, or even a pony-tail like Exar Kun.

Darth Dirt
08-18-2005, 01:05 PM
Droids, droids, droids i love droids so i really want to see T3 and HK again that would be swell.







:mob: :mob: :mob: :lurkblast: :lsduel:


:lurkblast: :launcher: :lsduel:

Andrelvis
08-18-2005, 06:19 PM
Or maybe some new droids too! :)

Falcon 117
08-18-2005, 09:04 PM
i would like to have Bastila,T3,HK 47 and Candarous back, also Revan (i like to play as the exile) and a powerfull jedi master like master YODA( i dont remember his Species)

Yoda's species are called Whills, I think.

Jeff
08-18-2005, 09:21 PM
Yoda's species are called Whills, I think.
Yoda's species is unknown.

Mira Dona
08-18-2005, 09:24 PM
I would be, but I think they want to leave Yoda as he is. It will make him more mysterious and it will add to his legend.


He would seem more mysterious if he was the only one of his kind in the SW universe, but since the appearance of Yaddle, I think it's about time they explore that.

Prime
08-18-2005, 09:28 PM
It has been confirmed that it will never be revealed.

Mira Dona
08-18-2005, 09:30 PM
It has been confirmed that it will never be revealed.

That's just rude.

Mono_Giganto
08-18-2005, 09:43 PM
The two droids need to come back. As for anyone else, the only person I can see coming back from K1 is Bastila, since she pretty much survived K1 (She could die theoretically, but that was by killing her while playing LS, and who does that?), and is sort of tied to Revan. From K2, the only one I think would come back is Visas, as she does mention following you around after killing Nihilus. (I'm of the impression we'll be playing the Exile again.) Besides those 4, I'm hoping the rest will be new.

stationhater
08-18-2005, 10:03 PM
i would like to see a few darker characters. I dont just mean dark sided jedi, but some real horrors. At least one character who was as trigger happy as HK, as remorseless and Canderous, and as manipulative as Kreia. I personally became quite fed up with the constant lighthearted blabbering with Mira, Bastilla, Carth, Atton, Visas. It would be nice to have a character who truly responded to cruelty in conversation and who reflected so in his actions.

but no matter what keep the influence idea (but maybe add a way to check your influence on each character) and perhaps integrate it into their actions sort of like a morale level in basic turn based strategiy games upon which their willingness to back you up on your decisions is based. This way you cant be walking around with a light side jedi and a pirate and expect everything to be hunky dory.

DarthPeldorJoi
08-19-2005, 02:25 PM
I like the idea of being able to choose. I am sick and tired of all the humans you get in kotor 2 so i'd like to see some aliens. I would also like to see a female twi'lek force user like aayla secura. and a good balance of force users/can be force users. and the ones that you can make into jedi should change their personalities once they do.

Commas
08-19-2005, 05:08 PM
i think the influence system needs to be tweaked just a tad. first of all, like everyone else has said, if you are lightside and have full influence with Visas, she should probably not want to cleanse the onderon cantina of life, and if you are full darkside, and have high influence with handmadien, she probably shouldn't be lecturing you on all your dark side doings,

but in aditiont to this, i think it should be harder to gain influence with characters who are inherently opposite of you. after my first conversation with Visas as a lightsider she had practically full influence and was just shy of lightside mastery. Visas is a sith, it should be much harder to gain influence with her than it would be with Bao-Dur, who is very lightside in nature. It shouldn't be impossible to gain influence with these characters, but the way it is now, its like a bond movie where there is an evil female villan working for the bad guy, bond sleeps with her, and poof by morning shes one of the good guys, drooling all over bond and making his martini. If a character starts as darkside, i should have to work a lot harder to bring them back to the light, especially since according to all the movies, this task is near impossible. corrupting a character to the dark side would be a lot harder. perhaps you could even involve the characters will save or something similar to see if they have enough will power to resist you're temptation. well, maybe not will, since that is used for other things more important, but some kind of dice roll that is mulitiplied by the characters standing on the light/dark continuum

EDIT: @Ztalker: YES! Another Nautolan Fan!!

SWG-Romulus
08-19-2005, 05:52 PM
Yoda's species are called Whills, I think.

That has always been Fan Folklore regarding the infamous Tome, Journal of the Whills, which Lucas supposedly got the information regarding the GFFA from.

Lightsider
08-21-2005, 12:06 AM
Does anyone agree that Mission Vao should become a jedi?? I would like to see everyone come back in some form or another, even if they are just on the New Jedi council, Mission, Juhani, Jolee, Bastila, Atton, Bao-dur, Handmaiden, Visas, Disciple, Mirra, and you would have to bring back Zaalbar even if he has taken over his tribe on Kashyyyk. Now to make things interesting, your main characters would be Exile and Revan, being able to switch back and forth depending on their own certain Quest, kind of like resident evil, also they should now have Padawans, Mandalore will be in charge of a new mandalorian army as Revan requested him to do for the prupose of every general needs an army, So what does Revan know about what is comming?? T3 and Hk will be on the companion menu, they should aslo bring in some new people that you should be able to choose from in the quest itself Carth would have to be In charge of the republic forces or make him a senator. Maybe we could have Dustil as one of the Padawans, and maybe Revan met up with Yuthura ban and she decided to go with him on his quest to the Unkown regions?? Let me know what you think Of these ideas, I would be interested to here someone else's spin.

Mira Dona
08-21-2005, 02:16 AM
Does anyone agree that Mission Vao should become a jedi??

Not really, I thought she was perfect just as she was.

DarthSion101
08-22-2005, 08:45 AM
They need a playable Hutt in the party. how cool would it be to have a big slithering slug, who has force powers and a lightsaber.

Jeff
08-22-2005, 10:54 AM
how cool would it be to have a big slithering slug, who has force powers and a lightsaber.
not cool.

:jab1 + :saberg: = :chop1:

IndianaSolo
08-22-2005, 12:45 PM
They need a playable Hutt in the party. how cool would it be to have a big slithering slug, who has force powers and a lightsaber.

That would be a terrible, terrible idea. Hutts aren't even supposed to be Force-sensitive (I still don't know how or why they gave the okay for the Hutt Jedi in Darksaber).

DarthSion101
08-22-2005, 04:15 PM
c'mon guys and gals lighten up a bit....i was only kidding. Hutts are kinda ridiculous in a comic sense.

Ultima Weapon 5
08-23-2005, 09:57 PM
I want to see a person in my race like Plo-Koon. And also a Yoda guy. That would be great. That's mostly all i want. I just want them to make even more interesting characters.

Jetstorm
08-24-2005, 02:54 AM
Here is my wishlist for new alien characters and classes:

Male Rodian - DSide - Assassin
Male Sullustan - DSide - Hacker
Male Trandoshan - Neutral - Soldier
Male Shistavanen - LSide - Scout
Male Cathar - Neutral - Bounty Hunter
Male Bothan - DSide - Sith Marauder
Female Kaminoan - LSide - Jedi Consular
Female Wookiee - LSide - Tech Specialist
Female Chiss - DSide - Scoundrel
Female Twilek - Neutral - Force Adept

Jeff
08-24-2005, 11:00 AM
Here is my wishlist for new alien characters and classes:

Male Rodian - DSide - Assassin
Male Sullustan - DSide - Hacker
Male Trandoshan - Neutral - Soldier
Male Shistavanen - LSide - Scout
Male Cathar - Neutral - Bounty Hunter
Male Bothan - DSide - Sith Marauder
Female Kaminoan - LSide - Jedi Consular
Female Wookiee - LSide - Tech Specialist
Female Chiss - DSide - Scoundrel
Female Twilek - Neutral - Force Adept
No Humans? :xp:

Lord-Revan
08-24-2005, 07:21 PM
I believe that Revan will be the playable character in the KoToR III the reason why i think this is because of the message you get from T3 and then on the Telos Station with Carth.





:sniper9: :duel:

Jeff
08-24-2005, 07:37 PM
:waive1: Welcome to swk Lord-Revan.

In the future, you can press the edit button on the bottom of your posts to edit it instead of double posting, or you can delete posts and repost them in the correct thread.

Enjoy your stay :)

Achilles
08-24-2005, 08:31 PM
Here is my wishlist for new alien characters and classes:

Male Rodian - DSide - Assassin
Male Sullustan - DSide - Hacker
Male Trandoshan - Neutral - Soldier
Male Shistavanen - LSide - Scout
Male Cathar - Neutral - Bounty Hunter
Male Bothan - DSide - Sith Marauder
Female Kaminoan - LSide - Jedi Consular
Female Wookiee - LSide - Tech Specialist
Female Chiss - DSide - Scoundrel
Female Twilek - Neutral - Force Adept Pretty good list. I do take issue with the Neutral Trandoshan, the Chiss, and the Kaminoan. Trandoshans are pretty much culturally DS. Chiss were unknown until NJO and Kaminoans are a little too "Episode II" for a KotOR story, IMHO. I do agree that we need more races in the party, but I'm with DarthMoeller on the humans. Gotta have a least a couple. :D

Jetstorm
08-24-2005, 09:03 PM
Well of course there has to be humans. That goes without saying. I'm just interested in more aliens!

The Trandoshan could be a social outcast or something. After all, just because the species in general is dark side doesn't mean every single member of their society is. I think the Kaminoan would be okay as long as she is the only one you ever meet. The Chiss could be a mysterious person you meet in the unknown regions and have no clue what she is. I dont know, I'm just pushing out ideas.

General_Trageto
08-25-2005, 04:18 AM
Hmm, I like the idea of having a chiss in the party, I kinda like that species, especially those glowing red eyes ... :)

Anyway, not sure, if this hasn't been mentioned yet, but how about having some sort of animal/pet join your party like in some other RPGs, that might make up an interesting feature. K2 already featured the beast trick, this could be extended so at a certain point you could have control over a certain animal character. Maybe a Vornskr or a Kath hound?

Mira Dona
08-25-2005, 04:25 AM
Anyway, not sure, if this hasn't been mentioned yet, but how about having some sort of animal/pet join your party like in some other RPGs, that might make up an interesting feature.


I thought that role was filled by T3. More often than not he seems like a loyal dog.

fresnosmokey02
08-26-2005, 12:02 PM
I too think there should be more aliens for variety. How about an Ewok? There's a nasy little ewok S.O.B. in the new Star Wars novel trilogy. I always thought ewoks were relatively harmless, thier militancy notwithstanding. But this one's got a real big bug up his you-know-what. It makes for a very interesting character. I also think there should be non-human PC's. I don't really care too much about which ones. I just want some variety.

Darth333
08-26-2005, 12:08 PM
I don't mind more Aliens (twileks are always a good choice IMHO) but not too many of them as I believe it would limit interaction...and if they add more, they have to speak basic otherwise I'll have to turn the sound off. We need humans too: I am not sure anyone would have enjoyed a romance with an Ewok or a Jawa instead of Bastila or Carth in K1 :p

fresnosmokey02
08-26-2005, 12:11 PM
EWWWWWWWWW! Romance with a rat the size of a 5 yr old human? (Jawas are supposed to be rodent like).

SithLordOfDark
08-26-2005, 10:52 PM
:ewok: you what would be really cool? a ewok character!! lol that would be fun. also , Mission, cool character!

I reaaly missed Juhani though I think she was the best done character, other than Carth. THat's why i liked K1 so much storyline and great chars. K2 sucked in that field

ForceFightWMe12
08-27-2005, 12:32 PM
I believe that Revan will be the playable character in the KoToR III the reason why i think this is because of the message you get from T3 and then on the Telos Station with Carth.





:sniper9: :duel:


YES!!!!!!!! I think Revan NEEDS to be the playable character in KOTOR III. He'd (she'd) return to the Republic from the Outer Rim and beyond, gather his (her) old crew (Carth, T3, HK, Canderous, then Bastila, Jolle, Jahauni, Mission, and Zalbaar if they we'ren't killed) and then go on to take on the True Sith or whatever. Of course, I think that the Exile and his(her) crew would need to join up with them eventually. That way, maybe both stories would come to a close in one game. It would be fine with me if they made KOTOR a game trilogy.

Desolation
08-27-2005, 03:29 PM
I believe that Revan will be the playable character in the KoToR III the reason why i think this is because of the message you get from T3 and then on the Telos Station with Carth.
I can see that being possible actually. They mention Revan quite a bit during the game, and then that messege from T3 and the Carth/Bastilla cutscene towards the end kinda makes you think we will actually find out what happens with him, but you don't. Obsidian kinda left the Revan situation at a cliff hanger, so I could see them going with that in the third game.


As for party characters, I would kinda like Mission and Big Z to return, and a "Yoda" type character (not sure what that race is called). Actually, I think all previous characters should return in some form or another, whether in your party or not.

SaeseeJim
08-28-2005, 12:19 AM
a Female wookiee to see if they are as powerful as male wookiees, and an Iktotchi or a Kel-Dor

ForceFightWMe12
08-29-2005, 09:38 AM
a Female wookiee to see if they are as powerful as male wookiees, and an Iktotchi or a Kel-Dor


Okay, no offense to you or any of the other pro-wookie people out there, but i'm not sure i want another wookie life-debt. the whole thing can get a little annoying.

First you've got Zalbaar who pledges you his life-debt but refuses to tell you anything about himself until you go to Kashyyk. Then, in KOTOR II, you've got a crazed idiot wookie running after you trying to kill Mira and end his life debt. A little annoying.

starmark2k
08-29-2005, 10:23 AM
Okay, no offense to you or any of the other pro-wookie people out there, but i'm not sure i want another wookie life-debt. the whole thing can get a little annoying.

First you've got Zalbaar who pledges you his life-debt but refuses to tell you anything about himself until you go to Kashyyk. Then, in KOTOR II, you've got a crazed idiot wookie running after you trying to kill Mira and end his life debt. A little annoying.

I partly agree with you the life dept part is getting quite old but i think you do need a wookie in it even if its only an option.

lukeiamyourdad
08-29-2005, 11:15 AM
Chiss were unknown until NJO

The Chiss were introduced with Grand Admiral Thrawn in the Thrawn Trilogy and the best space-sim ever Tie Fighter.
I would love a Chiss.

A Wookiee is a must, a Kel-Dor would be just cool and a Twi'lek woman should be there for eye-candy :)

ForceFightWMe12
08-29-2005, 11:58 AM
I partly agree with you the life dept part is getting quite old but i think you do need a wookie in it even if its only an option.

Okay, maybe you do need a wookie. After all, they're pretty handy when all you need is brute force.

A Wookiee is a must, A Kel-Dor would be just cool and a Twi'lek woman should be there for eye-candy

I think that maybe a Twi'lek should be added into the party...although maybe not for the same reasons as you though...

_Phaedrus_
08-29-2005, 06:32 PM
Twi'lek as party member? I guess that would be okay. As long as he/she can actually do stuff and isn't colored an obscene shade of blue, I could get used to it.

Personally, I think we need a humanform maintenance doird named Lopez who speaks spanish. kthnxdrvthru. :P

Irae
08-29-2005, 07:51 PM
what about a holocron?
like a teacher for the jedi which u are..,
and yeah, kel-dor (maybe female (never seen this one)) is good or eventually that female twi-lek ;)
also bothan race is good, they are wise though, or ... hmm, let me think...
...sebulba's kind..? =PPP

Commas
08-29-2005, 07:59 PM
...sebulba's kind..? =PPP

he's a dug (http://www.starwars.com/databank/species/dug/index.html)

Irae
08-29-2005, 08:08 PM
surething, i'd just lost it from my mind =)
anyway if i said a dug, not everyone could know what i've meant...
but when i say "sebulba's kind"... lol it just reminds me how he is funny =P

Vince Trageton
08-30-2005, 07:07 AM
The Chiss were introduced with Grand Admiral Thrawn in the Thrawn Trilogy and the best space-sim ever Tie Fighter.
I would love a Chiss.

OK, this is a little off-topic, but I think the chiss as such weren't mentioned in the Thrawn trilogy. There he was just some nonhuman. I think what he meant was that the chiss as a race, a people, were discovered in the NJO series, since they came from some unknown regions as well.

OK; rant over.

As for the Wookiee thing ... well, I have hardly had him in my ingame party in K1 or K2, so I probably won't miss one.

An interesting aspect would be indeed to have Revan and the Exile appear, be it PC ro not. I'd be rather interested in their confrontation, after all, the Exile had left Revan after the battle of Malachor V. there could be old grudges and such things.

lukeiamyourdad
08-30-2005, 09:14 PM
OK, this is a little off-topic, but I think the chiss as such weren't mentioned in the Thrawn trilogy. There he was just some nonhuman. I think what he meant was that the chiss as a race, a people, were discovered in the NJO series, since they came from some unknown regions as well.


The word Chiss is mentionned but you are right, they, as a race, weren't specifically mentionned.

Besides, he's the coolest Chiss ever.

Vladimir-Vlada
08-31-2005, 05:55 AM
Okay...

Here are my characters:

Revan should be the playable character. But please make him a non-Force user class at the beginning.

There should be a Kreia-like character, only ligh-side, more like... Obi-Wan Kenobi. :D Called Dorian, a Jedi Master.

The Exile should be a party member, the Exile's gender is determined through conversation. If the Exile's a LS Male, you get a character called Ryan Pano (clone of Pierce Brosnan). If the Exile is LS Female, you get a blond woman called Allana Fayden. Dorian and the Exile should be the first two party member's to join you crew.

Carth should join you also, he is definaetly one of the most important characters in the game.

What about Bastila?! It would be CRIMINAL not to bring her back.

I want Mission to come back... You too, Big Z.

Juhani should return also.

One of the worst crimes would be: Not to bring Jolee back. Bring him back.

Come back, Canderous.

Dustil should be a part of your crew.

HK-47 and T3-M4 definaetly are coming back.

Atton should join up.

Brianna also.

Bao-Dur without question.

No doubt that Mira will come back also.

I'm counting on the Disciple.

Now the bad guys:

Kreia should return in Ghost Form.

Sion should also come back.

Griff should be a bad guy.

Head of Czerka.

Head of the Exchange.

Dark Lord of the Sith (Sith'Ari): Niqra'Vorg

Vince Trageton
08-31-2005, 07:45 AM
You could just have said 'every major character from K1 and K2 plus a few others'

Anyway, I doubt Carth will join your party. He's a fleet admiral now, and I don't remember many flag officers returning to that kind of 'active' duty.

As for Mission and Zaalbar, dunno. I was never too fond of those 'teenage sidekicks' Well, I guess I'm growing too old ... :D

Canderous was cool, I think he deserves a comeback, be it himself or in his role of Mandalore.

I definitely want Bastila back, this jedi princess was one of my favorite characters.

The idea of bringing in the Sith'ari sounds rather interesting. After all Revan was off to fight the 'true' sith. Featuring the Sith'ari - or some Sithlord who wants to become the Sith'ari (possible?) would surely beef things up.

Bastila
08-31-2005, 03:29 PM
You got to remeber that your going to get new party members as well.

nas77
08-31-2005, 08:18 PM
Besides, he's the coolest Chiss ever.
More than that, he's probably the coolest character ever.

Anyway, I don't really mind who comes back and who doesn't, apart from the big two: Revan and the Exile have to return.

jblue789
08-31-2005, 09:33 PM
I say no Revan or Exile as PCs or party members. But they have to be there as NPCs. How do you make it so that neither are put into too much detail, possibly ruining some little things? Have them both wear masks >XD Revan wears his/her old mask, while Exile wear's Nihilus' mask. :O Some early conversation would have to set them to male/female and light/dark. And why would they wear the masks if they were light? Well, maybe they found the True Sith and their presence forever tainted them, and some forcey magical thing or something in the masks reduced the risk of a breakout of dark stuff?

As for other characters, T3 and HK are probably required :P Maybe at the end you could have them be destroyed, or left somewhere. D: P:< Also, some other old characters from K1 and K2 are a must. If not as party members, at least as NPCs. An adult Mission would be kewl. :O Also, what if the time between both was a lot more than the earlier 4 years? What if it was several decades :O O_O Anyways... that would probably fit more for a transition from trilogy to another trilogy. There has to be some old master person. Maybe like a hidden Jedi, who had kinda lost his way and became more of a grey person (like Kreia and stuff, only doesn't turn out to be evil at the end...)And he/she met you (the PC obviously :O) and taught you from a young age. It would be interesting to start as a trained (though in a more unorthodox fashion) Jedi, already knowing some force powers and stuff. Maybe have you start at a higher level than just 1. And the prologue stuff could be you going through your training. .-.

The last two had too little alien party members, at least for me. And the pool for the possible party members should be quite big, with a few mandatory ones. And other stuff.

Traveler
09-02-2005, 02:47 PM
As far as returning characters, I'd like to see Yuthura from K1 make another appearance. I realize you'd have to assume the player didn't kill her off, but, in my opinion, she was one of the few strong female characters in the series so far.

Or, if they do provide a twilek NPC, let's please not have another wuss like Mission...:)

I'd also really like to see a DS Yoda character(don't know what his race is called). I just think it could be funny to have one of the ultimate "light sided race" characters be evil.

Bob Lion54
09-02-2005, 03:05 PM
Or, if they do provide a twilek NPC, let's please not have another wuss like Mission...:)


Hey! I liked Mission.

Welcome to LF!

nas77
09-02-2005, 03:36 PM
I'd also really like to see a DS Yoda character(don't know what his race is called). I just think it could be funny to have one of the ultimate "light sided race" characters be evil.
Yeah I'd like to see that as well, it would be a really cool character. btw anyone know what Yoda's species is called?

Bastila
09-02-2005, 03:58 PM
Yeah I'd like to see that as well, it would be a really cool character. btw anyone know what Yoda's species is called?


No one knows what there are called or where there from.

Achilles
09-02-2005, 04:32 PM
As you can see here, GL never named Yoda's species.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/yoda/index.html

RedHawke
09-03-2005, 01:17 AM
Or, if they do provide a twilek NPC, let's please not have another wuss like Mission...:)
:eyeraise: What? How could you not like our precious little blue twilek! :xp:

Oh well... to each their own! :)

Aurora Merlow
09-03-2005, 02:31 AM
As long as it has Revan, Bastila and Carth not fussed

A mixture from kotor and TSL would be good

DarthLinde
09-03-2005, 08:22 PM
I don't know why but for some reason I think a gamorrean would be a good party member.

Jeff
09-03-2005, 09:02 PM
I don't know why but for some reason I think a gamorrean would be a good party member.I don't. And I think many would agree with me. Why would a Gammorean be hanging around a Jedi?

fresnosmokey02
09-03-2005, 09:10 PM
Isn't there a gommorean jedi in the NJO book series?

Jeff
09-03-2005, 09:17 PM
Isn't there a gommorean jedi in the NJO book series?
I haven't read them, but I hope not. I was planning on starting to read them pretty soon, but if there's a gammorean jedi...

:xp:

DarthLinde
09-03-2005, 11:26 PM
I don't. And I think many would agree with me. Why would a Gammorean be hanging around a Jedi?
Well, like Jabba used them, generations of Hutts have. This one is much more intellegent than the rest and wants to destroy Motza the Hutt so he'll have all the power on Nal Hutta.

montnoir
09-04-2005, 05:22 AM
Gammorreans as a species aren't intelligent - EVER and most certainly not intellectual.

starmark2k
09-04-2005, 06:04 AM
I Think the gamorian was genetically enhanced in NJO, I don't think he was a jedi he was just apart of the wrath fighter squadron.

ExtreamJedi12
09-04-2005, 08:08 AM
Maybe the could add a Yuuzhan Vong charecter.

starmark2k
09-04-2005, 08:49 AM
Maybe the could add a Yuuzhan Vong charecter.

The Yuuzhan Vong won't be discovered for another 4000 years

lukeiamyourdad
09-04-2005, 04:50 PM
I was planning on starting to read them pretty soon, but if there's a gammorean jedi...:xp:

Only because of that?! :rolleyes:

fresnosmokey02
09-04-2005, 05:35 PM
I Think the gamorian was genetically enhanced in NJO, I don't think he was a jedi he was just apart of the wrath fighter squadron.

I thought he might have been part of Wraith squadron, which is composed of all jedi pilots. But he may have been part of Rogue squadron. And yes, he was genetically enhanced and much more intelligent than your run of the mill gamorrean.

DarthLinde
09-04-2005, 10:25 PM
I have know idea what your talking about.(Only know about the movies and kotor) I have a better idea! Instead, lets brake into a hutt base and kill the gammoreans! (Don't know why I wanted one in the first place)

fresnosmokey02
09-04-2005, 11:33 PM
I have know idea what your talking about.(Only know about the movies and kotor) I have a better idea! Instead, lets brake into a hutt base and kill the gammoreans! (Don't know why I wanted one in the first place)

Sounds good to me!

dragon2sword
09-05-2005, 07:51 AM
i think u should hav a yoda species character :)

Aurora Merlow
09-05-2005, 08:07 AM
Yeh how good would that be, a little yoda flying around with a lightsabre. Maybe he could be like a mentor that guides you through the unknown regions

fresnosmokey02
09-05-2005, 10:33 AM
Yeh how good would that be, a little yoda flying around with a lightsabre. Maybe he could be like a mentor that guides you through the unknown regions

Ya, we always think of Yoda (and in turn his species, because we have no other examples - and Vandar is the same) as old and wise, a jedi master, council member, and one who sends knights off on their adventures. What would a whatever-that-species-is be like as a young padawan or knight, not so wise, full of energy and adventure? Or even one turned to the dark side?

starmark2k
09-05-2005, 10:50 AM
Ya, we always think of Yoda (and in turn his species, because we have no other examples - and Vandar is the same) as old and wise, a jedi master, council member, and one who sends knights off on their adventures. What would a whatever-that-species-is be like as a young padawan or knight, not so wise, full of energy and adventure? Or even one turned to the dark side?

Perhaps you could go to their homeworld and finally give them a name. although this would make them less mysterious.

ExtreamJedi12
09-05-2005, 10:51 AM
The Yuuzhan Vong won't be discovered for another 4000 years
Yeah. Maybe a Wookie Jedi.

*Yoinked*
09-05-2005, 02:24 PM
Maybe a Trandoshan instead of a wookie, I mean they are just as strong, plus cooler in my mind.

Also, what about a Assembler, like Kudar Mubat (sp?) from the Bounty Hunter Wars, instead of a hutt for all of the bounties, i mean Hutts are getting pretty old, and it would be pretty sweet to kill for a spider, and get paid by little banking nodes and all...

nas77
09-05-2005, 05:19 PM
Ya, we always think of Yoda (and in turn his species, because we have no other examples - and Vandar is the same) as old and wise, a jedi master, council member, and one who sends knights off on their adventures. What would a whatever-that-species-is be like as a young padawan or knight, not so wise, full of energy and adventure? Or even one turned to the dark side?
Or one who isn't force sensitive; instead he's a rough-around-the-edges scoundrel with his own smuggling vessel. Now that would be different.

MasterWakt
09-05-2005, 10:42 PM
My thoughts . . .

Bastila and Carth should be playable characters in the beginning tutorial. They are searching through the asteroid field of the remains of Malachor V for any sign of what happened to the Exile, maybe about a year after TSL. Bastila feels something in the force and decides to land on a relatively large asteroid, only to be ambushed by Sith Assassins. [ They will not be playable afterwards. ]

You just so happen to be a Jedi Apprentice on the cusp of becoming a Jedi Knight -- the only thing holding you back from becoming one is the lack of your master, Brianna, who has travelled to Coruscant to find out if she was the only one who sensed a distress call from Bastila only a few days ago. [ You are re-united with her eventually in the game. ]

Bao-Dur and T3-M4 are still hard at work on the Telos Restoration Project. HK-47 is in the outlying areas of the system, too, attempting a solo search for the HK-50 factory.

So basically, in this suggestion, the returning characters would be the Handmaiden, Bao-Dur, and the two droids.

The new characters would be Kelborn (I love the idea, he-who-came-up-with-the-idea-earlier-in-this-topic), a male Chadra-Fan mechanic (always in conflict with Bao-Dur), a male Rodian smuggler, a male Twi'lek who supposedly works for the Genohardan, a female human pilot, and a female assassin. All of the characters have the ability to become Jedi, with the exception of those who are already Jedi, the droids, and Kelborn.

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Much longer and in-depth than I was hoping for. o_o

ExtreamJedi12
09-10-2005, 09:31 AM
My thoughts . . .

Bastila and Carth should be playable characters in the beginning tutorial. They are searching through the asteroid field of the remains of Malachor V for any sign of what happened to the Exile, maybe about a year after TSL. Bastila feels something in the force and decides to land on a relatively large asteroid, only to be ambushed by Sith Assassins. [ They will not be playable afterwards. ]

You just so happen to be a Jedi Apprentice on the cusp of becoming a Jedi Knight -- the only thing holding you back from becoming one is the lack of your master, Brianna, who has travelled to Coruscant to find out if she was the only one who sensed a distress call from Bastila only a few days ago. [ You are re-united with her eventually in the game. ]

Bao-Dur and T3-M4 are still hard at work on the Telos Restoration Project. HK-47 is in the outlying areas of the system, too, attempting a solo search for the HK-50 factory.

So basically, in this suggestion, the returning characters would be the Handmaiden, Bao-Dur, and the two droids.

The new characters would be Kelborn (I love the idea, he-who-came-up-with-the-idea-earlier-in-this-topic), a male Chadra-Fan mechanic (always in conflict with Bao-Dur), a male Rodian smuggler, a male Twi'lek who supposedly works for the Genohardan, a female human pilot, and a female assassin. All of the characters have the ability to become Jedi, with the exception of those who are already Jedi, the droids, and Kelborn.

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Much longer and in-depth than I was hoping for. o_o

Nice. What creativity. u have an imagination on u.

Vince Trageton
09-10-2005, 06:53 PM
Yeah, rather nice ideas. I especially like the thought of Kelborn and Brianna.

Also, just a thought - an interesting new feature might be romances between npcs, maybe depending on your actions and words.

*Yoinked*
09-10-2005, 07:34 PM
Also, just a thought - an interesting new feature might be romances between npcs, maybe depending on your actions and words.

Teh coolness! Nice idea! Like maybe if you went DS, and turned one of your characters he would get together with the DS lady jedi, as compared to you as LS, with him together with the DS lady jedi, or something like that.

Vince Trageton
09-13-2005, 02:05 PM
taking this even further, such a relationship could spice things up, e.g. jeallousy evolves between you and the character because both of you are after the same person etc.... I sense DS potetial there ....

RobQel-Droma
09-20-2005, 05:34 PM
I think that HK-47 and T3-M3 should be there, KOTOR would not be the same without them, I also think that you should at least have the choice to have a wookie. I also think that you should be able to turn thim to the light side or the dark side. It might be cool if maybe Vima Sunrider (Nomi Sunrider's daughter), would be a main female character, or perhaps even her daughter. After all, Vima was originally going to be the Bastila character but then got removed in KOTOR 1.
I have heard people suggest that Dustin Onasi should be there, and he would be a cool character as a main one, but depending on how you played KOTOR, he might be dead.

Also, just a thought - an interesting new feature might be romances between npcs, maybe depending on your actions and words.

I also like that idea.
Finally, i think you should have a lot of choice as to your characters with a wide assortment of aliens, humans, and others. It also would be cool if you could build your own little droid and have him come along with you autimatically kinda like Bao-Dur and his remote.

ViperSkeele
03-11-2006, 07:56 PM
I desided to start this thread to find out what team members you would like to see. )

I would like to have the blind force sensitive girl from TSL back (I've only played TSL through once and I can't remember their names), but I'd like to have options to the curtain she wears, AND I'm not sure if Darth Nihilus is the cigarette butt looking dude, or the one with the white mask and the brain scrambling voice, but seriously the latter went down too easily in TSL how about resurrecting Darth Whitemask, who rises to become the Dark Lord, lets face it, he is mysterious, his voice sends a shiver up your spine, and he did die WAYYYY to easy, it makes one suspicious, and boy howdy I did like having the force sensitive girl around, she was sultry, unique, obsessed with my PC's force abilities, the perfect Padawan OOO...OOO...OOO, how about she has a special force ability to temporarily broadcast her blindness to your enemies, severely hitting their perception (at least the weaker willed ones)

^^^^
agreed. although i thought that Visas was a bit fleshed out more than the rest of them, besides Kreia, of course.

YES VISAS, Absolutely Visas, she was an excellent character, I posted once but I couldn't remember her name, BUT Kreia....not so much. I thought Bao-Durs arm was cool, I want my next PC to have an electric appendage, but Like I said before I think resurrecting the subordinate Dark Lord, not The ashes one, the mask one, would be very cool, I like the look, especially like the voice, he's tied to the unexplored regions of the galaxy, he's a big mystery, and he could be a harder core badass that Darth Maul or Darth Vader, Now...

Could someone tell me his name? please? Nihilus was the other one wasn't he? (ashes boy?)

And how about the roaming voices of the Jedi Council ie; "Use the Force Luke"

Mandalorian BH
03-11-2006, 08:58 PM
Id like to see a badass rodian on your team.

lightexile
03-12-2006, 12:04 AM
Not a fan of Rodians. They smell.

ViperSkeele
03-12-2006, 09:17 AM
Id like to see a badass rodian on your team.

Yeah, me too, like Twitch on STEROIDS

Mandalorian BH
03-12-2006, 12:40 PM
well Id like to see a rodian join your team or once.a rodian bountyhunter to be exact.maybe a mandalorian too.and a fallen sith.

Diego Varen
03-12-2006, 01:52 PM
Maybe Twitch survived the attack on Taris and became a Bounty Hunter. He could be skilled with both guns and swords.

ViperSkeele
03-14-2006, 03:36 PM
yes absolutely, I wasn't thinking of Twitch specifically, but that makes a great tie in story, imagine training Twitch in the force.....crazy rodian with a lightsaber....(drool)

The Distorted
04-06-2006, 03:40 PM
Personally, I want a smaller total number of party members this time, but each with alot more depth to their personalities (and the potential many ways they react/interact to the situations/circumstances/environments around you and them, and also in their backstories/sidequests, etc).

BUT - I want their to be various potential allies that you get to choose from whilst on your journey that make up your party, so you get a say on who follows you, but it's also realistic in that the relationship can be affected by your actions and treatment of these individuals (a new way of doing the "influence" system) and is therefore dialectical (works both ways, and in some cases may require 'compromises' on either end).
They could leave on their own accord if you treated them too disrespectfully, or you could tell them to "go away" ;) , for example. But if they left (for whatever reason) you could find someone else to 'replace' them, etc.
E.g, in TSL, I really wanted Azkul to join my party. I thought that would be awesome, if you could offer him a new "job" serving by your side (he is a mercenary after all) and you could literally have to pay him, in return for his "services", real business-like.
There could be many different types of reasons for people joining you (not all of them personal), which would create original and dynamic relationships with these people, and many different ways in which they could show 'loyalty' to you, or give reasons why they might leave you, or even betray you (such as receiving a better deal, etc).


And in regards to this idea:

Yeah, me too, like Twitch on STEROIDS

Ai, thirded.

darklord_malak
06-14-2006, 11:52 AM
agreed, but what i want depends on the storyline and what it allows, i want a sith to become a party member.

ViperSkeele
06-14-2006, 01:27 PM
I really wanted Azkul to join my party. I thought that would be awesome, if you could offer him a new "job" serving by your side (he is a mercenary after all) and you could literally have to pay him, in return for his "services", real business-like.
There could be many different types of reasons for people joining you (not all of them personal), which would create original and dynamic relationships with these people, and many different ways in which they could show 'loyalty' to you, or give reasons why they might leave you, or even betray you (such as receiving a better deal, etc).


And in regards to this idea:



Ai, thirded.

OK, good ideas, I think you ought to be able to hire any mercenary (now that you mention it), if you have enough cash and they're willing to do whatever job it is. Different mercenaries could be willing to perform different tasks based on their skills and their good / evil orientation. Someone might not kill for you, but they might steal an upgrade to the Ebon Hawk II for you and / or install it for you, maybe an electronics jammer you can turn on to avoid space combat portions of the game

darklord_malak
06-14-2006, 02:06 PM
i don't know if i like mercenaries that much, i don't like mandalorians either with the exception of mandalore. it would benefit though like in TSL when u have to hunt down jedi masters, when on Nar Shaada a mercenary could help u.

Itchy Tasty
06-14-2006, 02:22 PM
Well first, I'd want Hk-47 and T3-M4. It would not be a KOTOR game without 'em.

Give me a hardcore spacer (Ala Han Solo) who doesn't believe in "hokey religions" and "ancient weapons" when blasters are perfect. There hasn't been one of those yet. Atton and Mira were the closest we've come to that, but there hasn't been a real Han Solo-like character.

Perhaps a Mon Calamari - afterall, we've seen plenty of Quarren but never a Mon Cal. In my opinion, they'd make excellent Jedi.

Other aliens I'd think would be cool: Rodian, Chiss, Kel Dor, Nautolan.

While we're at: Let's throw in a Yuuzhan Vong! [sarcasm]

Browny11uk
06-15-2006, 04:42 PM
Def Tm & HK but Hk shoudl be silver cos i hate the rust on him lol.
I think we shoudl have more jedi party members & some more aliens such as twileks or even one of those really werid freaky ones or one of those big fat slugs lol tht would be so funny this bag fat slug witha lightsaber lol i had a nice little chuckle then lol

Lord_Revan.
06-15-2006, 04:53 PM
Revan, other KOTOR and KOTOR II characters and new ones.

Diego Varen
06-15-2006, 05:00 PM
Revan, other KOTOR and KOTOR II characters and new ones.

Who from KOTOR and TSL?

Calavera
06-16-2006, 03:55 PM
IT whould be Nice to have a character who looked like Yoda...

AristotÚlēsticus
06-16-2006, 03:59 PM
agree with u...Yoda rocks.

Lord Foley
06-16-2006, 11:29 PM
Here are the three that I think are guaranteed to return: Canderous, HK-47, and T3-M4. As for who I would like to see return, I want basically as many characters from the first game as possible. I like the sense of deja vu you get when you are reunited with old companions.

Phaedra36
06-23-2006, 03:10 PM
Well in my opinion, I think Mandalore should not be a party member but finally have in his own army. Let the man actually be able to fulfill his dream and have the Mandalores die gloriously in the final battle.
As for party members I would like to take with me, Bastila, Carth, and Atton. Why? Disciple and Handmaiden are now members of the new Jedi Order. HOWEVER, if I had to take someone it would be Handmaiden instead of Disciple.
The two droids would be a must...
But why Bastila, Carth, and Atton? Bastila because she is a Jedi. She probably has grown up and tone down in her pompous attitude over the years, and she probably has grown quite tired waiting for Revan.
As for Carth, quite the same.
Why Atton? Not only is he much like Han Solo and is clever and funny, he is also a major love interest that did not get to express his true feelings for the female Exile. However even if you play a male exile, he is still a fun and witty companion.

DSharrah
06-23-2006, 04:42 PM
I think that the droids would be appropriate in a third installment. And I think that there is a good opportunity to include character's from the previous games both as "party" and "non-party" characters...Regardless of the way you played TSL, I really like the idea of your party members forming a council of "jedi" (or sith) and having them available to speak to, ask questions, etc. (I know that there is a chance that some of them are dead, if not them all - but if they aren't dead, a great tie in). But I do think that the majority of the PC's should be from a new pool of characters. One thing that I think would be cool, is to have PC's that will join you for specific events - for example:

You land on the Planet of Rakata Prime to utilize the temple's computer. You learn the information that you need to continue your mission and learn you have to go to Planet "x". Upon learning that you will be travelling to Planet "x" a young Rakatan warrior asks if he may accompany you for reasons that are his own (he has a missoin to accomplish there, and needs you to get there). You go to the planet help each other and then he departs (maybe leaves the door open for a later return?).

I think that if the game uses a system like this it gives you more opportunity to actually use all the possible members of your party...I also think more split party missions would be a good way to do this.

Jin805
06-26-2006, 02:16 AM
:snipe1: In KotOR III, I want to go to a planet never seen in any of the movies or games, where you meet new NPCs and get new PC from that planet.

milo
06-26-2006, 02:34 AM
Give me a hardcore spacer (Ala Han Solo) who doesn't believe in "hokey religions" and "ancient weapons" when blasters are perfect. There hasn't been one of those yet. Atton and Mira were the closest we've come to that, but there hasn't been a real Han Solo-like character.Atton was practically a clone of Han Solo. Their appearances are marginally different, and they have the exact same attitude. Unless you want an exact duplicate of Han Solo, that's as close as you're gonna get.
Personally, I thought Atton was a little too much like Han Solo. That's why I liked Mira better.

Prime
06-26-2006, 10:14 AM
Atton was practically a clone of Han Solo. Except that Han >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atton. :)

TKA-001
06-26-2006, 10:34 AM
The only previous members who should return in KOTOR 3 should be HK and T3. The others can get cameos or larger roles, but no place in the party.

HerbieZ
06-26-2006, 01:27 PM
Perhaps a Mon Calamari - afterall, we've seen plenty of Quarren but never a Mon Cal. In my opinion, they'd make excellent Jedi.

[sarcasm]

Dear god yes. Although by this timeline, they were not supposed to be off Dak, neither were Quarren for that matter

Phaedra36
06-26-2006, 03:39 PM
LoL Tka-001, I do not agree. I think they should pull all the characters that meant something (who cares about the Wookies for instance or G0-T0 for instance?), have them be uber henchmen, have a couple of them die (like Mira, Kreia already said she was going to die for ex.), and also have some new characters sprinkled in the mix.
Mandalore definitely should make a CAMEO because let him finally gather up his clan, instead of just following around our lead character. I want to see the Mandalorians at their finest, I want to see them involved in this huge battle that eventually terminates them all (preferably towards the end) but it was glorious and they did their best.

Aimless
06-26-2006, 08:48 PM
I'd like to see Dustil be a party member. I liked his chacter and really thought he'd join your party in KOTOR 1. He could be like " my father sent me to help look for his "friend"" Or if you play as Revan " Im here on orders from my father. " or something like that. I also want mission to return. the TSL chacters were indeed bland due to the damn infulence but I think Atton and Visa had the best backstory. I mean you could never guess Atton used to kill Jedi. Those are the only two who I'd like to come back. Oh and of course Hk-47 and T3

milo
06-26-2006, 08:55 PM
Except that Han >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atton. :)
Very true.
I'd like to see Dustil be a party member.
Actually, that's not a bad idea. It'd be kind of cool to see a character who played a very minor role in one of the games return. And welcome to the forums. :)