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DarthMaulUK
08-23-2005, 05:57 PM
Having seen the latest screens from the Liepzig Convention (http://www.empireatwar.net/fall2005/gallery/liepzig/index.htm) , you can see the some of the ships are covered in a blue colour.

This could be for multiplayer or a chosen marking for your particular group. We havent seen them before until now and it made some of the ships look unrealistic.

Whats your views? Im thinking that they might need to change this to a more combat friendly colour.

DMUK

Lex
08-23-2005, 06:09 PM
I agree for sure, I'd rather have them marked with a small rebel or imperial sign above them instead of this?

general ackbar
08-23-2005, 06:12 PM
definatly agree with you. i was thinkin the same thing but i didnt say anything haha! hopefully you will be able to choose colors at least, or turn off the color option all together.

starmark2k
08-24-2005, 04:48 AM
If the multiplayer is a max of two then you don't need colors but when you get 3 or more they are needed otherwise it could lead to confusion

DoctorNerve
08-24-2005, 07:33 PM
Classic argument. house color is annoying but unavoidable. artists everywhere who want a realistic piece of art cringe when they hear "housecolor." necessary evil and one that isn't going to change.

I always wanted to see a glow around the base of a vehicle or character but I never see it happen.

general ackbar
08-24-2005, 07:47 PM
Classic argument. house color is annoying but unavoidable. artists everywhere who want a realistic piece of art cringe when they hear "housecolor." necessary evil and one that isn't going to change.

I always wanted to see a glow around the base of a vehicle or character but I never see it happen.


thats a pretty good idea.

Edan
08-25-2005, 02:12 PM
Definitely way too much team color, Petro really overdid it. If you look carefully you'll see that they made the TIE Fighter wings completely the team color... it's a bit overkill.

DoctorNerve
08-25-2005, 08:01 PM
They seem rather small in the shots I saw so more color might not be a bad thing considering their scale. Now a Star Destroyer with huge bands of color might be a bad move... hehe.

BeBop
08-25-2005, 08:45 PM
To me the troopers and the AT-AT's seem alright. Most of the walkers in general. The speeders and rebel missile... things, seem like it's far too emphasized myself. The shots in space ar too fuzzy or are just coming up with Document not found to tell. The ties aren't looking tops though. The best way to deal with Team colors in my opinion is either put them in place of already existing designs on the ship (For instance, for a venator destroyer, they could only change the color of the center stripe.) or else add LITTLE markings on the sides or somewhere where it would make sense. Or my personal favorite... custom Badges.

Garbageben
08-25-2005, 09:16 PM
The custom badge/patch idea is neat in my opinion, but I doubt it will happen. The ship that the coloring looks worst on is the mon-cal. It looks like a paint bomb blew up close to it.

general ackbar
08-25-2005, 09:37 PM
The custom badge/patch idea is neat in my opinion, but I doubt it will happen. The ship that the coloring looks worst on is the mon-cal. It looks like a paint bomb blew up close to it.


yea i thought the same thing

Juggernaut1985
08-25-2005, 10:51 PM
I'm going to scale back team color in my mod.

Dagobahn Eagle
08-27-2005, 01:19 PM
[It's a] necessary evil and one that isn't going to change.
Aw, come on! Haven't you played Rome: Total War or Ground Control?! What ignorants patrol these forums these days:p!

How hard is it to tell that these Crayven Inc. units belong to the Green team?
http://www.4gamer.net/patch/demo/gc/001.jpg

Or that these hoplites belong to the "White Team" (and just to make it clear, uniform colour in R: TW is not team-specific):
http://www.counterfrag.com/screenshots/rome%20total%20war/wallpaper/rome_2_1280x1024.jpg

I could go on and mention Homeworld and Dawn of War and a good deal of other titles, but you get my point.

I mean, have some imagination. Everyone on the Web nowadays act like it's "smear the units with colour or have them be completely identical so that you can't tell the difference in any way whatsoever. There's absolutely no alternative solution whatsoever!!!111". Gimme a break.

Bottom line: Give me team markers hovering over the units any damned day. That looks so horribly cartoonish that it's scary. George Lucas himself said that the very concept of the Rebels and Imperials is that the Empire is colour-less and the rebels are colourful. Think of it, it's the grey TIEs, white storm troopers, grey Death Star and Star Destroyers. Everything is just one or two monotone, evil colours. And now they're smearing blue lines all over the storm troopers? No thanks.

At least I hope we can change the colours freely, as was said, so that I can set the Empire to be gray or white or something, and so on.

The graphics look awesome overall, though, except from the fact that those health bars are way overblown. Same with that circle around the selected units.

I'm going to scale back team color in my mod.
Kudos to you.

BeBop
08-27-2005, 03:55 PM
Maybe when you play as the Empire you can be the Gray Team. I guess... And yeah, homeworld and Rome were excellent about team defining.

popcorn2008
08-27-2005, 03:57 PM
They need an option to turn off team color so you can get a realistic feel, that would be cool. Because you could look at your radar to tell whos who if you really needed to. The star destroyers are super over kill all they need is a small line or something.

lukeiamyourdad
08-28-2005, 05:22 PM
Or that these hoplites belong to the "White Team" (and just to make it clear, uniform colour in R: TW is not team-specific):
http://www.counterfrag.com/screenshots/rome%20total%20war/wallpaper/rome_2_1280x1024.jpg



Err...where do you see hoplites in that screenshot?

DK_Viceroy
09-13-2005, 04:46 PM
Maybe he means the Sacred Band or perhaps the Poeni Infantry lieing dead underfoot, either way no hoplites in that screenie looks more like DE getting PWNED. :D

lukeiamyourdad
09-13-2005, 10:22 PM
Uh no...There's no dead poeni. They're all alive on the screenshot. At least that's what we can see.

There's also no Sacred Band infantry here.

Only Poeni and skirmishers.

DK_Viceroy
09-14-2005, 06:44 AM
My Mistake Dead Iberian Infantry under the horses and there are indded Sacred Band Infantry there can't you see their large round gold sheilds?, they could be Poeni though

Sithmaster_821
09-14-2005, 10:08 AM
If the fighters are so small that color markings are indistiguishable, then I don't mind if they are tinted one color or another. I think basic principles of a game, like distinguishing my units from yours, comes before any notion of Star Wars feel.

That said, DE's comprimise suggestion seems to fit very well here (atleast for space battles).

lukeiamyourdad
09-14-2005, 11:15 PM
can't you see their large round gold sheilds?, they could be Poeni though

I don't see any Sacred Band Infantry. They're probably Poeni.

DK_Viceroy
09-15-2005, 11:41 AM
Your forgetting the Long Sheild Cavalry as well :P

lukeiamyourdad
09-15-2005, 04:28 PM
We're talking about Infantry.

Nobody ever mentionned anything about cavalry.

Pho3nix
09-15-2005, 06:01 PM
Agreed.

Dagobahn Eagle
09-16-2005, 06:36 AM
Er, luke? Viceroy? Off-topic:p?

On-topic: What the Heck, let's just wait for the game to come out and then make a modification that "fixes" the team markings.

FroZticles
09-16-2005, 11:14 AM
Pfft why wait I could probably write up some patch notes right now.

DK_Viceroy
09-16-2005, 05:16 PM
DE you forget the GB section or may not have seen it we never stay on topic lol.