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access_flux
09-05-2005, 11:16 AM
Read this, and then watch the videos. (http://www.hiphopmusic.com/archives/001133.html)



oh my god.

Pie™
09-05-2005, 11:23 AM
Saw the video yesterday... Pretty.. uh.. Brave?

access_flux
09-05-2005, 11:25 AM
i laughed so hard when i saw that. that took HUGE balls.

Mike Windu
09-05-2005, 11:53 AM
Jesus walks with him.

Bob Lion54
09-05-2005, 11:55 AM
OMG!!!
Mike Myers was like "WTF!!" He looked like he didn't know what to say. I love his reactions. Especially right after "George Bush dosen't care about black people." OMG!!

And Chris Tucker..... I don't know if he could hear what Kanye West was saying, but it looked like he didn't know how to react for a second.

Tyrion
09-05-2005, 11:56 AM
West got a few more points in my book, although I really don't think Bush doesn't care about black people, considering he had pleaded with the New Orleans mayor a few days before the hurricane to put up a mandatory evacuation.

CapNColostomy
09-05-2005, 12:24 PM
"zOMG FIGHT THE POWER!!!" I'm sorry, but is this something new? A black guy saying white politicians, in particular the president, are racist? He's probably right. But news? Or controversial? Hardly. I don't even know who this guy is. Have a seat Malcom Farrakhan.

Darth Groovy
09-05-2005, 12:32 PM
http://www.themanipulation.com/images/seatbelts.jpg

Pie™
09-05-2005, 12:39 PM
"zOMG FIGHT THE POWER!!!" I'm sorry, but is this something new? A black guy saying white politicians, in particular the president, are racist? He's probably right. But news? Or controversial? Hardly. I don't even know who this guy is. Have a seat Malcom Farrakhan.
http://www.home.no/c0licab/captain.jpg

I think it's more a case of how bluntly he said it, and the circumstances he said it under.

CapNColostomy
09-05-2005, 02:12 PM
http://www.home.no/c0licab/captain.jpg

I think it's more a case of how bluntly he said it, and the circumstances he said it under.

As apposed to what? Mentioning it on a ferris wheel? That doesn't even makes sense. I know what the circumstances are, and how bluntly it was said, so what's your point? Speaking of Captian Obvious...

Pie™
09-05-2005, 02:18 PM
As apposed to what? Mentioning it on a ferris wheel? That doesn't even makes sense. I know what the circumstances are, and how bluntly it was said, so what's your point? Speaking of Captian Obvious...
Live television during a fundraiser campaign for hurricane victims... Yeah, I can't see how that differs from a ferris wheel.

TiE23
09-05-2005, 02:32 PM
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Kain
09-05-2005, 02:35 PM
I'm sorry, but I can only say "HA!!!" Go Kanye!

Mike Myer's face = Priceless

CapNColostomy
09-05-2005, 02:41 PM
Live television during a fundraiser campaign for hurricane victims... Yeah, I can't see how that differs from a ferris wheel.

Really? Because I can. And that's my point. You're saying it's because of where and when he said it. That's why it's a big deal. And I'm saying I ****ing know where and when he said it, and it's still nothing amazing. BFD.

TiE23
09-05-2005, 02:45 PM
Yah, you can say that Bush doesnt care about black people to anyone you know, but if you say it over national TV with over a million watching, then it becomes a problem, he's ruined.
I've never even heard of him and now that statement is the only thing I know him by. >_>

Kain
09-05-2005, 03:05 PM
Didn't the Dixie Chicks bad mouth Bush on national TV? When was the last you heard of them?

CapNColostomy
09-05-2005, 03:11 PM
Maybe I should elaborate a little further, because there seems to be a misunderstanding of my point. This dude, whoever the hell he is, isn't saying anything I haven't heard a dozen times over on any given Public Enemy record. And that's just for starters. The stupidest thing about this, is the fact that he's going on TV to express his personal political opinions while simultaniously asking for money. Did it not occur to this guy that some of the people who are going to consider donating might be Bush voters? We have people in this country who right or wrong (more often that not, wrong) are going to back anything the president says or does. And anyone who criticises the president, is wrong. So maybe, getting on tv and running your gums to that audience is a matter of poor decision making, bad judgement, and worse timing. I looked this guy up, and he's a musician of sorts. He coudn't save that **** for his albums or shows? Everyone knows that it's mostly suburban white males that buy rap/rnb albums, so he'd still be telling that crap to people he assumes don't already know it, only he might actually MAKE money that way. At the link above, there are people that actually say they aren't going to donate based on his comments. So yeah, WAY TO GO KAYNE WEST! YOU GO BOY!!!

Kain
09-05-2005, 03:26 PM
Ah but you see CapN, Bush has the 'Bad mouth me is proffessional suicide' thing going. This is because people either hate Bush or are completly loyal and follow him simply because of his 9/11 made my career bs and think he is the greatest President BECAUSE of that. Thus speaking out against him on a national level like that is either highly praised or highly condemned. Kanye may have commited career suicide with that comment(simply because his right wing fans[if any] are going to quit buying his records, thus causing a heavy loss in sales), but for people who fanatically despise Bush its an awesome comment.

Fanatically not being the best word, I just don't have the time to find a better word:p

TiE23
09-05-2005, 04:46 PM
Yah, Bush goes through 9/11 and starts a war that no one wants anymore. Try ending slavery like Lincoln bitch! >__>

Acrylic
09-05-2005, 06:47 PM
Gosh, that made me mad when I heard that he said that.

But, I hate it how he blamed things being because of his race. Don't you think that's somewhat a form of racism in it self? If race honestly shouldn't phase anyone, then WHY DID HE BRING IT UP?

It's not as if there were only black people in New Orleans and surrounding areas. I mean, the majority of them were, but I saw people of all color.

I dislike Bush as much as the next man, but I just thought that what Kanye said was definitely uncalled for.

This is all of course, my opinion.

Tyrion
09-05-2005, 06:54 PM
Gosh, that made me mad when I heard that he said that.

But, I hate it how he blamed things being because of his race. Don't you think that's somewhat a form of racism in it self? If race honestly shouldn't phase anyone, then WHY DID HE BRING IT UP?

It's not as if there were only black people in New Orleans and surrounding areas. I mean, the majority of them were, but I saw people of all color.

I dislike Bush as much as the next man, but I just thought that what Kanye said was definitely uncalled for.

This is all of course, my opinion.

When a disaster like this comes calling, it's probably best to do what you can and not point fingers. While it took West some luck in saying what he felt, I don't think it'll do much to help those trapped in New Orleans.

El Sitherino
09-05-2005, 07:07 PM
Truth be told Bush is ON RECORD for saying he dislikes black people. You can look it up at your library. Records section and such.

SeleneRayne
09-05-2005, 07:13 PM
Mike Meyers looked terrified. He gave a look like, "What did you say?!"

RoxStar
09-05-2005, 10:45 PM
Truth be told Bush is ON RECORD for saying he dislikes black people. You can look it up at your library. Records section and such.

Really? Where could I find this? In the incriminating quotes section :p?

Kain
09-06-2005, 01:45 AM
Really? Where could I find this? In the incriminating quotes section :p?

That ones my favorite.:D

toms
09-06-2005, 08:29 AM
kanye is (http://50.lycos.com/083005.asp)

Last week, Kanye West (pronounced Kahn-yay) graced the cover of Time Magazine, which wrote, "...One of the better sounding rap records in history...widely expected to be the biggest-selling record of the year."

I doubt it will be the career suicide that happened to a few actors/actresses/bands who dared criticise Bush after 9/11... Bush had really high popularity back then, now he has lower approval ratings than Nixon after watergate. Also, unlike the Dixie Chicks I suspect his main fan base is mainly composed of people who aren't that pro-bush anyway.
Though part of his appeal was supposed to be that he was a rap star who appealed to mainstream america, so he may have damaged that.
And i guess he does have a lot of christian references in his lyrics, and Bush has kind of become the official US leader of Christianity...

The main problem people like the dixie chisks had wasn't exactly that people stopped buying their records, it was that the major radio chains who wanted to be in good with the administration and cash in on the ultra-patriotism wave at the time refused to play them.

I still don't think its selfish... its just as likely to harm him as help him, and he clearly meant what he said, whether you agree with it or not.

The annarchist part of me always loves it when someone takes advantage of live TV do do something unexpected or anti-establishment. THough it does often backfire by causing a backlash against them.
Shame most of the first outburst was a bit inchomprehensible really, but the "George Bush does not care about black people" bt was gold. Though its understandable, I doubt he has ever met any, and i doubt he has a clue about the real life issues that poor people of any race face.... but then thats what you get when you always elect your presidents from a tiny ruling elite of rich families.

CapNColostomy
09-06-2005, 10:22 AM
I still don't think its selfish... its just as likely to harm him as help him, and he clearly meant what he said, whether you agree with it or not.

Of course it was selfish. I do agree with him. But the objective of the telethon was to raise money for hurricane victims, not to give him a free public sounding board from which to voice his no-duh-opinion. Whether it helped him or harms him is beside the point. The only people who might suffer because of his comments are the survivors in the south who are suffering anyway. You know, those black people he claims to care so much about? His comments can only help him, as nobody I know even had any idea who the hell he even was until he said what said. Now all anyone can talk about is "zOMG, did you s4e Mike Myers! Priceless HAHAHAW!11" because it IS funny. But it was also pretty ****ing selfish and stupid to take a chance on causing people to reconsider donating just because you want to prove how kvlt you are by standing up to the man.

toms
09-06-2005, 11:37 AM
THe fact of you not knowing who he is doesn't really make much difference, as he is obviously pretty famous if he was invited to be on it in the first place. If you don't know him then his comments make no difference, if you do know him then you probably agree with him so they do no harm.

CapNColostomy
09-06-2005, 12:42 PM
Yes, making personal political opinionated comments that could potentially make people decide not to donate to the Red Cross "make no difference". Someone should beat that guys ass. And his Pedo Bear too.

El Sitherino
09-06-2005, 12:54 PM
Woah woah woah, everyone chill out. Take a drink, have a smoke, whatever.

Kain
09-06-2005, 03:17 PM
Yes yes. Let us all laugh at the fact that they cut away in a mad panic and didn't tell them, thus Mike Myers was speaking with Chris Tucker's body:p

TK-8252
09-06-2005, 04:21 PM
He doesn't care about white people either...

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access_flux
09-06-2005, 10:45 PM
we can debate this, forever, but it won't change the fact that he said it.

it took huge balls, and he probably didn't think about the consequences, but still.

its still pretty funny/crazy/interesting, but its not worth bickering over.

El Sitherino
09-06-2005, 10:58 PM
Indeed, arguing will only get the thread locked with a humorous closing picture posted.

access_flux
09-06-2005, 11:04 PM
maybe i should argue some more, just to see the humorous closing picture? :P

CapNColostomy
09-06-2005, 11:34 PM
I wanna see the humorous pic, myself. So let me continue by saying it didn't take any balls at all. What did he personally stand to lose? Nothing. It wasn't his ass up to his waist in raw sewage and the bloated corpses of his friends, neighbors, loved ones, rival gang members, etc... For real, I think it would rule to take that pedo bear mascot of his by the legs, and beat that Kanye dudes ass half to death with it while asking people to donate money to the Red Cross on a televised charity event. That would take balls. And Herculian strength.

You think it takes balls to go on tv and say the president doesn't care about black people? Why? People have been saying that **** on tv, radio, newspaper, and countless other formats for years. Some of them actually faced real physical danger when they'd speak out against the government. This dude is a moron, and in no way comparable to the forefathers of the civil rights movement at all. If he cares so gawdamn much, why was he on tv using his bottom lip to beat the **** out of the top one, and not in NOLA trying to do something to help those people? I'll tell you why. Because he's full of ****, and he doesn't care about black people. He cares about making "holy-****ing-geez-did-he-just-say-that?!" comments to generate free publicity and hopefully sell a few more of his lame ass records to people.

I gave up on trying to count the number of people who've said basically "I was going to donate, but Kanyes comments pissed me off". Sucks that one guys comments can affect people in such a negative way, but that's the power and price of being a celebrity in this country.

TiE23
09-07-2005, 12:01 AM
Its freedom of speech as long as it isnt slander or offensive Capn. Kinda like what Mike Moore did. But we half expected he would open his err... cheeks to say something against Bush. Yah, Katrina sucks, Bush isnt exactly the best president ever. But what ever. Its teh life.

CapNColostomy
09-07-2005, 12:13 AM
Its freedom of speech as long as it isnt slander or offensive Capn. Kinda like what Mike Moore did. But we half expected he would open his err... cheeks to say something against Bush. Yah, Katrina sucks, Bush isnt exactly the best president ever. But what ever. Its teh life.

Yes, I understand the concept of freedom of speech, which is why I didn't say he shouldn't be allowed to say it, just that he should've chosen a more appropriate time and or place to say it.

El Sitherino
09-07-2005, 12:20 AM
Indeed, and in order to avoid furtherment of argueing.

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