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Thaeos
09-20-2005, 04:24 PM
So I started a new game, this time being dark side female because I've never done that before, and decided to kill Juhani at the grove, which I've never done before. Just wondering what changes this makes to the game, if any, apart from the fact that she isn't in my party, being dead and all.

I read something about her friend from the jedi enclave wanting to kill you on Korriban, but does anything else happen? I don't suppose there's someone else I can recruit instead of her ... ?

Bastila
09-20-2005, 04:41 PM
Nothing different happens at all really, what you said about Korriban happens, but i think thats kinda a spolier so next time put it in spolier form.

And welcome to LF and have fun!

Thaeos
09-21-2005, 07:17 AM
Ah okay ... well thanks.

Star Wars is cool ...

DarthVandar205
09-21-2005, 05:20 PM
Yah Belaya leaves Dantooine and shows up with a couple sith students at the Sith Academy on Koriban outside near the valley of Dark Lords and tries to kill you if youve killed Juhani in the grove.


Besides that though, the only thing different in the game is that you have one less party member. If youre gonna stay Dark side then


You kill Juhani and Jolee later anyways.


but if you go light side or even if youre dark side through most of the game just use Bastila *and Jolee later when you get him* and then when Bastila is not available to the party just use Jolee. He is just as good as Juhani but is more force power oreinted than lightsaber. You can upgrade some of his abilities though so he can fight really good. Otherwise nothing else in the game changes, besides not being able to use Juhani's side quest. You get her lightsaber either way.

DarthVandar205
09-21-2005, 05:27 PM
I would keep Juhani alive in the game even if you wanna go DS because she is a valuable ally and you get alot of experience for having kept her alive. Also she has a detailed sidequest.


If you talk to Juhani enough then eventually when youre at a spaceport, usually manaan you run into this guy named Xor who wanted to buy Juhani as a slave when she was younger but the jedi beat him to it and he was denied being able to buy her and wants to now. You can either keep Juhani from fighting him or let her go to the dark side. Xor leaves the first time and comes back later with some thugs and you can chose either the light/dark side options again, either way Juhani will choose to stay in the light and will kill xor and he will pester her some more before he dies but he wont turn her even if you try to convince her to let in her dark side emotions


She has a neat stealth ability which you can really utilize later too.


Darksiders can kill her and Jolee on top of the Temple of the Ancients later, which it doesnt matter at that point because you already have Bastila on your side and your character is powered up enough to make it through the rest of the game without either of them. This is the best time to kill her unless youre going LS.

Thaeos
09-21-2005, 11:39 PM
Yeah it kinda annoyed me that I couldn't make her actually darkside when that stuff happens, just like it annoyed me a bit when Carth ran away at the end ... damn I wanted to fry that bastard :D

DarthVandar205
09-22-2005, 08:15 PM
I just find it odd that Juhani gets so angry but yet is somehow able to keep herself from going over that line into actually going to the dark side and killing people. Especially considering the state she is in when you first find her and how easily it seemed she ended up that way. The situations she gets into later are just as bad if not worse than the one who got her in trouble in the first place. So I just dont understand how shes able to keep her cool, especially when youre trying to be DS and actually encourage her to do DS things.

RaV™
09-22-2005, 08:36 PM
Well I don't exactly know how to do spoiler so i'm warning everyone that reads this that there are spoilers ahead..

If, you become LS and stay on that side, and talk to Juhani alot she'll fall in love with you I suppose (saw a clip of this situation on some gamer channel.)

And you can actually kill Carth, but it takes a while to get into the part of having the choose to kill Carth..just stay on his bad side..

RedHawke
09-23-2005, 12:32 AM
If, you become LS and stay on that side, and talk to Juhani alot she'll fall in love with you I suppose (saw a clip of this situation on some gamer channel.)
You have to be supportive of her, and you have to complete her sidequest, and you have to have a LS Female PC...

And you can actually kill Carth, but it takes a while to get into the part of having the choose to kill Carth..just stay on his bad side..
You have to be a Female PC and have romanced Carth sucsessfully, and then choose the DS path with Bastila on the temple summit, to get the opportunity to slay him on the Star Forge...
;)

The Doctor
09-24-2005, 01:26 PM
You never actually get the choice to kill Carth, you have to do it if you followed the romance side-quest. Bastila tells you to do it and you obey her like a little b***h. There is a mod that unlocks a disabled part of the game, where you can be redeemed by him after defeating Malak, then you kill Bastila I think. You can look for it at www.pcgamemods.com
Killing Juhani isn't really that great. It's better to leave her alive.

Hallucination
10-16-2005, 09:30 PM
Yeah if you leave Juhani alive you get that cool red knight robe....and thats always fun.

Vibro
10-17-2005, 07:10 AM
I never really use her but she's quite useful I suppose - Even if you're DS you may aswell save her.

Venom750
10-17-2005, 09:38 AM
If you build her two hand weapon fighting up and equip her with a double bladed lightsaber she becomes a killing machine

DarthVandar205
10-17-2005, 09:59 PM
If you kill Juhani in the grove then you cant do the sidequest with Xor too.

Prodigy.NL
10-18-2005, 08:26 AM
You never actually get the choice to kill Carth, you have to do it if you followed the romance side-quest. Bastila tells you to do it and you obey her like a little b***h. There is a mod that unlocks a disabled part of the game, where you can be redeemed by him after defeating Malak, then you kill Bastila I think. You can look for it at www.pcgamemods.com

could you give some more info about this mod?
its hard to search this way

thank you

Prod

The Doctor
10-18-2005, 08:08 PM
I'm not sure where I got the mod, but I think it was done by RedHawke, but don't quote me on that. If I remember where I got it, I'll PM you.

Prodigy.NL
10-19-2005, 03:33 AM
in an other tread here i found this mod
http://www.pcgamemods.com/mod/16340.html

i think you ment this one?

The Doctor
10-19-2005, 04:06 PM
I can't get your link to open, but RedHawke's is right here:
http://www.citlink.net/~redhawke/
You can get all of RedHawke's mods there.