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Hermie
09-27-2005, 02:53 AM
liek hOMG! (http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/653/653818p1.html)

Kain
09-27-2005, 03:19 AM
Uh...Brock...Venom...Eric?
WTFHIGOHGD?!?!
I realize computer animation has come a long long long way but how in the blue balls of Hell do they even plan on attempting to try such a feat?

Lightsaberboy
09-27-2005, 03:42 AM
there have been so many different rumors out about what the villans were gonna be. what if this is some ploy to keep us on our toes and guess even more?? O_O

Pie™
09-27-2005, 04:09 AM
*Sees the title of the page linked to and giggles*

That's cool I guess, I never watched Spidey 2...

Jan Gaarni
09-27-2005, 04:16 AM
I don't know, the end of 2 suggests Osborne loosing it completelly in the next film.

And maybe he still will. Or maybe there are more spiderman movies planed.

Sivy
09-27-2005, 04:50 AM
I don't know, the end of 2 suggests Osborne loosing it completelly in the next film.

And maybe he still will. Or maybe there are more spiderman movies planed.

i think they plan on doing 5.


i hope what she said is true, venom is cool.

abespam
09-27-2005, 05:05 AM
venom = best spidey villain

however topher grace has the wrong build for venom.. meh we'll wait and see

lassev
09-27-2005, 06:02 AM
Although Venom indeed was very cool in the comic, it remains to be seen how they will adapt the character in the movie. It has been many many years since I read the comics, but if I don't remember totally wrong, the whole Venom affair was a pretty long one. I wonder how they will compress it into one movie.

CapNColostomy
09-27-2005, 06:07 AM
It began with Secret Wars, and Spidey getting the alien symbiote suit from the Beyonder if I remember right. They're gonna **** this up trying to put it in one movie.

El Sitherino
09-27-2005, 06:29 AM
... I just can't imagine Venom being done in a PG-13 movie. A lot of the Venom line, if I remember right, was pretty dark in comparison to the rest of the series.

But yeah, they'll have to do more than this one film to properly do the storyline. There's no way they can fit all the information in one movie without it going over 3 hours.

Mike Windu
09-27-2005, 07:17 AM
Yeah this is definitely going to be hard to do. Venom is my favorite Spidey villain, but there's too much stuff interlinking with Venom and Spidey to get into one movie :p

I think if they made it to where Parker gets the suit and gets rid of it in one movie, then Venom actually being revealed in the 4th movie (if they are doing a 4th...)

Might work better *shrugs*

Zappa_0
09-27-2005, 07:53 AM
Well they have reported that Topher has been bulking up alot lately. Also the other rumor is that HobGoblin will be in the film. Venom can easily be done in todays special effects. I expect the movie to be very good.

El Sitherino
09-27-2005, 08:10 AM
Well they have reported that Topher has been bulking up alot lately.
Yes, yes he has.

I think my biggest concern is that if they make one after this, how are they going to work with Carnage? They'd definitely have to go above the pg-13 rating for him.

Sivy
09-27-2005, 09:02 AM
in the cartoon the symbiote was bought back from space by JJ's son (who was in spider-man 2) i think they're more likely to do something like that.

ChAiNz.2da
09-27-2005, 01:33 PM
It began with Secret Wars, and Spidey getting the alien symbiote suit from the Beyonder if I remember right. They're gonna **** this up trying to put it in one movie.
AMEN!

It's far too early, and waaay off the 'real' storyline to incorporate Venom. I would've gone with The Lizard (Dr. Connors has already been mentioned in both movies), The Hobgoblin (Harry's alter-"I hate my dad and Spider-Man" ego) and if they really need a 3rd villain.. go with someone like The Shocker (though The Sandman is just as feasible)... [/end soapbox rant]

I've also heard rumors that Dunst doesn't want to do anymore movies after the 3rd.. can anyone confirm (or rather abolish this myth.. hehehe)? :confused:

Lightsaberboy
09-27-2005, 03:31 PM
i dunno about the film. having 2 villans might be too much. what if it turns into something like batman returns? well, that was a good movie, but tehy spent too much time focusing on penguin and catwoman in that movie rather than bruce wayne.

anyways i heard danny elfman wasnt scoring spider-3, so it won't be the same. :(

El Sitherino
09-27-2005, 03:47 PM
i dunno about the film. having 2 villans might be too much. what if it turns into something like batman returns? well, that was a good movie, but tehy spent too much time focusing on penguin and catwoman in that movie rather than bruce wayne.

Well that was a problem with all the Batman films until Begins.

anyways i heard danny elfman wasnt scoring spider-3, so it won't be the same. :( :( That sucks.

Zappa_0
09-27-2005, 05:51 PM
Harry is not the Hob Goblin, he is someone else. Harry will take up the Green Goblin as his father was. Dunst has said that but would be crazy to do. As for the whole Venom thing they can have rhyno and shocker in the movie aswell. I think we will be even seeing the King Pin aswell in the third movie. I hope they use the Dare Devil King Pin if they use him in the movie. Also the Lizard could be appart of three aswell, since it involves Brock trying to prove conners is the lizard. They dont even have a script finished yet. Im sure we will hear alot more when the script is finished. Also Elfman is not doing the score for S3, dont know why but that was announced awhile back.

SeleneRayne
09-27-2005, 06:23 PM
I've also heard rumors that Dunst doesn't want to do anymore movies after the 3rd.. can anyone confirm (or rather abolish this myth.. hehehe)? :confused:


I only heard rumors about she was thinking about not doing Spidey 2 because she thought all the stunts and stuff was too dangerous, but turns out thats wrong. I dunno...

jokemaster
09-27-2005, 06:32 PM
Anyone else wondering what they're gonna do to Dunst for spilling the beans?

Agen
09-27-2005, 06:44 PM
I've no idea how they're gonna implement that into a movie (if it is to be faithful to the magazines...).

Jeff
09-27-2005, 06:49 PM
I'm kind of glad that it's Venom and not green gobbo 2, since that forces them to make more movies. I while ago I had heard they were only doing 3, but sounds like that can't be possible now.

El Sitherino
09-27-2005, 07:03 PM
Anyone else wondering what they're gonna do to Dunst for spilling the beans?
I have a few theories of my own, but most are inappropriate.

Yeah, a while back Raimi was talking about how they were only going to do 3. Considering the news and everything, I doubt that'll be possible.

jokemaster
09-27-2005, 07:05 PM
I thought Raimi had said that HE was only going to do three. If that's true they'll probably change director. If there's one thing you can trust a studio to do is milk a franchise to death.

El Sitherino
09-27-2005, 07:14 PM
I thought Raimi had said that HE was only going to do three. If that's true they'll probably change director. If there's one thing you can trust a studio to do is milk a franchise to death.
Spiderman 13: Return of The Radioactive Spider!

shukrallah
09-27-2005, 10:36 PM
Im psyked that Venom is the Character, but in previous interview Raimi said he doesn't like Venom. Plus... well... this rumour has been going on since SpiderMan1! Venom rocks, yes, but I have to wonder if Dunst just said that... :-\

I mean, it was crazy, one of the last scenes was Harry discovering the Green Goblin... and now venom?

If so, Venom may not die... or be defeated, but could return in another film. As for SandMan... I'm not familiar with him.

But yeah, in the old cartoon John went to space, grabbed the symbiot accidentally, crashed the shuttle into the hudson river, then Spidey came to save him and the crewe. Spidey then got covered in the symbiot... eventually spidey rejected it cause it was taking control of his brain, and it covered Eddy Brock after a long fight with Shocker...

Eddy was also mentioned in the last film.

DarkStarMojo
09-27-2005, 11:01 PM
Hmm. I'm very suspect about this information being leaked. If it didn't come from Kirsten Dunst or someone else who was "in the know" I'd say it was utter rubbish. It might still be. Anyways, Sandman makes perfect sense since both Raimi and Toby are big fans of him. Venom, not so much, unless they've completely written the character to be spidey's rival - basically the same kind of guy: a bit nerdy, works for the newspaper, but is a jerk instead of being nice. Still, Raimi was utterly opposed to Venom being in the movies, at least up until now. :eyeraise:

shukrallah
09-27-2005, 11:13 PM
Exactly my point. Although, I would still like Venom to be the bad guy.

DarkStarMojo
09-27-2005, 11:16 PM
Yeah, if they do it right I won't have any objections.

acdcfanbill
09-29-2005, 03:31 AM
the main actors and raimi are only contracted to do 3. dunst, i hear, didnt wanna do any after the first one, but was contractually obligated to do them. dunno how raimi and maguire feel.

Zappa_0
09-29-2005, 05:44 AM
Now she is telling MTV Two and a half villians.

"I think we have ... I'm going to say two and a half bad guys," the "Elizabethtown" star said. "Because I think one of them is resurrected. But yeah, two and a half bad guys, I think, about in this movie.

She is referring to Thomas Haden Church playing Sandman and Topher Grace playing Venom in the film, with the identity of the "half" villain unknown at this time, but it could possibly be Harry Osborn turning into Green Goblin II or Hobgoblin.

Hermie
09-29-2005, 10:19 AM
The half could also be the Lizard...

DarkStarMojo
09-29-2005, 10:21 AM
Sounds like she's repeating fan rumors. Either that means the fans were right or she's just confused. :nut:

Bastila
09-29-2005, 10:47 AM
I reas this and i am happy they are going to use Venom his the best villian

shukrallah
09-30-2005, 08:27 PM
The half could be venom, because technically, he is two seperate beings, Venom and Eddy.


But--- who is this eddy brock: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0333410/ The dude looks kinda small.

Some more info includes: Conners will be in it, and Betty Brant. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413300/fullcredits

CapNColostomy
09-30-2005, 08:56 PM
Too bad they killed Doc Oc already. If they really wanted to totally **** off as far as continuity goes, and put in an assload of villains, they could've used the Sinister Syndicate.

On a side note, I think it would be hard to pull off as far as budget and Hollywood ego's are concerned, but they should look into doing a Secret Wars or Infinity Gauntlet type of story. It would take more than one movie to do, but man would that kick ass.

shukrallah
09-30-2005, 08:58 PM
Wasn't Oc part of that group?

EDIT: Actually, now that I think of it, since they are adding that Betty girl (don't remember who she is!) maybe MJ Will die or move away or something... cause Dunst doesn't want to be in it. Yeah... maybe Venom will kill her... IDK.

Most likley, Spidey will have many movies. That and Xmen are the main comic movies that continue to be popular, and are actually good.

CapNColostomy
09-30-2005, 08:59 PM
Wasn't Oc part of that group?

Yeah, that's why I made the first part of that post the way I did. ;)

Hermie
09-30-2005, 09:13 PM
EDIT: Actually, now that I think of it, since they are adding that Betty girl (don't remember who she is!) maybe MJ Will die or move away or something... cause Dunst doesn't want to be in it. Yeah... maybe Venom will kill her... IDK.
They aren't adding her, Betty Brant is JJJ's secretary. ;)

shukrallah
09-30-2005, 10:14 PM
Oh... yeah... now I remember that, with the short brown hair. Well, then, my idea just died :D

ChAiNz.2da
09-30-2005, 10:18 PM
They aren't adding her, Betty Brant is JJJ's secretary. ;)
Yup ;)

I do wish they would introduce Felisha Hardy though :naughty: She was Parker's first "love" interest... only later to become the Black Cat ...yummy :D

shukrallah
09-30-2005, 10:45 PM
Yeah, and there was another girl peter liked, named Liz. I think...