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Rends
10-28-2005, 12:57 PM
Well i wont post the same stuff here again so please hop over to gametoast:
http://gametoast.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2425

But feel free to ask questions here if you are not registert there!

master_skywalke
10-28-2005, 01:21 PM
Where did you get SWBFII at early, or was it pre-ordered?

Rends
10-28-2005, 01:27 PM
yes i preordered it

master_skywalke
10-28-2005, 01:54 PM
Where? Also, could you post a screenshot of the Coruscant Space level please?
EDIT: Just noticed the new pics on Gametoast. The game looks even better than I hoped it would be!

ParanoidAndroid
10-28-2005, 03:07 PM
Can you change the number of reinforcements or the number of bots, or both, in single player?

EI 9373
10-28-2005, 03:20 PM
I bought it today (UK highstreet) and its.....

AWESOME!!!!

System:
Athlon XP3200 1Gb RAM

Settings:
Maxxed Out (1280x960) full on!

Runs like a dream - well, when it isn'r crashing to desktop all the time...... :( :( :(

Jedi mode is great if a little fiddly to start with.

Tantive Map is small but sweet. http://www.lucasforums.com/images/icons/icon14.gif Can't wait to do the Death Star.

Only thing annoying me so far is: What do I press for screenshots?... 'PrintScrn' just captures to clipboard.
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Rends
10-28-2005, 03:21 PM
Can you change the number of reinforcements or the number of bots, or both, in single player?

Yes you can set both
0-32 players per side
10-500 reinforcements

KTR
10-28-2005, 03:34 PM
I bought it today (UK highstreet) and its.....

AWESOME!!!!

System:
Athlon XP3200 1Gb RAM

Settings:
Maxxed Out (1280x960) full on!

Runs like a dream.

Jedi mode is great if a little fiddly to start with.

Tantive Map is small but sweet. http://www.lucasforums.com/images/icons/icon14.gif Can't wait to do the Death Star.

Only thing annoying me so far is: What do I press for screenshots?... 'PrintScrn' just captures to clipboard.
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actually, swbf2 stores all the shots in a "screenshot" folder in the game install location.

alex533
10-28-2005, 03:37 PM
Bastard ASDA says on their store that it was released today, but when i got there it isnt!

It was in blockbuster though but only for ps2 and xbox >:(

i'll look down town tommorow

master_skywalke
10-28-2005, 03:41 PM
Does really nobody knows if there is a store in Belgium/Germany that sells it for early??

EI 9373
10-28-2005, 03:47 PM
actually, swbf2 stores all the shots in a "screenshot" folder in the game install location.
Hmm... I only had two when I looked. I took loads. :(

Oh well, back to the game! http://www.lucasforums.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

MachineCult
10-28-2005, 04:01 PM
Where did you get it from man?
I'm from the UK aswell.

master_skywalke
10-28-2005, 04:05 PM
Could you post some pics of the Death Star map??

EI 9373
10-28-2005, 04:09 PM
GAME (http://shop.game.net/) (but in a highstreet store).

If it's an error, they'll probably pull it by tomorrow morning... I actually said to the guy - "This is on pre-order, right?" and he replied "No... it's in stock and on sale now".

I bought it straight away... once he'd helped me back on to my feet! http://www.lucasforums.com/images/icons/icon10.gif

ParanoidAndroid
10-28-2005, 04:11 PM
Yes you can set both
0-32 players per side
10-500 reinforcements

Awsome, thanks Rends.

EI 9373
10-28-2005, 04:11 PM
Could you post some pics of the Death Star map??
Is that lacking around here?...

Let's see if the 'Print Scrn' key does its job this time.

Ryozan
10-28-2005, 04:26 PM
Can you fly a correlian Corvette?

Rends
10-28-2005, 05:05 PM
Well only fraps seems todo the screenshot job.Havnīt found an ingame key to take screenies.
The first screenshot i posted over at gametoast shows the deathstar minimap. Think about the prison area from EPIV plus the shaft.
Machinecult, iīm german not british so i got it from german online dealer.

Corellian corvette? You mean the blocade runner thingy? I donīt believe you can fly it. Havnīt tried to board it yet but donīt think itīs possible.

EI 9373
10-28-2005, 05:14 PM
Well only fraps seems todo the screenshot...
That was an oversight... :roleyess:

Commander Obi-Wan
10-28-2005, 05:55 PM
I have a question for those who have the game, is Space Coruscant in Instant Action? and how about Space Endor?

Rends
10-28-2005, 06:32 PM
Posted some Deathstar screenies at gametoast.

Coruscant space is campaign only. Other space maps could be played in instand action

EI 9373
10-28-2005, 08:19 PM
Some screenoids for you - probably nothing that you haven't seen before though.

Die Wookie! (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-29_00-44-38-4.jpg)

You too, hun! (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-29_00-44-18-7.jpg)

Don't just stand there... DIE! (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-29_00-43-16-5.jpg)

Making a mess of the place (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-29_00-42-38-6.jpg)

Err... help?! (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-29_00-14-05-5.jpg)

Short work (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-28_23-51-06-1.jpg) Jedi implementation really is great!

Chaos (http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-28_23-44-55-8.jpg)

http://www.lucasforums.com/images/icons/icon14.gif

Commander Obi-Wan
10-28-2005, 10:02 PM
I like the Acklay screenshot.....nice screenshots.

alex533
10-29-2005, 09:09 AM
yay, i finally got it! It was in GAME.

Kashyyk space battle:

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/7946/kashyyyk2rk.jpg

Hehe, geonosis training level is sweet, and Mygeeto kicks ass.

I was playing mustafar in instant action and there was sadly no anakin :(

Kurgan
10-29-2005, 10:07 AM
To anyone of you who've played the beta... how does this compare?

alex533
10-29-2005, 11:35 AM
Want any pics? i'll get em.

Kurgan
10-29-2005, 12:09 PM
Not pics so much as information. I bet nobody who has the game now played the beta beforehand. Am I right?

I'd like to know what they fixed or changed... I mean I'll find out myself within a week but still... for those of us not rushing out to buy the game the second it becomes available, some more info would be nice. ;)

Darth_Terros
10-29-2005, 12:35 PM
Damn you amazon hurry the hell up and send my copy!!!!

:ball:

Rends
10-29-2005, 12:57 PM
Kurgan,
remember the Gametoast beta buglist i posted? Well most bugs were multiplayer but i havnīt played much online yet because only a handfull guys are able to play online yet on home servers only.

But from the suggestions in the list i can say that i havnīt seen any changes in the final game yet.

Commander Obi-Wan
10-29-2005, 12:57 PM
So, alex533....I have ask this question numerous times...but is there Space Coruscant in Instant Action, or any flyable gunships on Geonosis.

Ryozan
10-29-2005, 01:13 PM
LMao how does Deflecting Blastershots look
Stylish?

alex533
10-29-2005, 01:34 PM
So, alex533....I have ask this question numerous times...but is there Space Coruscant in Instant Action, or any flyable gunships on Geonosis.

There is only space coruscant in campaign and i have only played geonosis in training.

Oh yeh and on campaign utapau is a bit different from the beta, two commmand posts are in different places and there is a big communications thing.

And the stardestroyers are bigger than in the beta, or im going insane.

Commander Obi-Wan
10-29-2005, 01:47 PM
okay...thanx....this sucks...no Space Courscant in IA...that's disappointing...that is one of the best space battles in the Star Wars saga....

alex533
10-29-2005, 01:57 PM
No gunships on geonosis only infantry, atte, spider, hailfire.

http://img497.imageshack.us/img497/8572/untitled1copy8jl.jpg

And there is a weird skybox issue on geonosis, maybe its my pc?

http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/923/untitled2copy3tr.jpg

Any other questions?

Commander Obi-Wan
10-29-2005, 02:02 PM
Geonosis looks better.......

alex533
10-29-2005, 02:07 PM
It is, except for the damn skybox and lack of air vehicles.

Darth_Terros
10-29-2005, 02:16 PM
That sky box is terrible!

And its a shame there isnt any vehicles :( thats lame

alex533
10-29-2005, 02:38 PM
http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/6866/untitled1copyjpg2220hd.jpg

Same commander on geonosis, the thing that makes it even worse is that they bothered to put in a new clone commander on campaign when empire have to fight rogue clones.

AI is improved, but maul is on mustafar instead of anakin .

http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/3329/untitled1copyjpg348lj.jpg

Kamino is changed a bit.

Commander Obi-Wan
10-29-2005, 03:04 PM
I am still disappointd about Space Coruscant being in only Story Mode...that sucks....oh well....can't do nothing about it. Also, I thionk Kamino loks better....I have seen a map of the level.

alex533
10-29-2005, 03:19 PM
im sure someone could mod it into multiplayer and instant action.

Commander Obi-Wan
10-29-2005, 03:23 PM
yes...they could...but only for PC users...not PS2..umph....well I don't think you can.

Kurgan
10-29-2005, 04:12 PM
Empire Vs. Republic forces, yay!

So did they get rid of the gunships thinking the Republic had too much of an advantage on Geonosis? Lame. They should just have given the CIS better transports to compensate. Oh well... hopefully we'll get decent mod tools! :P

And the AT-AT is nerfed even further? Yikes.

Well anyway, most of the world will be getting the game soon enough, they'll be servers to play on.

But for the meantime you guys with the game have no excuse. Use a batch file and you can test out everything by yourself, with bots or with a handful of humans by hosting... Check out the server administration thread for details!

Ryozan
10-29-2005, 04:27 PM
Ill ask this for the 3t time how does deflecting blastershots with a Lightsaber looks?
Stylish?

Rebel_Trooper
10-29-2005, 05:39 PM
I just got the game for Xbox (GAME UK) so I'd be willing to answer some questions as well.

It's miles better than the first game. Although I'm confused why it's Maul on Mustafar- it really pulls you out of an immersive battle!

And yes, I've played the BETA, and while it could be that I'm playing on the Xbox instead of a PC that doesn't fit the specs it really has improved graphical effects. The controls are good on an Xbox pad as well. Although it's better than the beta, it is pretty similar to it.

Rends
10-29-2005, 05:44 PM
Ill ask this for the 3t time how does deflecting blastershots with a Lightsaber looks?
Stylish?

It looks like it should be. Itīs not a that big effect but looks better than JKA. Well the deflected blasterfire goes in every direction very unlikely you can send it back to your enemy.

EI 9373
10-29-2005, 07:29 PM
[update]: (Galactic Conquest)

Errr... Rebel pilots getting into a Clone Gunship to attack an ISD?

Something isn't ringing true here......

Commander Obi-Wan
10-29-2005, 08:00 PM
To Rebel_Trooper, I'd like to know if Space Coruscant is in Instant Action? (I have asked this question many times, but it's usually good to have more than one source)

Rends
10-29-2005, 08:12 PM
Yes Rebels got the clone Gunship. Well i donīt have a problem with that because why not? They donīt have such transport craft so it isnīt that unlikely that they used old outdated stuff.

And no coruscant Space in Instand action or Mulityplayer. Itīs campaign only

EI 9373
10-29-2005, 08:29 PM
Space battles are overrated any way! ;) ;)

MagnaGuard
10-29-2005, 09:05 PM
I would be neat to have Jango Fett vs Boba Fett.

Commander Obi-Wan
10-29-2005, 10:19 PM
I would be neat to have Jango Fett vs Boba Fett.

I agree.....

rut-wa jodar
10-30-2005, 06:25 AM
Likes:
ability to fight in Space and then land and continue the battle on ships
Reinforcement adjustment
Hero/Jedi implementation
variety of Gamemodes
improved AI

Dislikes:
Menu interface
historical inacuracies
some weapon strengths still underpowered

apart from that I think SWBF2 is a big improvment over the last game.

alex533
10-30-2005, 06:29 AM
theres no space endor in the game at all, and there is no space mustafar even though its in campaign :(

the background of the menu sucks its just the same as beta, schematics and blueprints.

hunt mode is funny, spears stay in people:

http://img489.imageshack.us/img489/894/strooper1io.jpg

What video would you like to see?

MachineCult
10-30-2005, 08:48 AM
Those of you who have got the game early somehow, pre-ordered it,
or people who live in the UK and DIDN'T pre-order it from amazon.co.uk (unlike me)
Tell us you have it, what do you think? was it what you expected? What don't you like about it? What you do like?
and show us some screenshots, what vehicles and maps made the final game,
Stuff like that.

I haven't got it and i haven't even played the beta (my PC is just... weird)

EI 9373
10-30-2005, 09:13 AM
I've commented here: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=154447

Screen shots here too: http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=154520

The campaign mode is 'nails' at times - even in normal mode (not Elite).

Darth_Terros
10-30-2005, 09:39 AM
or people who live in the UK and DIDN'T pre-order it from amazon.co.uk (unlike me)


Ah good to see im not the only one :( oh well it got dispatched last night so we should have it tommorrow comrade!!

alex533
10-30-2005, 09:56 AM
Cant wait for someone to mod this game.

Mustafar is messed, obi vs maul for clone wars and obi vs anakin in galactic civil war. Weird.

http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/8707/obi7dm.jpg

alex533
10-30-2005, 09:59 AM
I have it, great improvement on the original, still lots of continuity errors though but that was to be expected. I dont like the fact that some things are missing from multiplayer and IA such as maps and stuff, the fact that they could have put the commander from the kamino level in campaign onto geonosis in IA and multiplayer but didnt. Im sure much of this could be fixed with mods but much of the game shouldnt have been rushed, that way it would have needed no modding. I like the new graphics, new models, hero system, new maps, improved AI, great Campaign, and altogether improving on the 1st battlefronts features but also including many new features. Mygeeto kicks ass. The hardest campaign level is Hoth. If you liked the 1st battlefront or star wars in general then this game is for you, the pc version would be the best to buy due to the fact that it can be modded succesfully.


http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/7016/untitled5copyjpg543259gw.jpg

http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/2738/untitled4copyjpg454351sp.jpg

http://img427.imageshack.us/img427/5937/untitled3tgew6hb.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/517/untitled2copyjpg65439gg.jpg

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/9716/untitled1copyjpg5433ga.jpg

McCusto
10-30-2005, 10:09 AM
Ok, you guys can stop bragging that you have the game now already :)

Darth Andrew
10-30-2005, 10:23 AM
Keep the pics comin', alex533! Could you possibly show some combat inside capital ships?

EI 9373
10-30-2005, 10:28 AM
Another little annoyance I have is that the levels/missions are all too fast-paced and frenetic. Slowing it down just a little would have allowed the player to take things in and think about tactics more.

As it is, it's just blast-o-rama.

Darth Andrew
10-30-2005, 10:40 AM
As it is, it's just blast-o-rama.Wasn't that the whole point of the first game? :D The Battlefront series isn't that original, and I think the main point of it is for the player to live out the dream of battling in the Star Wars universe, not execute breathtaking tactics. Meh, I don't mind.

EI 9373
10-30-2005, 10:43 AM
Here's some more. I won't link direct as that kinda wrecks a thread, don't you think? Especially at 1280x960 :D

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-30_15-10-40-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-30_15-09-09-7.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-30_15-03-53-1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-30_15-02-56-8.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-30_15-01-05-8.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y102/pbr/BattlefrontII_2005-10-30_14-47-14-5.jpg

Darth_Terros
10-30-2005, 10:45 AM
Cant wait for someone to mod this game.

Mustafar is messed, obi vs maul for clone wars and obi vs anakin in galactic civil war. Weird.


Well the clone wars had finished when obi-wan and anakin fought on mustafar

and anakin was never part of the seperatists but part of the empire

Blackrider27
10-30-2005, 10:46 AM
can we get some screenshots of flying. The arc 170, republic gunship ON LAND and the jedi starfighter

alex533
10-30-2005, 10:55 AM
I think the gunship is only in the space battles. And you cant land on the droid control ships.


http://img417.imageshack.us/img417/7276/space6ln.jpg

http://img426.imageshack.us/img426/1847/space24wd.jpg

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/7859/space39sn.jpg

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5743/space48pw.jpg

http://img449.imageshack.us/img449/6857/spac26iz.jpg

http://img414.imageshack.us/img414/9007/spac38jx.jpg

http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/6218/spaccopy2cu.jpg

On space coruscant the only republic vehicle is the arc170

MachineCult
10-30-2005, 10:58 AM
Ah good to see im not the only one :( oh well it got dispatched last night so we should have it tommorrow comrade!!

Aahh, thank God,
I've just checked again and my copy was dispatched today.

It'll be here tomorrow.

MachineCult
10-30-2005, 11:32 AM
alex, don't post the images post links to the images.

alex533
10-30-2005, 11:37 AM
ok, my bad

Darth_Terros
10-30-2005, 12:15 PM
Aahh, thank God,
I've just checked again and my copy was dispatched today.

It'll be here tomorrow.

Wooo!

I'll see you on the battlefield!

:lsduel:

McCusto
10-30-2005, 12:18 PM
Still 2 days for me :(

Blackrider27
10-30-2005, 12:19 PM
hey alex you just posted those on gametoast lmao cause you know my account on gametoast just doesn't have the 27 at the end thats me lucky number :-)

ParanoidAndroid
10-30-2005, 12:48 PM
Still 2 days for me

yep, me to man, me to.

Arc-453
10-30-2005, 01:00 PM
yep, me to man, me to.

*sigh* same.

I'm going crazy over here in canada ive looked at every gameplay footage peice, so many threads, i tried dling beta for pc (even though i have ps2 swbf1) twice and watched the trailers and everything so much.

Blackrider27
10-30-2005, 01:13 PM
NOT FOR MEEE nah jp i have to wait hmm i have to preorder today hopefully my sister can take me

Rebel_Trooper
10-30-2005, 01:27 PM
To Rebel_Trooper, I'd like to know if Space Coruscant is in Instant Action? (I have asked this question many times, but it's usually good to have more than one source)

I know it's been answered by others but just to be sure it's not. It wasn't even that good anyway- it was really empty!

zerted
10-30-2005, 01:41 PM
Does the sniper have a corsshair in normal view (ie. not zoomed in)?

zerted
10-30-2005, 01:41 PM
I'll get the game in a month to two...

Commander Obi-Wan
10-30-2005, 01:48 PM
Still 2 days for me :(

Same here.....what are you getting it for? PS2 for me.

Commander Obi-Wan
10-30-2005, 01:51 PM
I know it's been answered by others but just to be sure it's not. It wasn't even that good anyway- it was really empty!

Thanks.......

ET Warrior
10-30-2005, 01:56 PM
We already HAVE the SWBF2 first impressions. I'll merge the two threads, but any new threads like this will get the lockdown.

MachineCult
10-30-2005, 02:16 PM
So whos thread is this?

McCusto
10-30-2005, 02:18 PM
Same here.....what are you getting it for? PS2 for me.

I am renting it for the X-Box for all of November. But I am getting it for PC on Christmas

MachineCult
10-30-2005, 02:28 PM
This is great,
I had a good thread for once and ET gives Rends' thread all the posts from it.

Ryozan
10-30-2005, 03:19 PM
Does anyone have a pic of a republic gunship

Rends
10-30-2005, 03:50 PM
Does the sniper have a corsshair in normal view (ie. not zoomed in)?
No, itīs like the beta. No crosshair in standart view.

Kurgan
10-30-2005, 04:32 PM
Does anyone have a pic of a republic gunship

It's unchanged from SWBF1, isn't it?

What they're calling a "gunship" anyway, is just a LAAT with the "side doors" closed.

***

IA = Instant Action (solo mode playing an MP map offline with bots).

Yeah the Jedi blocking requires you to toggle the block option. You can't jump or sprint with it, and it rapidly drains your "energy" bar (the same one that's required for force powers and sprinting). You hold saber at the ready and block the stuff that comes in at random angles (at least that's how it all worked in the beta).

ET Warrior
10-30-2005, 05:44 PM
This is great,
I had a good thread for once and ET gives Rends' thread all the posts from it.
Why does it matter?:dozey:

Furthermore, YOUR thread was basically the same thread as this one, and this one came first. It was either lock your thread or merge it with this one.

MachineCult
10-30-2005, 05:44 PM
Did you really have to just delete my thread and put it on the end of this one?
No-ones ever going to read page 2!!! It just makes this one look better.

ET Warrior
10-30-2005, 05:54 PM
I appear to have forgotten that it's a competition to see whose thread gets the most posts. Are we giving out a free copy of BFII for the winner?

It makes it easier on everyone if there is only one thread to discuss first impressions of Battlefront II, and so I made it so.

MachineCult
10-30-2005, 06:02 PM
Well i wont post the same stuff here again so please hop over to gametoast:
http://gametoast.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=2425

But feel free to ask questions here if you are not registert there!


My thread was different to this one.
I said tell to people tell us what they think about the game when they get it, Not ask questions here if you want or go to another website.
Different threads, there was no need for it.

ET Warrior
10-30-2005, 07:47 PM
This is a pointless argument. I did what I did, I had good reason, and I can't undo it. Having a thread with a lot of posts in it isn't going to affect you any, so what's the point of complaining about it? You can still discuss your first impressions of the game, go ahead and discuss it. As I see, that's what this thread is for. So enjoi.

MandaloreBIC
10-30-2005, 10:45 PM
omg!!!!! did you say taht maul (who should be dead) is on mastaf!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!

Angarah
10-30-2005, 10:54 PM
omg!!!!! did you say taht maul (who should be dead) is on mastaf!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!

No he said that Maul is on Mustafar

I like Maul at the Jedi Temple, because it lets you see what would have happened if he lived to realize his dreams of attacking Jedi bookcases

rut-wa jodar
10-31-2005, 06:51 AM
battle on Dagobah ! what`s that all about ?

Did Pandemic mistakingly go to a Trekkie convention to get thier Star Wars Historical information ?

obiwanfan
10-31-2005, 09:50 AM
I just got Battlefront 2 this morning and all I've got to say is WOW! The hero characters are super powerful and have their own powers. The Jedi/Sith have Force Push, Pull, Saber Throw and Lightning while others like Boba Fett have their trademarks like missiles and flamethrowers. But now all the specialist characters like wookies and jet troopers need to be earned in a battle by killing enemies, capturing command posts etc. But while this is a disadvantage some of the more more useless troops like the engineers have special powers for example the engineers can cut into enemy vechiles with the fusion cutters now. Last new thing I've come across is the space battles. They are fun but REALLY long. I sat playing my brother while he was trying to cripple my ship for over an hour! Anyways if I come across any more interesting facts I will try to post them here.

Kurgan
10-31-2005, 05:15 PM
No he said that Maul is on Mustafar

I like Maul at the Jedi Temple, because it lets you see what would have happened if he lived to realize his dreams of attacking Jedi bookcases


At last we will have revenge... on reading!

Jug
11-01-2005, 02:53 AM
Hmm, any comments on multiplayer performance?

The lag and bandwidth requirements was a #1 complaint among many SWBF1 players and it would be good to hear things about this, especially of course from people who had problems with it before. ;)

Thanks for your reports so far! :D

ManiacMoFo
11-01-2005, 04:57 AM
Hmm, any comments on multiplayer performance?

The lag and bandwidth requirements was a #1 complaint among many SWBF1 players and it would be good to hear things about this, especially of course from people who had problems with it before. ;)

Thanks for your reports so far! :D

if you'r talking about the PC version, then its a bit early to say cos there aint that many proper servers yet. most servers are running on someones home rig and home connections just aint good enough to run big games lag free. i have been playing on some ok servers though and the pings seem a bit more stable and best of all theres no 30fps cap in MP like there was in SWBF1. also some servers have been set up really poorly with multiple game modes and the crappiest maps running but this ofcourse is down to personal preferance as i'd like to play only the newer maps and space maps. the ticket amounts have been low in all of the servers meaning that the rounds tend to end pretty quick.

im still waiting to see a 64 man space maps only server with tickets set higher for some massive space battles, i sure hope someone will set up a server like this :D.

Jug
11-01-2005, 05:42 AM
OK, thanks for that.. Yes, I'm talking about PC to be clear. :)

Will still be interesting to hear more about as the game gets more crowded, although the lack of a cap is sure a good start. :)

Kurgan
11-01-2005, 07:49 AM
The player limit recommendations from LucasArts I believe are posted on the 'net. Personally I wouldn't expect to be able to host huge 64 player games unless you've got a fantastic box and amazing line. Most people probably should settle for something smaller like 8 or 16 players max. If you're on dialup, forget it! (4 players?)

When I get the game I will try to run a server with my available bandwidth, but I'm only on cable, so don't expect miracles. ;)

Yeah I'd say if you want anything on the mod scene or the MP scene... just wait a week or two. The game just came out today for most of us!

IF they provide a linux dedicated server then you'll see the community grow and expand. If not, expect the same 30 servers you have in SWBF1 after four months.

But few people who have the game now probably realize you can play the MP games solo. They're probably just playing them instant action, since they don't know how to create a batch file.

Actually SWBF1 removed the FPS cap and fixed many things in the last patch (1.3 beta) but almost nobody uses it, since it wasn't that heavily advertised. It's "beta" but it's still better than 1.2, even if it doesn't fix every bug (there's still tons of exploits in the game). Another thing is the Cd crackz that are out don't work with 1.3, so there's another reason, ha.

I'm curious if the chat engine is still as laggy and annoyingly placed as before. They basically don't want you to use it in this game, I guess in favor of voice communication (which not everyone on the PC has or uses)... in the beta it was still bad. I'm not too hopeful that they fixed it.

Can you type a normal speed sentence without looking and have it look like a normal person typed it? Or does it drop letters and make you look dyslexic still?

ManiacMoFo
11-01-2005, 10:07 AM
Personally I wouldn't expect to be able to host huge 64 player games unless you've got a fantastic box and amazing line. Most people probably should settle for something smaller like 8 or 16 players max. If you're on dialup, forget it! (4 players?)

indeed, i think its impossible/very unwise to start hosting 64 player games on a home connection cos such a game would require a 3 meg upload speed or something and most connections in the EU area have a 1 meg upload give or take, wich should be enough for a 10-14 player games. with a 56k connection you might not even be able to play this game or host a session.

Actually SWBF1 removed the FPS cap and fixed many things in the last patch (1.3 beta)

yea too bad they released the patch when it was too late.

I'm curious if the chat engine is still as laggy and annoyingly placed as before. They basically don't want you to use it in this game, I guess in favor of voice communication (which not everyone on the PC has or uses)... in the beta it was still bad. I'm not too hopeful that they fixed it.

Can you type a normal speed sentence without looking and have it look like a normal person typed it? Or does it drop letters and make you look dyslexic still?

well the chat is a bit laggy yes although it doesnt bother me personally that much. as for dropping letters, hasnt happened to me or atleast i havent noticed anything or then im just a slow typer.

noticed a funny thing when i browsed the SWBF2 installation folders, for some reason the game saves all the chats as text files ( only chat traffic, no kill mesages etc. ). might be a leftover from the beta cos frankly i dont see much point in this and who knows it might be the reason for the laggy chat.

master_skywalke
11-01-2005, 10:12 AM
LOL, did somebody already notice that if you play the Celebirty mode on Mos Eisley you hear JEDI ROCKS from ROTJ :D

rut-wa jodar
11-01-2005, 01:00 PM
I feel a little disappointed by the lack of features in the PC version compared to the console version.

Xbox has a nice selection of movie clips when game loads,PC doesn`t
Xbox has Bot support for heroes in singleplayer conquest, PC doesn`t

Kurgan
11-01-2005, 07:22 PM
Yeah. Perhaps they are doing this on purpose to make up for the lack of modding ability, smaller number of MP players and adjustable resolution/performance with better hardware like on the PC.

JACK BAUER
11-01-2005, 10:37 PM
I guess I'm in the minority but I think the game sucks.

1)The game engine isn't exactly the same (it's very jerky and I don't mean laggy),
2)The game graphics don't have a clear feel to them,
3)The interface graphics are cheesy as well.
4) Like someone posted earlier their are enemies everywhere so you can't even really explore a map.
5)The mines glow in the dark, so you would have to be a moron to step on one.

I only played for just over an hour (online) but I was pretty dissapointed so I turned it off.

MandaloreBIC
11-02-2005, 12:46 AM
yay i got it today!!! but i'm prob not gonna get to play it til the day after tomorrow (thursday) that sucks...
and since mual is not where he is souppose to be, lets say he's in jabba's place (not true, but still use your brain) and luke and mual gets into a duel, who would win? i'm rooting for mual....

added later: and the mines are reasonable that way, have you played tantive 4 on MP whre ppl would just put mines on the other side of doors, you can't kill it, but you know it's there... why do you know? because it glows throguh walls! if it didn't mine lamers/spamers would own!!!!

ET Warrior
11-02-2005, 01:03 AM
But what is the point of laying a mine if the enemies will know it's there? It'd be like having remote mines that only detonate when the enemy pushes the button...seems like a poor design decision.

Evil Dark Jedi
11-02-2005, 05:03 AM
I really like the game. The space battles are awesome because you can go in and sabotage their command ship from the inside. Much better than the first!

Kurgan
11-02-2005, 07:37 AM
I guess I'm in the minority but I think the game sucks.

1)The game engine isn't exactly the same (it's very jerky and I don't mean laggy),
2)The game graphics don't have a clear feel to them,
3)The interface graphics are cheesy as well.
4) Like someone posted earlier their are enemies everywhere so you can't even really explore a map.
5)The mines glow in the dark, so you would have to be a moron to step on one.

I only played for just over an hour (online) but I was pretty dissapointed so I turned it off.

That's a bummer. Guess you should have played the beta (or console demo) first...?

Crow_Nest
11-02-2005, 08:21 AM
That's a bummer. Guess you should have played the beta (or console demo) first...?

Wait, is that for the PC version? Cause ive played the Xbox demo and game feels pretty much the same as BF1. Execpt that now i noticed that certian floors are bump mapped. Graphics are exactly the same IMO, execpt for certian new effects such as the reflective floors

zerted
11-02-2005, 08:47 AM
A friend of mine bought the game and let me play it. It took me a full night to beat it on Elite. Some things I've noticed:
1) Its too fast. You have a very limited about of renforcements (about 20) while the enemy has an unlimited count. I would rather take my time working through each objective and enjoying the Star War's sights rather than race through everything like a coin operated raceing game, where you are attempting to get to the next checkpoint so you can play a little longer.
2) The Engineer is way overpowered. I did my best to play each level through as a Sniper, but if you can't get through a spot, become an Engineer. I had no trouble in any area when I was an Engineer. The detpack will kill any unit, even the 'bosses'. I blew up 3 Jedi 'Masters' (compared to the hoards of normal Jedi) witha one POORLY placed detpack. It takes two shots from the shotgun to destroy any Jedi. I think it should be more.
3) A teammates follows you. I like how they did the bot team managment. You tell what ever unit you are pointing at to follow or leave you alone. This way you can take one or two units (who ever you are pointing at, so you can pick the type of unit)with you on a flanking move, instead of the whole crowd of units near you.

On the campains:
1) Its too fast. The levels are effectively over before I figure out where I am on the map. It normally ends up me vs 14 enemy units. Those 14 units are spread randomly around the map, so its not too hard (but it takes a while) to snipe them all out. One thing different from SWBF, the units don't get out of the vehicles when there is less than 20 renforcements left. It sucks going up aganist a vehicle when the counters are at 1-1.
2) You can't do much landing on enemy captial ships. There are HOARDS of units standing around the inner doors. You can land, run to the doors, and drop a time bomb. You get about 11 kills, but you can't run in and blow up ship systems. There are too many bots. They mow you down fast.

master_skywalke
11-02-2005, 11:56 AM
2) You can't do much landing on enemy captial ships. There are HOARDS of units standing around the inner doors. You can land, run to the doors, and drop a time bomb. You get about 11 kills, but you can't run in and blow up ship systems. There are too many bots. They mow you down fast.
You can, but you can't take out the shieldgenerator from inside, because it takes to much ammo. I always first destroy the Auto-Defence system from inside, so I can destroy the Communication Relay, Sensor Relay and Life Support System with my TIE Fighter/Arc-170 fighter (I always use those ships). At the moment its impossible to play online, because the most servers got a ping of 500 or over and lag you to dead, the lowest ping I saw until now was 285!

Kurgan
11-02-2005, 02:27 PM
A friend of mine bought the game and let me play it. It took me a full night to beat it on Elite. Some things I've noticed:

Just out of curiosity... did you play all of Galactic Conquest? Because the "single player" campaign of SWBF1 I thought was VERY easy, except for like one or two missions (I think Dune Sea and Bespin) where suddenly the AI became crack shots (this was before the 1.03 patch though) forcing you to be a monster gunman in order to win (your teammates suddenly became useless fodder, and all the poor combat prior gave you a false sense of security up to that point).

However, in SWBF1, Galactic Conquest was another matter. It was like 4x longer than the entire SP campaign (lots of filler, but still). Beating that would take forever. I got about halfway through it (beat it with CIS then switched to Imperials) and then got to Kashyyk (the one with the huts as opposed to the beach) and it was practically impossible (my team is fodder). So I gave up. So I'm just curious, is the campaign longer, shorter here? Or are you not including GC? (Or do they not have a GC SP campaign?).


1) Its too fast. You have a very limited about of renforcements (about 20) while the enemy has an unlimited count. I would rather take my time working through each objective and enjoying the Star War's sights rather than race through everything like a coin operated raceing game, where you are attempting to get to the next checkpoint so you can play a little longer.

So it's very different from SWBF1 where you had tickets of 100 up to 250, but the enemy usually had like 50 more than you?

SWBF1's campaigs were similarly short. This isn't a problem in MP (at least in the SWBF2 beta, because you can set ticket counters higher.. but then there's nothing you can do about people capturing everything quickly if they make it happen).

2) The Engineer is way overpowered. I did my best to play each level through as a Sniper, but if you can't get through a spot, become an Engineer.

I imagine the sniper sucks now, with the increased Infantry health (unless his sniper rifle has been beefed up to compensate) and the lack of a "prone" position...

If the Engineer is overpowered, what about the Heavy Trooper (rocket guy)?
;)

I had no trouble in any area when I was an Engineer. The detpack will kill any unit, even the 'bosses'. I blew up 3 Jedi 'Masters' (compared to the hoards of normal Jedi) witha one POORLY placed detpack. It takes two shots from the shotgun to destroy any Jedi. I think it should be more.

TK and the other Jedi haters will be pleased! Then again in MP it may be different. I don't think I ever successfully killed anyone with a detpack in the beta, but then maybe I just suck. ;)


3) A teammates follows you. I like how they did the bot team managment. You tell what ever unit you are pointing at to follow or leave you alone. This way you can take one or two units (who ever you are pointing at, so you can pick the type of unit)with you on a flanking move, instead of the whole crowd of units near you.

In the beta I thought the AI was vastly improved over SWBF1, it's good to hear this was retained. My question is, can they repair things?

On the campains:
1) Its too fast. The levels are effectively over before I figure out where I am on the map. It normally ends up me vs 14 enemy units. Those 14 units are spread randomly around the map, so its not too hard (but it takes a while) to snipe them all out. One thing different from SWBF, the units don't get out of the vehicles when there is less than 20 renforcements left. It sucks going up aganist a vehicle when the counters are at 1-1.

Still, smart idea. ;) You can always try to hack them out of their vehicles though, if you're quick...

2) You can't do much landing on enemy captial ships. There are HOARDS of units standing around the inner doors. You can land, run to the doors, and drop a time bomb. You get about 11 kills, but you can't run in and blow up ship systems. There are too many bots. They mow you down fast.

Interesting. In the beta it was pathetically easy to destroy internal ship systems if you started early. The bots practically ignored you unless you attacked them first (favoring setting up defensive guns and then running to the ships), which was probably a bug in the AI routines on the space maps.

You could just run past them, blow up everything, then steal one of their ships and go destroy the rest...

This game is SUPPOSED to be about teamwork. In Single Player, this means they need to have AWESOME AI that actually follow orders. Ideally, that means if you are a good captain coordinating your team, you should win.

In MP if the people are all smart and working together they should win.

What I hated about SWBF1 was that your team was hopelessly stupid, forcing you to be Rambo, rather than Caesar (soldier who does all the work rather than general), while the other team was masterful at head shots and slaughtering your team in bottlenecks. It was a race for you to win before your own team committed suicide, in other words.


Well, if what you say is true, it sounds like SP will be much more entertaining this time around (if still short). I just hope they spent as much time on MP as they did on SP. This game really should be about online play, so I hope all that time we put into the beta was worthwhile...

Kurgan
11-02-2005, 02:31 PM
You can, but you can't take out the shieldgenerator from inside, because it takes to much ammo. I always first destroy the Auto-Defence system from inside, so I can destroy the Communication Relay, Sensor Relay and Life Support System with my TIE Fighter/Arc-170 fighter (I always use those ships). At the moment its impossible to play online, because the most servers got a ping of 500 or over and lag you to dead, the lowest ping I saw until now was 285!

In the beta destroying internal systems was easy because there was an ammo droid inside (two in fact.. one by the ship spawn point and one inside the first door leading to the objectives).

Is that no longer true?

If you want to play online, just host your own server. That's what I'd do.

alex533
11-02-2005, 03:21 PM
Capital Ships:

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/9312/screenshot00317jo.jpg
http://img328.imageshack.us/img328/9804/screenshot00323an.jpg
http://img320.imageshack.us/img320/6461/screenshot00349xz.jpg
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/5839/screenshot00360he.jpg
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/446/untitled1copy0rm.jpg

zerted
11-02-2005, 03:45 PM
I played through the entire objective based campain (the 501's missions). I started the Conquest modes (Birth of the Rebellian) but didn't get too far into it yet.

I like the new Galactic Conquest better than SWBF1's. You control planets and space ship fleets. The ships move around the universe in turns and fight where ever they meet or land on an enemy planet. You get points for winning battle and you have to buy everything (your units, your fleets, your 'powerups'). Each army only starts with the normal trooper. You have to buy the other units.

The AI repirs everything.

I did better than I though I would as the sniper. You don't have time to camp and snipe units off. Your renfoorcements are too low. I felt the sniper moved the fastest, which was important. I was racing everywhere. You can't be Rambo. Then enemy has an infinite amout of renforcements and you have about 20. You are not Caesar too. You can only give the follow me, pile in, pile out, break off (stop following) commands. There is only one command button.

Next time I play, I'll post a picture of the massive amounts of units on the captial ships.