View Full Version : Where does it come from? (minor spoilers)

10-31-2005, 10:50 PM
Hi, everyone.

I've been browsing through Kotor's Streammusic folder, looking for good music for my JK series levelset. Now, I found some jaw-drop music, with a lot of possible uses. The problem is, I don't recognize it. It is called mus_theme_carth and I have listened to it a few times. I've never heard this music play in the game. There are a couple of these files I've never heard, but this may have to do with the fact I never play DS in the game. I'd like you to identify where it is from, if it is in the game. Is there a music file that plays when you go DS, that features a trumpet solo at the very beginning?

The Doctor
10-31-2005, 11:15 PM
Sounds like Carth's theme, which isn't played in game (at least no outside a cinematic video). After the trumpet, it goes into woodwinds (sounds like clarinets), then back into trumpet, etc, right?

10-31-2005, 11:16 PM
Yes! I'd post a 10-second clip I made, but da rules are against me. ;) But it's in a cutscene... where? on the SF?

The Doctor
10-31-2005, 11:20 PM
I think it's in the battle at the Star Forge between the Republic and Sith fleets. OM me the clip of the song so I can be sure, but I'm pretty sure. I won't be able to get back to you for about 18 hours (gotta get to bed so I can get to school on time tommorow. First time for everything.)

10-31-2005, 11:25 PM
OM? not sure what that is.

The Doctor
11-01-2005, 06:15 PM
I meant PM. Sorry (stupid typo).

11-01-2005, 07:18 PM
Uh... I can't PM an attachment. I can't upload it to most servers - even when Winzipped, it's 2 MB. And no e-mail possibility, that's off for you. I looked at the YouSendIt service, because that allows up to 1 GB of space (wow) but it requires an e-mail address. And of course, hosting there lasts only a week.

11-01-2005, 07:25 PM
Nuts, I was going to ask for a PM too. Oh well, when K2 comes and I install it I will look around for it.

11-01-2005, 07:50 PM
It's a file in K1.

The Doctor
11-01-2005, 07:52 PM
I don't know why it won't let you email me. I told it to allow this. Try again now.

11-01-2005, 08:08 PM
Sorry, it still won't do it. Odd error, but no matter. I found a service that let me upload the 2.02 MB zip file. However, it will take a little bit of time for that file to be processed. I'll provide a link as soon as it does. :)

Link ain't working. Just a sec, let me try to fix this.

EDIT II - I can't host files unless I pay up money. I have to E-mail the stupid thing, and if I could do that, I wouldn't be at that site. *sigh* I'll look for another site...

EDIT III - OK. I think I got it! (the cold, too. ;) ) Free uploading. I gotta remember this site. Anyway, this is merely a 10-second clip, since I don't want to break the moderator's rules, here.

EDIT IV - Now it should work.

EDIT V - Still screwed up. This is odd...

The Doctor
11-01-2005, 08:39 PM
Yes, that's the one I was thinking about. Great song. Almost as good as Bastila's theme, but not quite.

11-01-2005, 08:40 PM
It worked for you? Odd, it just took me to the upload page. ???

Anyway, I think Carth's theme is kick-arse. Judging from an analytical perspective:

Bastila's theme has a peaceful, graceful tune, showing a "dawn" or "opening" mood. It's good in it's own way, but I don't prefer it.

Carth's theme has the feeling that this is set up: Many heroes are now dead, as the good guys crumble. The enemy advances on the last of the defenders, as they prepare for a last stand to save their lives.

This is exactly what is in Kotor as it is used, and it is how I intend to use it: If the PC in Jedi Academy turns to the dark side. It has much more of an action theme to it. I prefer it.

BTW, while we are on the topic of streammusic, I am having a decompression problem. Most sound files will decompress just fine, but two files I really want won't extract. They are: The good ending (57.wav) and the evil ending (evil_ending.wav). Oh, and the credits (credits.wav). If I try, it'll get to about 70% and then the program will crash.

11-02-2005, 01:08 AM
I don't know why it won't let you email me. I told it to allow this. Try again now.
You guys/gals know can give each other your email addresses through PM's and send it through your email systems. ;)

11-02-2005, 08:29 AM
Yess... but The Doc said in another thread that he deletes them.

11-02-2005, 02:20 PM
Then just don't delete them! :xp:

About the music;
I believe it was never really used in-game, its some leftover scraps just like the Sleheyron music. It MIGHT be played during the starforge cutscenes but I never could distinguish it :(

The Doctor
11-02-2005, 04:05 PM
I have to delet them lately, cause its just horny losers asking for the link to the Nude Bastila/Juhani/Mission mods. They now disguise them with other subjects. Losers.
It is used, but only part of it, and only in a cutscene during the battle of the Star Forge.

11-02-2005, 06:25 PM
I think the Sleheyron music was recycled and used in another place. *listens to mus_area_slehey* Hmm. That can be d/led from lucasfiles.com. *listens to mus_bat_slehey* Now where did I hear that? Oh yeah, the STAR FORGE. Cool.

Doc, if I helped bring it up, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to. Why not give them this message (cut and paste into the PM reply)

StaffSaberist says: The mod is of low quality. Don't d/l it. It's not worth it. Tried it, and hated it. StaffSaberist is a guy and wanted the mod until he saw how bad it was.

I guarantee, after a few messages like that, they'll stop bugging you. I say this b/c I feel guilty, and want to help make amends. :D

The Doctor
11-02-2005, 06:47 PM
I got plaenty before I got the one from you. You didn't start it, so stop feeling guilty:D
The Sleheyron Music wasn't used as it is in the music files. Only very short sections of it were used. The whole song was never played in game.

11-02-2005, 07:17 PM
The Slehayron area music, no, you're right, but the battle music was recycled and used as the battle music on the Star Forge. Anyone who doesn't believe me can call up a Star Forge Save, play a bit, and play the mus_bat_slehey. It's the same music!

11-02-2005, 07:35 PM
Carth's theme plays briefly during the end credits.

11-02-2005, 10:39 PM
It does? Hmm. I'd better listen again, didn't notice that.