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Stryker412
11-03-2005, 11:17 AM
I have modified my poll after talking with someone at Lucasarts. If you want to see Linux supported it is very important you vote in this poll, and also get anyone you know who needs this to vote.

ManiacMoFo
11-03-2005, 12:41 PM
if a linux server is needed to get more proper dedicated servers running then im all for it.

Kramerika
11-03-2005, 02:49 PM
How about an option for "I use Windows servers but would like to see Linux support"? ;) We use Windows 2003 server exclusively for all of our game servers, and it works great for us. But I understand the need for Linux servers to make a game successful in the long run. I voted honestly here, but despite the fact that I did not vote for Linux, Linux support is a good thing.

anders^on
11-03-2005, 04:25 PM
This game does need linux support.

Not for the sake of satisfying some weird fanboys, but to get some more servers up and running. It would be pessimistic to say that there'll be at least twice as many servers after the release of a linux server software.


For Christ's sake just stop ignoring us, Pandemic. That would be a big step for a start. Deliberatly not answering these calls might hide the downside of the glorious Battlefront 2 .. but on the long term it'll ruin the whole game once more.

I myself didn't buy the game so far and I'm not planning to, unless there'll be some long term potential.

Stryker412
11-03-2005, 04:59 PM
This game does need linux support.

Not for the sake of satisfying some weird fanboys, but to get some more servers up and running. It would be pessimistic to say that there'll be at least twice as many servers after the release of a linux server software.


For Christ's sake just stop ignoring us, Pandemic. That would be a big step for a start. Deliberatly not answering these calls might hide the downside of the glorious Battlefront 2 .. but on the long term it'll ruin the whole game once more.

I myself didn't buy the game so far and I'm not planning to, unless there'll be some long term potential.

I'm working very hard to make sure that there is.

Blackmuzzle
11-04-2005, 03:04 AM
Agreed, a linux dedicated server is the way to go. And this needs to be done quickly, otherwise you'll loose the head-start bonus. You need more servers NOW, and a linux server is the best and cheapest way to get that.

Denkfix
11-04-2005, 07:43 AM
No Linux, less servers, less players and dead...like BF1

I dont even understand why we need this poll, it should be a standard procedure to release a linux server.

Eversmann
11-06-2005, 10:09 AM
I only run Linux servers for games. The cost is much lower and the stability is the best.

SWBF1 was a failure about servers. I liked the game a lot and when i was going to run a server for our community i found i was losing my time.

I hope to see a linux version of the ded. server once it's released. Just see how popular are the battlefield servers because of that.

SH|Micromac
11-06-2005, 11:07 AM
our Community have only Linux Server an we order not a Windows Server only for SWBF2.

Kurgan
11-06-2005, 06:01 PM
Without a Linux Server the community will remain small, that's all I have to say (points to the 26 servers in the SWBF1 community and other online games without a linux dedicated server option).

Wilhuf
11-06-2005, 07:29 PM
I would vote yes to linux but not for the reason that it is the only OS on which I run server applications.

If there is some demonstrable benefit to using Linux over windows for hosting games, then sure, I would use it. For example, could I reasonably expect to host more players on a linux OS than on a windows OS, using the same hardware? I'm not asking rhetorically. I would seriously like to know if there is any evidence that linux is more efficient and can handle more clients than windows on the same hardware.

phreack
11-08-2005, 08:06 PM
I don't know about hosting more players on a server with the same hardware, but I personally use FreeBSD (a flavor of *nix) for security reasons. I simply refuse to put a server out there with all the security holes that are in windows. I really want a *nix port of the server...friends hosting off of their DSL connection just isn't very fun. I've got a few OC3's running to my box, and I'd really like to be able to play on it. Please make me a *nix server.

Bones_TAW
11-11-2005, 05:52 PM
I want a linux server.

evilmegaman
11-13-2005, 03:01 AM
wow I did not realize there was no linux server available! come on make with the *nix server already!

Denkfix
11-14-2005, 06:10 PM
No need to argue about that anymore. Sold BF2 today cause our clan just owns Linux servers. We never had a thought that there will be no Linux server. Dissappointed and bye.

Proto
11-15-2005, 07:45 AM
Yeah, guess thats typical and natural situation. In case of our Order (SW gaming clan+SW organisation) linux server is "to be or not to be" for SWBF2 as well, as it was for SWBF. No linux server- we don't even have a way to give it a shot. If devs think it's not worth it then it's their problem... Being unable to play SWBF2 is not that much of a problem for us- there's always JK series out there with apiropriate mods like Movie Battles II and with linux server support.

That sounds a bit like some kind of blackmail, but it's not one - just pointing out importance of having unix server binaries implemented for LEC and Pandemic. Don't just try to cash game at sales, try to keep it popular and going.

Stryker412
11-15-2005, 11:15 PM
Well after talking back and forth with a Lucasarts Producer, it seems as though a Linux server is unlikely. I tried to express the importance to us as server admins, but they claim that Pandemic does not have the resources to devote to it right now. So here's to another Battlefront without Linux.

Carpaltunnal
11-21-2005, 03:58 PM
I run a dedicated 20 player server on XP, but I would turn that box into a linux server in an instant if we got linux server support.

CT.

interp
12-05-2005, 10:31 PM
Waiting for linux server...

I wont be supporting lucas anymore if one doesen't come because I refuse to use windows as dedicated server.

I was able to get the the dedicated server running under wine but I also refuse to run gnome + wine on my linux box. The performance with running it under wine was also (as expected) terrible.

Also if I may refer any lucas developers to Netcraft.com (http://survey.netcraft.com/Reports/200512/byserver/index.html) and also here (http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2005/12/05/strong_growth_for_debian.html) and if you didint know that Linux is the the OS of choice for dedicated servers then SLAP. Hell I bet your CVS or Subversion server is running Linux. Your nightly backups are processed by a Linux computer. You webserver used to run Linux now its running Freebsd (link here (http://toolbar.netcraft.com/site_report?url=http://www.lucasforums.com))

I and others shoulden't need to be posting about this.. but apparently.....

THX1138_Scorpio
12-06-2005, 06:33 PM
I just wish Lucasarts would actually put all of their effort into a game and not consistently make half-@ssed games. The idea that they won't even consider making linux support for this game just goes to show that LA can't compete with REAL game producers.

I hate to say it, but the fact that the game has "STAR WARS" on the front gurantees it is going to sell, whether or not they want to actually make decent games is up to them. I like Battlefront 2 but to nubtastically disregard the actual SW gamers and their cry for linux support just shows a lack of responsibility.

interp
12-08-2005, 12:36 AM
I just wish Lucasarts would actually put all of their effort into a game and not consistently make half-@ssed games. The idea that they won't even consider making linux support for this game just goes to show that LA can't compete with REAL game producers.

I hate to say it, but the fact that the game has "STAR WARS" on the front gurantees it is going to sell, whether or not they want to actually make decent games is up to them. I like Battlefront 2 but to nubtastically disregard the actual SW gamers and their cry for linux support just shows a lack of responsibility.

Well said. (bump)

interp
12-08-2005, 06:11 PM
You robots are a disgrace to this university! Whenever a fire alarm is pulled, Robot House. Whenever the campus liquor store is looted, Robot House. Whenever a human corpse is desacrated-

GIVE US ANSWERS! Ill just keep posting until this thread gets locked..

Thrik
12-08-2005, 06:31 PM
Um, you do realise that this isn't the official LucasArts forum, don't you? I really hope that you didn't PM all of the other administrators as well as me with the URL to this thread -- none of us work for LucasArts or Pandemic.

Boba Rhett
12-09-2005, 11:34 AM
Oh, he did.

Kurgan
12-09-2005, 04:16 PM
Hmm, I already replied to this (per the PM). I'd love a Linux server as much as anyone. I have no control over what happens, and even if I did, I don't know the first thing about linux programming. ;P

The number of servers now is bigger than SWBF1, but with no mod tools, no patch, and no linux server, it will dwindle and remain small like the first game before long.

The average lifespan of a game is 4 months with nothing to keep it going, so we're 1/4th of the way to dead right now. Let's hope Pandemic/LucasArts doesn't let that happen.

The first step to ensuring that MP prospers is a linux distribution. The second is some decent patches to fix bugs, and finally the decision to allow editing and the release of some basic modding tools. LucasArts constantly trumpets the supposedly massive sales of the first game (though they hide behind the simultaneous sales with Star Wars DVDs, so perhaps the sales figures are exaggerated... what are they afraid of??). Yet this game will die if it relies solely on single player to sell it. Don't they realize how popular good multiplayer games can be? Popularity breeds loyalty.

SWBF2 was sold on Episode III hype and the SWBF1 name alone. There was no PC demo!



People will be far less likely to buy any future sequels or spinoffs if all they can ever expect from it is single player and then and end of support after the game comes out.

Stryker412
12-09-2005, 09:35 PM
Well I was talking to a rep from Lucasarts for a bit. We went back and forth via e-mail. I even gave him a name of someone who could do the linux code in their sleep. He did CoD, UT, AA, and a few other games. However, their claim is they don't have the resources to do it. So, unfortunately there's just nothing we can do and Pandemic has already moved on to other games. So we'll get 1 patch soon, then that will be it.

swphreak
12-09-2005, 09:57 PM
Interp, consider this your only warning. Read the forum CoC. (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=151643)

IrishDragon
01-09-2006, 08:36 PM
For the love of God.. YES!!! Get us some linux server files! My members are about to tear me apart to get them a BF_II server! We're anxious to branch! =)

The 28+ members of AoF are interested in hosting a BF_2 server, as well as many of the 400+ members in our forums. The interest is there, thus far the support is not. Help us keep the Star Wars gaming communities strong!

LoRdNaTaS
01-15-2006, 01:21 AM
Well after talking back and forth with a Lucasarts Producer, it seems as though a Linux server is unlikely. I tried to express the importance to us as server admins, but they claim that Pandemic does not have the resources to devote to it right now. So here's to another Battlefront without Linux.

Just an FYI they said the same thing when SWBF 1 came out as well. Personally I think they are just to dam lazy and don't want to make multiple servers so they dont have to maintain multiple severs. But if you look at the games with both *nix and Winblows version of the server the games stay longer and the community grows bigger. But hey what the hell do I know I played Galaxies for over a year and got fubared on that one.

Plus I have only ever run one server that was not *nix and that was for Raven shield but all my other games have been on *nix. The security is better for the servers and the cost is a hell of a lot better for *nix servers then for Winblows. Well if you keep winblows legal that is.

Just my 2 credits

IrishDragon
01-17-2006, 01:07 AM
They don't need to offer anything. Give us the linux server files. The hosting companies set up the rest on their end. We sign up for a server or we use a currently rented one in our possession.

Not putting out a linux dedicated server file is probably one of the most irresponsible things they have done. That and not using the vastly superior UT engine or HL engine for some of their FPS games. :swear:

If they are going to continue creating games, they need to open their eyes to the communities that spring up around them.

Want loyal customers? Be a loyal company and don't half-ass the game. ^_^