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StaffSaberist
11-04-2005, 08:45 PM
I looked in the search and found nothing, so I think it's safe to ask.

I've wanted that game for so long, I can't stand it. But, I want it out for the PC. Does anybody know if this will happen?

MarcusLeCoy
11-04-2005, 10:19 PM
Nope.

Not gonna happen.

StaffSaberist
11-04-2005, 11:51 PM
http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/cry.gif I want my Episode III! http://forums.civfanatics.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

TiE23
11-05-2005, 12:08 AM
I don't think you'd be missing much.

ET Warrior
11-05-2005, 03:27 AM
It REALLY wasn't that good of a game. It was kinda nifty, had some swell campy moments, but overall you probably shouldn't lose sleep over not getting to play it.

Lightsaberboy
11-05-2005, 03:58 AM
just rent it for a console. you could beat it in an hour or two.

StaffSaberist
11-05-2005, 10:23 AM
Oh. Well, in that case, I won't waste my money saving for a console. *listens to the gasps of people who can't believe there is somebody out there without a console* In that case, I'll use my money on KotOR II. *listens to more gasps* ;)

MTV2
11-05-2005, 12:59 PM
man, i beat that game in 2 days for like 3-4 hours ea.

get battlefront 2 or something, i heard it was good...

CapNColostomy
11-05-2005, 02:04 PM
Coop mode in that game was one of the biggest gaming disapointments of the year for me.

boinga1
11-05-2005, 02:11 PM
Or get BF2, I understand it beats SWBF2 hands down.

TK-8252
11-05-2005, 03:22 PM
Or get BF2, I understand it beats SWBF2 hands down.

Quoted for truth.

Darth Groovy
11-05-2005, 06:48 PM
It's good but short, you can probably beat it in a rental period. Most rental places offer system rentals.

It won't ever come out on pc, this game was designed to be a button mashing console game. My hands cramped up big time while fighting Dooku the first time out.

Samuel Dravis
11-05-2005, 10:57 PM
It does have some sections that were based on deleted scenes from the movie though. Kind of interesting. And you get to beat down Anakin - always good right after you see the movie (which seems to get worse every time I watch it... :( ).

Lightsaberboy
11-05-2005, 11:07 PM
some of the dialouge in ep III made me cringe.

"you look beautiful"
"it's only because i'm so in love with you."
"hah. no, it's because I'M so in LOVE with YOU!"

and the multiplayer? why did they even bother.
some of the bonus stages were ok, like the yoda one. but after twirling around for a couple minutes it got boring. grevious' stage was kinda dumb too, and same with the grevious guard.

TK-8252
11-05-2005, 11:09 PM
some of the dialouge in ep III made me cringe.

"you look beautiful"
"it's only because i'm so in love with you."
"hah. no, it's because I'M so in LOVE with YOU!"

Then you better steer clear of having a girlfriend in the near future or witnessing another teen couple.

Lightsaberboy
11-05-2005, 11:10 PM
im an engineering major. i have no time for girlfriends. but a talking frog....now THAT's cool!

toms
11-07-2005, 07:49 AM
It does have some sections that were based on deleted scenes from the movie though. Kind of interesting. And you get to beat down Anakin - always good right after you see the movie (which seems to get worse every time I watch it... :( ).

That tends to happen with the prequels... ;)
:vsd:

StaffSaberist
11-07-2005, 09:02 PM
I liked Ep. III...

Samuel Dravis
11-07-2005, 10:36 PM
I do too. I saw it it the theatre and loved it, but now when I watched it the other day on DVD, many parts of it seemed...well, cheesy. It's still SW, and I'll still watch it, but...

El Sitherino
11-08-2005, 12:02 AM
many parts of it seemed...well, cheesy.

.... It's Star Wars, what the **** do you expect? Academy Award winning drama, the likes of which we'll never see again? Perhaps you're jaded by the "aw" of the OT, but it's cheesy as hell as well, infact most parts are even cheesier than the PT.

Darth Groovy
11-08-2005, 06:17 AM
.... It's Star Wars, what the **** do you expect? Academy Award winning drama, the likes of which we'll never see again? Perhaps you're jaded by the "aw" of the OT, but it's cheesy as hell as well, infact most parts are even cheesier than the PT.

Quoted for truth, and for the win. How can people expect high drama from a set of movies that were inspired by Flash Gordon serials? :confused:

StaffSaberist
11-08-2005, 09:09 AM
I thought we were SW fans in spite of that. We could say the JO love scene (Jan & Kyle) was cheesy, since it was. We could say the JK battle between Kyle and Jerec was cheesy. It was poorly animated, after all. And we could say that the JA battle between Jaden and Alora/Tavion was cheesy, since the cutscenes before that were kinda awkward:

"You were no match for me on Hoth, and now, I am a Jedi Knight."
"Tavion has taught me many things as well, you sanctimonious fool!"

Besides the insult, there was the cheesy element. And going back to JO:

"Stay away from anyone with a lightsaber."
"Good advice... Jedi."

A funny joke, but not suitable for a good love scene. ;)

And JK didn't even have a true cutscene where Kyle speaks to Jerec. The only scene we get is Kyle getting blasted by the Valley of The Jedi, which is stupid if Kyle is LS in that game. How cheesy was that? It shows how lazy the game designers were not to show them facing each other in a dramatic moment before the fight!

My point to this long post is that Ep. III can't be dissed unless you consider all of Star Wars to be cheesy. You can make a case for Kotor being cheesy, ditto for Battlefront II. Star Wars is cheesy, but what can you expect? If you want drama, watch Law and Order. ;) If you want awesome saber action... you can't get it anywhere else bar the PC or Xbox. And I know you like saber action: that's why you are registered. And moderators.

Not to diss any of you but I thought I'd mention that it doesn't matter if Ep. III is cheesy. It all is. Real life is! If all our lives were an action movie, cradle to death, how would anybody make it stop? If they were tired and needed a break, if they needed vacation, where could they find it? We'd be dooming ourselves... to death. Besides, cheesiness (cheesyness?) is funny; it gives us something to laugh at, and gives our lives dimensions we wouldn't normally have.

Prime
11-08-2005, 11:18 AM
I thought the Ep 3 game was fun, dispite its flaws. The MP dueling was well done, and can be a blast with friends. It is worth checking out.

StaffSaberist
11-08-2005, 11:26 AM
I probably will, but if what you guys say is true, I'll just go over to a friend's house that has it (if I can find a friend, I am in my computer room a lot). But now, I made myslelf hungry for cheese... :D

Samuel Dravis
11-08-2005, 01:27 PM
Quoted for truth, and for the win. How can people expect high drama from a set of movies that were inspired by Flash Gordon serials? :confused:I'm not expecting "high drama," just some reasonable things like oh, the battle droids all having the same voice. It's not like any corporation would ever pay more money so they can all have cute, individual voices. Seriously, what was the point of that?

Yes, I will expect a little better from a movie than I will a serial. I will not expect something to be the same quality simply because it was inspired by it. Many books/cartoons have been inspired by Tolkien... are many - any - of them the same quality? Since that will be attacked by saying, "The source was better, no wonder they not as good," think of any game whose sequel was better than the original. Oh, of course not, that can't happen. Just not possible. We shouldn't expect more out of anyone than done previously.

I thought we were SW fans in spite of that. We could say the JO love scene (Jan & Kyle) was cheesy, since it was. We could say the JK battle between Kyle and Jerec was cheesy. It was poorly animated, after all. And we could say that the JA battle between Jaden and Alora/Tavion was cheesy, since the cutscenes before that were kinda awkward:

"You were no match for me on Hoth, and now, I am a Jedi Knight."
"Tavion has taught me many things as well, you sanctimonious fool!"

Besides the insult, there was the cheesy element. And going back to JO:

"Stay away from anyone with a lightsaber."
"Good advice... Jedi."

A funny joke, but not suitable for a good love scene. ;)

And JK didn't even have a true cutscene where Kyle speaks to Jerec. The only scene we get is Kyle getting blasted by the Valley of The Jedi, which is stupid if Kyle is LS in that game. How cheesy was that? It shows how lazy the game designers were not to show them facing each other in a dramatic moment before the fight!We've put up with poor game dialogue etc for, well, since games started being made. Occaisionally there's a really good one, but those are the exception. :(

The questions is, do you expect more story/better dialogue/etc out of a movie, in which that's the only thing to engage your attention, than you do games?

My point to this long post is that Ep. III can't be dissed unless you consider all of Star Wars to be cheesy. You can make a case for Kotor being cheesy, ditto for Battlefront II. Star Wars is cheesy, but what can you expect? If you want drama, watch Law and Order. ;)
I do not watch Law and Order. Ugh. :D

For Battlefront, do you actually care what the story is? No. It's not a major part of the game, and doesn't need to be. That's just the kind of game it is.

For me, KotOR was more enjoyable - story wise at least - than any of the prequel movies. I did notice they did not use funny voices on their droids in a (in my case failed) quest to grab some laughs.

If you want awesome saber action... you can't get it anywhere else bar the PC or Xbox. And I know you like saber action: that's why you are registered. And moderators.Yes, I do like the games and the movies, the saber fights especially. :)

Not to diss any of you but I thought I'd mention that it doesn't matter if Ep. III is cheesy. It all is. Real life is! If all our lives were an action movie, cradle to death, how would anybody make it stop? If they were tired and needed a break, if they needed vacation, where could they find it? We'd be dooming ourselves... to death. Besides, cheesiness (cheesyness?) is funny; it gives us something to laugh at, and gives our lives dimensions we wouldn't normally have.Of course, I'll still watch it. I'm just saying I don't enjoy it as much. It was supposed to be the darkest movie in the series... IMO, it didn't suceed as well as it could have.

StaffSaberist
11-08-2005, 05:18 PM
Well, they didn't want to give kids nightmares, did they? ;)

no, I do want more than dialog, but I would like what dialog they have to be better. If you have lines, make them good, not just good enough, as my band teacher says.

Don't watch L & O? No surprise. I only know about it 'cause my parents watch it so much.

I have no complaints about the storyline. I'd just prefer the lines to be better, is all.

toms
11-09-2005, 09:41 AM
I thought we were SW fans in spite of that. We could say the JO love scene (Jan & Kyle) was cheesy, since it was. We could say the JK battle between Kyle and Jerec was cheesy. It was poorly animated, after all. And we could say that the JA battle between Jaden and Alora/Tavion was cheesy, since the cutscenes before that were kinda awkward:

I'm never a fan of something "just because". I'm a fan of something because I appreciate it's merit, or because I enjoy it. I'll overlook flaws (which are found in almost everything) if the overall experience is satisfying.

ANH had cheesy bits, but the overall impression meant that they were easy to overlook. JK was the same. (and LOTR since you brought that up).
ROTS had cheesy bits that you had to work to overlook, but in general it overcame them. They did drag the experience down a bit though. Same with JA.
TPM had so many cheesy bits that it overwhealmed whatever good there was and managed to riun your enjoyment. Same with JO (and especially the stupid "love story" bit).

StaffSaberist
11-09-2005, 10:17 AM
I'm never a fan of something "just because". I'm a fan of something because I appreciate it's merit, or because I enjoy it. I'll overlook flaws (which are found in almost everything) if the overall experience is satisfying.


No doubt. That's how all of us are fans. I never meant to say you or anybody else wasn't a fan. Is I said, we are fans even though there is cheesyness.

ANH had cheesy bits, but the overall impression meant that they were easy to overlook. JK was the same. (and LOTR since you brought that up).

I brought up Lord of the Rings? I must have been tired last night. And yes, the original trilogy was MUCH less cheesy. I wish the computer lightsabers of Ep. III could be brought into the Trilogy; I'd never watch anything else.

ROTS had cheesy bits that you had to work to overlook, but in general it overcame them. They did drag the experience down a bit though. Same with JA.

By now I overlook it automatically, but yes, you are correct. ROTS had an excellent main plot, but the side plots ruined it. Fyi, I consider the main plot to be the war and Anakin's fall. Nothing about the Senate, Padmé, or anything else. :)

TPM had so many cheesy bits that it overwhealmed whatever good there was and managed to riun your enjoyment.

It could have been cheeseless, but the actors rehearsed too well. All the lines sounded like they were rushing through memorized book lines. :p

Same with JO (and especially the stupid "love story" bit).

Please, dear god, don't even get me STARTED on JO. It has excellent animations I want for JA, and it does have a decent plot in itself (hey, it started the Reborn craze) but they wrecked it with Jan. They could have been mere buddies since Kyle's Imperial days, which they were, and left it at that. But noooo, the only way this could have been made more cheesy was if everyone wound up related. ("Kyle, I, Desann, am... your third cousin four times removed!") Oh, geez! Come on, here!

See, I do agree, I am just good at filtering the cheesiness and seeing what is good.

"There is still good... in the... JK series... I know... there is... still...*sigh*"

El Sitherino
11-09-2005, 12:40 PM
Uh... I guess we watched different OT's, but the OT has far more camp than the PT.

And Padme is directly relatable to Anakin's fall. Perhaps that's why you didn't enjoy the movies as much?

StaffSaberist
11-10-2005, 12:14 AM
Well, yes, I know that, but I liked the Anakin's fall part more than the love scenes. As lightsaberboy said:

"you look beautiful"
"it's only because i'm so in love with you."
"hah. no, it's because I'M so in LOVE with YOU!"

Eh... no thanks.

Forgive a n00b-type... thing... I'm about to say, but what do OT and PT stand for? I assume you meed Original Trilogy and Prequel Trilogy. But what do you mean by more "camp"? I liked the Original, it was cool. All I wish was to have the Ep. III sabers in Ep. IV, V, and VI. Not gonna happen, I know, but 'twould be cool. ;)

Mike Windu
11-10-2005, 12:25 AM
Am I the only one that loved the droid voices?

It was just too cute. I want a Super Battle Droid plushie. ;_;

Then again, I do watch SB.

toms
11-10-2005, 07:26 AM
Leaving aside the whole "ewoks invade ROTJ" bit, what bits in the OT are more cheesy than the PT? Out of interest.

StaffSaberist
11-10-2005, 08:33 AM
Even the Ewok invasion wasn't all that cheesy, at least they showed the Empire was not an army of pushovers. A lot of Ewoks fell in that assault, far from one-sided. Yeah, the OT was a lot better than the PT. If we could have the PT sfx in the OT, nothing could stop the OT from being the only thing I watch. But the mono sound and slow saber fx kinda hurts. Dun't flame me; I know they did the best they could for their time. :)

toms
11-10-2005, 08:46 AM
I'll grant that most stuff on endor was cheesy. Especially the "i love you" bit when leia is shot. But the banter and romance in ANH and ESB are much more realistic and believable (as far as sci-fi ever can be). I think the fact that the characters in the OT are much less serious and worthy helps, cos you can get away with cheesy lines when said in a fun way... when said seriously they become much more cheesy.

The saber fights in the OT beat anything in the PT imho - well choreographed broadsword fights, unlike the PT which has turned into wire-fu. Shame they arsed up the 5.1 remix of ANH on the DVD so the mono is the only option... ;)

As for the game, i'll pick it up if i see it dirt cheap, but at the moment i'm a small bit more interested in spotting lego star wars cheap to be honest.

StaffSaberist
11-10-2005, 09:05 AM
Actually, I said the opposite...

Even the Ewok invasion wasn't all that cheesy

Yes, the I-love-you bit was cheesy, but since most cheesy lines were said in a fun way, as you said, then it doesn't come out cheesy. Yeah, they miffed up saber fighting, I just want to see the blades themselves put in the OT, that would be awesome. But, I know that cannot happen...

The reason the PT is so darn cheesy is because the actors were hired without experience. If they had acted before, we SW fans wouldn't get the shaft. :)

toms
11-10-2005, 10:23 AM
The reason the PT is so darn cheesy is because the actors were hired without experience. If they had acted before, we SW fans wouldn't get the shaft. :)

Isn't that the wrong way around?

I notice some people actually said camp rather than cheesy, but i can't see much in either that was camp.

StaffSaberist
11-10-2005, 06:20 PM
Maybe I'm a naíve S-O-B, but what's the difference between cheesy and camp?

Samuel Dravis
11-10-2005, 06:28 PM
I'm guessing..

The term camp—normally used as an adjective, even though earliest recorded uses employed it mainly as a verb—refers to the deliberate and sophisticated use of kitsch, mawkish or corny themes and styles in art, clothing or conversation. A part of the anti-Academic defense of popular culture in the sixties, camp came to academic prominence in the eighties with the widespread adoption of the Postmodern views on art and culture. - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_%28style%29)

StaffSaberist
11-10-2005, 06:45 PM
Oh, OK. I thought it was some JK series term that Wikipedia or Encarta (my choice) wouldn't have. ;)

cafa
11-16-2005, 11:22 AM
the game its this bad?!?!? i was thinking that the game would be like a KOTOR, but with the movments of a JA, so i think ill be desapointed if i Play Episode 3.... well i dont have the console anyway, hehehe

Darth Groovy
11-16-2005, 02:05 PM
the game its this bad?!?!? i was thinking that the game would be like a KOTOR, but with the movments of a JA, so i think ill be desapointed if i Play Episode 3.... well i dont have the console anyway, hehehe

It's fun, but it's not going to have the expanded lightsaber action that was nearly perfected in Jedi Academy. And no, it's definitely not KOTOR.

StaffSaberist
11-16-2005, 06:25 PM
So, it's a cross between KotOR's graphics and a system similar to JK's saber system? lol

Darth Groovy
11-16-2005, 06:48 PM
So, it's a cross between KotOR's graphics and a system similar to JK's saber system? lol

No. More like an updated version of Jedi Power Battles.

cafa
11-17-2005, 12:38 AM
i've read good reviews on internet magazines, but none says about the 'short' duration of the game, i love big games. when i play KOTOR i play it on a Lan house (home pc ~427mhz, heheh) so i take about one week+ playing some hours day. but i know that sw movie games are shorter, the non-related movies aways are bigger, this is even on SNES and the old games...

Darth Groovy
11-17-2005, 02:28 AM
Yeah if you don't have it already, might I suggest you get Star Wars Battlefront II instead? SWBF2 is the perfect game for anybody who ever liked Star Wars AND likes playing video games. It doesn't matter if you played the first Battlefront or not, it's not really a sequal. SWBF2 just has alot more to offer than the first game does, and it IS available on the PC.

cafa
11-17-2005, 03:15 AM
hummm, i aways have SW galaxies as a 'one day ill play this one' dream... but i've look in to google images now and im intusiastic with SWBF2. this is a great game! ill find a way to play it...
[off topic]: i know its not here but... SW galaxies its cool? ist a JA MMORPG?

StaffSaberist
11-17-2005, 08:24 AM
I dunno, and I bought it! I didn't realize it was a massive multiplayer game, and don't wanna pay $30 / month. It's not worth it, IMO. And that's just the base game. *shivers*

cafa
11-17-2005, 10:12 PM
I dunno, and I bought it! I didn't realize it was a massive multiplayer game, and don't wanna pay $30 / month. It's not worth it, IMO. And that's just the base game. *shivers*
$30!! lol, its much then WoW or lineage 2... i dindt know that cost all that. i've seen some pics today on googleimages, the game sounds fun, but for nowdays MMORPG's his graphis are a little 'old'. but its still a good gae, i thing, i hope :D.

Darth Groovy
11-18-2005, 03:26 AM
No one game is worth $30/month. What kind of madness is this? Charge for a game and THEN charge another fee to play it? Worse than gambling IMO.

El Sitherino
11-18-2005, 12:10 PM
Aye, at least with gambling you can get the casino sluts and possible payback.

StaffSaberist
11-18-2005, 06:10 PM
Aye, at least with gambling you can get the casino slots and possible payback.

That's absolutely correct (After the quote edit. Before the edit... I can only wish. :D) I didn't know what I was getting in to at the time. And the game wasn't cheap, either.

Kurgan
11-18-2005, 07:51 PM
Well, alot of Star Wars is cheesy, but some parts of Star Wars is more cheesy than others.

Saying we can't criticize bad parts of the Prequels because there are "bad parts" in the OT is flawed logic. The OT need not be perfect in order for us to criticize or nitpick Episode III (or II, or I, or the entire Prequel Trilogy, or the EU, or one part of the EU, or a game, etc.).

There's all kinds of criteria for evaluating these things, including of course the all powerful "personal preference and taste." ;)

And just for a bonus glimpse into my own personal viewpoint:

Did the OT have a "Jar Jar Binks"?

Did anyone in the OT step in a pile of crap and say "Icky poo"?

Do anyone get a fart in their face and go "Pee-yewsah"?

I rest my case. ;)

StaffSaberist
11-18-2005, 08:15 PM
A valid point. But Lucas learned his lesson, and included less of him in Ep. II and III. Not trying to defend the PT no matter what, but...

You are correct. It's all cheesy. But so is Indy Jones, if you look at it, and a bunch of movies. The only thing that isn't cheesy is real life. And we are out of tune with that, I promise. ;)