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Nedak
11-24-2005, 01:31 PM
Please give me your opinions.

Darth_Terros
11-24-2005, 01:37 PM
Darth Terros!

..... oh you mean actual Sith lords um Darth bane most likely would be the greatest he pretty much saved the sith order but then it depends on what you consider the best? they all have their great points

swphreak
11-24-2005, 01:45 PM
Exar Kun would be number 1.

Darth_Terros
11-24-2005, 01:58 PM
As much as think Exar Kun is cool i dont think he is the best he didnt really do anything other sith have done before him?

Thinking about it Sidious truly was the best sith he cut down jedi masters and managed to take over an entire civilisation! he pretty much did the one thing the others couldnt RULE THE GALAXY!! he made the Sith great again after living generations in the the shadows.

Nedak
11-24-2005, 06:21 PM
But one thing that Sidious did not do is train other sith to make a more destructive army.

The Doctor
11-24-2005, 08:12 PM
The best Sith Lord is Darth Revan. He has the coolest robes, anyway.

Emperor Devon
11-24-2005, 09:08 PM
Aside from me, I'd have to say Revan. He has cool robes, controls an infinite fleet...

Commander Dorn9
11-26-2005, 02:16 PM
Darth Bane saved the sith from exstinction, so i'd have to say he restarted the cult of the sith. Darth Maul may have been a apprentice but he really rocks with his double bladed lightsaber and his acrobatic tricks. Darth Sidious, the current lord of the sith uses force lightning which is aweosome. Count Dooku, is pretty well trained in the ways of the force, able to weild a lightsaber with equisite swordmanship and able to use force lightning. General Grievous who seems sith like weilds 4 lightsabers and is a superb jedi hunter. The force is kind of not his type but since he seems sith like i'd have to say he's pretty cool and pretty sith like.

www.stronghold2.com has an aweosome game. :lsduel:

Darth_Terros
11-26-2005, 03:11 PM
www.stronghold2.com has an aweosome game. :lsduel:

What hell made you say that?

Dude stop spamming i've noticed you've done it in other threads.

General Grievous who seems sith like weilds 4 lightsabers and is a superb jedi hunter. The force is kind of not his type but since he seems sith like i'd have to say he's pretty cool and pretty sith like.

What? so the guy used a lightsaber that was the onlything sith like about him he wasnt even force sensitive, hell han used a lightsaber to cut open a taun taun does that make him jedi like?


Anyway i still think palpatine is the greatest sith he didnt even need a army of darkside users to conquer the galaxy just used his brains

Jan Gaarni
11-26-2005, 03:22 PM
Dorn9, stop with the spamming.

You've made several poorly thought out comments across Lucasforums already.
I will not warn you again.

And if you haven't already, you should really check out your PMs (which is doubtfull cause I saw you looking at your Private Message area) where you'll find warning 1 and 2.

Astrotoy7
11-27-2005, 09:52 AM
Im going with Bane too.... he had some strength of purpose. Im really looking forward to the planned novel about him :)

mtfbwya

Darth_Terros
11-27-2005, 11:28 AM
Im really looking forward to the planned novel about him :)



There is a Bane novel in the works?!?!

If true im so excited i lap up anything to do with the Sith lords and a bane book would be great!

I just hope we'll get a plagieus book someday judging by things he said well what palpatine remembers him saying in the Dark lord novel he seems he could've been a bit of a truly evil git!

CadmiumRED
12-26-2005, 02:31 PM
I would have to go with either Exar Kun or Ulic Qel-Droma. Both were awesome, and Exar Kun developed the prototype double-bladed lightsaber, the first original Sith weapon, other than those Kain swords. Also, Ulic Qel-Droma just had an awesome suit, like in my signature image.

Furball
12-26-2005, 03:05 PM
I would have to say Darth Vader. Due to his swordsmanship and his ability to strike fear into everyone who encounter him. Palpatine didnt strike as much fear as vader as he was always in his palace.

Darth_Terros
12-26-2005, 03:39 PM
Post mustafar Vader wasnt really that great a swordsman his suit really impeded his abilities over time he got used to it but was still only really just above average.

Lord Neradas
01-08-2006, 04:03 PM
Darth Sion would rise every time he falls but if his will is broken he will be weakened enough to be destroyed.
Darth Nihilus was able to feed on all life. But that is also his greatest weakness. If he used his power without feeding he would weaken alot.
Darth Revan indeed controlled an infinite armada but as you know the Star Force uses the nearby star to power itself apart from the Dark Side.If one of these sources of energy is cut-off his production would slow down.
Darth Plagues was unwise to pass all his knowedge of the Dark Side to his apprentice.And suffered for it.
Darth Sidious was overconfident.He thought he had everything under control and that his lies won't be noticed.That was his failing.
I think that there is no Best Sith Lord.They all make mistakes...as do the Jedi.

Prime
01-09-2006, 03:01 PM
Palpatine for the win!

Maphisto86
01-12-2006, 01:00 AM
Palpatine for the win!

I CONQURE my good man!!!! :smash: :lightning :cheers:

Palpatine is slick, clever, deceptive, a excellent swordsman, master of the force and great fashion sense!!! :anvil: My only complaint is that he's gets waaaaaaay too punchy during fight scenes *i.e. v.s. Yoda* Way to ruin a serious moment Geroge!

Nancy Allen``
02-16-2006, 05:32 PM
I'd have to go with Palpatine because of how evil he is.

Fealiks
02-17-2006, 07:18 PM
Exar Kun no doubt about it (start a poll!) I'd have to agree with Furball about Vader's swordsmanship but mainly in episode III. In the original trilogy he's... well... he's just crap. In episode III he is sick, as was Dooku.

Nancy Allen``
02-17-2006, 09:27 PM
As is all of them. The swordplay seen in the prequals make Luke and Vader look about as threatening as Han Solo trying to wield a lightsaber. What Aayla, Annakin, Mace, Obi Wan, ect are capeable of is crap, it's just crap that they should be able to use them like that and not cut themselves ti ribbons.

MachineCult
02-18-2006, 07:32 AM
Thats why only Jedi are meant to be able to use lightsabers, Nancy.

Nancy Allen``
02-18-2006, 07:45 AM
Yeah, keeping them out of the hands of the Sith sounds like that would be a very good idea. Same applies for Force powers.

darth fmc
03-30-2007, 03:54 PM
uuuuumm id say darth sion i mean he cant die

HK-42
03-30-2007, 05:32 PM
Revan. Case closed.

Diego Varen
03-31-2007, 09:15 AM
Let me think, so many good Sith in the Star Wars universe. My favourite one at the moment is Darth Sion.

Gargoyle King
04-07-2007, 09:50 AM
Let me think, so many good Sith in the Star Wars universe. My favourite one at the moment is Darth Sion.

Sion is pretty cool, cooler than some others from the KOTOR series such as Traya. In terms of coolness, i'd have to go for Maul myself; but for the "True Lords of the Sith" I'd say the best were probably Exar Kun, Freedon Nadd and
Marka Ragnos.

Diego Varen
04-07-2007, 12:17 PM
Sion is pretty cool, cooler than some others from the KOTOR series such as Traya. In terms of coolness, i'd have to go for Maul myself; but for the "True Lords of the Sith" I'd say the best were probably Exar Kun, Freedon Nadd and
Marka Ragnos.

I don't mind Traya to be honest and she is unique in the way that she wants to destroy the Force as a Sith, instead of creating an empire. Maul is also good and my favourite Sith in the Prequel Trilogy.

Titanius Anglesmith
04-07-2007, 01:35 PM
I'd have to go with Nihilus. I mean, how many other Sith Lords do yo know of that can eat a whole planet by himself? True, he may not have been actually considered a real Sith, but he still couldn't be defeated by anyone... ever. Except the Exile of course.

Gargoyle King
04-07-2007, 02:51 PM
I'd have to go with Nihilus. I mean, how many other Sith Lords do yo know of that can eat a whole planet by himself? True, he may not have been actually considered a real Sith, but he still couldn't be defeated by anyone... ever. Except the Exile of course.

:lol: For a minute there i'd thought you'd forgotten to mention the exile. For the record, if Nihilus could be defeated by the Exile, a 'Broken Jedi', i'm sure he would have met his downfall sooner or later. He is pretty cool though, the whole planet-eating thing is like a walking portable Death Star!

Gug Eyewalker
04-09-2007, 12:31 PM
1. Darth Sidious
2. Darth Revan
3. Darth Bane
4. Darth Traya
5. Jacen Solo (who may end up number one when legacy series plays out and he becomes a Darth, we ALL know it will happen, no spoiler here).
6. All the rest!

Darth Sidious used his genius, a political chess master - creating a win-win situation by being on both sides. He kept his friends close, and his enemies much much closer!
I think even Grand Admiral Thrawn could not match the pure genius and cunning. Sure thrawn could win in a tactical setting, but then Sidious may be able to arrange Thrawn's assasination or political destruction.

Jacen Solo though - I don;t think he has the brains of Sidious, but as far as raw power and force skills, oh boy everyone should watch out!

urluckyday
04-09-2007, 11:44 PM
Darth Sidious is the best...plain and simple.

PoiuyWired
04-10-2007, 08:56 PM
Darth Necaj-ma-i. I mean, he KNOWS about his fall,unlike his relative(s). Good or bad he deems it necessary. His love to one armed woman, and his guts on killing the offspring of some of the most dangerous sentient in the galaxy... Though I find it unbelievable that no one really notice his fall until way too late. He would choke he sweetheart to death?

Well, atually I am thinking of Revan, Bane and Krayt. Revan is tactica, powerful, though his stray away from the Sith Ways is unfortunate. Bane is, well, need I say more? Krayt, he actually reinvent the Sith Order as an Empire again, his funny looks not withstanding.

TKA-001
05-14-2007, 10:16 AM
In a one-on-one fight, I think that no other Sith Lord would stand a chance against Darth Nihilus. He would just kill the opponent instantly with the super-drain that he kills planets with.

But as far as coolness goes, I can't decide between Vader, Sidious, or Traya.

Lord XZantor
05-27-2007, 12:21 PM
I'll say from all i've read... It between Exar Kun and Jacen Solo. If you ever get a second go to wiki and cheak out Kun. Jacen,the son of Han & Leia if you didn't guess was turned. Killing the Jedi he was working with to "save" his uncle Luke. He ended up killing Boba Fett's Daughter. Yea you heard me
Boba Fett hes alive. He had some potion or something. :lsduel:

Simon92
05-28-2007, 07:18 AM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Freedon Nadd. King of Onderon, even after his death he manipulated Exar Kun to become what he was later on. Xarga the Mandalorian himself declares him worse than Malak and Revan ever were.

the_darker_one
06-02-2007, 10:29 PM
No, you are all wrong, its the evil twin of Yodaaaaaaa... not. I'd say Exile because he is the "cancer" of the force. Traya said he could destroy all existing life with the write echo.

YertyL
06-03-2007, 04:40 AM
Vader ftw! :lsduel:

CLONECOMMANDER501
06-04-2007, 06:14 PM
Well, vader was the chosen one but that doesn't mean he's the best.

Christos K
06-08-2007, 06:24 PM
I would have to say the best Sith Lords were Palapatine (Darth Sidious), Darth Bane, Exar Kun, Darth Nihilus (Nihilus rocks but I only think he had a Sith Lords name other wise he was just one thing of the sith, Evil), and Darth Revan (Conquered the galaxy, won the Mandalorian Wars, won the Jedi Civil War, and brought a Dark Side spirit back to the light side according to canon.)
1. Exar Kun tied with Darth Revan (Both started their own wars and practictly won. manipulated thousands.)
2. Darth Sidious-Palpatine and Darth Bane (Both brought back Sith or saved them. One was smart and the other strong. Too bad they wernt the same person or they would be #1 to me.)
3. Darth Nihilus (He might be one of the three of my favorite Sith but he wasnt exactly a Sith. He only used their techniques.)
4. Darth Vader (He is almost invincible. Survived several limbs being cut off and was burnt alive.)
5. Freedan Nadd (Took over a city and beet an army just with his shortsaber and blaster.
6. Darth Maul (Moved very fast and with a double bladed lightsaber.)
7. Darth Tyranus-Count Dooku (Used lots of speed when dueling. Very pride.)
8. Darth Sion (Was not the smartest of Sith Lords, very stubborn, did not give up, almost immortal, ugly.)
9. Dath Traya-Kreia (Very strong in the force, controlling, to manipulative, stubborn, full of hatred... for the force?..?..?)
10. Darth Rage (Was loyal, when he was about to die he said he worked alone.)

slornie
06-11-2007, 05:43 AM
my favourite has to be Darth Tyranus (Count Dooku), i just prefer him to the others

Windu Chi
06-11-2007, 06:56 AM
What Aayla, Annakin, Mace, Obi Wan, ect are capeable of is crap, it's just crap that they should be able to use them like that and not cut themselves ti ribbons.
What do you mean by crap, Nancy? :)

Nancy Allen``
06-11-2007, 08:38 AM
Take a toy lightsaber, most of us have done it, and swing it around like they do. Try and copy how Revan twirls his lightsaber. See if you don't hit yourself doing it. That'll be your arm if it were real.

RC-1162
06-11-2007, 01:00 PM
If you mean the stance he takes up in Revan's vision where he's confronted by Bastila, I've done that correctly. If you mean the default flourish of lightsabers, I've done that too.

I vote for Revan, since he was an amazing strategist.

Windu Chi
06-11-2007, 02:09 PM
Take a toy lightsaber, most of us have done it, and swing it around like they do. Try and copy how Revan twirls his lightsaber. See if you don't hit yourself doing it. That'll be your arm if it were real.
Well, like I told you in a PM awhile back if you remember, the Ep III game combat show better lightsaber combat motion better then the movies.
If you are refering to the combat in the Knights of the Old Republic game, of course the lightsaber combat in that game was crap.
But in relation to the Ep III game I practice doing some of the lightsaber motions with long slender sticks, like I told you in a PM awhile back the part of the stick I don't cover as the handle hilt I pretend is the blade of a lightsaber; so I practice to not ever touch the simulated blade part.

And I have gotten really good at it Nancy. :)
But after long trials of trial and error.
I use some of the lightsaber combat in Ep III, to teach myself real sword fighting skills and tactics; well the combat in the game is so well done, Nancy. ;)
You should reconsider playing the game; Ep III: ROTS. :)

On the topic:
I think Kreia is the best sith; her wisdom and manipulation skills are unmatched.
She really had piss me off when she betrayed me in KOTOR II: The Sith Lords.

adamqd
06-11-2007, 06:15 PM
I don't particularly like her, and her "light whip" should stay in Johnny mnemonic, but Lumiya is the best Sith IMHO, she kept the Sith alive for nearly 40 years after Palpatine forgot to turn off his pet cyborg while attempting to fry Luke, and if that's not enough she (spoiler) secretly trained the future leader of the Jedi to be the Dark lord of the Sith in her place! thats good going if you ask me

TKA-001
06-16-2007, 05:52 PM
10. Darth Rage (Was loyal, when he was about to die he said he worked alone.)
Who is "Darth Rage"??

Sabretooth
06-17-2007, 12:38 AM
My favourite is Exar Kun because of his coolness, followed by Darth Revan and then Darth Sidious.

Titanius Anglesmith
06-17-2007, 03:39 AM
Who is "Darth Rage"??
Some goon made up by S**** S*****, therefore he is not real or considered part of canon. According to SS, he became Darth Sidious' padawan after Darth Maul died, but was later killed by Plo Koon. But of course, most of us here know that that's just a bunch of bull ****.

swphreak
06-19-2007, 09:30 AM
But in relation to the Ep III game I practice doing some of the lightsaber motions with long slender sticks, like I told you in a PM awhile back the part of the stick I don't cover as the handle hilt I pretend is the blade of a lightsaber; so I practice to not ever touch the simulated blade part.

And I have gotten really good at it Nancy. :)
But after long trials of trial and error.


To actually simulate a lightsaber, you'd need to chop off the blade part of the sword and twirl the handle. As far as I know, light doesn't weigh anything.


Who said the S-word!?

Windu Chi
06-19-2007, 09:59 AM
As far as I know, light doesn't weigh anything.

Well, I pretend the blade part is made of gas of ionize magnetize plasma that weigh 1 lb. or 2 lb. :)

Is what I think a real lightsaber blade will be made of, since as far as we know light don't clash and clang when it come in contact with light. ;)

Pho3nix
06-19-2007, 11:27 AM
I always had the impression that the lightsaber is difficult to handle and weighs quite a lot simply because of the amount of energy that is projected through the hilt.

I'm probably wrong though.

adamqd
06-20-2007, 05:59 AM
^^^
During the Making of the OT GL told Mark Hamill to act as if the light saber were heavy as hell, Like a broadsword. But then in the PT it is said that a light saber is hard to judge because the blade is weightless.... So I suppose we can believe what we want.

PoiuyWired
06-20-2007, 11:36 AM
The Heavy As Hell comment is done to simulate a certain fighting style perhaps? I mean, Mark is definitely not a good martial artist, far from it actually.

adamqd
06-20-2007, 01:06 PM
The Heavy As Hell comment is done to simulate a certain fighting style perhaps? I mean, Mark is definitely not a good martial artist, far from it actually.

I'm assuming when Mark say's "how heavy are these thing george?", and george say's "Heavy as hell .... Like a Broadsword", he's refering to the weight.
I think Mark Hamill did an awesome job with the fight scenes actually.

Mindtwistah
06-23-2007, 07:38 AM
Darth Vader in full strenght.

PoiuyWired
06-23-2007, 10:57 AM
Darth Caedus(or whatever name he is)?
I mean, he is able to prosibly take down an emperor's hand with ease?

Jediknight1818
06-26-2007, 10:29 PM
Come on, DarthMaul is the best. Has nobody read Shadow Hunter or Saboteur. Besides you have got to be good to use the twin-bladed saber.

Nancy Allen``
06-26-2007, 10:31 PM
Maul? Know what I like about him?

"What could you possibly hate enough for you to defeat me?"
"Meself."

Pho3nix
06-27-2007, 08:21 AM
"What could you possibly hate enough for you to defeat me?"
"Meself."

That was actually Darth Vader's comment to Darth Mauls' doppelgänger when he stabbed himself through the chest hitting Maul as well. I don't think It's canon.

http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/d/d9/Vadermauls.JPG

Nancy Allen``
06-27-2007, 07:47 PM
Regardless it gives great insight to Vader's self hatred, over Padme. Another bit with him in his meditation chamber confirms it.

LordSerion
08-09-2007, 11:52 AM
I agree with Darth_Terros. All of them had good points.

darth kav
08-09-2007, 03:13 PM
darth kav is the best............messin i would say i have two darth vader and freedom nadd

DK

PoiuyWired
08-09-2007, 07:49 PM
I agree with Darth_Terros. All of them had good points.

Trust me, Some of them Darths are just crappy... Darth Bandon...

The Source
08-19-2007, 07:05 PM
I still hold Vader as the best "Lord of the Sith". There are not many novels based upon Vader's life. Vader was in control of one of the most powerful weapons ever known. If he wanted to kill off his enemies, he had the power and opportunity to do so. "Shadows of the Empire" is a prime example. The only problem is that he felt restrained by depression and guilt. Thus, his emotions made him weak, so that the Emporer could control him. If her didn't have any restraints, I think Vader would have done some serious damage.

YertyL
08-20-2007, 08:37 AM
I still hold Vader as the best "Lord of the Sith". There are not many novels based upon Vader's life. Vader was in control of one of the most powerful weapons ever known. If he wanted to kill off his enemies, he had the power and opportunity to do so. "Shadows of the Empire" is a prime example. The only problem is that he felt restrained by depression and guilt. Thus, his emotions made him weak, so that the Emporer could control him. If her didn't have any restraints, I think Vader would have done some serious damage.
Aaaah! At last someone who doesn't cling to the "Vader didn't overthrow the Emperor because the loss of legs makes one weaker in the Force" theory! Finally! :p

EDIT: And yes, I know it's the "official" explanation - but IMO it's still lame (as hell) :D

tulakhordpwns
08-20-2007, 04:02 PM
Caedus is my favorite. I also like Darth Bane.

BigMike322
08-30-2007, 09:28 PM
My first choice is Revan. I'd also like to mention Naga Sadow, not saying he is the best but he was responsible for bringing the Sith back into Republic Space. Yes it was dumb luck, but he definetly has his spot in history. Exar Kun is probably my #2 just because I love that era.

Jvstice
08-30-2007, 10:18 PM
Ajunta Pall. He founded the Sith, and as a result without him, there would be no Sith.

BigMike322
09-02-2007, 02:35 PM
Good point.

Sephira
09-03-2007, 02:23 AM
Palpatine was stated by the ancient sith to be the greatest sith lord

Sephira
09-03-2007, 02:25 AM
That was actually Darth Vader's comment to Darth Mauls' doppelgänger when he stabbed himself through the chest hitting Maul as well. I don't think It's canon.

http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/d/d9/Vadermauls.JPG

It is canon apparantly. The visual guide and the new essential chronology confirms this

TripHammer
09-05-2007, 09:40 AM
Palpatine. He kept the rise of the Sith hidden from the Jedi until it was too late for them to do anything about it. A Sith Lord becomes Chancellor and the Jedi don't see it coming? That's not an easy task, and to me is an example of his power.

BigMike322
09-05-2007, 08:11 PM
I think that it's more an example of intelligence/conning/politics. But definetly some major brain power.

Dessel001
09-06-2007, 10:58 PM
I'm in the begining of the Darth Bane Path of Destruction novel and I would say he had the greatest aclomplishment of any sith lord. I mean stoping the
sith from falling and setting out one of their greatest traditons is hard to top.

BigMike322
09-08-2007, 11:42 AM
I need to read that.

Rogue Warrior
09-18-2007, 06:23 AM
The best Sith Lord is a sabered Sith Lord. Eagerly waiting to see Jaina skewer one.

Ztalker
09-19-2007, 01:56 PM
Darth Nihilus...is it wasn't for his crappy appearance in the Kotor 2 game.
Why?

1. He is strong enough to keep a ship from falling apart
2. Drain Life on planetary scale?
3. He uses a very cool saber stance.
4. The Mask and looks make him cool.
5. He's immortal (sort of). Darth Krayt asked him how he attached his soul to his armor.
6. Come on...you liked the way he talked...admit it! :xp:
7. He destroyed a huge group of Jedi at Katarr?

Rev7
09-22-2007, 01:24 AM
Ajunta Pall didn't "form" the Sith. He was just a jedi that had fallen. The sith WERE a species, not anymore (unless there is something we don't know) otherwise the Sith is just a ideal.

No one is the best, no one is perfect, one one great powerful figure rises( then loses his/her power or is destroyed by it ) another one ALWAYS rises. It is just a circle.

PoiuyWired
09-22-2007, 03:23 PM
Ajunta Pall brings the gift of the Force to the Sith Species, on top of shagging many many Sith femaleoid. Many of the Force Sensative Siths carry the blood of the origingal Dark Jedis.

DarthExile27
09-22-2007, 03:44 PM
Now that I finished reading Path of Destruction, I have to say Darth Bane is the greatest Sith Lord of all time. Not only was he a great duelist he was also a great manipulator, he also made the sith stronger by restricting their numbers.

Rev7
09-26-2007, 11:29 PM
Ajunta Pall brings the gift of the Force to the Sith Species, on top of shagging many many Sith femaleoid. Many of the Force Sensative Siths carry the blood of the origingal Dark Jedis.


The "original" Sith as a species were already a species that practiced the force

DarthSomething
10-25-2007, 08:34 PM
Darth Nihilus not only looked cool, but the stronger his opponent was in the Force, the stronger he would get. He would have eaten Sidious and Bane for breakfast, then have been powerful enough to conquer the galaxy.

Malak and Krayt were strong enough to control legions of Sith, the latter recognizing the flaw in the Rule of Two (the Redemption factor).

Traya, Revan, and Sidious made the mistake of underestimating their apprentices, and that paid greatly for it. They were probably the smartest Sith though. Bane appears to be the shrewdest.

PoiuyWired
10-27-2007, 04:13 AM
Nihilus cannot and do not conquer the galaxy, he eats.

Bass Patriot
10-27-2007, 04:55 AM
I would have to say Darth Maul. Not only is he in the 1st movie of the star wars series... he had cool tattoos and a double sided lightsaber.

DarthSomething
10-27-2007, 06:39 PM
I would have to say Darth Maul. Not only is he in the 1st movie of the star wars series... he had cool tattoos and a double sided lightsaber.

Maul is like Sion, good at killing Jedi, but seeming to lack any greater ambition beyond that. Cool characters, but ultimately brutes with little interest in things like Galactic conquest (Malak, Exar Kun) or the greater mysteries of the Dark Side (Bane, Sidious).

Does the fact that Malak seized the mantle of Dark Lord by striking at Revan from afar count against him? That may not be very brave, but it was smart.

Rev7
10-27-2007, 07:27 PM
That may not be very brave, but it was smart

Sadly, I have to agree with that. Malak was the main character in KotOR I, but I don't think that he was a very good Sith Lord. He really was only a brute, as mentioned before, and not a very good leader. I think that he only did what he feeled like, when he feeled like it. IMO, of course.

PoiuyWired
10-28-2007, 02:18 PM
I would say that Malak is a step better than the average brute/Sith-marauder type. He definitely enjoys brute force tactics, and prefer smashing his way thru things most of the time, but he does have the smarts (even if it is limited) to sieze oppertunities when there is one, and his battle tactics is at least reasonable to be able wield the Sith Empire and continue the conquest.

The typical brute type would be like Maul (though he can be reasonably sneaky) and Sion (ultra brute with ability to boot)

Discussion on idology like "rule of two/one" aside I think a good sithlord would be something like Bane, Vader, Exar Kun, or Krayt. Its a reasonable mix between manupilation, tactics, brute force, and deadlyness on his own.

spawn613
10-30-2007, 08:01 PM
my big toe is the best. his name is Darth...

... Toe.

Jvstice
10-30-2007, 08:21 PM
Darth Traya / Kreia

Marius Fett
12-01-2007, 04:12 PM
Revan all the way......

DarthMelissa
07-22-2008, 04:37 AM
I would say Darth Nihilus. He embodied wha the dark side truly is-power without longetivity.

noizer
07-22-2008, 12:08 PM
darth sidious for sure. lets face it, the man is the dark side hero of all times.

TheSithEmperor
10-23-2008, 10:54 PM
Darth Nihilus in my opinion, What a bad ass suit! Killing entire planets yes please?:D

A Galaxy Foreseen
10-24-2008, 12:24 AM
Darth Plagueis. Able to cheat death and make new life from the midi-chlorians. Awesome.

Fredi
10-24-2008, 12:31 AM
Hmmm is a good question. The most successful Sith would be Darth Sidious but the best Sith of all provably Darth Bane or Darth Revan.

hhunter6
10-24-2008, 10:28 AM
Darth Bane hands down is top dog on the pile. And in close second is Sidious. those two were the most elusive and manipulative Sith Lords. To make others destroy themselves and them not even know it, is the pure power.

Ultimate Vader
10-24-2008, 11:59 AM
1.Sidious (master manipulator, greatest of all Sith Lords, rule the Galaxy)
2.Vader (80% of Sidious, very close, only restricted by his mind and his suit)
3.Bane (Djem So master, powerful force user, save the Sith from destruction)
4.Revan (cool robe, a great tactician, a great leader, although he left his campaign)

Those are the greatest Sith Lord ever, judging from what they do to the galaxy, their abilities, their coolness, etc.

Nihilus is an evil dying-beast. Nothing more, nothing less. Powerful, but he's no Sith Lord. He cared nothing for the Sith, or its teaching. How can someone be considered a great Sith Lord if he cares nothing to the Sith?

Sion is a brute. Immortal beast, but not very smart. There are some ways capable of destroying him.

Maul is Sion without scars and immortality. Although he's more badass than Windu, IMO.

Traya is a manipulative witch, but has a strange view about the Force. She said we're puppet of the Force, but IMO she never truly understand the dark side. We use the force like we want if we're dark-siders.

GwannaSauna
10-31-2008, 07:54 PM
Exar Kun and Darth Nihilus.

Darth Sion... I would've chose him if he weren't... so mentally retarded... poor guy couldn't even figure out what 2+2 was... ...bleh... :barf:

PoiuyWired
11-04-2008, 02:38 PM
Exar Kun and Darth Nihilus.

Darth Sion... I would've chose him if he weren't... so mentally retarded... poor guy couldn't even figure out what 2+2 was... ...bleh... :barf:

And I have a feeling he maybe some trustfund baby or something... :D

Darth_Xavior
11-06-2008, 06:47 PM
Darth Bane. He STARTED the rule of two and brought down a whole army of "Sith" by himself.

Blix
11-10-2008, 05:43 PM
Count Dooku/Darth Tyranus' abilities impressed me quite a bit, but I found Darth Vader (before Mustafar) to be a better Sith.

Lord Foley
01-02-2009, 02:43 PM
Vader would have been the most powerful Sith ever, had Obi-Wan not completely rocked his *** before he could reach his full potential.

I can't stand Bane. Maybe it's just because that book was written so poorly, but I find him completely one dimensional and worthless.

I would have to say that straight up Force Power wise, Darth Caedus was the strongest. Don't get me wrong, though. Legacy of the Force was terrible.

Fredi
01-04-2009, 12:42 PM
Darth Plagueis. Able to cheat death and make new life from the midi-chlorians. Awesome.

Well the thing is my friend we don't know if that's real or a lie that Sidious said to catch Anakin's attention. There only 3 that I know of that had been able to this, Andeddu,Darth Sion and I belive Nihilus was able to maintain his body on a some-sort of armor too using the force, they are the only 3 that can cheat death (That we have proof of).

CommanderQ
01-04-2009, 01:10 PM
Well, Plagueis did discover the path of immortality, but he could not become immortal in the force, he discovered that only a Jedi was able to transform themselves into the force due to their light-sided capabilities that the Sith could not have {Which means that because a Sith is greedy or power-hungry and not kind and filled-with good deeds, that Sith could not become immortal}

However, if the Sith's spirit was extremely evil, then the spirit could preserve itself until finding someone to reanimate into {Like the second Emperor Palpatine problem, and how Nihilus transformed himself into a small hologram, preserving him}

adamqd
01-04-2009, 05:00 PM
Karness Muur! have you seen this dudes feats? although not exactly immortality he got chops :) and one of the original Dark Jedi who first encountered Sith species and declared himself Sith Lord to boot

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Karness_Muur

Fredi
01-04-2009, 09:32 PM
Karness Muur! have you seen this dudes feats? although not exactly immortality he got chops :) and one of the original Dark Jedi who first encountered Sith species and declared himself Sith Lord to boot

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Karness_Muur

Yup, he appears on Legacy. Creepy dude if you ask me. lol

adamqd
01-05-2009, 04:52 AM
He's better in Rebellion because Dustin Weaver drew him :) but yea, when I first saw him in KotOR Comics Vector arc it was sweet, have you seen the panels of him at the Battle of Corbos? awesome

Fredi
01-05-2009, 02:06 PM
Looks nice, looks like he used a yellow lightsaber in that time.

Zwier Zak
01-11-2009, 01:44 PM
Post mustafar Vader wasnt really that great a swordsman his suit really impeded his abilities over time he got used to it but was still only really just above average.

He was great. You just have to forget all the prequel trilogy nonsens. Real duels look much like the ones in TOT.

The_Dark_Jedi_Malaka
04-22-2009, 12:47 PM
I'm torn between Revan and and his apprentice Malak.

I mean, who else would cut out their apprentice's jaw? =]

But of course, the whole jaw-less thing looks pretty creepy and intimidating..

[the look on the one sith captain's face during the cutscene in K1 is priceless!]

I'd have to say in the end, Revan tops out, because Revan's fighting style is amazing, and he's amazing with tactics. Plus, his robe is quite nice. [I'm looking to either make or buy one for myself]

CommanderQ
04-22-2009, 01:23 PM
Revan is a being of pure awesomeness indeed, complete with jaw-chopping action:D

LordOfTheFish
04-22-2009, 02:28 PM
^He is most certainly not.

No man nor creature alike will ever defeat the evil "Lord Dark Helmet!"

Seikan
04-23-2009, 07:42 PM
Well, George said that sidious was the powerful sith ever, so thats a G-cannon information, so he's the stronger.

But he was not the better "Sith" he maintain Vader in a relative weakness, to keep the power in to his hands, and at last he destroy the siths, Vader turn agains him and he had become the last sith alive, and death.

There only 3 that I know of that had been able to this, Andeddu,Darth Sion and I belive Nihilus was able to maintain his body on a some-sort of armor too using the force, they are the only 3 that can cheat death (That we have proof of).

There is a Sith emperor survivor of the great war of the hyperspace who cheat the death and still alive for thousands years, he attack the republic 300 years after the jedi civil war, and was the Emperor of the "true siths" that Kreia talk about in TSL.

CommanderQ
04-23-2009, 07:51 PM
^He is most certainly not.

No man nor creature alike will ever defeat the evil "Lord Dark Helmet!"

Psh....no match for YOGURT!:D He finds Shwartz rings in cereal boxes he's so awesome!:D

Te Je'karta Mand'alor
05-09-2009, 12:25 AM
this is not scavangerman this is his friend my fav sith has to be Exar Kun and bane

Te Je'karta Mand'alor
06-02-2009, 11:53 AM
nobody's mentioned Naga Sadow... he's the one who built the sith order. before him there were only dark jetti. and darth bane restored it. them and exar kun are the best.
:ewok:

Fredi
06-02-2009, 02:44 PM
Naga Sadow was a powerful sith, but I don't think he was the strongest, I mean he did fail trying to the Republic, Something that Sidious achieve, but we need to understand he did not had the type of technology the Republic had, Still, he would not be my choice if I where to pick.

Darth Zavier
06-18-2009, 02:00 AM
I agree with Bass Patriot, Darth Maul is the best: 1. he had the most brutal training (if you search him on wikipedia, you can find this info.) 2. the only character in the SW movies to have a 2-bladed lightsaber. 3. best lightsaber combat skills

Note that these are opinions.