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Darth_Terros
12-02-2005, 10:37 AM
Well the titles been announced its ok nothing great :( would've liked it more if it had a Dark Lord title like the vader book Dark Lord:Path of Destruction sounds pretty awesome and they couldve written other books on other dark lords with the same prefix*?*.

Anyway i'll deffinately be buying this! its set just before the battle of ruusan by the looks of things.

CLICK! (http://www.starwars.com/eu/lit/novel/news20051130.html)

Astrotoy7
12-03-2005, 09:20 AM
awesomez.... Bane is easily my fave sith lord. Truly a man with a vision and strength of purpose, as opposed to palpatine who was just greedy and power hungry, and vader who was the sucka that followed him :)

mtfbwya

swphreak
12-03-2005, 09:49 AM
It looks interesting. I'll be sure to pick it up when it comes out on paperback. I just loathe hardcovers.

Darth_Terros
12-03-2005, 01:26 PM
Why do you loathe hardbacks Phreak?

I prefer them dont know why they just look better i guess.

And yeah i agree with you Astro, Bane really is everything a Dark Lord of the Sith should be!

SirLancelot
12-03-2005, 08:35 PM
Sounds like an interesting read. I have always wanted to know more about Darth Bane.

swphreak
12-04-2005, 12:25 PM
Why do you loathe hardbacks Phreak?

I prefer them dont know why they just look better i guess.

[Off-topic]
Rogue Planet

Hardcover:
352 pages
9.5 x 6.4 x 1.2 inches
1.4 pounds

Paperback:
352 pages
6.9 x 4.2 x 1.0 inches
5.8 ounces

Yeah... paperback all the way.[/Off-topic]

Astrotoy7
12-09-2005, 06:32 AM
plus hardbacks are up to TWICE the cost of a pb :( I hate em too !

mtfbwya

Prime
12-09-2005, 11:34 AM
Finally some Old Republic era stuff. :)

El Sitherino
12-09-2005, 11:42 AM
Finally some Old Republic era stuff. :)
^ Agreed.

Darth_Terros
12-11-2005, 12:24 PM
plus hardbacks are up to TWICE the cost of a pb :( I hate em too !

mtfbwya

Ah i rarely buy many hardbacks unless its something i'm really looking forward to then i dont see the problem in it plus they are just more aesthetically pleasing in my eyes.

I know for a fact the bane book will deffinately be a hardback buy for me.

Astrotoy7
05-28-2006, 06:08 PM
OK! This is starting to look great :) This is one book I am *really* looking forward to.

Release date: Sept 26 !

Like the cover :)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0345477367.01._SS500_SCLZZZZZZZ_V54155807_.jpg

*Thread Stickied*

mtfbwya

Darth_Terros
05-29-2006, 04:14 AM
So there about a few different images of Darth bane now i wonder which one is the cannon him? I'm guessing the JvS comic version as its the only one he looks most human.

My Faviourite Bane (kind of reminds me of M.bison)
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/6785/bane156ty.jpg

Darth Toad
http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/1112/banesabre8aj.jpg

Um purple Bane?
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5062/darthbane16he.jpg

Probably my second favourite
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9533/gamer3bane0fw.jpg

Prime
05-29-2006, 02:05 PM
Um purple Bane?
http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5062/darthbane16he.jpgPlease, not this one!

Samnmax221
05-30-2006, 12:42 AM
Ancient stuff really doesn't make it into novels often does it

Captain-Panaka7
05-30-2006, 12:15 PM
[Off Topic but I really want to know]

what kind of species he is?

Darth_Terros
05-30-2006, 12:41 PM
He's human.

Captain-Panaka7
05-30-2006, 01:00 PM
he must of fallen to the dark side badly to look like that

Darth_Terros
05-30-2006, 01:06 PM
I think its more to do that only recently it was really announced he was a human so before they drew him more alien and weird looking im hoping some serious retconning is ahead.

Captain-Panaka7
05-30-2006, 01:07 PM
Yeah! really

Samnmax221
05-30-2006, 04:28 PM
No consistency, how typical

Astrotoy7
05-31-2006, 07:43 AM
I think its more to do that only recently it was really announced he was a human so before they drew him more alien and weird looking im hoping some serious retconning is ahead.

Lolz. The most valid source for Bane info is the TPM Novelisation. It comes closest to G level canon, being derived from GL's story for TPM. It does not clarify the species IIRC.

Once again, its the freakin IDIOTS at Dark Horse that turn interesting SW characters into pec and crotch bulging supervillains in loud colorful costumes. This is the reason why "restconning" then takes place, to account for their stupid idioms. Then we have various madmen complaining that EU needs to be restarted because "too much retconning" is going on. Dont restart lit-EU, restart comics EU is a much better way of addressing this issue...

*moves for a vote of no confidence on Comics EU* :p

mtfbwya

Darth_Terros
05-31-2006, 11:30 AM
woah woah woah! easy now astro i think alot of great stuff has come from the comics when a lot of not so great stuff has come from the books

i really think the marvel comics should be ignored some of those were just silly.

Prime
05-31-2006, 03:30 PM
I still say the comics are the best source of clone wars EU...

Astrotoy7
06-01-2006, 06:37 AM
I still say the comics are the best source of clone wars EU...

lolz..they are almost the only source of CW EU !!! The CW era books were lacklustre to say the least...and dont get me started on the series(as entertaining as it sorta was :) )

The CW was a charade, not really a war of ideals at all, we all know that. Why GL wants to revisit it in CGI is a bit baffling :(

mtfbwya

Davinq
07-28-2006, 05:02 PM
Finally some Old Republic era stuff. :)
Yeah, Most of the Old Republic stuff is just comic books anyway. :sithk:

schwager
08-06-2006, 01:00 AM
Hmmm, I thought James Luceno was selected to pen this one...better off that he's not, anyhow. Look's cool, though. I'll have to pick up a copy.

Darth_Terros
08-07-2006, 04:21 PM
Hmmm, I thought James Luceno was selected to pen this one...better off that he's not, anyhow. Look's cool, though. I'll have to pick up a copy.

He's doing the Darth Plagueis book.

I think its a shame he isnt doing this one too as Luceno is probably one of the best Star Wars EU writers out there.

Astrotoy7
09-19-2006, 12:51 PM
He's doing the Darth Plagueis book.

I think its a shame he isnt doing this one too as Luceno is probably one of the best Star Wars EU writers out there.

indeed. Luceno and Stover have taken SW EU beyond movie rehashes,warlords, grand admirals and crappy superweapons.

Now with the LOTF series, EU seems to have found a new spring in its step... with the Bane & Plagueis books being irresistible to any SW fan interested in the sith :) can wait for the Bane/Plagueis books....wonder if there was anyone in between ???

mtfbwya

Prime
09-19-2006, 04:12 PM
Now with the LOTF series, EU seems to have found a new spring in its step... Ironically by going back to its roots. :)

Darth_Terros
09-26-2006, 01:16 PM
Well got my copy today :D cant wat to start reading it!

Prime
09-26-2006, 02:20 PM
Let us know how it is!

Darth_Terros
09-26-2006, 04:35 PM
Amazing! well ok not amazing but its been pretty damn good im on page 107 and found it really hard to put it down Darth bane is rapidly becoming my favourite sith! god theres so much good bits but i dont want to spoil it it!

The Source
10-02-2006, 10:29 AM
I just started to read this book. I find it kind of interesting, but I haven't read too far.

Palpatine_dc
10-13-2006, 05:09 PM
I just finished it yesterday, and I think it's one of the best EU books I have read so far. Bane's fall to the Dark Side is much more thought out then b.e. Anakin's. I always had found Anakin's turn a little abrupt, while Bane's fall is more slowly, and considering his 'luck' through the novel much more natural.
Characterisation is good; in the DH comic Bane is more of a supervillain, while the novel shows a more human side of the legendary Sith Lord.
A definite bonus is the fact that events and characters from the KotOR video game play a significant role in the novel, I'd even say for KotOR fans this is a must have.

A couple of highlights:

Bane's tutilage under the holocron of Dath Revan and the explenation for him taking on a Darth title.

Dessel/Bane his life as a sith trooper, altough a short part in the novel, is very nice, especially his 'Force Sniping' a Republic outpost

Bane's training also shows why and how he acquired his preference for stealth and deciet, and its incorporation into his Sith teachings.



Some minor bad points:

At a certain point the novel indicates the Republic still uses the 'Hammerhead' capital ships, athough the novel is set 3000 years later. I know in the Star Wars technology doesn't take giant leaps ahead, but this is IMHO a little over the top.

Another point is sometimes the author's over-relience on KotOr based material. Example: 2 Selkath jedi are killed, and it looks like they were only mentioned, just to include the Selkath and Manaan references. Off course the author is a member of the BioWare team that developed KotOR, so it's understandable he falls back to his known Star Wars base.

All in all a very good read. :smash:

Char Ell
10-17-2006, 10:49 PM
I'll definitely pick this book up once it is released in paperback at the end of June 2007, if only to read how elements of KotOR are incorporated into it. I'm also interested how it will address the Sith "Rule of Two."

RC-1162
10-18-2006, 01:29 AM
dang! this book sounds awesome and it was released on my birthday. wuda made the best gift too :D
im not very entusiastic about hardcovers, so ill wait for the paperback and get it over amazon.

swphreak
11-27-2006, 09:54 PM
Just finished this earlier today, went ahead and bought hardback - $15 isn't bad for hardback.

I really enjoyed most of the book, but I didn't like the parts that took place on Ruusan. I've already read about it in the Jedi vs Sith comic, and it feels like the author just copied and pasted from it. I'd rather he went on and wrote about post thought bomb stuff. Perhaps some Bane teaching Zannah stuff?

I'd give it a 3.5 out of 5 because of too much Jedi vs Sith comic.

Redtech
11-30-2006, 07:54 AM
Well I found it fun. Always great to have Revan making a comeback.

Prime
11-30-2006, 12:57 PM
I'd give it a 3.5 out of 5 because of too much Jedi vs Sith comic.Was it pretty much a "word for word" copy from the comic or from different viewpoints, etc.?

swphreak
11-30-2006, 01:50 PM
It was mostly from Bane's perspective. There's some Githany and Kaan moments as well. The comic was... the comic perspective, can't remember, I think it mostly focused on the Brotherhood.

It's not like the book takes place entirely on Ruusan, just near the end. I would have been alright with it if there were some post-Ruusan stuff. What happened? Yeah, he makes the Rule of Two and goes into hiding, but what else happens?

Prime
12-01-2006, 11:30 AM
So not anything post-Ruusan that we don't already know. That is a bit disappointing...

SithStarSlayer
12-01-2006, 12:10 PM
Was it pretty much a "word for word" copy from the comic or from different viewpoints, etc.?


You hit the nail squarely on the head. I went into this 'reading' thinking that I would finally get an awesome Sith Novel. Aside from his early life on Kessel and all the Kotor retcons that Drew could muster, very little brand-new material was presented. This isn't to say it was a waste; rather, it is to say how much more the book could have been. There was alot left undiscovered.


Personally, I think it was done just to lead us into another Bane novel.
That being said, I bought the Novel and it was good enough to read in one day.

I loved the irony that was implied by the Revan retcons most of all.
PM for me details.

Diego Varen
12-01-2006, 02:49 PM
I like the look of the book. Hopefully, I'll get the book for Christmas.

Hayden Kered
12-03-2006, 12:38 AM
You hit the nail squarely on the head. I went into this 'reading' thinking that I would finally get an awesome Sith Novel. Aside from his early life on Kessel and all the Kotor retcons that Drew could muster, very little brand-new material was presented. This isn't to say it was a waste; rather, it is to say how much more the book could have been. There was alot left undiscovered.

Yeah, I thought the book would at least go beyond Ruusan, at least a couple of chapters. It would have been nice to find out more, but maybe that'll be in a new book.

SithStarSlayer
12-05-2006, 06:06 PM
Me too. I was hoping for more regarding Zannah, and to see where Bane decided to base his operations from. Smart marketing, if you ask me. Leave us hanging and we'll buy the sequel...

splintercell56
02-28-2007, 12:53 AM
Just picked up the book today and read the whole thing. It was amazing, tho more so probably because I never read the comic version? But then again I prefer books, only question is will their be a sequel or is that just conjecture as of now?

I will say it was a lot better then the new Legacy of the Force book series. Is it just me or did the New Jedi Order ruin star wars?

Char Ell
07-03-2007, 01:55 AM
I picked up the paperback version of Path of Destruction last week. Definitely an enjoyable read and I look forward to the sequel whenever it comes out on paperback. I thought Mr. Karpyshyn did an excellent job of showing us how Dessel became Darth Bane.

I didn't like how the author portrayed Bane relying on Darth Revan for so much info. Revan's time was almost 3,000 years prior to Bane coming onto the scene. What about all the other Sith Lords that had to have existed in that time period? None of them left any holocrons for future Sith to find?

Also, the bit about Darth Revan coming up with the idea for the Rule of Two, one to embody the power and the other to crave it, didn't sit right with me. If Revan came up with the idea then why didn't he implement it himself? In spite of what I didn't like, I thought the book was pretty good. I like most of what Mr. Karpyshyn did to preserve the essence of the Jedi vs. Sith story but IMO he painted a more realistic picture of events instead of holding fast to the cartoonish excesses presented in the comic book version.

Mr. Karpyshyn actually took the time to address some of the criticism leveled at his Darth Bane novel on his starwars.com blog (http://blogs.starwars.com/DrewK/2). In the blog post he does apologize for his mistaken PoD reference to Vaapad. :D

adamqd
07-03-2007, 01:14 PM
He painted a more realistic picture of events instead of holding fast to the cartoonish excesses presented in the comic book version

Thats the reason I enjoyed the Novel, I can't stand the comic, for the simple fact it's more like Narnia than Star Wars, with the half man half beast Lord Valanthyne(sp), and the giant green sperm! Ridiculous :)

HK-42
07-18-2007, 11:21 AM
I havent seen it posted here yet so just to say a sequel to this book is coming out this year.:D

"Shelly called me late last week to propose an additional hardcover this fall. THIS fall. Yep. Del Rey figured the market could bear one more, and since the Darth Bane novel was a hit, a follow-up, written by Drew, seemed the best idea. So the untitled Feb. 09 hardcover (previously the "Plagueis" novel) has been moved up, and Drew agreed to continue Bane's story. So we're off and running."
―Sue Rostoni on the Bane Sequel[src] December 26, 2007

The Source
08-18-2007, 06:00 PM
I know I'm late to the party, but I just started to read this book. Within the first nine chapters, I found a mess of grammar issues. Since my sister is a English Professor, I thought I would have her read through a few chapters. I thought I was seeing things, so I called in the troops and heavy armor. I was completely right. His writting level is around the seventh grade. If you pay close attention to his writting, he does not understand how to use F. A. N. B. O. Y. S.. Second he goes on for several lines without any punctuation, which results in run-on sentences. Even though I personally have grammar issues, I have good editors on standby. Someone really needs to hold Del Ray responsible for producing this crap.

Enough of the bashing. After reading through the first nine chapters, I did like the story's direction. I want to find out more about Bane's Sith Trooper experiences. I have never read the comicbooks, so I'm very new to this story. Up until the exitance of KotOR, I didn't know that Bane had existed. I do like Bane's inward struggles, and I hope the writter continues to explore the character's cognitions.

Char Ell
08-19-2007, 12:32 PM
I havent seen it posted here yet so just to say a sequel to this book is coming out this year.:D Really? I started a separate thread about it on 2007 June 22. ;)
Darth Bane sequel coming in December 2007
Within the first nine chapters, I found a mess of grammar issues... His writting level is around the seventh grade... Someone really needs to hold Del Ray responsible for producing this crap. I guess my reading level must be around the 7th grade level because I don't recall having many concerns about grammar. Remember you're talking about the guy that was the lead writer for KotOR. IMO the story flowed well and if I found grammar problems that would have adversely impacted the story flow for me. I do recall one spelling error but I forgot what page it was on.

The Source
08-19-2007, 05:54 PM
When punctuation is not used correctly, the intent of the sentence is changed.

Dessel001
09-06-2007, 10:12 PM
I'm really getting into this book. Unlike many sith lords I have seen Bane is
not hollow at all. He is a deep character with his own motives. One of my favorite parts of the book is where Dessel has that argument with the republic cammander and their are so many different points of view that
I never took into thinking. I used to think jedi are good sith are evil simple as that but now, the book has me questioning what I used to think and I love books like that.

DarthExile27
09-19-2007, 12:54 AM
I'm really getting into this book. Unlike many sith lords I have seen Bane is
not hollow at all. He is a deep character with his own motives. One of my favorite parts of the book is where Dessel has that argument with the republic cammander and their are so many different points of view that
I never took into thinking. I used to think jedi are good sith are evil simple as that but now, the book has me questioning what I used to think and I love books like that.

I agree he's a deep and well thought out character, I find myself rooting for him most of the way. He went through so much crap in his life and then became a true Dark Lord of the Sith. Also I never really liked the whole darkside of the force, but this book has made me rethink my whole perspective on the Sith.

SithStarSlayer
05-27-2008, 09:36 PM
Any word on third novel in this series?

Ali1392
05-28-2008, 08:10 AM
none that ive seen but the second one was good esspecially the changes that you can see from Zannah thoughout the book

Serpentine Cougar
05-29-2008, 12:20 AM
I thought it was just supposed to be a duology; it fits in nicely with the "Rule of Two," don't you think? I haven't read them but I plan to someday soon! Drew Karpyshyn and John Jude Palencar FTW.

Char Ell
05-29-2008, 10:05 AM
People can read Mr. Karpyshyn's thoughts on the possibility of a third Darth Bane novel on his starwars.com blog (http://blogs.starwars.com/DrewK/14)
Q: Any plans for another Bane novel?
A: I'd love to do a third Bane novel. However, there are no official plans yet. Ultimately that decision is made by Lucas and Random House/Del Rey, based on their publishing schedule. From the sales of the first two novels I'm pretty confident they'll want to do another, but for now I just have to cross my fingers and wait.

The Source
06-15-2008, 09:37 PM
Since I have never read any other sources, I think this could become a really cool series. Darth Zannah's beginnings were pretty impressive. If they expand on Zannah's story, I think she has the ability to remove Mara Jade as my all time favorite. I recommend this series to anyone.

M@RS
06-16-2008, 12:38 AM
What as a fanfic, or another amazing book by Timothy Zahn?