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Darth_Death
01-06-2006, 06:50 PM
I dunno about any one else but i shure lke to remake the last 3 movies. they were good and all but with the new technology they could be awesome

MachineCult
01-06-2006, 08:55 PM
No, no remakes, touch up the space battles and the duels for sure they suck compared to the prequels but you can't remake the whole trilogy. It ain't right.

Darth_Death
01-06-2006, 10:56 PM
no i think they should remake the trilogy . they will always be classic but they suck compared to the third and so on

MachineCult
01-08-2006, 03:49 PM
They do suck, but remakes wouldn't be Star Wars, so drop it.

Darth_Death
01-08-2006, 04:22 PM
They do suck, but remakes wouldn't be Star Wars, so drop it.


ya i guess ur right



just wondring how did u get that picture on ur signiture

MachineCult
01-08-2006, 10:13 PM
My specific picture? TBH I don't remember how you put pictures in your sig i think its the tags around the URL.

Kurgan
01-08-2006, 10:39 PM
I disagree, the fight between Vader and Luke in ROTJ is awesome. The sabers sound so big and powerful and look awesome (at least before the screw ups of the official DVD set by Lowry Digital), not like the wimpy sounding sabers of ROTS. Even though the sabers in ROTS are colorful and shimmery, and have little pointy ends, they clash with a little stingy sound and barely hum when swung (you have to really crank your sound system to hear them). In ROTJ they clash like heavy broadswords and sound like amazing weapons. Sabers hum and really draw your attention like the ancient weapons of the mystical warriors they were always meant to be.

The space battle in ROTJ blows away everything else, period. I don't care if the battle shown in ROTS is bigger. The fact is we see less of it, it's all just a big confusing jumble of effects, and most of it is distracted by buzz droids and R2-D2 beeping. In ROTJ we can follow most of what is going on, there's an immediacy to the actions of the participants.. it's a desperate death struggle, not just two friends cracking jokes while getting slightly annoyed by some droids.

So despite the superior effects of the prequels (and I will admit that the TPM duel still tops all the other saber fights in terms of sheer coolness), I wouldn't ever say that the originals "suck" compared to the Prequels. The prequels are strongly lacking in the space battle department, and while the battle in TPM seemed perhaps the most believable (as a Star Wars fight), despite lacking dialouge, the OT continues to hold its own, special edition or not. What the Prequels do well is showing us realistic looking droids, large crowds and expansive vistas on populated planets (think Coruscant). It's also good for portraying large ground battles and nice looking ships. But effects come secondary to character development, interaction and storytelling, which I think the classic movies still have in abundance over and above the originals.

That isn't to say that remakes of the classic trilogy wouldn't be interesting, but it seems that Lucas prefers to tweak his old films and to many folks such a thing would be blasphemous (unless it was done 20 years from now or something). Even if such remakes were decently done with good acting, they'd never achieve the acclaim and long-term appeal of the originals.

Darth_Death
01-08-2006, 10:58 PM
ok how bout i say tweak some of the movie (graphics) not remake

Darth MarcII
01-09-2006, 09:59 AM
The tweaked some of the graphics in the DVD release of the OT, as well as adding extra footage.

I think the OT should remain, basically, as it is.

PoiuyWired
01-11-2006, 07:09 PM
Well, Greedo DOES NOT shoot first...

Well, I do think things like Recoloring the lightsabers would be nice, but apart from that, no remake.

MachineCult
01-11-2006, 07:14 PM
Don't talk about Greedo... Jesus that mask looked terrible, you can buy a latex Greedo mask for £25 that looks better than the ANH Greedo.

Commander Obi-Wan
01-12-2006, 02:01 PM
I would like them to touch up on the OT, since they technology is much better. But, they should remake the whole OT.

PoiuyWired
01-12-2006, 05:35 PM
they also need to add a scene while JarJar surrers a slow and painful death that drags on over the three ep of OT...

General Solo
01-19-2006, 12:11 AM
they also need to add a scene while JarJar surrers a slow and painful death that drags on over the three ep of OT...

ahuh, maybe they sould remake the ships and fighters and clones. But the trilogy's right now are sweet and it doesn't really matter to me if they do any more changes. It is fine how it is.

The Source
01-25-2006, 08:49 PM
I dunno about any one else but i shure lke to remake the last 3 movies. they were good and all but with the new technology they could be awesome
Uh?!?!? How old are you?

I admit the new technology would be cool in the Original Trilogy; however, they are pure classics now. I would not watch a revamped version of the original Star Wars. No way man!

Let me guess... You were born some time after 1985?

MachineCult
01-26-2006, 10:55 AM
I was born after 1985 and I think Darth_Deaths comment was ridiculous, at the most they could redo parts of the space battles, the explosions, blaster and lightsaber affects, but nothing more than that.
I would also like to know how old Darth_Death is.

Justus
01-30-2006, 04:25 PM
No more revamps to the OT. They've done far too much to them already, some not so great (Greedo shooting first, the new dialog between Vader and the Emperor in ESB, the Bring my Shuttle line being redone, Hayden taken Sebastian's place in the ghost scene in ROTJ, to name a few.) I think they should just leave them be. I still prefer the original trilogy over the revamped SE's.

The lightsaber duel in ESB is still bar none the best duel in the entire Star Wars saga - the prequel duels are all nice and flashy, but the ESB duel is powerful on so many levels.

I don't have much of a problem of the technology from the PT to the OT, I usually just write it off as the galaxy in a complete decline because of the Empire, and to show you a sharp contrast from the Republic era, and the Imperial era, and naturally the rebels are going to have the bottom of the barrel technology anyway. The grittiness of the OT is what originally drew me to Star Wars to begin with.

MachineCult
01-30-2006, 05:08 PM
I think that the ESB and ROTJ duels are good even when compared to PT duels, you have to bear in mind that Luke isn't a Jedi, he had nowhere near the amount of training as the real Jedi.

I think that the TPM and ROTS duels are also very powerful, TPM because it was the first time we saw what the Jedi Knights who were the "Guardians of peace and justice in the old Republic" could really do, and then the death of Qui-gon. and ROTS for obvious reasons.

Answer this though, what is the worst duel of the entire Star Wars saga? That is the only full scene in the OT that I would like to be redone.
No offence intended but I believe that it is just sentiment, Justus.

Justus
01-30-2006, 07:57 PM
The worst duel in the saga would be Episode II, Dooku and Anakin. But I think that had more to do with editing than anything else. I admit the ANH duel is pretty rough, but as Lucas put it, it's between a cripple and an old man - plus the technology wasn't really invented yet to have a better duel. However, it is powerful now in it's own right - Obi-Wan and Vader's first confrontation since Mustafar, really good stuff from a story telling perspective.

ESB duel is really good, well choreographed and how Luke goes from fighting his enemy to realizing he was fighting his father and not knowing exactly what to do with the information.

RoTJ duel isn't nearly as good, but it seems Lucas was wanting to focus on other aspects rather than another long drawn out lightsaber duel, plus there was alot of other things going on that needed to fit in for the conclusion

Perhaps it is sentiment, but I am an avid Star Wars fan of all the movies - prequels, the OT, and I even enjoy alot of th EU.

MachineCult
01-30-2006, 08:08 PM
The worst duel in the saga would be Episode II, Dooku and Anakin. But I think that had more to do with editing than anything else. I admit the ANH duel is pretty rough, but as Lucas put it, it's between a cripple and an old man - plus the technology wasn't really invented yet to have a better duel. However, it is powerful now in it's own right - Obi-Wan and Vader's first confrontation since Mustafar, really good stuff from a story telling perspective.
Episode IIs duel is the worst in the PT IMO, but the ANH duel is just poor, by far the worst out of any, Darth Vader is hardly a cripple (as seen in the ESB and ROTJ duels) and Obi-wan is in his 50's. There is no explanation for the atrociousness of the duel within Star Wars, it's simply the filmmakers fault. (Technology isn't anything to do with it really.)

RoTJ duel isn't nearly as good, but it seems Lucas was wanting to focus on other aspects rather than another long drawn out lightsaber duel, plus there was alot of other things going on that needed to fit in for the conclusion.
The end of the duel had an ESB kind of feel to it, but with the roles reversed, just before Luke cut off Vaders hand was very powerful.

Perhaps it is sentiment, but I am an avid Star Wars fan of all the movies - prequels, the OT, and I even enjoy alot of the EU.
As do I.

popcorn2008
01-30-2006, 08:29 PM
Maybe small touch ups would be a nice addition to the OT, but I don't think a remake is in order at all. They are classics, of course.

By touch ups I dont mean total revamped scenes however :D Just small additions here and there.

Anyways, though one could also interpret it as the Empire had slowed down the pregression of technology and may have even reversed it. I like the light saber battles as well, as they show us that really there are no true swordsmen around at that time. The space battle in ROTJ isn't that bad, it looks great to me still.

Overall, I say dont remake. Maybe a few touch ups, though nothing too big.

Commander Obi-Wan
01-30-2006, 08:43 PM
Agreed. I think some touch-ups should be added. Maybe when the 3-D versions are out.....that'll happen.

MachineCult
01-30-2006, 08:47 PM
I agree popcorn2008, explosion, lightsaber and blaster effects. Technology wouldn't have progressed at all in the space of 20 years. At the time of the movies Hyperspace travel had existed for 25,000 years and technology is the same 4,000 years before the movies (KotOR), so technology isn't an issue really.
and the ROTJ space battle is great.

(Look Commander >1,000 posts!!)

Master Dakari
02-21-2006, 10:33 PM
Remakes of the OT are not going to happen. But if they did, I would kindly beg LucasFilm to force George Lucas from the director's seat and hire different people. I think that is why ESB and RoTJ turned out as good as they did; they weren't directed by Lucas. I can give him his props that his story, and the universe he has created, is great. But he is just not a good director.

I do not want remakes, but this is what I would want:

Digitally replaced lightsaber blades = the lightsabers in the PT are so much cleaner and vibrant. Change Anakin's lightsaber's ANH blade back to BLUE while aboard the Falcon. It was not green. RoTJ lightsaber blades were horrid after the "re-mastery". Vader's blade, in the Death Star duel, had a pinkish-reddish core and a red aura. The animators who did this fudged up big time. Come on, people. Lightsabers have a solid white core with a colored aura.
Remove the digital Jabba from AHN = It just doesn't add up to the puppet. The puppet was more real.
Remove Hayden and put Sebastian back = Lucas explained why he did this, but it is not a valid excuse. When Vader was redeemed, he was then a true Jedi once again. He died, in his present physical state, as a Jedi. Therefore, Sebastian makes more sense, and is who the majority of fans want.
Use digital Force Lightning = Replace the RoTJ animated lightning with digital lightning. The digital looks more like actual lightning, and it lines up better with what was seen in the PT.
Block Force Lightning = In the novelization - and original script - of RoTJ, Luke blocked Palpatine's barrage of Force Lightning with his bare hands, for a short while, before it overtook him. If they use awesome digital stunt-doubles to incorporate this in-film, it would be a testament to not only Luke's strength with the Force (which is never really evident on film), and to Yoda's teachings. It was Yoda who taught this to Luke in the first place. Even with the little time they spent together, Luke progressed in way it took the Jedi of old to do in years. That would really come out and shine in this scene.
Enhanced Space Battles = Replace the ships with digital models, but leave everything else the exact same. Maybe add more models, explosions, and whatnot to "fill it out", but that's it.
Enhanced ANH duel = Okay, Lucas's excuse about "a cripple and an old man" go out of the window (completely and utterly) when you see the PT with Yoda, Dooku, and Palpatine. They were all old men, and Yoda would probably be counted as a cripple as well (he's almost 900 years old). Yet they were all added by the Force, as is everyone Force user who duels against another. If they were able to keep the original footage, but mingle it with new scenes with 'not over-the-top' digital stunt-doubles of Vader and Obi-Wan ... and do it right and realistically ... then the duel could so much better.

I'm sure many here with disagree with most of the things I said. But that's just the nature of opinions. Everybody has them and I can't force mine on you, or vice versa. I just wanted to say what I thought could enhance the OT without taking anything away. But all in all, I do like the OT far better then the PT. Sure, they both have their great stories, but what sets the two apart is the acting quality and direction. The PT is found wanting in both of those departments.

Darth Macca
02-22-2006, 08:55 AM
I'd like to see them remade. The special effects will add a different dimension to them. The duels will be a lot faster and better...but I can't see it happening unfortunatly.

boinga1
02-22-2006, 09:21 PM
I could accept most of what Master Dakari said. That's about the maximum that I'd like to see added or altered. In fact, I would have preferred that the OT sabers not be altered (with the exception of some of the really bad shots in ANH). I'd also like some consistancy to Jabba, since he looks different in all three films. Definitely, I want Hayden out of ROTJ. It doesn't make any sense, and is just a lame tie-in to the new movies.

jake123456
02-28-2006, 11:50 PM
NO REMAKES of the original trilogy. Maybe it is a godd idea to remake the space battles and so on, but original trilogy with different actors will loose its meaning, it will no longer be star wars.

Point Man
03-20-2006, 12:42 AM
If they remade the OT, I don't know if I would see them. Well, okay, I would see them just because they would be Star Wars. However, even if they look better, there is no way they could have the same impact. I remember how that first jump to hyperspace made everyone in the theatre gasp.

Formsvacka
07-01-2007, 08:43 AM
First of all, I want to make it perfectly clear that I do not want them to remake the OT. I think it's gotten a bit out of hand with remaking movies and digital enhancement and such (for more on this topic, I can recommend the South Park episode "Free Hat"). Anyway...
*Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan. McGregor's performance in RotS was awesome, and making an actor looking 20 years older isn't really an issue nowadays.
*Someone tall (doesn't really matter,) as Darth Vader, with James Earl Jones doing the voice and Hayden Christensen as the redeemed Anakin Skywalker. They could probably fix his looks with some make-up, as well.
*Why not Peter Mayhew as Chewbacca? Just like with Vader, it doesn't really matter who they put in the suit. But why not Mr. Mayhew?
*Wayne Pygram made an appearance as Wilhuff Tarkin in RotS, so why not keep him?
*Temuera Morrison as Boba Fett.
*Voices for Yoda (done with CGI) and C-3PO by Frank Oz and Anthony Daniels, respectively.
But there my imagination comes to a halt. Who to play the Skywalker twins, and Han Solo, and Lando Calrissian? The only idea I've had that I think is anything else but completely stupid is to cast Christian "Batman" Bale as Han Solo. However, there is now a technique called digital skin-grafting, which can make people look younger. And that raises the question whether they shouldn't use Harrison Ford for the remake as well. And then you start thinking about Mark Hamill, Carrie Fischer and Billy Dee Williams, but I think I would prefer someone new for a remake. And thus, Christian Bale is the only suggestion I have. Any other ideas?

PoiuyWired
07-01-2007, 04:08 PM
Well, they need someone to be Mara for that 2 second scene in Jabba's Palace. Maybe, a cameo of Karrde? And they might want to give the ewoks slightly better weaponary. Maybe more effective traps. Oh, NO GUNGANS. Oh who should be Wedge?

Quanon
07-03-2007, 01:54 PM
Maybe they should do it completly in CGI : they have the tech and skill .

IF they're quick about it they can scan all the orginal characters faces : clean them up a little : do some make-overs to make them look 20 again . They already used this technique in Ep III for the older actors action scéne's .

I'm sure Lucas can pull that one off : look at the new films . Most of the filming was done on green stages . They still could use motion capture techniques to , to make the animations look smooth and realistic .

Like this I would give the remakes a chance to be good enough to look at .

Henz
07-04-2007, 12:59 PM
I'd actually be more interested in remakes of the prequels lol.

But I like the idea of adding more touch ups to be honest. Some nice inter-cutting between original close-ups and new CG jedi fighting in the Ben/Vadar duel would be greatly appreciated. The fight sucked cause George had a much different and more boring idea of the lightsaber duel. It changed. Bout time the awful fight changed too.
I don't carry the leave them alone mentality; especially on Star Wars. They're just a bit of fun. Also, another release may correct the issues they had with the official DVDs the first time around.

CLONECOMMANDER501
07-13-2007, 11:49 AM
Ben was an old man and Vader was a stiff robot, you can't expect to be like yoda when it comes to fighting.

Exile Joey
07-13-2007, 01:58 PM
I have to agree with Henz. They were old, ya, but they acted like they had never used a lightsaber before. They may as well have just put to old guys poking eachother with their canes. It was sad. And Bens saber looked white. That was annoying.

PoiuyWired
07-13-2007, 07:37 PM
Well, lets hope that han shoots first yet again this time.

If anything though, A unified saber color would be nice, not the bad clear up where the same lightsaber have 3214243 different tones which changes from scene to scene.

I would with that they keep the Boink on stomie's head, and the gunless stormie though.