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Nancy Allen``
01-28-2006, 10:58 PM
I was going through the wave files and found some where Juhani goes off about Canderous. How do I activate this conversation in game?

Shem
01-28-2006, 11:05 PM
I was going through the wave files and found some where Juhani goes off about Canderous. How do I activate this conversation in game?

Where did you find the files? What was the name of the folder and I can tell you where it should spawn.

Nancy Allen``
01-28-2006, 11:44 PM
I can do that too, but it seems to be her whole speech package. For what it's worth the file path is C:\Program Files\LucasArts\SWKotOR\streamwaves\m35aa\juha11. There's actually quite a few discussions there that I haven't seen (one example is her being fearful of being on a Sith ship, the Leviathan I take it, which is technically impossible as you are stuck with Bastila and Carth), and I'm sure the same would be true for the others.

Shem
01-28-2006, 11:54 PM
For what it's worth the file path is C:\Program Files\LucasArts\SWKotOR\streamwaves\m35aa\juha11.

That would be Korriban at the Sith Academy Entrance.

Melly
01-29-2006, 07:37 PM
The reason that there is so much cut content of Juhani's dialogs is because she was completely removed from the game at one point. And then implimented back in at the last minute because removing her left huge plot holes.

Originally you were able to ask Juhani why she was wary/doesn't like Canderous and she would give the speech you heard in the dialog files. You can't really fault Juhani for hating Canderous as his people did destroy Cathar and drove her family to that cesspool of a planet, Taris

MachineCult
01-29-2006, 08:04 PM
I removed Juhani from the game, I killed her on our first meeting because I believed that is what I was supposed to do... lol, did I miss anything? I didn't notice any plot holes because of it, Melly...

Nancy Allen``
01-29-2006, 10:25 PM
You can't really fault Juhani for hating Canderous as his people did destroy Cathar and drove her family to that cesspool of a planet, Taris

Who could? Most of the characters get a rough trot but Juhani is among the worst victimised. Now that she mentions it, I don't know why I can't get rid of Canderous either. From his leachery in the Twi'lek slave quarters to his bloodthirsty nature, he's not my idea of a good companion, and his evil change when you go to the dark side, frightening.

I removed Juhani from the game, I killed her on our first meeting because I believed that is what I was supposed to do... lol, did I miss anything? I didn't notice any plot holes because of it, Melly...

If you're playing as female Revan, you can have a romance with Juhani. There is also a sidequest where a Mandalorian sought to wipe out all the Cathar and take Juhani as a slave. Apart from that there's really her backstory.

Lantzen
01-30-2006, 04:43 AM
There is a mod that restore Juhanis dialougs about Canderous, but i can't remeber the name.

Shem
01-30-2006, 01:46 PM
There is a mod that restore Juhanis dialougs about Canderous, but i can't remeber the name.
REALLY??? If you ever run across, let me know where it is.

stoffe
01-30-2006, 03:19 PM
REALLY??? If you ever run across, let me know where it is.

If I remember correctly that, along with some other dialog, is already present in Juhani's dialog file, it just has a conditional script set that causes it to not show up in-game.

I think these (attached) changed scripts, if put in override, will allow some of her extra dialog to show, such as talk about Canderous and ability to ask her about any planet you happen to be on. (It's been a while since I played KotOR1 though so I may have overlooked something, but I think I got all of them.)

MachineCult
01-30-2006, 04:36 PM
If you're playing as female Revan, you can have a romance with Juhani. There is also a sidequest where a Mandalorian sought to wipe out all the Cathar and take Juhani as a slave. Apart from that there's really her backstory.
Wow, this game has everything.

PoiuyWired
01-31-2006, 03:52 PM
Too bad none of which appears in kotor2, not even a kiss scene.

zadi
02-04-2006, 12:44 AM
Too bad none of which appears in kotor2, not even a kiss scene.

Heh - true the only one who gets a romance is the male Exile and even that is a rip since you don't even get a kiss like in the first game!

Shem
02-04-2006, 03:19 PM
I think these (attached) changed scripts, if put in override, will allow some of her extra dialog to show, such as talk about Canderous and ability to ask her about any planet you happen to be on. (It's been a while since I played KotOR1 though so I may have overlooked something, but I think I got all of them.)
Thanks Stoffe. :)

Melly
02-04-2006, 04:11 PM
I removed Juhani from the game, I killed her on our first meeting because I believed that is what I was supposed to do... lol, did I miss anything? I didn't notice any plot holes because of it, Melly...

Yes but they removed her completely from the game, which means that the quest to go find her in the grove was not complete. Also in her not being there kills the Carth romance, when you choose the lightside ending at the temple summit, because her dialogue is the one that triggers Carth's love confession on the beach. So it might not have matter to some, but us lady gamers would have been severely disappointed.

PazaakPrincess
03-09-2006, 02:32 PM
omg the horror, I am so glad I never killed her!

Non-false Jedi
03-09-2006, 03:54 PM
I found the dialogue files but it says there is an error and it has an "incorrect duration"

whats that mean? is it possible for me to listen to it?

Nancy Allen``
03-09-2006, 03:58 PM
Try getting Media Player Classic and then drop and drag the dialogue files onto it.

JediMaster12
03-09-2006, 05:09 PM
I did get a mod that restored the dialogue options for Juhani but I can't remember where I got them from. After I installed them I left the game for a few days and when I played again, I was shocked at the new dialogue. I vaguely remember getting it from PCGameMods for any who want to look for it.

mjpb3
03-09-2006, 05:20 PM
I think the mod in question is the Allronix Dialog Pack:

http://www.pcgamemods.com/mod/11504.html

The Juhani stuff is great, but I ran across a few bugs in convos with Mission and Bastila on the temple summit. But other than those, this is a really good mod to have :)

TheGreenGoblin
03-09-2006, 06:10 PM
^^^

Hmm, that mod looks interesting, does all the new dialogue have sound?

mjpb3
03-09-2006, 08:48 PM
Not all of it.

TSR
03-13-2006, 05:13 AM
What actually happens with the mandalore that wants juahni as a slave? i had him meet me on korriban, and he says that he will have her as a slave. so where does he actually try to catch her? i cant find it anywhere!

Nancy Allen``
03-13-2006, 07:02 AM
Take Juhani to Manaan and do what you like there. Enter the swoop race, investigate the Sunrey murder, take up or collect on a Genohaden assasination, ect, and when you've finished warp back. Xor and a pair of Selkath thugs will ambush you, and after going through the dialogue I'm sure Juhani is just killed if you don't fight. Beat him and Xor will taunt Juhani by saying how he slaughtered the Cathar homeworld, about killing her father on Taris. He's trying to make her give into her hatred and kill him, it's his means of revenge having her fall to the dark side. You can encourage her to do so, or if not she pleads with you to help her resist the temptation, and Xor dies anyway. Later Juhani is upset that she didn't kill him, but realises it was wrong to do and laments on having to forever deny herself. If you do have her kill Xor she will say that as justified as it was she feels bad about it.

Rogue15
03-13-2006, 10:12 AM
it's sweet.....if you kill juhani in the beginning when u face her, later on her friend turns to the dark side and comes after you seeking revenge!!!

Lantzen
03-13-2006, 11:12 AM
She dont come after you, you meet her at Korriban. And at my first playthrogh i killed Juhani and i didnt notice any plot holes, that mod also restore some conversation at the Levithan that is bugged so the game can crash, thats why i deleted it.

dewayne26
04-21-2006, 03:10 PM
Who could? Most of the characters get a rough trot but Juhani is among the worst victimised. Now that she mentions it, I don't know why I can't get rid of Canderous either. From his leachery in the Twi'lek slave quarters to his bloodthirsty nature, he's not my idea of a good companion, and his evil change when you go to the dark side, frightening.



If you're playing as female Revan, you can have a romance with Juhani. There is also a sidequest where a Mandalorian sought to wipe out all the Cathar and take Juhani as a slave. Apart from that there's really her backstory.

i think you can have a rmance wih as male to i don't remember been awhile since i've played

JediMaster12
04-21-2006, 04:48 PM
It works both ways but Juhani is a bit partial to the female, hence her friend Belaya. :D

TSR
04-22-2006, 06:25 AM
thus, once again, proving the desperate romantic state the game designers have found themselves in...