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Klia
02-01-2006, 06:37 PM
I know that some of the older members here have lightly discussed what they think is Raz's past. However we haven't really delved too deeply into it and now that we have a few new members new theories may pop up.

A few things to think of:

1.The curse on Raz's family
2.Other family members beside his dad
3. The spooky man

DarthAve
02-01-2006, 07:41 PM
Hmm, maybe we musl stalk Tim to get answers....he does know all about everything. He even knows my true spy name.

KingCheez
02-01-2006, 09:06 PM
Raz's Origins?

When a man and a woman love eachother VERRY MU-
*BAN!*

DarthAve
02-01-2006, 09:37 PM
hahahahaha

~silence~

That was a stupid one Cheez, but still we already know....

Raz was born to a family of circus freaks.
He was psychic, and he got that from his dad's side of the family.
Raz was cursed.
Raz's father hates psychic.
Raz found out about WR from a pamphlet given to him from a mysterious moustashed man(Freddy Murcury??)
Raz ran away.

Odd
02-01-2006, 10:27 PM
I've always wondered about that stuff myself. Raz also seems to be the only (human) character without a last name.. Aside from Sheegor, I think.

kaecla
02-01-2006, 10:44 PM
About Raz's father not liking psychics;

Didn't his dad say that he had nothing against psychics at the end of the Meat Circus?

KingCheez
02-01-2006, 11:15 PM
Yes, kaecla, he did. Use spoiler tags, not white text.

Mashi An'krekku
02-02-2006, 04:43 PM
I've always wondered about that stuff myself. Raz also seems to be the only (human) character without a last name.. Aside from Sheegor, I think.

He actually DOES have a last name.

Aquato! O:

Sheegor is still a...no.

Odd
02-02-2006, 05:39 PM
Really? When is that mentioned? Oo Or did you just make that up? XD
Sheegor is just... Sheegor. :D

Mashi An'krekku
02-02-2006, 05:53 PM
Really? When is that mentioned? Oo Or did you just make that up? XD
Sheegor is just... Sheegor. :D

Someone told me...and I believed them. And it made since.

And it RHYMES. With...Zanotto. AND Loboto.
I'd quote Gwen, but you'd all look at me funny if I mention Loboto being a godfather.

Megan
02-02-2006, 08:20 PM
I think the Aquato name came from those posters inside the caravan in the Meat Circus level, right?

Smon
02-02-2006, 08:59 PM
I think the Aquato name came from those posters inside the caravan in the Meat Circus level, right?
Indeed.

DarthAve
02-02-2006, 09:10 PM
Exactamundo! But still, who is the mysterious moustashed man who turned raz on to Wispering Rock Psychic Summer Camp? (Freddie Murcury????? Perhaps)

nutmeg1992
02-03-2006, 05:57 AM
I know who it is it's oly look really close at the picture and then think about the plot.

Odd
02-03-2006, 04:17 PM
I don't think it's Oly.. He didn't even want Raz in the camp until he made his speech about the ad.

Megan
02-03-2006, 05:35 PM
I never noticed a moustached man. I'll have to look closer when I get home.

nutmeg1992
02-03-2006, 06:31 PM
But just thunk about it! the picture shows a mysterious man he has a long Mustache and oly has a mustache.

Odd
02-03-2006, 06:40 PM
It could be someone we hadn't met in the game. Maybe a former Psychonaut? Or Ford? I think he has a Mustache, just not a long one.
Well, maybe not since he loses his mind when he leaves the cave. XD;

kaecla
02-03-2006, 07:38 PM
KingCheez - So there is a way to do that. Thanks, but which button is that? I can't seem to find one, but that's probably just me.

Klia
02-03-2006, 07:41 PM
I think the Aquato name came from those posters inside the caravan in the Meat Circus level, right?

Yes and the speculation comes from the fact that the Aquatos are doing a swinging act like Raz's family does.

Also it's morbid irony as his family is cursed if they touch the water.

EDIT:

About Ford being the moustached man...it is possible. He does change personalities when he leaves camp..and he is tall. However it's pretty unlikely as he wouldn't take that chance.

Perhaps the psychic community is larger than we thought and a psychic out of the camp recruited Raz as he knew his potential?

nutmeg1992
02-03-2006, 11:34 PM
but wasn't oly planing to take all the childrens brains? come on think about oly did say he had plans for that brain. and they were planing it from the start so it must be him.
and ford's mustache isn't that big.
I'v seen the picture and it does look like him.

Klia
02-04-2006, 01:01 PM
As the years progressed, he became painfully aware that his gift was becoming a curse. His father hated him and shunned him, and his mother wouldn't go anywhere near him. Trying to kill off his own son, his father forced him to practice acrobatics all day. Raz even fell off the highwire once because he was so tired, but his father would not be moved. He trained the rest of the day with a broken arm.

His parents didn't ever come off across as that mean. Sure his father wasn't the most supportive but it seemed more like a misuderstanding on both of their parts.

It was this event, losing his son, that finally broke the wall of hate in his father's mind and caused him to puruse Raz. In the Meat Circus, he says he didn't hate psychics, and I don't believe this is true. I think that as he watched his son grow in power and save the world from domination, he grew to accept them, and in doing so, could finally accept his own son. So I think Raz was the one who taught his father something, not vice-versa.
I also have to disagree. His father didn't know what was happening in Raz's mind as shown by his suprise at looking at his alter self. He was just trying to help Raz. Besides Raz could not have beaten the problems without his father's strength which was a lot more powerful than Raz's.

needlewarbler
02-04-2006, 05:36 PM
I think that Razputins father was more afraid of what people would think if they found out that he and his family were psychics. As shown by Bobby Zilch, people don't exactly think highly of the circus and if they though that razputin and his father were psychic, then they would become outcasts. I also find it strange in the Meat Circus when Raz's dad says that he copes with the curse by being an acrobat. I guess that Raz takes the curse more to heart than his father does...

DarthAve
02-04-2006, 05:44 PM
Moustashed Man=Ghost of Freddie Murcury.

Duh!

All dead rock stars want young psychics to persue their dreams, since they persued their dreams of becoming rock stars!

nutmeg1992
02-05-2006, 05:49 AM
do you think raz is an only child? maybe if he is the only reason his dad comes down on him so hard is because hes his only son. :)

Klia
02-05-2006, 08:30 AM
do you think raz is an only child? maybe if he is the only reason his dad comes down on him so hard is because hes his only son. :)
If you look at the memory, it seems that he is not a single child if we interpret the people in the back to be his family.

Odd
02-05-2006, 12:05 PM
Could be cousins. Not just direct family. Who knows?

DarthAve
02-05-2006, 02:28 PM
Hmm, you have a point Odd, maybe aunt's and uncles of Raz died in some kind of accident, and the kids went to live in the circus with Uncle 'Demitri'.

Odd
02-05-2006, 03:17 PM
XD I mean that it could be his whole family. Including the aunts and uncles.

Or just stalker kids. All the kids who ran to the circus while Raz is original and runs from the circus. WOOT.

DarthAve
02-05-2006, 04:17 PM
Yeeeeeah, Raz could have been famous for his circus act and the kids are fanchildren, wanting ot be with Raz.

Megan
02-05-2006, 05:28 PM
He mentioned having a sister, but I'm not sure if he was serious or not.

DarthAve
02-05-2006, 05:31 PM
Where did he say that?

Odd
02-05-2006, 05:40 PM
When he was insulting Frankie and Kittie after they were rude to him. Something like "My sister is really fat and needs new clothes, where did you get yours?"
Not worded exactly, but along those lines.

It was in front of the main lodge, when they were making best friend bracelets.

DarthAve
02-05-2006, 05:42 PM
Oh, I remember now. Thanks Odd!

Odd
02-05-2006, 05:44 PM
Hmmhmm. Welcome.

As for the fanchildren; I WANNA JOIN IN TOO! :D

DarthAve
02-05-2006, 05:54 PM
hae fun at the circus!

nutmeg1992
02-05-2006, 10:27 PM
I have this idea on why raz's last name rhymes with zanotto.
lili's grandmother could have been the one who caursed his family to die in water. and raz's uncle could be dr.loboto and raz might have an evil twin running around here some where.
think about it.

Jintor
02-18-2006, 05:31 AM
That would be hilareous.

Megan
02-18-2006, 11:10 PM
Their last names rhyme because they want to. If my last name rhymes with someone else's, I'm not going to send a herd of elephants to stampede on their house or curse them to die in water. :D But if Raz had an evil twin, I would so get his autograph. Or her, if it's a fraternal twin..

DarthAve
02-19-2006, 12:03 AM
I have this idea on why raz's last name rhymes with zanotto.
lili's grandmother could have been the one who caursed his family to die in water. and raz's uncle could be dr.loboto and raz might have an evil twin running around here some where.
think about it.Uggggggg............IDIOT!-----Napoleon Dynamite'd!!

Smon
02-19-2006, 12:05 AM
I have this idea on why raz's last name rhymes with zanotto.
lili's grandmother could have been the one who caursed his family to die in water. and raz's uncle could be dr.loboto and raz might have an evil twin running around here some where.
think about it.
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