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The Tingler
05-07-2006, 03:44 PM
I hope everyone's seen the new trailer for Pirates of the Caribbean 2: Dead Man's Chest and are getting suitably excited. If you haven't, go here (http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=6175).

Notice the fact that there's a Voodoo Lady in a swamp?

Who's betting the ending's going to feature Davey Jones turning out to be Jack Sparrow's brother and it was all just one big fairground ride?

(that spoiler was for any people who haven't played Monkey Island 2. I know you're out there)

Joshi
05-07-2006, 04:32 PM
I doubt that'll be then ending of Pirates 2 considering there's a 3'rd installment and both are being filmed back to back. But yes, the trailer does look very good, Depp is back on form as Sparrow, the humour and action seem quite good and one can't really complain about a guy with tentacles as a beard.

Gabez
05-07-2006, 05:03 PM
Yeah, it looks awesome. The shot of the Kracken destroying the ship looks *awesome*.

Reminds me of the end of the new Super Man trailer (http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/supermanreturns/trailer2/), which also looks *s.h.i.t hot*

The Tingler
05-07-2006, 05:11 PM
I know! Pirates 2 and Supe Returns trailers coming out on the same day, and both looking great! They really are both duking it out for title of my 'Most Wanted Film' of this year! (So far, Pirates 2 is winning. Just)

Joshi
05-07-2006, 06:24 PM
The new Trailer for Casino Royale (http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/moviefone/movies/2006/casinoroyale_018129/casinoroyale_trlr_01_maleos_hiq_dl.mov) came out the same day too, which also looks good.

But I really love the Sparrow humour, you can't beat it. Johnny Depp was born to play this role.

The Tingler
05-08-2006, 01:47 PM
YEsss... I saw the Casino Royale one too. I like Bond, I think it'll be good, but I'm really not sure about the logic of an older Dame Judi Dench playing M as Bond starts his career... in the present day.

I think it would've been better if it had been set in the 60s, with a new M.

Thrik
05-08-2006, 02:22 PM
I thought that at first, but really, the whole essence of time in the Bond universe is so messed up that I'm not sure it matters. You just have to kind of suspend disbelief in that respect, although I must say that using the current M is a weird move.

I think very few people will be bothered about it in reality though, and I suspect that a similar amount won't even notice the continuity hole. Bond is more about the experience of the moment and the character rather than how it slots into the rest of the series, which adds to the series' uniqueness.

Joshi
05-08-2006, 05:42 PM
Ditto what Thrik said, I simply just take each bond as a new movie, I don't really see them as any kind of series of movies that happen one after the other. You could simply call it "another spy movie that just happens to have the same characters"... but I wouldn't.

Alien426
05-09-2006, 02:21 AM
You just have to kind of suspend disbelief in that respect
Yeah, like using Maud Adams (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000726/) as both Octopussy and as Andrea Anders in The Man With The Golden Gun. Then using Joe Don Baker (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000833/) as Brad Whitaker in The Living Daylights and as Jack Wade in GoldenEye...

I think the older Bonds have more charme. May be the actor (Connery), may be the crew (composer John Barry, production designer Ken Adam, writer Richard Maibaum...), may be the time setting. I guess a classic approach could have work better than today's 007s.

scabb
05-29-2006, 07:14 PM
I thought the pirates of the caribbean 2 trailer was a bit poo.

Joshi
05-29-2006, 08:36 PM
Any reason, or do you just not like POTC (or think the sequels going to be crap?)

itchythesamurai
05-30-2006, 04:12 PM
I think the trailer looks pretty dandy, and it's pretty much a guaranteed winner at the box office.

Also, new Ghost Rider trailer came out fairly recently. Clickie! (http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/ghostrider/)

Joshi
05-30-2006, 04:46 PM
Yeah, is it me, or does the skeleton part of the Ghost rider look pretty naff? The flames are okay, I guess, although they could be better, but the skeleton bones just look way to plasticy. Still, looks set to be an okay film.

Samnmax221
05-31-2006, 01:17 AM
Any reason, or do you just not like POTC (or think the sequels going to be crap?)
Johnny Depp kinda weirds me out, other then that there great

itchythesamurai
05-31-2006, 02:38 AM
Yeah, I'm sure Johnny Depp makes a lot of guys feel weird, especially close-minded guys with ultraconservative backgrounds.

Samnmax221
05-31-2006, 02:43 AM
He looks different in every movie he's in shall we review
http://data1.blog.de/blog/j/johnnydepp23/img/platoon01.jpg Platoon
http://terryxart.com/Ed%20Scissorhands%20037.jpg Scissorhands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hottest.jpg POTC

Just to cite a few examples
When I watched Platoon a while back I had no idea it was him untill the credits rolled

Joshi
05-31-2006, 05:04 AM
I'd say the mark of a good actor is not being typecast (okay, so he's known to take weird roles) and being able to play a variety of different characters. Plus Captain Jack Sparrow is one of the greatest creations in recent movie history.

The Tingler
05-31-2006, 07:53 AM
If we're still looking for pre-viewing Monkey Island comparisons, there are also cannibals on a desert island (although so far Lemonhead has not been sighter), and the poster for the movie shows a Voodoo Doll of Jack Sparrow.

Samnmax221
05-31-2006, 06:55 PM
I'd say the mark of a good actor is not being typecast (okay, so he's known to take weird roles) and being able to play a variety of different characters. Plus Captain Jack Sparrow is one of the greatest creations in recent movie history.
Jack Sparrow is the only thing Disney has gotten perfect in a long damn time

itchythesamurai
06-01-2006, 03:46 AM
Ah, I caught myself. I was about to make an extremely tasteless comment about the atrocities of Disney, but I remember that this isn't the Sam and Max board. That said, I agree wholeheartedly.

Joshi
06-01-2006, 04:00 AM
Jack Sparrow is the only thing Disney has gotten perfect in a long damn time
Very true (although from what I hear, they are bringing back their traditional feature animation department), and frankly, all they did was fund production, it was Depp and Gore who made the character who he is (among others). If Disney hadn't decided to cash in on one of their theme park rides (something that happened [sarcasm]so well[/] the second time round with Haunted Mansion) he'd have never been born in the first place.

Scummbuddy
06-01-2006, 04:14 AM
Don't forget "The Country Bears"!!!! Egad...

Gabez
06-01-2006, 10:17 AM
I thought the first POTC trailer was a bit mediocre, but the second one's awesome. And also the trailer for the first film was, if I remember rightly, awful...

Scummbuddy
06-01-2006, 11:35 PM
True. Everyone was scared about the tone of the film based soley off of "...try wearing a corset!"

Udvarnoky
06-02-2006, 02:54 PM
Removing that line would have resulted in a better movie. That's how cringe-worthy it was.

itchythesamurai
06-03-2006, 06:17 PM
But would have removing the corset altogether resulted in a better movie...? A question for the ages!

Joshi
06-03-2006, 06:54 PM
Frankly, I think we were lucky to just have the corset line, what with Jerry "Pear Harbor" Bruckheimer producing. It could have been a lot worse.

Samnmax221
06-03-2006, 07:04 PM
Let's just hope it doesn't turn into another ****ty summer movie

scabb
06-05-2006, 08:47 PM
Any reason, or do you just not like POTC (or think the sequels going to be crap?)
Just didn't excite me! Although I'm still expecting it to be ace.

Oh, and David Boreanaz is way hotter than Deppo.

elTee
06-05-2006, 08:51 PM
Hee, good one scabbo!

Joshi
06-06-2006, 05:58 AM
Oh, and David Boreanaz is way hotter than Deppo.

Yeah, but Depp isn't afraid of chickens (as far as I know)

elTee
06-30-2006, 12:34 PM
A review (http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=9800) is in. Kind of what I expected really, but I still think I'm gonna enjoy myself to death when I go to see it myself.

Joshi
06-30-2006, 02:03 PM
Indeed, just got through reading it, and while I generally trust empire, I have found them to sometimes differ on my own opinions so I won't go totally on what they say and I still think I'll enjoy it. Plus we still have a 3rd installment to come.

I say, I say
06-30-2006, 03:47 PM
Jack Sparrow definately has one of the best entrances in terms of our modern-day heroes; no-one can beat him coming into the bay on a sinking rickety little ship. Powerful scene as well as absolutely hilarious; I think thats one of the great factors about POTC, it can be fairly powerful at times but its all mixed with great humour.

elTee
06-30-2006, 04:25 PM
Apparantly they've, if not topped, at least matched that entrance in the new movie.

Udvarnoky
06-30-2006, 07:27 PM
Here's another early review. (http://www.thehotbutton.com/today/hot.button/2006_thb/060626_mon.html)

Joshi
06-30-2006, 07:38 PM
Well, that guy seemed to like it, but like Empire, thought it was a bit too long, which just goes to show the dangers in summer movies. You're average summer movie shouldn't be any longer than around 2 hours, if not less... but I'm not about to go into a screenwriting debate with anyone because I get enough of that elsewhere.

I guess it's all down to differing opinions and I still have high hopes for the film.

elTee
06-30-2006, 07:43 PM
Everyone said The Curse of the Black Pearl was too long as well ;)

Samnmax221
06-30-2006, 07:52 PM
Only if you have a 5 minute attention span

Alien426
07-01-2006, 11:47 AM
"Hey, I've seen this before... no... I've played this before... no... I've designed this before!" (http://grumpygamer.com/8123463)

Joshi
07-01-2006, 12:17 PM
Yeah, but I remember the hubbub about Curse and how much it was like Monkey island. Now granted, this does have a few more similarities (voodoo lady) but then it turned out that the first film... well yeah, it kept the similarities (island no one could get to, skeletal crew, governess, voodoo root... no wait), but it was still a pretty decent movie.

Plus, where would we be without movies ripping off other things ("Seven Samurai" er... "Maginficent Seven" anyone?)

elTee
07-01-2006, 05:43 PM
I think Ron's just sulking.

The Tingler
07-03-2006, 08:25 PM
Yeah, I think that too.

I understand some of the Empire viewpoint, but to be fair - there is MASSIVE expectations of this film.

Just please god don't let it be 'Matrix Reloaded'...

Joshi
07-04-2006, 06:23 PM
I think Ron's just sulking.

Actually, in the recent interview on Gamespot, he said he'd rather enjoyed the first (went in with low expectations for the obvious reason, it's based on a theme park ride, came out quite happy), so he's probably just playing his Grumpy Gamer bit.

Hopefully I'll get to see it sometime this weekend.

elTee
07-04-2006, 09:28 PM
Hah, I've got tickets for thursday, friday, saturday and sunday. I know a lot of people who want to see it!

scabb
07-05-2006, 06:14 AM
Please tell me you're not going four times in four days, tones. No man loves Mr Depp that much. :~

Alien426
07-05-2006, 07:30 AM
Read The Grumpy Gamer Speaks (http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20060630/murdey_01.shtml) on Gamasutra for some vague references to the game that Ron searches a publisher for. Nice comparisons to movie studios and indie films.

Bottom line: Ron hates you for going to see this blockbuster movie.

Joshi
07-05-2006, 09:42 AM
Question, if Jack Sparrow, at some point in the movie, did say something along the lines of "That's the second biggest _____ I've ever seen", would we think of it as stealing, or an homage?

Ray Jones
07-05-2006, 10:53 AM
I'd call it a reference.

No?

"That's the second biggest _____ I've ever seen"He should also add silently "Note to myself: need two of those second biggest _____s I've ever seen to mark the spot!"

That would make the audience go bonkers, yeah.

itchythesamurai
07-05-2006, 11:12 AM
Stealing all the way. There's no chance anyone professionally affiliated with PotC would acknowledge Monkey Island.

elTee
07-05-2006, 12:57 PM
I dunno, Tarantino 'steals' a lot of stuff but he's so open about it that it becomes completely acceptable. Not that I think Dead Man's Chest will actually reference Monkey Island, but here are the similarities I've seen so far:

1. Bayou/voodoo lady = Scabb Island swamp (International House of Mojo)/voodoo lady
2. Cannibals
3. Norrington looks exactly like Guybrush in MI2, from the jacket to the beard

All of these are merely coincidental I'm sure, but with cannibals and the voodoo swamp we have certainly wandered quite far from the "inspired by the ride" scenario.

And Scabb, no, it's okay! I'm going on wednesday instead of saturday now.

Samnmax221
07-05-2006, 01:17 PM
"That's the second biggest _____ I've ever seen"
You need to stay away from the wharf, those bad men put ideas in your head

Joshi
07-05-2006, 02:55 PM
Stealing all the way. There's no chance anyone professionally affiliated with PotC would acknowledge Monkey Island.

Why not? The movie's based on a ride that gave inspiration to Monkey Island, an homage would be quite funny really.

Joshi
07-06-2006, 05:03 PM
Double posting, don't care.

Just saw the film and I have to say, whilst it is very good (the twist at the end is very good, turns out Jack's a eunuch... okay maybe that isn't the twist) I do agree that it was, perhaps half an hour too long. They took the risk that all movies with cliffhanger endings do in making it too long as it begs the question "Was it really worth me sitting through a 2 and a half hour film just to see it not finish?"

Now, to be honest, the ending did leave me wanting more which can be seen as a good or a bad thing as I have no idea how long I'll have to wait for the sequel (a few months like the Matrix sequels, or a year like Lord of the Rings, or longer like Star Wars... well actually we're probably not looking at the latter as they are being made back to back).

But Depp is back on top form, Bloom can act as well as he always could and Knightly pouts a lot, so more of the same. Obviously Davy Jones is a great villain, but no where near as great as Geoffry Rush's 'Barbossa' and his Skeletal crew.

Oh, and just for the record, Jack Sparrow's entrance to the film... couldn't quite say whether it tops the first movies, but it's certainly unique and will have you smiling.

I'd give it a mark out of five, but this isn't the movie review thread. **coughfourcough**

elTee
07-06-2006, 08:15 PM
Oh, and just for the record, Jack Sparrow's entrance to the film... couldn't quite say whether it tops the first movies, but it's certainly unique and will have you smiling.
Ahem.
Some amongst you might raise an eye and suggest that it isn't that unique, being as it is identical to a scene in Monkey Island 2. The, uh, same scene in fact which Tia Dalma and the bayou seem to look quite a lot like.
But, Monkey Island aside for now - whilst certain parts of the film are a lot more "omg Monkey Island" than the first movie (Scumm Bar ;)), the plot is nothing like an MI game - it's a fantastic movie. I didn't love it quite as much as I did the first one, but that would have been impressive indeed. It takes a while to get going (Davy Jones rears his head after what seemed like an hour) but when it does it's your standard adventure fare. This is great, because it makes the movie incredibly entertaining, and I really did love every second - except for one:
Elizabeth kissing Jack - kind of like the Niles gets with Daphne moment in Frasier; seemingly a plot twist engineered because there were no more ideas. It'll come into play in At World's End, to be sure.
Anyway, the action scenes range from the serious to the hilarious, and they're all very well choreographed. The main part of the beginning of the movie (Cannibal Island) seemed at first like it was the 'Jabba's Palace' part of Return of the Jedi - boring and irrelevant - but it won me over with good laughs, despite some very unrealistic moments. The ending is good, even if it leaves the series in a rather peculiar place. Also, the visual effects are incredible - I found it hard to believe that Davy Jones (Nighy) wasn't wearing a prosthetic.

So yeah, it's a worthy sequel, if only because it doesn't suck as much as it easily could have done. I loved it ;)

Udvarnoky
07-07-2006, 02:54 PM
Saw the movie last night. Tons of fun, which is all I could have asked for. My one major disappointment was the soundtrack...I'm not sure I heard one piece that wasn't from Curse of the Black Pearl. Still great music, but considering the original had a great, complete original score, it's a pity this one couldn't too.

Joshi
07-07-2006, 03:29 PM
Whatever music played in the final trailer (the second bit of it, after the boat emerges out of the water) was also used in the film at certain points, and whilst very similar in theme to the first film, was infact very different. But yes, the rest of the soundtrack was similar, which could be seen as a good thing (makes it feel like a POTC movie) or a bad thing (nothing really new).

elTee
07-07-2006, 03:59 PM
The music was actually all new (http://disney.go.com/disneyrecords/soundtracks/pirates2/index.html). The re-used score was different (apart from Sparrow's entrance, I think) - the most obvious time being when Turner Norrington and Sparrow fight on the waterwheel. This uses the same cues from the original but it's a new composition called 'Wheel of Fortune' on the soundtrack. All Tia Dalma's music, as well as Davy Jones' and the music for the Kraken (the only new theme which I think is particularly good) was totally new.

Udvarnoky
07-07-2006, 05:14 PM
I'll no doubt be getting the soundtrack eventually and will give it a closer listen then.

scabb
07-08-2006, 05:18 PM
I saw today, I enjoyed today. Similar "boat" to the rest of you I think - very good, not quite as good as the first. Well worth watching though!


I thought it was a little too drawn out, and they seemed to think it necessary to involve every single character from the first film. PLUS, I don't like it how when Jack leaves the ship, William suddenly takes controls and starts dishing out orders like a seasoned veteran. Same applies to Elizabeth single-handedly taking on an army of fish-monsters. But I suppose all action films are like that, and I should stop whinging. The cannibal island part was a little unncessary too, basically just an excuse for Orlando and MacKenzie to hook up with Johnny.

I enjoyed the potential love-triangle thing though, and the ending was pretty cool even if I was expecting Keith Richards. Then again, I suppose not everyone would know who he was supposed to be.

Looking forward to #3! Hopefully they'll rescue Deppo quickly and bring in another villain.

Joshi
07-08-2006, 06:37 PM
I enjoyed the potential love-triangle thing though, and the ending was pretty cool even if I was expecting Keith Richards. Then again, I suppose not everyone would know who he was supposed to be.


Keith was almost cast, but had to back out due to scheduling conflicts with his band. They haven't gotten him for the third movie yet but Depp has said recently that things look good on that front, so who knows.

elTee
07-08-2006, 08:23 PM
No-one is going to cast Keith Richards in a very big role - he'll have a cameo at best, I would imagine. As for the ending, I unfortunately knew it was going to be Barbossa - well, at least I had a very strong suspicion based on what I had read. Sets it up nicely for part three though!

Joshi
07-08-2006, 09:05 PM
No-one is going to cast Keith Richards in a very big role - he'll have a cameo at best, I would imagine.

I'd never expected him in big role... the films are being shot back to back meaning they're probably a lot of the way through shooting the third, so it'd be hard to write him into a major role, but it still wouldn't be hard to make Jacks father be a small enough role for Keith to be able to play for a few days

Personally I didn't know the ending twist, having not read up too much on the film (purposely, I didn't want to know too much about it), so it was quite pleasant for me.

elTee
07-08-2006, 10:25 PM
It was mostly the knowledge that Rush had a cameo, and he hadn't appeared yet. That and the fact that he was listed as a main cast member for movie three.

scabb
07-09-2006, 11:39 AM
Does anyone know of any online versions of Liar's Dice, which is the dice game played in the film?

MrManager
07-09-2006, 09:35 PM
Watched it, and liked it a lot. Had no idea that the twist at the end would occur, so that was a nice surprise.

That's all I got.

Jake
07-10-2006, 12:31 AM
I thought it was going to suck, and it didn't. Not as tight and cohesive as the first by any means, but all around not a bad job either. Good times.

Scummbuddy
07-10-2006, 10:52 AM
During the scene where Depp ditches his hat overboard, because of the monkey, and a salvage boat picks up the hat ala Curse of Monkey Island... all I could think about from this scene was the whole cutscene from Curse. I would think that this would definitly be an homage.

And if anyone wants to know about Barbossa showing up at the end, watch the end of the first movie, after the credits to see:
The monkey take an aztec coin and place it in Barbossa's dying hand.

which also explains the undead monkey

And I do hope that everyone stayed for after the long credits to see a short and hilarious scene.

edited by elTee because there was a spoiler ;)

Joshi
07-10-2006, 11:32 AM
Scumbuddy, you spoilered the wrong thing

Actually, you were meant to spoiler out the bit about Barbossa coming back at the end of POTC2. And I'm not sure what you've seen, but after the credits on my version of Pirates, the monkey takes the gold, goes all skeletony and then jumps at the camera and it ends, nothing about him putting it in Barbossa's hand, there's probably a better explanation to him being alive

And yes, I also thought of that cutscene from COMI, Nice homage if it was one, otherwise, it was a cool scene anyway.

elTee
07-10-2006, 12:56 PM
Hee that bit reminded me of CMI too.

And yeah I got the same version as Joshi - no placing of the coin in Barbossa's hand for me. The fact that Barbossa is back was something of an annoyance at first - I mean, if they can bring him back without going to "world's end" why not Jack too? But then I thought a) we don't know that someone didn't go to world's end to get him, and b) if it's voodoo, they had access to Barbossa's dead body, unlike Jack's, so they could bring him back.

When I think about most of the 'flaws' in this sequel I find I can explain them if I try - kind of like the original.

Joshi
07-10-2006, 01:46 PM
And yeah I got the same version as Joshi - no placing of the coin in Barbossa's hand for me. The fact that Barbossa is back was something of an annoyance at first - I mean, if they can bring him back without going to "world's end" why not Jack too? But then I thought a) we don't know that someone didn't go to world's end to get him, and b) if it's voodoo, they had access to Barbossa's dead body, unlike Jack's, so they could bring him back.

I'd go for version 2, Voodoo lady's are known for reanimating dead bodies and sometimes even bringing them back to life so it couldn't be too hard to imagine that she was able to do this with Barbossa's body.

Scummbuddy
07-10-2006, 02:45 PM
yes my fault for not getting the monkey-coin ending correctly, and i thought that this thread really didn't need spoilers. but thats fine. and i am excited to see them explain a good bit in the next movie. May will be a wonderful month of movies with spiderman3 and pirates3

elTee
07-10-2006, 02:50 PM
Potentially Hollywood's most lucrative month ever... the turnover could top some GNPs.

Joshi
07-10-2006, 03:35 PM
yes my fault for not getting the monkey-coin ending correctly, and i thought that this thread really didn't need spoilers. but thats fine.

Well, the thread was started long before the movies release and didn't specify spoilers to be inside. Add to the fact that the movie only came out a few days, ago, I think spoilers would be appropriate.

Nice bit of trivia, POTC2 made 30 million on it's opening day, beating Star Wars Episode 3 and making a new box office record. I guess people really wanted to see Jack again.

Scummbuddy
07-10-2006, 03:44 PM
I thought we decided it was people want to see pirates over star wars. In games or movies.

And I understood about the spoilers. I wasn't saying I was right. I guess I just know to not go into threads about movies that I plan on seeing but haven't yet.

Joshi
07-10-2006, 05:15 PM
As am I (unless I plan on seeing it the day it comes out like this one) but others don't unfortunately, else we could talk freely about the fact that Elizabeth dies... um... I mean... that stuff happens that we shouldn't talk about.

Murray the Chao
07-11-2006, 01:05 AM
I'd go for version 2, Voodoo lady's are known for reanimating dead bodies and sometimes even bringing them back to life so it couldn't be too hard to imagine that she was able to do this with Barbossa's body.

I also go with version 2. It was a Voodoo priestess that revived LeChuck in MI2.

90SK
07-11-2006, 02:07 AM
the monkey takes the gold, goes all skeletony and then jumps at the camera and it ends

I never saw that scene, so I was a befuddled by the appearence of the cursed monkey in Dead Man's Chest. I'll have to check it out next time I watch POTC.

Joshi
07-11-2006, 07:45 AM
It's one of those things that film makers put after the credits knowing that only a small percentage of people will actually see it in the cinema (although this numbers growing, more and more people are talking about what happens after the credits of a lot of movies, POTC2 apparently had a hilarious one)

scabb
07-11-2006, 07:55 AM
After the credits in PotC 2...
it turns out the dog is in charge of the cannibal island. Definitely not worth staying through the credits for. See here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkh6R8ZLMTM) for a very poor quality and highly illegal bootleg of the post-credits scene.
I'd rather watch those scenes on youtube and not gaze at the credits for five minutes like a tit. Actually, I'd rather those scenes weren't put in at all, particularly when they're quite significant like in X-men 3.

Joshi
07-11-2006, 08:02 AM
Yeah, I'd heard it was something like that. I'm a little disturbed at how much the kids who recorded the film loved it so much.

elTee
07-11-2006, 09:40 AM
Literally loads of people stayed behind when I saw it the first time on opening night - and this was at like 11.45. I had mentioned to my friend (who never ever goes to the cinema) that there was a post-credits sequence I think and then forgot about it. After the movie he was all 'so are we staying?' and I didn't mind, and we convinced the designated driver to stay so we stayed. At least thirty other people were hanging around, and in the twenty minutes we were all there we all got to know each other, exchange phone numbers and arrange to meet up for Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End - the usual, you know.

Oh the jokes! We Northerners know how to make the best of a bad situation! The sarcasm after the sequence, which suggested annoyance but really signified pure happiness? It would have shamed Mr. Fawlty!

But as the post-credit scene in part one was actually relevant to the plot of part two, I'd say it's a safe bet that that dog will play a part in part three*.

* not really :(

itchythesamurai
07-12-2006, 11:02 PM
Thanks for letting me know to stay after the credits! It just came out today in Singapore (Thursday releases, yeah, it's weird), and I'm going to see a digital screening.

Samnmax221
07-12-2006, 11:05 PM
I'll go see it after all of Depp's fangirls go away, including my stupid bitchy cousin.

itchythesamurai
07-12-2006, 11:10 PM
Don't forget the Depp fanboys, they are usually more hardcore too. *cringe*

Joshi
07-13-2006, 08:46 AM
(Thursday releases, yeah, it's weird)

Ours came out on a Thursday, sometimes they just do that as the preview before the general release on Friday's.

I was hoping Superman would do the same, but alas, I cannot see it till tomorrow (which won't, by all means, stop me from visiting the cinema today :P)

Alien426
07-13-2006, 11:02 AM
In Germany Thursday is the regular new-release-day.

We'll get Pirates 2 in 2 weeks (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0383574/releaseinfo).

From the current program, I'm only interested in Over The Hedge and Slither. Slither suffers the same fate as Serenity: it will either not be shown at local cinemas or too late. Well, I'll just get the DVD then.

I never was much for Superman. He's too super to be interesting. I watched Lois & Clark for some time, but it got overly formulaic. Smallville suffered the same fate.

Joshi
07-13-2006, 01:52 PM
I was the same, but I'm always interested in what Bryan Singer can come up with. Not all of his films have been great, but he's done some good work.

I'm not that interested in Over the Hedge, it's simply another Dreamworks CG animation made in a year with more celebrity voices carrying it than there should be.

elTee
07-13-2006, 10:14 PM
I dunno about Bryan Singer, I really think he should stay away from blockbusters - those X-Men films were dire, but Apt Pupil and The Usual Suspects were both really good. Still the trailers look good, and it has good reviews.

Cinema releases were always originally on a Friday - this is why cinema listings (at least in the UK) still always come out on a Thursday. What happened in the mid-to-late '90s is that they would start releasing movies on a 'preview' on the Thursday, which gave them an extra date to add to the 'weekend' takings - essentially making it look like the film had made more money in less time. After a while, every big summer film was doing this and it was just crazy - I mean, the movie was coming out on the Friday but the de facto release date was on the Thursday. Because I've been going to the cinema regularly for so long, it became easy to make use from these trends - for example, I have a friend who is obsessed with Spiderman. When the original movie was coming out, he booked tickets for 'opening night' with his brother about a month before it was out. I then went to see it without booking tickets at all a day before 'release date' with some other friends, and needless to say, pissed this guy off.

I don't know if they do this in the US too, but Superman Returns at least came out on a Wednesday to increase its 'weekend' revenue. Still didn't beat Pirates of the Caribbean though ;)

Scummbuddy
07-13-2006, 10:25 PM
May I ask what possible part of Slither are you looking forward to?

Joshi
07-14-2006, 09:23 AM
I dunno about Bryan Singer, I really think he should stay away from blockbusters - those X-Men films were dire, but Apt Pupil and The Usual Suspects were both really good. Still the trailers look good, and it has good reviews.

Depends on your point of view. I can agree that the first wasn't too good although "dire" is a little harsh (and I won't comment on the third because it wasn't Singer) but the second was a lot better and was seen by most to not only be a good sequel, but a good movie all around.

And a lot of people think Apt Pupil was a abd film. It really does depend on your point of view with his films.

I quite liked Slither, it was an almost Horror with enough humour in it to not take itself too seriously (but in no way is it a spoof or parody of horror movies).
Good acting and a fair storyline.

Alien426
07-14-2006, 12:28 PM
I quite liked Slither, it was an almost Horror with enough humour in it to not take itself too seriously (but in no way is it a spoof or parody of horror movies).
Good acting and a fair storyline.
That's what I want. I hope it's going to be something like Tremors or Evolution, but darker.

X-Men 1 felt kinda short and unfinished (a lot like MIB), X-Men 2 (yes, I call it that since why on god's green earth does anyone see the need to abbreviate the damn title to X2?!) had a bad ending. And I don't talk about the "death".

Joshi
07-14-2006, 02:48 PM
Much much darker, I thik you'll like it.

Can't say anything bad about X-Men 2's ending, but I guess that's just my opinion.

Anyhow, just saw Superman Returns and I guess I'l have to admit... it wasn't as good as I thought it'd be. I guess the action sequences were okay although nothing special, the plot was a little weak and frankly, if it has a saving grace, it's Kevin Spacey's "Lex Luthor".

Alien426's right, he's just way too super, even with the edge kryptonite gave him, I never really thought he was in any peril...

Hell, even when he "dies" near the end, I never once thought that would be the end

...and it seemed like with his flight, strength and speed there was nothing he couldn't overcome.

The opening sequence was good though, with John Williams original music.

scabb
07-14-2006, 03:06 PM
The first two X-Men films were excellent, as was Apt Pupil & The Usual Suspects. Superman Returns is the only fairly dull film I've seen from Singer, I was certainly expecting something more. I liked Slither too, it was good rather than great.

elTee
07-14-2006, 04:53 PM
The intro is the same as the original movie yeah, but it sucks. Too many 'presented by's - the original just got straight in there with heavyweight names like Marlon Brando and Gene Hackman. Great.

Joshi
07-14-2006, 05:27 PM
I did notice Kevin Spacey's name never actually came up... unless I missed it completely.

I saw Brandon Routh's, and then Kate Bosworth, and then I expected Spacey's to come along, him being the big name connected with the picture (plus he's the main bad guy), but it never showed, at least as far as I can tell (went from bosworth to James Marsden). I did expect that in that case, they'd probably put him at the end "and Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor", but then they just went onto the presented by's.

I suppose I liked the intro because it gave me a sense of nostalgia (that and I like the theme).

scabb
07-16-2006, 07:32 AM
They definitely did put Kevin Spacey's name up, after all the other actors but before everyone else.

itchythesamurai
07-16-2006, 08:34 AM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was an "and Kevin Spacey" in the beginning credits. The whole intro sequence reminded me of 3rd Rock from the Sun.

Joshi
07-16-2006, 10:24 AM
Fair enough then, I guess I just missed it (I do remember spacing at some point during the credits and wondering "Did I miss his name coming up, or did they just not put it up?")

Murray the Chao
08-13-2006, 09:02 PM
Just saw Dead Man's Chest today. I will be seeing At World's End will it comes out. I'm pretty sure Jack Sparrow will come back from the Kraken, seeing that he, like Barbossa, is undead(see POTC 1)



BTW, I would love too see some fanart - Kraken Pirate LeChuck(LeChuck with tentacle beard)

Joshi
08-13-2006, 09:29 PM
But the curse was broken at the end of POTC1, the only one effected is the monkey now.