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nova_wolf
01-10-2001, 10:32 AM
The different colours. Is it possibly that the crystals and gems used are of some significant force sensitivty themselves....
Evidence to coroborate it :
In Empire Strikes Back, Luke's sabre is bluish. He isnt very strong in the force.
In Return of the Jedi, it's bright green, and he is a full Jedi.
Does a sabre naturally look white/blue, and then stregnthen in colour as the user strengthens in the Force. And depending upon which path they take, it goes blue, the green, or dark side goes orangey, then red.
Interesting idea, no ?

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Poor Bastard
01-10-2001, 04:27 PM
Interesting idea, no ?

No.

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Rogue Nine
01-10-2001, 04:36 PM
Not necessarily, Cmdr. Mace Windu was a high ranking Jedi Master, yet he used a blue lightsaber. Also, I remember reading in some book that a few Dark Masters used various color lightsabers, not just red.

Nute Gunray
01-10-2001, 05:01 PM
red=bad because red=communism (no joke. i read that was the reason...somewhere)
blue=jedi
green=shows up better in a desert for the SFX shots

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Taarkin
01-10-2001, 05:08 PM
Luke's new saber was green because it was a completeley different one. His blue one was attatched to his hand on Bespin.

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Vark111
01-10-2001, 05:48 PM
...which ended up in the Emperor's Mount Tantiss fortress, to be cloned at a later date by Joruus C'Boath.

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JR2000Z
01-10-2001, 06:15 PM
Like Jedi Knight.

Poor Bastard
01-10-2001, 07:58 PM
Owned.

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paulbarnard
01-10-2001, 08:09 PM
In the Crystal Star book, you can have lightsabres turned on by force users as well. Crystal color is relative the the jewel (or jewels) used to make them.

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K_Kinnison
01-10-2001, 08:13 PM
Luke second saber was Green because it contrasted better to the Tanish sand then a blue blade would

Red blades are synoimous with Evil

There is no "special" reason for the colors... it is what ever looks good.

Niether is the type of saber they use. Samuel L Jackson got his saber from a Prop guy with a box full of sabers and the prop guy said "pick one"

Oh wait.. i have brown shoes becasue i am less skilled at checkers then people with white shoes :rollseyes:

Darth Sceltor
01-10-2001, 09:23 PM
The color doesn't matter. Like, I have a blue one, but I'm a SITH.

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Zoom Rabbit
01-10-2001, 10:23 PM
The very best Jedi use ultraviolet lightsabers. The blade is completely invisible!

Really. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

Darth Sceltor
01-10-2001, 10:46 PM
Can you imagine how many Padawans would lose their hands? http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Nute Gunray
01-10-2001, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by Zoom Rabbit:
The very best Jedi use ultraviolet lightsabers. The blade is completely invisible!

Really. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

That was in a fanfic i wrote. the guy was a sith lord too...so
best jedi=evil guys.

Thrawn
01-11-2001, 12:26 AM
The sabre color changes only if the crystal is changed or if a new sabre is built. Usually, padawans have blue, knights green, and masters whatever the hell color they want http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

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Admiral
01-11-2001, 12:28 AM
Just to remind everyone, Leia has a ruby(red) blade that Luke made here in Ambush at Corellia. Plus the other jedi have different colors.

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Poor Bastard
01-11-2001, 04:56 AM
Keyan uses green saber. Yet he's gay. Why doesn't he use pink saber? How can that be? This is truely an ENIGMA

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Tek Gunner
01-11-2001, 04:59 AM
Originally posted by Poor Bastard:
Keyan uses green saber. Yet he's gay. Why doesn't he use pink saber? How can that be? This is truely an ENIGMA



Haha, OWNED!!1

Poor Bastard
01-11-2001, 05:00 AM
Indeed.

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Tek Gunner
01-11-2001, 05:02 AM
Keyan is now your personal *****, sir.

Poor Bastard
01-11-2001, 05:03 AM
I thought that was you, sir. OWNED. Heehee http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

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Jem
01-11-2001, 04:43 PM
That saber colour thing isn't important, the SW movies are full of illogical stuff, for instance the storie happens a long time ago in a galaxie far far away and yet there are humans (in identity cards of SW characters I saw: "race: human"). There is also the fact that they destroyed the death star without worrying about the enormous quantity of prisoners and innocent workers that were eventually working on rapairing the death star.
it's all illogical but hey, what are you gonna do about it?

Archer
01-11-2001, 04:57 PM
Yeah, Luke's a war criminal.

Luke: But I was only following orders. Plus I'm a Jedi Knight, no really I am.
Military Tribunal: Hang him.


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K_Kinnison
01-11-2001, 09:42 PM
how can he be a war criminal when his side won?

Coffeebean_uk
01-12-2001, 09:41 AM
It is an interesting idea. But it would have to be some biological not geological lense to sense the force in the user.

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Zoom Rabbit
01-12-2001, 10:26 AM
Ah, but we aren't talking about the lightsaber sensing the Force directly...but rather the effect that it has on aura of the Jedi holding it. The Jedi's level of spiritual advancement would involve his consciousness moving into higher levels of energetic awareness, whose effect on the body's own electromagnetic field can be detected easily by electronic means.

This is true today. When advanced yogis and meditators in other traditions are hooked up to EEG instrumentation, they are shown to generate long trains of altered brainwaves, which change relative to the sphere of consciousness in which the meditator is currently working. To put it in the eastern sense, chi cannot be measured directly, but its effect on the body can be.

So. A lightsaber which senses the user's level of awareness would be possible*, but it couldn't (in theory) detect the Force directly. Such a weapon wouldn't stay one color, though...it would alter itself to relect the user's state of focus, almost like a mood ring.

Interesting idea. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

<font size=1>* Assuming that a lightsaber would even be possible in the first place.

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Gold leader
01-12-2001, 11:16 AM
Possible example:
"
Look, my saber's green. And now it's red. And now it's green. And now it's..hey..it's blue. And now it's red. I want it to get yellow. Nope, no yellow. Green again? I want yellow!!! Darn. Red again. Huh? Redder? Can it get any redder? No, this is more like violet...etc."

Perhaps not such a good idea, color-changing sabers.

Archer
01-12-2001, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by K_Kinnison:
his side won

so far it looks that way...


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paulbarnard
01-12-2001, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by K_Kinnison:
how can he be a war criminal when his side won?

One can still be charged with war crimes on the winning side if one was to do something horrific (such as willfully and knowing kill civillians like the did in Vietnam). Officers were charged and convicted of that in the Millitary courts.

Also, the saber color has is more a matter of science. Every book on the subject says so. It's a matter of the frequency the saber is tuned to. This frequency emits energy (via light) through a crystal and a focusing lens creating the light saber. The frequecny really limits the color range, which is then refracted by the crystal (don't know if it emits it's complimentary color or what). That's kind of a conglmoration of all the books from guide to the universe, technology guide, and years of physics, chemistry expierence with lasers.

Jem
01-12-2001, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by Zoom Rabbit:
Assuming that a lightsabe would even be possible in the first place.


It can be possible and I know how: take a device (the shape of a handle) that sends a laser and a "stick" (like a radio antenna so you can stick it in the handle when not using it) placed where the saber is suppose to be, starts in the middle of th handle and can be extend as long as you want, at the end of that "stick" place a diamond that is carved in a way that it will refract the laser back to the handle that itself is equiped with a diamond that will refract the refracted laser back to the diamond on the end of the "stick" and so on and so on, and you've got a laser being eternally refracted around the "stick", it's a "Lightsaber" or more logically Lasersaber.

so what do you think?
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Poor Bastard
01-12-2001, 07:25 PM
so what do you think?

I think that using science and stuff to explain crap from movies is stupid.

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K_Kinnison
01-12-2001, 08:55 PM
How about a saber from the 70's

a Moodsaber!

*Lukes saber changes to red

Emporer: i can SEE the hate swelling in you, give in to you anger strick me down

*Vaders saber changes to blue

Luke: I SEE the good in you, there is conflict

*changes back to red

Vader: nope, there is no conflict http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/tongue.gif

*lueks saber changes to red

Luke: THATS IT...*whines* I hate you *whack* I hate you *whack*

Zoom Rabbit
01-12-2001, 09:55 PM
*Whacks off Luke Skywalker's head with samurai sword.*

See, now that works. The science is pretty straightforward. *Points to blood running down the blade.* And it even changes color!

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Psycho Tycho
01-12-2001, 10:05 PM
Wowwwwww..... http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Vark111
01-12-2001, 10:27 PM
Well, if you guys want to get all pseudo-scientific here, think about this...

The way a lightsaber (suposedly) works is that the light is emitted at the base, extends to a certain length, then is bent back on itself to finally 'terminate' on the handle again. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't that mean that the handle of a light saber require a black hole to be stored in it somewhere? i.e. some kind of entity that can bend light back upon itself?

And then wouldn't everyone (including the saber wielder) be sucked into said black hole?

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Darth Sceltor
01-12-2001, 10:34 PM
Vark's Theory= unl33t
Jem's Theory= l33t
My Theory= (nonexistent)

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K_Kinnison
01-13-2001, 12:21 AM
well, you could arc energy somehow if you give in the right wavelength

Thrawn
01-13-2001, 12:53 AM
Let's get a particle accelorator the size of Rhode Island, and we can start testing http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

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Zoom Rabbit
01-13-2001, 10:02 AM
I'm of the opinion that a lightsaber is an electrified plasma weapon, the blade of which is contained by an electromagnetic bottle (hence the sputtering, sparking when they touch.)

Energy (laser or particle acceleration) beams would just pass right through each other.

The plasma, essentially, would be a rarified gas stored in the lightsaber handle. When energized, the gas would take plasma form...just like in a modern day flourescent light bulb. This would also explain why the blade grows from the hilt when activated, instead of 'blinking on' at the speed of light.

Zoom Rabbit's theory= authentic. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/smile.gif

Poor Bastard
01-13-2001, 01:46 PM
My theory = this thread sucks.

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Gold leader
01-13-2001, 08:03 PM
Zoom's theory = mine, posted some months ago.

Zoom Rabbit
01-14-2001, 06:50 AM
Gold Leader's name= mine, while insane in a previous lifetime.

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Poor Bastard
01-15-2001, 12:19 AM
My theory = All theories, except this one, suck.

I'm SMARTEY. I created a paradox.

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nova_wolf
01-15-2001, 10:13 AM
This was such a good idea for a thread...
I like the idea of an electromagnetic field holding the energy in place.
As for a crsytal on the end of a rod, you would cleave the rod when the sabres met, and so it would be a pointless weapon if it didn't last the fight.
A great fashion accesory - moodsaber - I want won....

Now for my theory = maybe a light sbare is the fastest repeater blaster known, and the blade is actually blast after blast, so fast that it appears as one, and some field is holding it in place. After all, a saber isn't as "'random' or clumsy as a blaster".

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paulbarnard
01-16-2001, 03:38 AM
Two physicsts (i think) wrote a whole book on the Technology of Star Wars. Light sabers are covered.

Gold leader
01-16-2001, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by Zoom Rabbit:
Gold Leader's name= mine, while insane in a previous lifetime.

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Zoom Rabbit's name = mine, while practicing moronism in a next lifetime.

Zoom Rabbit
01-16-2001, 10:18 PM
In the slums of eighteenth-century London, I was a gin-besotten n'er-do-well who collected scrap brass and tin. In my alcohol-drenched fugues I would proclaim to befuddled passers-by that pieces of brass that I'd scrounged from the rubbish was gold! Soon, the townsfolk started calling me the 'Gold Leader' in derisive amusement.

Hah? http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/tongue.gif What's your story, then?

Gold leader
01-18-2001, 07:41 AM
In my next life I'll have giant ears due to an accidental genetic modification. Those ears will give me the opportunity to perform in a number of car commercials. My most important line will be "zoom, zoom".
Hans Letterman, the grandson of, will have me on his show and will combine my looks and my acting achievements and call me "Zoom rabbit". Under this name I'll try to become a stand-up comedian but I'll fail since no one is paying attention because they're all fixated on my ears instead of my jokes.
After this failure I'll travel to India where I accept Muhurushu, also the grandson of, as my guru. There, on a diet
of only carrots, I'll live happily ever after.

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Zoom Rabbit
01-18-2001, 09:37 AM
Magic carrots? No one will buy that part of the story. You fail!

Besides, everyone knows that the ear and 'Zoom' correlation is the extra lift they provide at high speed. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Gold leader
01-19-2001, 11:22 AM
I never mentioned "magic carrots". So I don't fail. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/tongue.gif

And extra lift means a lot of extra drag. How does a rabbit cope with that, if there are no such things as magic carrots?

Zoom Rabbit
01-19-2001, 10:00 PM
With ears like this, I can hear voices others can't.

Magic carrots got nothing on me, jack!

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Jem
01-20-2001, 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Cmdr_DFMD:

As for a crsytal on the end of a rod, you would cleave the rod when the sabres met, and so it would be a pointless weapon if it didn't last the fight.


ok here is a mathematical explanation to this:
take a graphique and trace de fonction:
f(x)= 1/x
you will notice that the graphical curves will forever near the abscisse and will never touch it: asymptotic.
The same thing occures with the laser and the rod, the laser will keep nearing the rod but will never touch it.

There, anybody else wants to contradict my theory? http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

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