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Nute Gunray
02-28-2001, 04:42 AM
I plead insanity. I'm pissed off at reality basically, and a few of you, MILKSHAKE
rosie yelled at me enough to cause me to do this.
i DO apologize to emupiett who hasn't been around long enough to make fun of me.
so, um, in conclusion: i still think SOME of what i did was funny (ask pb, tek, or zarg. it was a BLAST), listen to plasmo and move on, and i don't care what you do with me.
adios.

Rogue 9
02-28-2001, 04:47 AM
Apology Accepted, Captain Gunray, Also I haven't been around long enough to make fun of you either, although there was the small arms racein that one topi...

milkshake
02-28-2001, 06:41 AM
And I have to apologise too, Nute I will control my posting in the future.

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'Now, if I could just say a few words, I'd be a better public speaker.

Poor Bastard
02-28-2001, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by Nute Gunray:
i still think SOME of what i did was funny (ask pb, tek, or zarg. it was a BLAST

Funniest thing <u>EVER</u>, good friend http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif<font size=1>

[This message has been edited by Poor Bastard (edited February 28, 2001).]

Zoom Rabbit
02-28-2001, 10:00 AM
I accept your 'apology,' Nute...I just wish it were genuine.

I hope you feel better about...everything. Soon.

Plasmo
02-28-2001, 10:13 AM
http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif I loove you Nute!! http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif Have a good day everyone!

Thrawn
02-28-2001, 02:15 PM
I accecpt, although I do think you need to tone it down a bit.


I think somebody's just a little TOO happy. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

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Jabba The Hunt
02-28-2001, 02:39 PM
The problem u had nute was the same as mine u did something that u thought was funny but not everyone thought so and they banned the school ip MY FINAL THOUGHT: we have to remeber that this forum has many different people on it and they all have different opinions of what is right and wrong.

PS - I thought it was funny just dont tell anyone else ok

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Coffeebean_uk
02-28-2001, 03:19 PM
Can anyone see Jabbas posts all folowing the same thread.

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Hey Im a Jigsaw!!

Rogue 9
02-28-2001, 03:27 PM
Not all of his posts are the same, he posted about not being able to post earlier http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

emupiett
02-28-2001, 04:02 PM
I accept your apology, Nute. Just be careful about what you post. I really don't want to see you banned! http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/smile.gif

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Admiral
02-28-2001, 07:36 PM
I personally don't feel you need to apollogize. (I can't spell) And Zoom you shouldn't say that it wasn't real, who do you know. If I were Nute I would be pissed by that comment.

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"Dulce bellum inexpertis."
(Sweet is war to those who have never experinced it.) Roman Proverb

Zoom Rabbit
02-28-2001, 08:42 PM
http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/rolleyes.gif

I have said my piece.

Darth Sceltor
02-28-2001, 10:03 PM
It wasn't real. I can tell that much talking to Nute.

Admiral
03-01-2001, 12:13 AM
I know but if it was real.......

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"Dulce bellum inexpertis."
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Zargon
03-01-2001, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by Poor Bastard:
Funniest thing <u>EVER</u>, good friend http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif`



I concur

JR2000Z
03-01-2001, 02:39 AM
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Gold leader
03-01-2001, 08:27 AM
Of all the world's notions, revenge is the least likely to advance society in a social-cultural way.

Abbastanza per me.

Darth Sceltor
03-01-2001, 03:50 PM
Bah, I think we should just let this all go. It's over now and the perpatrators are temporarily gone...

Jabba The Hunt
03-01-2001, 05:27 PM
yeah but it does show how its not just newbians that make bad posts!!!

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Zargon
03-01-2001, 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Gold leader:
Of all the world's notions, revenge is the least likely to advance society in a social-cultural way.

Abbastanza per me.

The best way to advance the world has proved to be war, so now what?

Gold leader
03-02-2001, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by Zargon:
The best way to advance the world has proved to be war, so now what?

Partially true. Economic growth and the inherent wealth prosper in peacetime, my friend. Wars encourage the development of technology, but not as much as peace does. It simply takes too many resources that otherwise could be devoted to enrich our civilization.

Zoom Rabbit
03-02-2001, 09:15 AM
On the other hand, the argument could be made that ours is a species which is predatory in nature. To conquer was our first experience in overcoming challenge, and the two remain easily interchangeable in the human mind. Our entire history of wars running concurrent with the advance of human civilization was proven this; it is simply in our nature to move foward, and to fight along the way.

Perhaps someday we will view the world as a peaceful stage upon which our ambitions can be built without the presence of war. For now, though, our species is too grounded in the animal passions of our ancestors...and whether we realize it or not, each day we strap on the quiver of arrows and stalk hungrily into the jungle to make our daily kill.

http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

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Admiral
03-02-2001, 07:04 PM
Zoom you have an interesting view, and I have to agree with you.

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"Dulce bellum inexpertis."
(Sweet is war to those who have never experinced it.) Roman Proverb

Keyan Farlander
03-02-2001, 07:14 PM
Yes, and I think I'll get me a rabbit for my daily kill today! Oh, wait a minute...you're lucky it's a Friday during Lent, my little rabbit friend! Oh heck, I don't have to eat you...I'LL JUST KILL YOU!!!!!!

Deac
03-02-2001, 07:21 PM
I never saw any of these postings, but accept your apolagy.

DON'T MAKE FUN OF NUTE! HE'S ONLY HUMAN!

Keyan Farlander
03-02-2001, 07:25 PM
No he's not. Didn't you see Episode I?

Gold leader
03-02-2001, 07:39 PM
Our species is omnivorous. That means we're not only predators, but also gatherers. Our curiosity is one of the main motivators for the advancement of our civilization. Advances on the field of philosophy are in general not to be expected in times of total war. Most discoveries in physics take place when scientists have the freedom to research. Again, they usually do not have that in wartime.

I think our animal passions are nowadays answered to by means of sports, junk food, economic competition and free pr0n on the net. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

Gold leader
03-02-2001, 07:41 PM
Sorry I interrupted your off-off topic posting; it took some time to type my last post.

Rogue 9
03-02-2001, 08:05 PM
most of our scientific advancements have taken place during or because of war.

Gold leader
03-02-2001, 08:18 PM
During war, of course, because there's always war somewhere on this world. But most advancements did not take place because of war. Some examples.

Quantum physics was developed at the beginning of last century - before WWI.
The development of CD's, videorecorders and TV weren't started because of war.
The theory of gravity has no use for an army.
Ovidius wrote his Metamorphosis during the Pax Romana.
The wheel existed before the chariot.

Zoom Rabbit
03-02-2001, 08:57 PM
I think the human instinct for conflict is best resolved with videogames! http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

*(Goes and blows up star destroyers.)*

Zoom Rabbit
03-02-2001, 09:03 PM
Note: I believe it's been said before, quite accurately, that necessity is the mother of invention. The curiosity of the researching scientist can be seen as fulfilling the scientist's need to do so. Sometimes those necessities are related to war, and sometimes they are not.

Why do you guys keep trying to resolve the universe in black and white when it's all gray? http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

[This message has been edited by Zoom Rabbit (edited March 02, 2001).]

Rogue15
03-02-2001, 09:09 PM
Did I miss something?

Tek Gunner
03-02-2001, 11:21 PM
A little message from N00T:
Originally posted by Gold leader:
The development of CD's, videorecorders and TV weren't started because of war.
Yes they were. CDs were for storing huge amounts of information, mainly satellite photographs, in a small area. Videorecorders are descendants of camera pods on fighters. Television was developed for the radio transmission of recon photos.
The theory of gravity has no use for an army.
Artillery shells. nuff said.

The preceding has been a message from the n00tz0r. <font size=1>

[This message has been edited by Tek Gunner (edited March 02, 2001).]

Keyan Farlander
03-02-2001, 11:49 PM
Even while banned, Nute manages to post http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/smile.gif

Rogue 9
03-03-2001, 02:20 AM
Originally posted by Gold leader:
[B]Quantum physics was developed at the beginning of last century - before WWI.
The development of CD's, videorecorders and TV weren't started because of war.
The theory of gravity has no use for an army.

Television was developed from a combination of EMR and Radio Technology, both used in military applications first
and
The theory of gravity is used rather heavily by the military Airforce anyone

Tek Gunner
03-03-2001, 06:47 PM
Roofle, Gold leader was OWNZ0RED twice !!

Gold leader
03-03-2001, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Tek Gunner:
Artillery shells. nuff said.


Catapults existed long before Newton. They were pretty accurate already. Armies don't use scientific theories, they use the result of those theories. Most theories were not especially developed for warfare. That was the point I was trying to make.


Yes they were. CDs were for storing huge amounts of information, mainly satellite photographs

As far as I can recall, Philips (the electronics company) engineers developed the CD as a medium for music, and it took some time before the CD was used to store data like satellite photographs.
Here (http://www.yamahacdrwinfo.com/philipssony.htm)'s some info about the history of the CD, which proves me right.

Originally posted by Rogue 9
The theory of gravity is used rather heavily by the military Airforce anyone

As I've said above, armies don't use the theories, they use their result. Langley, the Wright bros. and other aviation pioneers had absolutely no idea of the military importance of aeroplanes.

Originally posted by Tek Gunner
Roofle, Gold leader was OWNZ0RED twice !!


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[This message has been edited by Gold leader (edited March 03, 2001).]

Rogue 9
03-03-2001, 08:55 PM
You didn't counter my TV Theory

Gold leader
03-03-2001, 08:58 PM
First gotta take care of some arguments to back me up. Be patient, my young apprentice. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

Tek Gunner
03-03-2001, 11:23 PM
Didn't someone say that MOST inventions were made during war? You are pointing out the few that weren't (if you're even completly right), so thats not proving anything. MOST were, SOME were not, smart ass. We don't need you to examine every post. kthxbye



[This message has been edited by Tek Gunner (edited March 03, 2001).]

Gold leader
03-04-2001, 10:33 AM
SOME were, MOST weren't, not-so-smartass. Which inventions were made during the Vietnam war, thanks to that war? And the Gulf war? The War of Independence? I can only think of some examples concerning WWI and II. But even radar existed before WWII.

[This message has been edited by Gold leader (edited March 04, 2001).]

Zoom Rabbit
03-04-2001, 12:36 PM
My $.02, broken down again:

War/invention ratio irrelevant. Wars happen. Inventions happen.

If we never had wars, we would still invent things. If we had never invented stuff, we would still have wars.

You could argue I suppose that a lot of inventions are put to use in wartime. This is because we put all our cards on the table and get really inventive when it comes to defending our own hides. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif In WW2, for example, radar was developed very quickly as it was a determining factor in the war's outcome...but the discovery of radio or its application in detecting objects in space had nothing to do with war. Same with nuclear technology and nerve gas.

We do have this cultural notion that war spurs the advancement of technology, and it is simply because us silly apes are still looking for the 'bigger stick.' http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif We are also looking for easier, yummier food...and a lot of our technology has been tied to pursue those goals through history as well. Refrigeration, the stove, the microwave...all advances in search of culinary excellence.

But no one would suggest that mankind's inventive nature is helped by hunger. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

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Zargon
03-04-2001, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by Zoom Rabbit:
but the discovery of radio or its application in detecting objects in space had nothing to do with war. Same with nuclear technology and nerve gas.


Ok, all nuclear technology is a direct result of war. The first nuclear reactors were built/designed not to make power(bi product) but to make Pu239 and U235, to be used in what?

NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

computers developed=cold war tech race with russians

Rogue 9
03-04-2001, 08:32 PM
oh yes and the most important invention in the world (next to computers that is) the microwave was discovered by mistake while a researcher worked with a radar, a technology whose whole purpose was military at the beginning, also GPS was purely military at the start, as was the Jeep which we all know is one of the best vehicles in the world(<FONT SIZE=1>OK, so thats my opinion</FONT> but the point stands Military research is reponsible for many medical advances, transportation advances and many things we take for granted as a household object.

Zoom Rabbit
03-04-2001, 11:15 PM
Nuclear weapons: the theories and research behind nuclear weapons technology was underway long before the war gor rolling...

Radar: The original discovery was when ships passed through a harbor next to some big city, the radio signals were being bounced back. It is interesting to note that an experimental radar array was in place in Hawaii when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor; the array even picked up the aproaching planes, but it wasn't then being used in a military capacity.

No black, no white. Just gray. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif Y'all need a good dose of zen!

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--Drunk dude in Independence Day

Admiral
03-05-2001, 12:39 AM
If my memory serves me correctly, they contacted the military and the military told the operators something must be wrong with the Radar.

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"Dulce bellum inexpertis."
(Sweet is war to those who have never experinced it.) Roman Proverb

Rogue 9
03-05-2001, 02:03 AM
they had several other indications that an assualt was planned but because of the peace talks going on with Japan, Americans assumed they would not attack us, maybe in world war III the Brits will bail US out instead of the way its been the previous two times

Zoom Rabbit
03-05-2001, 03:07 AM
*(Looks askance at Jabba and Fuzzy Panda.)*

On the other hand, probably not... http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

Rogue 9
03-05-2001, 03:12 AM
your right, since the next war will probably be nuclear I guess we can kiss the small isolated island target goodbye http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/frown.gif

Gold leader
03-05-2001, 08:20 AM
*Smack!*

Admiral
03-05-2001, 06:02 PM
sees a big red button that has the words "DON NOT PUSH UNLESS NUCLEAR WAR BREAKS OURT" wondering what will happen, pushes the button. Nuclear missel lauchs and denotantes over Dukes house.

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"Dulce bellum inexpertis."
(Sweet is war to those who have never experinced it.) Roman Proverb

Zoom Rabbit
03-05-2001, 08:59 PM
A small meteor would be more surgical.

Ninjas would be even more so... http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Taarkin
03-06-2001, 12:14 AM
A virus geneticly programmed to respond only to his DNA code before activating and causing symptoms such as massive combustion would still be better http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/tongue.gif

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Was I supposed to eat the heads too? 'Cause I took nooo prisioners!

Once again, evil is defeated through the use of decorative agricultural technology!

Official forum Psychic

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Zargon
03-06-2001, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Zoom Rabbit:
Nuclear weapons: the theories and research behind nuclear weapons technology was underway long before the war gor rolling...


The Manhattan Project (ie Nuclear Bomb project that produced the fat man and little boy) started in 1941............the war started when?

Zargon
03-06-2001, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by Gold leader:
Partially true. Economic growth and the inherent wealth prosper in peacetime, my friend.

if you are winning you prosper during war usually...we had a minor depression after WW2 cause the economy was high on war level production...it creates jobs...

i just noticed this and I dont know if anyone else hit this. Producing for war is what pulled germany out of depression before WW2......

Taarkin
03-06-2001, 01:01 AM
Potentially interesting note about pre-war Germany:
Just after WWI, a loaf of bread cost roughly 1 mark.
By 1922, a loaf of bread cost roughly six hundred <font size="900">BILLION</font> marks.

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Was I supposed to eat the heads too? 'Cause I took nooo prisioners!

Once again, evil is defeated through the use of decorative agricultural technology!

Official forum Psychic

Rogue 9
03-06-2001, 01:09 AM
I have one remark about WAR in General
We Are Right

Psycho Tycho
03-06-2001, 02:29 AM
Okay..

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Zoom Rabbit
03-06-2001, 03:26 AM
A note about the Manhattan Project: the initial contacts between the US government and Enrico Fermi for developing nuclear fission into a weapon took place in March of 1936, with Einstein becoming involved shortly thereafter. The project was put under the direction of the Office of Scientific Research and Development on Dec. 6, 1941...exactly one day before the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor that led to our official entry into the war.

Don't mess with me. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/tongue.gif I got search engines!

Admiral
03-06-2001, 02:37 PM
It is possible to make a nuke that doesn't give off the deadly radiation. Then we will see nuclear wars.

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"Dulce bellum inexpertis."
(Sweet is war to those who have never experinced it.) Roman Proverb

Rogue 9
03-06-2001, 03:25 PM
I think war is a powerful motivator towards progress, if a Society does not progress it dies, the first tools we built were weapons and the most sopisticated tools we build will probably continue to be weapons for along time, if a Society does not feel secure it will not invent none essential items, we would not have invented many things because we'ed be to worried about that <S>Canadian</S> Invasion Force always on the Horizon

Zoom Rabbit
03-06-2001, 08:05 PM
I just knew it.

Any idea how many spies you just exposed right here on this very forum? Things will never be the same...

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Zoom Rabbit
03-09-2001, 10:36 AM
I'm just posting this so there continues to be a box on the topics page which says Nute Gunray. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/smile.gif

Keyan Farlander
03-09-2001, 01:31 PM
LOL!

Gold leader
03-09-2001, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by Zargon:
i just noticed this and I dont know if anyone else hit this. Producing for war is what pulled germany out of depression before WW2......[/B]

That's the logical effect when you Keynes's theory in mind. The nazi's could have produced chocolate bunnies instead of tanks and still have the same succes. They created their own demand, increased production and thereby the national income.
The only problem; chocolate bunnies don't do that much collateral damage. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Psycho Tycho
03-09-2001, 09:51 PM
Nazi chocolate bunnies?

I can see the ad now: "Evil chocolate bunnies, taste good, feel evil." http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Rogue 9
03-10-2001, 12:40 AM
starts shooting chocalate bunnies with laser takes out a rabbit while he's at it. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Admiral
03-10-2001, 01:40 AM
Young one, no has yet to kill the Rabbit. But the Rabbits Cat is another story.

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"Dulce bellum inexpertis."
(Sweet is war to those who have never experinced it.) Roman Proverb

Darth Sceltor
03-10-2001, 02:46 AM
Mmmm, chocolate.

Rogue 9
03-10-2001, 02:57 AM
I see no reason to hurt innocent animals, would this cat be named Oreo

Zoom Rabbit
03-10-2001, 05:59 AM
Nope. Mickey posts here.

Oreo is a fat grouchy cat who doesn't get along with Mickey, so she posts over at a different forum--RS.Net.

http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/rolleyes.gif Cats...

Redwing
03-10-2001, 06:51 AM
I have seen no Oreo at RS.net. Who is Oreo?

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At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi.
At last we will have revenge.

Zoom Rabbit
03-11-2001, 07:05 AM
Oreo hasn't been on the computer in a long time. She's more into sunny windowsills and raiding the garbage can these days.

Cmdr. Cracken
03-11-2001, 01:47 PM
Neutron Bomb. Kills off all organic life, and in 48 hours, you can invade. leave all infastructure in tact.

Commander 598
03-11-2001, 07:00 PM
*mails a neutron bomb to cracken's place*

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How many gallons of alcohol can a human being consume?
Well lets find out...
*Begins drinking*

Zoom Rabbit
03-11-2001, 10:12 PM
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Loses track after a few quarts
Passes out
Dies.

Taarkin
03-12-2001, 01:20 AM
Craken's place dosen't have an infastructure!

In fact, his town-err, I promised I wouldn't say that again...

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Was I supposed to eat the heads too? 'Cause I took nooo prisioners!

Once again, evil is defeated through the use of decorative agricultural technology!

Official forum Psychic

Cmdr. Cracken
03-12-2001, 01:47 AM
YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Commander 598
03-12-2001, 02:20 AM
Who me??? http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

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How many gallons of alcohol can a human being consume?
Well lets find out...
*Begins drinking*

Zoom Rabbit
03-16-2001, 09:47 AM
**Bump!** http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Rogue15
03-17-2001, 12:09 AM
where?!

Zoom Rabbit
03-17-2001, 07:24 AM
**Whack!**

There!

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