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Jabba The Hunt
03-13-2001, 07:59 PM
right i went to floida over a year ago and the pool guy came round because our pool was very cold (i have to say for the rest of the holiday though it was at bath temp) anyway he fixes pool and has to wait to refil it while he is waiting my mum offers him a cup of tea and he says "no sor... wait is it british tea" my mum says yes and he agrees - the story was that he had always been told how bad american tea was but had never tried anything else and thought it was pretty good when a few years ago however he tried british tea he tasted what people meant - we were told the same that y we brought british tea with us. Anyway i would like the americans on this forum to tell us brits what they think and if you think american tea rocks then go find some british tea!!!!

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Admiral Zaarin
03-13-2001, 08:04 PM
Can't help there, I never did like hot drinks.

Darth Sceltor
03-13-2001, 08:46 PM
American tea r0x0r5. I do prefer iced tea, though.

Zoom Rabbit
03-13-2001, 10:02 PM
Earl Grey tea is pretty good, and there was a blend called 'Market Spice' I drank when I lived in the Seattle area.

Otherwise, it all pretty much tastes like lukewarm tap water with leaves soaked in it... http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/rolleyes.gif

Admiral
03-13-2001, 10:51 PM
I like Tetely Tea an Lipton Ice Tea. American Tea Rocks.

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JR2000Z
03-13-2001, 10:58 PM
I only like lemon sweeted tea. The regular doent really have any taste.

Keyan Farlander
03-13-2001, 11:31 PM
Bah, all tea sucks. All coffee sucks too.

Assassin
03-13-2001, 11:46 PM
ur all wrong..Chinese tea is the best

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Thrawn
03-14-2001, 12:19 AM
British chocolate sucks. Give me a Hershey bar any day!

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K_Kinnison
03-14-2001, 12:33 AM
British food sucks.

And actaully i do not drink any tea taht comes in bags. It has to be loose, and strained before i will drink it.

I prefer Oolong myself.

edlib
03-14-2001, 01:40 AM
Twinings English Breakfast or Earl Grey blends are my faves. Though I tend to drink Red Rose more because it's cheaper. Most of the other American brands are crap.

PS- I grew up with British grandparents.

Keyan Farlander
03-14-2001, 02:00 AM
ALL YOUR TEA ARE BELONG TO US!

Jabba The Hunt
03-14-2001, 04:55 AM
hey i know milkshake will back me up on this one but american chocolate is terrible. Now all the people that said american tea rocks i want your address and im going to send some real tea to it -

dark shadow in coner - "do you think they will tell you"

"yes im sure they will and when they do it will be too late! Wha ha ha ha!"

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"The warp cores gone the shield generators have been destoryed beyond repair and the phaser arrays are blown we will never be able to repair all this damage without a starbase"

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Rogue 9
03-14-2001, 05:37 AM
American Food is beter than all yall's stuff

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milkshake
03-14-2001, 06:37 AM
WHAT!!! Iv'e tasted Chocolate on both sides of the Atlantic, and I have to say that US chocolate SUX! British chocolate rocks so much! I should know, I'm an expert http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

I don't drik tea though

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Zoom Rabbit
03-14-2001, 09:03 AM
Well, your tea is so great, huh?!? *(Pushes Jabba off the deck of a ship in Boston Harbor, then steals the tea with a band of drunken indians.)* We'll be the judge of that!

Now, that's bound to start something... http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

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K_Kinnison
03-14-2001, 02:26 PM
British Chocolate is not really British chocolate (it is swiss). Niether is Curry (that is Inidian), British are re-knowned of picking up other countires habits and re-placing them with thier own, and then saying it was theirs all along

Why do you think they had all these sattilite countries? India, Australia, Middles east, Africa, some european. It was becasue Native British food SUCKS!

milkshake
03-14-2001, 05:27 PM
We actually had all them places because British WEATHER Sux!

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Admiral
03-14-2001, 08:11 PM
Britain sucks. America Rules. One we have not had a single violent change of power Britain........has not. America we have no mad cow disease Britain.....has (your beef Sucks). We have repeatedly kicked Britains but in American Revolution, war of 1812. American food is regulated it doesn't seem like yours is (I don't know if that is true just seems like it.) Second we have good weather and don't need to invade other countries with a poor excuse of the "white man's burden" to have. Lets see the United States is the only remaining Super Power. Also we don't have to support a usless King, Queen..... So BRITAIN'S FOOD SUCKS and ALL OF BRITIAN SUCKS

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Jem
03-14-2001, 08:15 PM
British tea is so good but I know better:
African Tea = excellent.
It's so good and I just had some 5 hours ago I take it with some senegalese friends (I'm the only non adult one) outside in front of my house. Anybody ever tasted it?

Zoom Rabbit
03-14-2001, 08:46 PM
Actually, I do have an authentic recipe for chai masala tea that I learned from Punjabi Indians...it is so good, I don't consider it tea but rather a flavored spice brew.

I doubt if I'll post it. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/rolleyes.gif It's a hard-won professional secret that I worked in a non-English speaking kitchen for a month to learn.

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Psycho Tycho
03-14-2001, 09:07 PM
I like to drink [i]Nestea[/b] Iced Tea. That stuff is da bomb!

JR2000Z
03-14-2001, 09:30 PM
NOW THATS BRISK BABY!!!!

Everybody knows Swiss chocolate is the best, Blue Bell makes the best ice cream, <s>I am the best forum member</s>, and American cheese is the best of cheeses.

(Mmmmmmmm....cheeeeeesssseee.)

JR2000Z
03-14-2001, 09:32 PM
(and Tycos got the evil 1111 post count.Kill him! http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif )

Zoom Rabbit
03-14-2001, 09:44 PM
'Curry' is not a spice, but actually a blend of spices. In India proper, there is no one curry blend used, although 'garam masala' has most of the ingredients (including turmeric, for the yellow color) for what we think of as curry. Their idea of a finished curry is usually quite hot and heavy on the chili powder. Curried dishes are found in India and through Southeast Asia into the Pacfic rim, having pretty much followed the course of southern Buddhism (by coincidence) through history.

I love to talk food. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/smile.gif

JR2000Z
03-14-2001, 09:55 PM
I still cant believe that you eat food.

Thrawn
03-14-2001, 09:57 PM
Notice how they aren't arguing over the historical details we've presented http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

what's that? Who saved you in WW II?

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Zoom Rabbit
03-14-2001, 10:05 PM
Who said I eat food? I just toss it around, burn the pan, put it on a hot plate and throw three or four half-ass dirty ones at the dishwasher while yelling at the waitress to come get her f***ing food out of my window befre I push it over the edge into the salad line. After all that, who wants to eat the stuff?

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Admiral
03-14-2001, 10:39 PM
don't forget about the first one now.

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Rogue 9
03-15-2001, 02:13 AM
who do ya think is gonna save 'em in WW III

Fondas
03-15-2001, 06:11 AM
You all have to admit that there a strange thing about Englishmen and tea, although you're right , tea came from China.

English or American chocolate ?????!!!!!

EVERYBODY knows that there is only one country that produces the best chocolate and that's Switzerland, with Austria coming close behind.



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Fondas
03-15-2001, 06:17 AM
Oh and I'm dead serious about this :

I don't know what you've been taught but WWII was NOT won by the Americans. Do me a favor and read some History, ok ?

US's help was invaluable but it's really offending to read every once in a while that they "saved our ass". Are you aware how much disrespectful is that statement towards the european people that died in combat, trying to drive the Nazi's off ?


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Redwing
03-15-2001, 06:21 AM
Fondas is right; the US was a major factor in winning WWII, but so were Britian, France, and many others. (especially Britian, as most others were eventually taken)

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Zoom Rabbit
03-15-2001, 09:41 AM
I prefer to think of it this way...a lot of us good guys stood up to the bad guys and we all paid the price for freedom. Whether we come from the United States, Greece, or Outer Xanadu shouldn't matter... http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

It is worth noting, however, that the war wasn't conducted in our (America's) backyards. While my grandfather may have put his life on the line to go over and fight...he had a peaceful, unbombed home to which he could count on returning after it was all over. Some paid a higher sacrifice, and that is worth noting.

It's the twenty-first century now, and the internet is revolutionizing our world by flooding open the gates of culture. National boundaries are becoming less relevant as people interact and conduct commerce across them; our world is not growing smaller, but we are finally growing into it.

*Sigh* I just wonder when all this will seep into our nationalistic little heads... http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

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Admiral
03-15-2001, 08:26 PM
I fully realize what happened in WWII we are just having fun. Also I don't want to get in a debate on the sacrifices made by the eropeans because the americans made just as many.

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"Dulce bellum inexpertis."
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Jabba The Hunt
03-15-2001, 08:43 PM
No you guys just came in at half time when you had something to lose from not entering!!! (my history teacher to me never to say this to an american that i could see(hip hip horray for the internet)!!!

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"The warp cores gone the shield generators have been destoryed beyond repair and the phaser arrays are blown we will never be able to repair all this damage without a starbase"

"Dont worry just wait till the next episode and it will all be sorted out"
jabbathehunt@hotmail.com

SlasherX
03-15-2001, 08:47 PM
Hey and this thread is bias!

Zoom Rabbit
03-15-2001, 09:03 PM
Well, who was sending you guys the convoys full of supplies that kept you from going all the way under before then, eh? http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

Oh, great...here we go. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/rolleyes.gif Why can't we have US versus Russia or US versus Mexico debates on this forum?

Andromeda
03-15-2001, 09:15 PM
anyone else find it extremely interesting that we are the only country on the planet, where if you ask someone what nationality they are, they will tell you german or austrian or whatever combination of various european ancestors they have..take me for instance, i am predominantly scottish with some irish and english thrown in. and everyone is always crusading for more rights and more government funding for their particular ethnic group because they don't want to be just american...but as soon as someone starts attacking our country we're all "americans" all of a sudden...gets on my nerves just a touch that we're all only americans when it suits us. every other country is suitably proud of where they're fromn all the time...

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Jem
03-15-2001, 09:24 PM
I'm a Canadian who was born in Brazil and currently living in Senegal, Africa. Travelling every 3 years to live in a diffferent country a travel again after 3 years etc etc. I am a Nomad....

[This message has been edited by Jem (edited March 15, 2001).]

Darth Sceltor
03-15-2001, 11:34 PM
Darn straight Andy!! I feel that way too. But if somebody asks me my nationality, I say I'm an XWA.netian!!

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Psycho Tycho
03-15-2001, 11:41 PM
I'm a XWA-Winger. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Rogue 9
03-16-2001, 12:55 AM
I meant no Disrepect to our European Allies, What I meant is that had we not entered when we did it might have been to late for the Allies to win, It was the Americans who brought Convoy tactics to WWI and the Anti-Submarine Destroyer to WWII both of these were critical to the resupply efort without which there was no way the Allies would have won.

Admiral
03-16-2001, 02:51 AM
Alright Jabba you know your wrong and you are pissing me off with comments just meant to get people angry. Now on the WWII, our country was bombed twice at Pearl Harbor, and the Japanese sent bombs attached to ballons into the jet stream. Those bombs did reach the US and some did go off.

On to the invovlement of the US into the war, and why some americans say we saved Britain. The battle of Britain was own by the RAF, however it didn't make Britain safe by anymeans. In all likelyhood Britain would have been invaded if Hitler didn't make the dumb mistake an ordered German forces to create a second front by attacking Russia and breaking the nonagreesion pac they had. This took off pressure from Britain and saved them from an invasion. Then on December 7th 1941 the US enters the war and fights on two fronts.

The battle of the Atlantic, german U-boats were stricking cargo ships bound to Britain from the US with almost invunerablity. In the end with the development of Sonar and just better protection of Convoys the battle was own. Now we come to D-Day, To be correct I should say the invasion of Normandy. This will take place on five beach heads Omaha, Star, Juno, Utah, and another one that escapes my memory. The US forces took Omaha and Utah two of the most heavily defended beach heads and US forces took heavy causalties (this is in reference to all the others that died on that day). From that point another goof up by the germans allowed the allies to gain a foothold along the France beach line and push in land. After that comes the Battle for of the Argon Forest and Battle of the Buldge which was the last German offensive. IN the Russian front the Germans were stopped at Stalingrad because of the harsh winter, and they were also pushed back.

The air war, the German Luffwaffe was basically superior to the allies at the time and because of more blunders the battle of Britain was lost. Allies didn't win air superiority really until american factories started to produce and ship the famous P-51 mustang, P-31 lightning. This was when air supremacy was won.

On the Pacific theater the US was the main force fighting there. The war was turned at the battle of Midway were US carries destroyed 4 Japanese Characters. With the use of an Island hopping campaing the Japanese were pushed back to their main land were two Atomic Bombs wer dropped saving millions of lives in the process.

In the end over 40 million people died in that one war, they were not just Jews, or Brits, or French, but they were Americans, Poles, Russians. All fought bravely for the respective countries even if they were the enemies. In the end the war would not have been won with out the americans involvement, the determination of the British people and the bravery of all the fighting men that died in the service of freedom.

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Admiral
03-16-2001, 02:54 AM
I know that was a very brief summary of the War I left out some battles like when the Brits bested the Dessert fox, but I didn't want to go in to extreme detail.

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edlib
03-16-2001, 03:14 AM
Boy, this thread sure stopped being fun.

Rogue 9
03-16-2001, 04:07 AM
History is Fun http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif
History Channel Anyone? Americans only sorry

Jabba The Hunt
03-16-2001, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by Andromeda:
anyone else find it extremely interesting that we are the only country on the planet, where if you ask someone what nationality they are, they will tell you german or austrian or whatever combination of various european ancestors they have..take me for instance, i am predominantly scottish with some irish and english thrown in. and everyone is always crusading for more rights and more government funding for their particular ethnic group because they don't want to be just american...but as soon as someone starts attacking our country we're all "americans" all of a sudden...gets on my nerves just a touch that we're all only americans when it suits us. every other country is suitably proud of where they're fromn all the time...



yeah i have to agree

oh and admiral i didnt mean to offend anyone im just having a laugh this post needs to get back into the mood of witty insults back and forth across the alantic (sp)

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"The warp cores gone the shield generators have been destoryed beyond repair and the phaser arrays are blown we will never be able to repair all this damage without a starbase"

"Dont worry just wait till the next episode and it will all be sorted out"
jabbathehunt@hotmail.com

Fondas
03-16-2001, 06:44 AM
Ok, let me give you the background of Hitler's nemesis, ie the so called "Operation Barbarossa"

The aformentioned operation was the intent of Germans to make a rapid strike to the Eastern Russian Front with massive firepower and advanced tactics.

Why did it fail ? TIMING ! the Germans invaded too late and the fierce russian winter caught on them. That was not due to bad planning but to the change of scenery at the Balkans Area

The operation demanded all of the Panzer Divisions to be present but unfortunatelly for Hitler, Greece and Yugoslavia spoiled his plans.


On October the 28th, 1940 Italy invaded Greece. They expected this to be a walk in the park but on the contrarery, We managed to push them back and literally threw them back to the sea, while RAF was providing air support.

This course of events worried Hitler, 'cause his main oil supply, the Ploetsi oil fields in Rumania, was too close and at stake ! So he was forced to invade both Greece and Yugoslavia on April 6th, 1941.

The defenders, exhausted by their previous fight were easily defeated by the superior German War machine. Yugoslavia capitulated on the 17th of april and Greece on the 23rd.

This was the first delay. Greek and ogoslavian resistance kept on fighting on the mountains, disrupting supply lines, thus forcing the Wehrmacht to keep a large number of troops and panzers in the area. This fact delayed the Barbarossa just enough for the Russians to gain the advantage, through the harsh but familiar to them Siberian winter.

The Invasion to Normandy was a victory of Allied Intelligence. Hitler was mislead to believe that the Allies would invade somewhere along the French coastlines, so he diverted troops there. Along with fact that the Easter front was still holding strong, allies got the opening they had been waiting !

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Deac
03-16-2001, 06:43 PM
We brits built some of America. Sure, our ancestors made some mistakes, but that was them, NOT US! We brits aren't all like the US media potrays us. I haven't had fish and chips in a long time. I like eating internation. I love sushi. Curry is good. Pizza is a universal constant, whether American or Italian style.
And as for the war, America was a help. We were on our own, with most of our allies occupied. You came in when you needed too, I don't blame you. The nazis did nothing to you (until they declared war). You were smart to avoid war. War is wrong.

Zoom Rabbit
03-16-2001, 07:24 PM
Exactly. Deac, you have stumbled upon the same reasons that we Americans were using for not joining the war at the time. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/wink.gif

No, war is never right. But when we're in a situation like we were with the Axis...war is, unfortunately, sometimes absolutely required of the good guys.

Let us hope we're never that screwed again. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/smile.gif

Jabba The Hunt
03-16-2001, 09:03 PM
the one thing i will agree with you americans on is that your language is better (yes there is no american english - there is american and english) yes i say first floor instead of ground floor - elevator instead of lift although i dont admit this readily i like winding my american friends up by picking on points of conflict!!!

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"The warp cores gone the shield generators have been destoryed beyond repair and the phaser arrays are blown we will never be able to repair all this damage without a starbase"

"Dont worry just wait till the next episode and it will all be sorted out"
jabbathehunt@hotmail.com

Admiral
03-17-2001, 02:48 AM
You know that the ice cream cone was invented in america, so was sushi, the first sub was invented by the americans in the Revolutionary war (american....). With WWII, don't forget that the allies had a lot of help from Hitler, ie his mistakes. For instance We were able to get a foot hold in Normady because no one want to make him up so the Panzers couldn't be released untill he said so. My prediction is that another world war will happen once the nukes come down to a point were the countries can live through a strike, that or terrorism will become the new kind of warfare. Both are seemlingly bleak predictions.

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"Dulce bellum inexpertis."
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Thrawn
03-17-2001, 03:35 AM
What an optimist!

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Rogue 9
03-17-2001, 04:09 AM
Americas Developing an Anti Balistic missle system, soon we shall be able to blow most incoming boggies out of the sky and then retaliate after giving them the appropriate amount of time to fear the rath of our weapons http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Jabba The Hunt
03-17-2001, 07:51 AM
now milky its 2-1 ha!!!

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"The warp cores gone the shield generators have been destoryed beyond repair and the phaser arrays are blown we will never be able to repair all this damage without a starbase"

"Dont worry just wait till the next episode and it will all be sorted out"
jabbathehunt@hotmail.com

Innror
03-17-2001, 12:32 PM
I agree with most people here that America certainly helped a lot to win the war, however i just think it's important to bear in mind that the germans suffered 80% of their casualties on the eastern front. The russians lost 32 million men and women according to the latest figures i've heard, so i think it's fair to say that the war in europe was mainly fought and won on the eastern front.

Deac
03-17-2001, 03:04 PM
"If the British empire lasts a thousand years, men will still say, 'This was her finest hour.'"

That's true of all the Allies. It was our finest hour.

Jabba The Hunt
03-17-2001, 09:17 PM
and im its finest person :-)

Rogue 9
03-17-2001, 10:53 PM
Its a Sad day for the U.K. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Psycho Tycho
03-18-2001, 12:05 AM
That's too bad..

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Admiral
03-18-2001, 01:12 AM
If Jabba is UK's finest the Briatin really must suck. http://www.xwingalliance.com/forums/biggrin.gif

World War II is a war that we had to fight, were right to fight, and yet even though we were victorious on Over 40 million died in one war, imagine how different the world might be if even a 1/8 of that number lived.

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"Dulce bellum inexpertis."
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Rogue 9
03-18-2001, 04:03 AM
no point in considering it, all the good wishes in the world won't bring a single person back, better to just appretiate what they did and not question it.