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Revan13251
06-21-2006, 03:11 PM
After escaping Telos there is a cutscene with a repupblic commander and the security head on Telos. If you are a female character, the commander is carth yet he isn't a character throughout the remainder of the game. What do you think about this?

Mace MacLeod
06-21-2006, 03:39 PM
Actually, if you said Revan was Dark Side in your first conversation with Atton, you get Carth's cutscenes whether you're male or female IIRC.

My first reaction to seeing Carth again was something along the lines of: "Oh no, not that whiny b!tch again...!"

DarthOxyClean
06-21-2006, 03:45 PM
Actually, if you said Revan was Dark Side in your first conversation with Atton, you get Carth's cutscenes whether you're male or female IIRC.

Nope, if you say that Revan was LIGHT SIDE, Carth shows up.

Diego Varen
06-21-2006, 03:55 PM
I thought it was great when Carth returned in TSL, because he was one of my favourite Characters.

Lantzen
06-21-2006, 04:22 PM
What to say, wanted him to play a bigger part in the game, he is after all a admiral, and its good that you get conversation with him about Revan if you set Revan as lightside female.

Jae Onasi
06-21-2006, 05:17 PM
Being a Carth fan (no, really), I was thrilled to see him back, though my first thought was 'What idiot put him in that gawdawfully bright and ugly armor?'

Venom750
06-21-2006, 05:41 PM
I second that Jae

Darkkender
06-21-2006, 05:47 PM
I was hoping for more interaction with him personally. No matter what direction you take in a unmodded Kotor game Carth always survives so to have him reappear was expected by me. The fact that he is just cutscene Carth was a major disapointment though. As to the LS/DS revan routine I think I recall seeing him either way on that. Infact if I recall I think I've seen Carth's video clip weather Revan was male female as well.

Just as point of reference Carth is not that whiny. I've met much whinier real life guys. Carth was very much like the soldier who has come back home to late to save his family. He was constantly tormented by the loss and the guilt that he couldn't do anything to stop it. Then to top that off it his mentor betrayed him and was the reason for Carth's family being dead. Truth is minus the crazy factor that Mel Gibsons character Sgt. Martin Riggs portrays in the Lethal weapon movies is pretty much Carth in a package.

BaranDoSage
06-21-2006, 08:24 PM
I was pretty excited actually. I thought that it was good that they had camo appearances or references to some of the characters from the original KotOR

Point Man
06-21-2006, 09:27 PM
I was glad to see him, too. I didn't see him as a whiner in KOTOR. I took it as a challenge to get him to open up to me. I'm ambivalent about the size of his role in TSL. One one hand, I wanted him to have a bigger role. On the other hand, I'm not sure what they could have done to integrate him into the story of TSL any more than he was.

PoiuyWired
06-21-2006, 09:41 PM
What were they thinking when they give him that armor though, he needs a makeover, Queeer Eye style!!

But yeah, good to see he made it.

90SK
06-22-2006, 12:06 AM
Carth and I were a team in KotOR I, so it was neat to have him make some cameos. The conversation between him and the Exile at the end of the game was a nice tie in. I only wish he could have given some insight as to what had happened to everyone else, or at least some details of Revan's exploits after the war.

deathdisco
06-22-2006, 01:09 AM
I was hoping to see more of Bastila but is was good to see familiar characters.

No matter what direction you take in a unmodded Kotor game Carth always survives so to have him reappear was expected by me.

Not if Revan is DS female and you complete the romance with him. He dies on the Star Forge. Revan can have Bastila kill him or she can do it herself.

reven0123
06-22-2006, 09:19 AM
i quite liked carth myself if thier is a third kotor id love to see him and atton toghter i wonder who would shoot the other first over wanting to protect the main character?

Revan13251
06-22-2006, 11:37 AM
I recall that every time i was a female character I saw carth and when I was male i saw some other guy

Lantzen
06-22-2006, 01:47 PM
Dosent mather what gender you are, if you set Revan as lightside then Carth will be the admiral of the republic

Raven_Onasi
06-29-2006, 01:56 AM
Being a Carth Onasi fan, I clapped my hands and gave out a gleeful squeal that startled my dad. After I calmed myself, I had a smile from ear to ear.

I know that he is a computer animated image but he was my favorite character in KOTOR and I was hopping so much that he would be in TSL.

I too was hopping he would have a bigger part then he did, but I was over joyed for the part(s) he did have.

I know, I know, I am sooooooooooo pathetic!!

mjpb3
06-29-2006, 03:16 AM
I kept wondering when I would get to the part where I could have Carth join my party. Little did I know then that he doesn't. WAAAAAH! I wanted Carth on my team again. :(

I know, I know, I am sooooooooooo pathetic!!Join the club then, because I am a hopeless Carthoholic myself. ;)

Jackel
06-29-2006, 03:57 AM
Not if Revan is DS female and you complete the romance with him. He dies on the Star Forge. Revan can have Bastila kill him or she can do it herself.
Only via a mod though. In the core game this didnt happen.

YertyL
06-29-2006, 06:46 AM
Only via a mod though. In the core game this didnt happen.
Nope, this is core game - you just have to complete the romance ...

igyman
06-29-2006, 10:00 AM
When I saw him in TSL it was like :What!! Look at him! An Admiral!
Then I saw he didn't appear too much in the game and... nothing.

HerbieZ
06-30-2006, 05:05 PM
Carth made the first game believable, he took everything as a skeptic. Fantastic addition, i thought his part was underused in the second gamwe though. A more lengthy scene was needed. For explaination of what happened to him in 5 years.

Mace MacLeod
06-30-2006, 06:48 PM
Nope, if you say that Revan was LIGHT SIDE, Carth shows up.

Right, rightrightright. My mistake.

And everyone, please. Carth is whinier than a dozen Evanescence songs. My 12 year-old daughter has a lower whines-per-square-inch ratio.

Nema_Suneimi
07-01-2006, 11:50 AM
Oh, I love Carth, and was very glad to see him in TSL, but like many others I was sorry that he was only a cutscene character. Also, finding out that the canonical Revan is LS *male* sort of depresses me, as that whole wonderful romance between female Revan and Carth would never have existed. I still get to sighing when he says, "Tell her Carth Onasi is waiting for her." If only the female Exile and Atton could have had some more banter (I always imagine that Atton goes with the Exile in the end, and grows into less of a fool and more of a hero).

I'd welcome a KotOR 3 in which Revan returns and Carth becomes a party member again.

And Canderous, T3, and HK can stick around, too. =)

Or a continuation of the Exile's story, with Atton and Bao-Dur included. Although I'm not sure how they'd manage a story with either Revan or the Exile in which everyone has to develop from level 1 again.

Whatever the case, I just want more romance, more fun dialogue.

Right, rightrightright. My mistake.

And everyone, please. Carth is whinier than a dozen Evanescence songs. My 12 year-old daughter has a lower whines-per-square-inch ratio.


I have the .mp3 of HK-47 mocking Carth and it makes me laugh so hard!

"Mockery: 'Oh, Master! I do not trust you! I cannot trust you, or anyone ever again!'"

Torthane
07-01-2006, 03:50 PM
Oh, I love Carth, and was very glad to see him in TSL, but like many others I was sorry that he was only a cutscene character. Also, finding out that the canonical Revan is LS *male* sort of depresses me, as that whole wonderful romance between female Revan and Carth would never have existed. I still get to sighing when he says, "Tell her Carth Onasi is waiting for her." If only the female Exile and Atton could have had some more banter (I always imagine that Atton goes with the Exile in the end, and grows into less of a fool and more of a hero).

I'd welcome a KotOR 3 in which Revan returns and Carth becomes a party member again.

And Canderous, T3, and HK can stick around, too. =)

Or a continuation of the Exile's story, with Atton and Bao-Dur included. Although I'm not sure how they'd manage a story with either Revan or the Exile in which everyone has to develop from level 1 again.

Whatever the case, I just want more romance, more fun dialogue.

I am in the process of making a Female Exile / Atton romance mod, as well as a Male Exile / Visas romance mod. I plan to tie in a side quest or two and the mod will be full voice, (I can fake Atton's voice, but how the heck am I going to do Visas?) I am going to change the end video to include a sequence narrated by Atton / Visas as well. It could be a little while but I am working on it. "Oh and one more thing, I wanted to tell you that...that I...I...well I thought you might like these pazzak cards." - Atton Rand

Nema_Suneimi
07-02-2006, 12:11 PM
I am in the process of making a Female Exile / Atton romance mod, as well as a Male Exile / Visas romance mod. I plan to tie in a side quest or two and the mod will be full voice, (I can fake Atton's voice, but how the heck am I going to do Visas?) I am going to change the end video to include a sequence narrated by Atton / Visas as well. It could be a little while but I am working on it. "Oh and one more thing, I wanted to tell you that...that I...I...well I thought you might like these pazzak cards." - Atton Rand

LOL, that's a nice line. Cool that you can mimic Atton's voice -- I played around with doing Visas but just can't get it right, she always sounds so masochistic and it rubs me the wrong way (even though I like Kelly Hu).

Raevan
07-02-2006, 01:35 PM
when i saw Carth in kotor II ( and to be honest i hate Carth s guts) i was thinking .......die already....!!!!!!!

deathdisco
07-03-2006, 01:23 AM
Only via a mod though. In the core game this didnt happen.

That mod adds the cut Lightside version of that ending wich is not in the game.Instead of killing Carth he convinces you to return to the light. You kill Bastila then you and Carth go down with the Star Forge sacrificing yourself.