How to change the Earth's orbit? JUMP!

[Dagobahn Eagle]

http://www.venehammerschlag.com/worldjumpday/header.gif
World Jump Day (http://www.worldjumpday.org/)

Theory: If 600 million people jump at the same time at just the right time, it'll shift Earth's orbit and save us from global warming.

Now who's gonna be jumpin' tomorrow:cool:? ...No. Not me.

(It might set off an earthquake that you can actually feel, though. So it won't be for nothing. And hey, you're burning fats:p).

[toms]

Now who's gonna be jumpin' tomorrow:cool:?

The Day After Tomorrow.

Actually.

:p

[Jeff]

That's a pretty interesting concept, will it actually work even if enough people did it? I know I'll forget about it :p

[Char Ell]

:eyeraise: How do people come up with this stuff?

No, I'm not jumping since 1) I don't think 600 million people will be jumping at the same time tomorrow and 2) I don't think 600 million people jumping at the same time will have any effect on global warming. :roleyess:

Hey, WTF? is leading WTF? by one vote! :lol:

[jon_hill987]

Why don't we just put a giant ice cube in the sea like they did on futurama?

[Writer]

Here's an added twist to this bizarre idea: if the same number of people jump on opposite sides of the earth, won't it stay in the same place? :eek:


:p

[Dagobahn Eagle]

That occured to me, too: What if they do it wrong?

"Goddamn it, the Aussies weren't supposed to be jumping:eek:!" [Earth goes 50 000 km closer to the Sun and starts rotating slower].

[Bob Lion54]

Here's an added twist to this bizarre idea: if the same number of people jump on opposite sides of the earth, won't it stay in the same place? :eek:


:p
OMG!!! It would cause the Earth to implode in on itself!! I'll wake up in China!


Crap. I don't speak Chinese...

[Dagobahn Eagle]

Would you believe me if I said Slate Magazine actually answered that one (though on a smaller scale, namelly cooling down a swimming pool by means of many ice cubes)?

Answer: It'd take way too much ice.

I know you were joking, but hey...

[ET Warrior]

So it's been awhile since my physics classes, but don't we constitute something of a closed system? (We being us and the earth) And therefore no amount of jumping by any amount of people would be able to affect our current trajectory?

[Dagobahn Eagle]

Yesh. But tell the jumping people, not us:).

[TSR]

ha. fools. i, on the other hand, much prefer to hop. that makes a much bigger impact on nthe floor :D

[Dagobahn Eagle]

Not enough of an impact. I propose running 600 million tankers filled with gasoline off a high cliff at the same time.

[edlib]

Here's a better idea: Detonate every nuke in the world in the exact same place at the exact same time. All the conventional explosives, too.

Let's just see what that does.

Now we just need to decide on a place... Hmmm... New Jersey, maybe? ;) :D

[Tyrion]

Speaking of which, wouldn't the detonation of the Tsar Bomba(Largest nuclear bomb ever detonated -50 megatons of TNT- create more force than 600 million people jumping?

[narfblat]

Here's a better idea: Detonate every nuke in the world in the exact same place at the exact same time. All the conventional explosives, too.

Let's just see what that does.

Now we just need to decide on a place... Hmmm... New Jersey, maybe? ;) :D
No, it should be Massachusetts. :p

Even if we could change earth's orbit, it wouldn't be a good idea.

[Datheus]

Speaking of which, wouldn't the detonation of the Tsar Bomba(Largest nuclear bomb ever detonated -50 megatons of TNT- create more force than 600 million people jumping?

The math is actually pretty simple. It's just a matter of comparing the mass of Earth versus the force needed to accelerate it against the gravity of the sun. However, I'm too lazy to look up the formulas and the numbers.

But given how much force it takes to accelerate a space shuttle (109,000 kg) up out of the atmosphere takes god only knows how much force.. When you compare that to 5.9742×10^24 kg (the mass of the Earth), the Earth is 54,809,174,311,926,605,505 (or 54.8 quintillion, or 54 millions of millions of millions) times more massive than the space shuttle.

[Joetheeskimo]

The Day After Tomorrow.

Actually.

:p

Ah, hahahaha!




This isn't a very original idea. I've seen a million "Ask Mr. Science" questions asking, "If everyone in China jumped off a chair at the same time, would anything happen?" People are too tiny compared to good ol' Earth. *pat pat*

[Seph]

I might miss the time by 2 seconds and screw it all up...
If they were smart they would've done this on a day where they set up a bunch of hard rock and metal shows so people would actually be jumping. more jumps, more people is probably better than 5 people at the same time.

At least you'd have good music to listen too.

[MrWally]

..w..t..f..?

Who is to say that the earth won't go in the other direction, if it DID actually move, I mean? I mean, then it would speed up global warming and we'd be screwed even faster. I mean, scientists already are saying that because of global warming all plant life will die off within 100 years, do you really want it to be even sooner? GAH people are stupid.

That's of course, assuming that anything like this is remotely possibly :P

But you do gotta admit, they've gotten LOTS of believers. 599 Million people? Holy crap.

[Black Knight of Keno]

This is so old. There was one already at some point, if I remember correctly. Besides, if 600 million people jump at the same time al laround the world, it won't cause anything to the orbit as every jump neutralises the one on the other side of the world

[MrWally]

Except, they're probably counting on the fact that half of the world will be sleeping while the other half is jumping? Because it's happening at midnight for me, so most (normal :P) people wouldn't bother staying up just to jump.

EDIT: Wow they're popular, every time you refresh the page the members counter goes up O_O

Watch it all be a scheme just to get 600,000,000 email addresses :P

[TSR]

i've just given the second option a nudge into the lead. i think it's values and such are much more clearer than the first. >_>

i for one am not doing this... much more conventional and realistic ideas catch me. Why dont we all just turn the bl**dy lights off when we leave a room?

and just for the fun of it :
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/8140/205yx4noa7.jpg

[Dagobahn Eagle]

:rofl:

But yes, it could be a "fake" counter. And then when the countdown his 0 they publish the names and e-mails of all the poeple they fooled:p.

[jebbers]

posted this along time ago (http://lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=162526) :dozey:

[Black Knight of Keno]

posted this along time ago (http://lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=162526) :dozey:
Thought so

[Dagobahn Eagle]

But then again, there's more evidence of this than there is about Gods, and billions of people believe in them.

[Commander Obi-Wan]

Count me in.

[MeleeMaster]

What?!

LOL, if those crazy dudes actually get 600,0000 people to do their bidding (to jump) this is what's going to happen afterwards:

:urpdude::urpdude::urpdude::urpdude:


Then after that:
:bluskel::bluskel::bluskel::bluskel:

[Sigundr]

All the nukes in teh world at the same place at same time would, like, freaking seperate Asia in to two continents. that is, if they don't blow it off the face of this earth first. :firemad:

[St. Jimmy]

MISSED IT! hmm... didn't feel anything... are they going to do this anually or what?
I say next year we install hydro's on all the cars in the world and then get them to go all at the same time and satellites can watch the world rock! This is good for three reasons.
1. All the cars in the world will have hydrollics*however you spell it!
2. It would be cool to see the effect (if there was one)
3. All the cars in the world will have hydrollics!
WHO'S WITH ME!!! (probably no one...)

[MrWally]

MISSED IT! hmm... didn't feel anything... are they going to do this anually or what?
I say next year we install hydro's on all the cars in the world and then get them to go all at the same time and satellites can watch the world rock! This is good for three reasons.
1. All the cars in the world will have hydrollics*however you spell it!
2. It would be cool to see the effect (if there was one)
3. All the cars in the world will have hydrollics!
WHO'S WITH ME!!! (probably no one...)


Actually... we have just under 7 hours left, you didn't miss anything.

Not like there's anything to miss :P

And that hydraulics idea was...REALLY...stupid...

[Dagobahn Eagle]

Why didn't I think of Futurama before now? The scene where all the world's robots passed gas at the same time, thus propelling the Earth away from the Sun:rolleyes:?

"We're calculating the results" -heh, good luck.

[BongoBob]

I can calculate their results.

"We didn't do s***"

[MarcusLeCoy]

Destroy the robots. They are causing it all.

But really,how would this work? If people in America and Asia jumped at the same time... nothing really would happen would it? :P

[St. Jimmy]

Actually... we have just under 7 hours left, you didn't miss anything.

But I went to the web site and it said the jump was over! :cry6: :blubounc: :grnbounc: :urpboun: :bounc4: :ltblubou: :bounmult: :bounfire2 :bounfire: See? they're all jumping!

[Sigundr]

OMFG, retarded people actually fell for it. it said they had 600,248,012 registered jumpers. wtf

[MrWally]

aww snap, I missed it!

:P

[BongoBob]

OMFG, retarded people actually fell for it. it said they had 600,248,012 registered jumpers. wtf

They can say whatever they want, there's no way they had that many people.

In related news, I have 34 toes, and one is made of candy corn. And anime ;)

[MrWally]

A toe made out of candy corn?!

O
M
G


lucky.

[toms]

I jumped, anyone feel any cooler? Cos right now its FAR TOO HOT in the UK..... :(

[St. Jimmy]

oh yeah? what's the temp' right now where you are toms?

[toms]

Its cooled down today, but the last two days were record temeratures in for July in the UK. It was around 35 here... and up to 37 in a few places like london. (Where i happened to have a job interview yesterday.. not good timing!)

Schools are closing early, trains are running slow, roads are melting, my computer was overheating... its funny how the UK falls apart whenever it gets too hot or cold... other countries seem to cope fine. ;)

Maybe the jump worked as it seems to be getting cooler...

[Char Ell]

Oh yeah? Well the region I live in looks like it will hit 46 today. How about that for some heat? :D

But I guess I deserve it cuz I didn't jump. :(

[MrWally]

Both yesterday and today the high has been about 23. But 3 or 4 days ago it reached 43 :D

I guess the jump worked XP

[BongoBob]

Damn Europeans with your screwy numbers!

Pfft, you guys can suck it up because it's been nowhere near the vegas high, which was 110 the other day.

[MrWally]

3 or 4 days ago it reached 43 :D

Pfft, you guys can suck it up because it's been nowhere near the vegas high, which was 110 the other day.


lol Bongo, 43 Degrees C is the same as 110 Degrees F :D

[toms]

Thats what i don't get... many countries regularly get higher temperatures... but it doesn't cause their roads and train tracks to melt and everythign to collapse. I guess its more about what you are used to...

[MrWally]

Well in chicago we're used to the weather changing like crazy. Earlier this year in April it was in the 70s (F) one day, and the very next it was in the upper 20s and snowing.

No joke.

[St. Jimmy]

I live in Australia where we have normal weather (heh) and once it got to 54 (C) it was pretty hot.

[Black Knight of Keno]

Well done you foo's who jumped. Now that you've sped us enought, we're gonna either go further into space 'till we're all blocks of ice or towards the sun, which means we'll be buning up soon. Well done! *shakes every jumpers' hand*

>_>
<_<

Yeah, jump wasn't even worth a steaming pile of crap. Well, at least some nerds got excercise.
"Mom! Help me up from my chair! I gotta make a difference... And bring a gallon of coke and a couple of pizzas with you!"

[TiE23]

I post it again.

http://qntm.org/moving

It would be like having an ant jump on a cruiseliner and expecting it to hit the bottom of the ocean. It's impossible.

#

Getting everybody in the world to jump at the same time.

Okay, folks, let's look at this. Suppose everybody on the planet weighed 100kg (which is an overestimate, 70kg is more like it, probably less). Suppose that there were ten billion people (another overestimate - there are about 6.4 billion at the time of writing). Suppose that they all jumped ten metres in the air (a huge overestimate, fifty centimetres is more likely and probably much less). Suppose they were all at the exact same point on Earth (which they won't be, thus mitigating the effects of the jump). And lastly, suppose that they all jumped at precisely the same instant, which of course they will not, seeing as the time difference between the fastest watch and the slowest will likely be over five minutes.

Altogether that's a mass of one billion tonnes of humanity jumping ten metres in the air.

The Earth has a mass of... let's be nice and round it WAY down to 10^21 tonnes. That's a trillion times heavier than all of humanity. Which means the distance the Earth moves when everybody jumps will be one trillionth of the distance that all the people jumped: that is to say, 10-11 metres, or about half the radius of a hydrogen atom.

It gets better. Even assuming the Earth did move by some significant distance when everybody jumped, just think about it: it'd move right back again! You jump up, the Earth goes down: you fall down, the Earth comes up to meet you. Jumping up and down to try to move the Earth is like mounting a fan on a sailboat, pointing the fan at the sail, and expecting the boat to move forwards. It just doesn't work!

[narfblat]

You just have to spoil everyone's fun, don't you Tie? :p
btw, that lost a little formatting when you quoted it - 1021 vs 10^21 tonnes. Big difference

[Dagobahn Eagle]

Not going to work. I wish it was that easy, but it isn't.

Now let's have a psychic session: What's the WJD team going to do?

Leave the page as it is ("calculations will be done in a few days").
Admit to being morons.
Forge calculations and start preparing for a "WJD 2".


They can say whatever they want, there's no way they had that many people.

In related news, I have 34 toes, and one is made of candy corn. And anime And I'm dating Chihiro. She's just 10, but that's OK, I'm only 9.

[MTV2]

wtf? there are people on all sides of the earth and if they all jumped nothing would happen. and even if everyone did jump in one place, it wouldnt move the earth, theres not enough force. hell, meteorites and comets and asteroids hit the earth and the earth doesnt move. howstupid can someone get? its all a load of bull****.

[Dagobahn Eagle]

But then again, "it's just a jump". The worst thing that happens is that you jumped, which isn't much of an effort. The best thing that happens (in your eyes, if you don't know that your efforts are worthless) is that you save the Earth from global warming.

I didn't jump, I wouldn't if given a second chance, and I know this is idiotic. I'm just sayin'.

[TiE23]

I noticed something. How the hell did they get 600 million people to sign up? That's a tenth of the planet. I guess that there isn't that much more people who have access to the internet. I would guess that 600 million would be like if every single person who had access would have gone to that site and signed up. Really retarded in my opinion.

I bet they're going to lie about "calculations" like how they lied about the number of people signed up. I would guess that maybe 10 million tops signed up, and less than a percent actually jumped and most likely jumped at the wrong moment.

Edit:

This hoax has been put forth in the "media" before, as an item in the Weekly World News in 1993, according to this link http://www.subgenius.com/subg-digest/v4/0069.html.

The counter for the site, measuring registered jumpers, was also inaccurate. The number of registered jumpers would go both up and down. For a point of reference, at 21:37 on 18th July 2006, it was at 598,196,296 but just 15 minutes later it had dropped to around 598,106,000. [3] Less than 12 hours before the event the site's counter read that there were 600,256,820 registered jumpers, over 50% of all internet users

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Jump_Day

Anyone follow Eon8? Same thing but less weird.

[St. Jimmy]

I think something may have gone wrong... It's getting warmer here...

[toms]

Its getting hot again here too... everyone jump again on my mark...

..ready.. mark!