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goldenflames
10-05-2006, 02:18 PM
basicly its just a revan meets exile thing but complicated

there are 2 versions of this mod

kotor 1
ok i'm thinking at the end of the game mayb you could play with revan and after all of the malak stuff and leading the sith army / being a hero you can go to malacore and meet a hooded jedi (exile) and s/he has been stranded on the remains of malacore for weeks now trying to think about what to do now (after being exiled) and s/he then attacks (in rage) you as you are a jedi or follows the jedi code and attacks you as a you are a sith.

then after the battle you can persuade the exile to join your side of the force or leave the exile as s/he is

kotor 2
just meet revan hidden away on telos and s/he joins your party as a jedi or sith (influenced by what happens on peragus and what you say)

but no one knows it is revan and so revan cals him/herself somthing (possibly naver cos its revan backwards) and revan joins your party as your puppet as an old jedi/sith who either trys to persuade you to a jedi/ sith or aids you as a jedi / sith.

when you get to the telos acadamy atris talks to a handmaiden about this mysterious naver and says she recognieses naver

when on dant you find out from master...( uh.. var... or somthing like that) that it is revan ( i chose him as you dont meet the other masters in kotor 1)

revan then talks to you about him/herself and a up comes a dialog breifly talking about kotor 1

finaly the problem of krea, well as she was called traya before "naver" wont recognise her and krea wont know "naver" either, the only problem is that when you find out krea will know... but not if you forget to ell her ;)

and thats it wow i write more here than i do in school lol

Darth Maleval
10-05-2006, 02:34 PM
that actually sounds really cool..
:D

Dark_lord_Cheez
10-05-2006, 04:34 PM
I like the idea for TSL you have, although I think having Revan/Naver following you around *all* the time would be a bit annoying. Maybe have him/her join your party at certain plot-specific scenes?


Also, as far as I'm aware, it isn't possible to attatch a puppet to the main PC. (although, I'm sure there could be a work around to this :) )



And actually, I think it'd be pretty cool if Kreia does know who Naver really is, but just neglects to tell you. Maybe have a small cutscene where the two begin to talk on the Ebon Hawk, away from everyone else. (Of course, Revan probably wouldn't remember Kreia, due to his amnesia/the fact it's been years, and how Kreia has taken a lot of physical abuse from Sion and Nihillus when they stripped her of her mantle of Dark Lord)

goldenflames
10-05-2006, 05:39 PM
i though a puppet would be cool as revan was the main char before so revan would be now, plus i kindalike the normal party

but now that i think about it mayb s/he could be a npc on the hawk, like just on it standing there and you could use an item (like what the holodroid emmiter did) to summon him/ her... you could call it bond to a fellow jedi armband, hm.... dos any 1 hav an idea on how to keep the current party (well as long as they are all on the hawk i'm fine) and use revan

Edit: hey just had an Q

can we use revan in an edited revans full body armour as Naver until s/he is found out as revan and then we can change it to revans normal armour

i'm thinking navar could use bandon like armour and a hooded mask like dark jedi assains wear in kotor1

by the way the kotor 1 thing is just cause i think we should at least meet the great Exile who lead the battle on malacore.... any 1 agree

cyaz (probly not for a while cos i'm in england to time is diffrent to theclocks here lol)

Darth-Meatbag
10-05-2006, 09:30 PM
As Dark_lord_cheez said, you cannot attach a puppet to the PC, and right now there is no workaround. Also, Revan would not be on Telos, the game clearly states Revan left all known space. As for KoToR1, creating Malachor as you see it on KoToR2 is impossable, the closet you could get would likely be the Shadowlands on Kash.

~Darth Meatbag

goldenflames
10-06-2006, 02:13 AM
hey i know revan left for greater things but maybe revan came back because s/he felt a disturbance in the force with the exile. and could we not do what the holodroid emmiter does and spawn him/her next to you with an item and then let him/her follow you around

lol just realised i proof read more than i do in schoool here as well

goldenflames
10-06-2006, 01:58 PM
ok i was thinking while in school mayb naver couldmeet carth at the end if naver is female cos like he wants to meet her sooo badly

also naver could hav scripts with mandalore (in helmet) not knowing about him being cand and so a plot develops there

next is the memory wiped hk, hk's sith droid programing will re emerge as revan once again enters the ship but due to other damage hk is stilll un aware of who he once was, so revan and bao fix up hk and finaly revan after being discoverd re re activates hk's mind

finaly there is t3, t3 has no memory a t3 deleatedit... but revan was smart and stored backup copies which he left on dantoine under the safe guard of master.... (still dont know his name)

and a little twist bastila (if revan was male and jedi) comes to see revan as she is in love with him and we meet her on nar shadar as a "refugie" aand then she sees revan she joins the hawk (but not playable at all, just on the hawk cos she wants to protect the hawk cos of some reason... i kinda dont wanna play as her again cos i like the normal party but i would like her on the hawk0.

ok so bits r sketchy but hey i was in school... my mind was occupied by hot girls in short skirts :)

Dark_lord_Cheez
10-07-2006, 11:30 AM
I agree with a few of those ideas, however due to story purposes:

ok i was thinking while in school mayb naver couldmeet carth at the end if naver is female cos like he wants to meet her sooo badly

I get the feeling that the Exile's dialogue with Carth would feel worthless if Revan were still in your party by Telos. It just doesn't seem too right with Carth giving a huge speech about how Revan left him, and then you turn around and say "Uh.. actually, Revan's been travelling with me for the past few weeks". I mean, if it were that simple for Carth to see Revan again, it would kind of just make his speech kind of pointless, don't you think?

also naver could hav scripts with mandalore (in helmet) not knowing about him being cand and so a plot develops there

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Revan the one who gave Canderous the helmet and told him to build up a Mandalorian army?

next is the memory wiped hk, hk's sith droid programing will re emerge as revan once again enters the ship but due to other damage hk is stilll un aware of who he once was, so revan and bao fix up hk and finaly revan after being discoverd re re activates hk's mind

I think this is a really good idea. However, if Revan is trying to hide his/her identity, would he/she help out in repairing HK? If I were in Revan's shoes, my main priority would be to make sure HK *didn't* get reactivated (at least not in the presence of anyone else). The moment HK is reactivated, he'll blow Revan's cover... that's just how I see it, though.

finaly there is t3, t3 has no memory a t3 deleatedit... but revan was smart and stored backup copies which he left on dantoine under the safe guard of master.... (still dont know his name)

Vrook? But Vrook hates Revan... Why would he be given T3's backup copies?

Also, I think T3 already remembers Revan. I don't know if he'd recognize him/her if they were on the Hawk or not, but T3 does guard the ship's navicomputer, thus protecting where the Ebon Hawk dropped Revan off at. Also, he seems to recognize HK when you reactivate him. And most importantly, in one of the dialogue options that is supposed to activate in the game, but doesn't, T3 recognizes Mandalore.

So, my personal belief is that T3 won't need any backup copies of his memory core to recognize Revan. But just like HK, I don't think Revan would want T3 to recognize him/her.



and a little twist bastila (if revan was male and jedi) comes to see revan as she is in love with him and we meet her on nar shadar as a "refugie" aand then she sees revan she joins the hawk (but not playable at all, just on the hawk cos she wants to protect the hawk cos of some reason... i kinda dont wanna play as her again cos i like the normal party but i would like her on the hawk0.

While I do like the idea of a Bastila interaction, I'm not sure if allowing her to join your party is such a good idea. Not to mention, just like Carth, she has a speech (although it's a short one) about not knowing where Revan is... so she would have to be lying when she talks to Carth on Telos about Revan, which may make that entire dialogue feel useless. (IMO)

And just like HK and T3, if you're trying to remain in hiding, it's not a good idea to come into contact with people who can and will recognize you.




Just my 2 cents. :)

goldenflames
10-07-2006, 12:33 PM
lol ok i didnt think it through that much but hey i was in school what do you expect

ok for t3 he was loyal so mayb naver can talk to t3 about not spilling the beans

hk... hm.... well k wont know it was revan until naver tells them... i mean hk didnt know on kotor 1 did he

mandalor could figure out it is revan but then swears some sorta mondalorian thingy to revan and not tell (hmm... need an idea for that)

varth could just say his speach and revan is standing behind a wall... then as the exiles leaves revan walks away and a script comes up about how she didn't want carth to come as she didn't want himto follow her into battle and die... and her veiws are the same now

as for bast... when dos she enter the game... i hope u dont mean koriban or with t3 cos thos are just holo basts... mayb after wiating on korriban she realised sion was coming and so she fled to hide in nar shadar as the sith would have anihalated her if they found her... then the rest happens and we meet her

Dark_lord_Cheez
10-07-2006, 12:42 PM
as for bast... when dos she enter the game... i hope u dont mean koriban or with t3 cos thos are just holo basts... mayb after wiating on korriban she realised sion was coming and so she fled to hide in nar shadar as the sith would have anihalated her if they found her... then the rest happens and we meet her

No, no, I meant at the end of the game (if you say that Revan was male) Bastila shows up next to Carth on Telos, and the two talk about Revan after the Exile leaves for Malachor.


Oh, and I forgot all about HK not recognizing Revan immediately in K1 :smash: That's what I get for not playing that game in practically forever :P

goldenflames
10-07-2006, 01:34 PM
lol i never see bast and revan is always male for me... whats up is there like a side revan had to bee on or some thing i have to do

Dark_lord_Cheez
10-07-2006, 02:07 PM
yeah, Revan needs to have been on lightside. After carth talks to the Exile about Revan leaving, and the Exile walks out, Bastila comes out and says "Does he/she know where he is?" or something to that extent.

goldenflames
10-07-2006, 04:38 PM
wow i never got that... i must have skipped it accidentaly or somthing

acb
10-11-2006, 08:04 AM
maybe it will be interesting to edit final battle... As for me Kreia is not the best enemy to fight with in the end... For example after Exile kill Kreia appear Revan ( or any other Male Sith npc) and he tell to exile "Now there is only one of us who can escape from this place alive..."

Jorad Khor
10-11-2006, 11:13 AM
Hmm, sounds interesting. There´s only one minor problem. In Kotor II Bastila tells T3-M4 in a Holo that he shall come back to the Galaxy to find her or someone else to help against the new Sith thread. Bastila says, she has been left behind by Revan who went to the Unknown Regions to uncover the mysterious threat that has yet to be revealed and from which Kreia/Darth Traya said, it to be more dangerous than every Sith the Republic had to face this far. So I think if KOTOR III will ever show up, we possibly will learn were Revan was shortly before his fall to the dark side and where he went after the events of KOTOR I with the help of T3, who is the only "person" besides Revan who knows the coordinates to this secret Sith Empire or whatever it really is. The Exile followed Revan after the End of KOTOR II with the help of T3 to uncover these mystery.

Darth_Reaper
02-12-2007, 02:16 AM
can u email this mod to PM Me Instead?
I GOTTA HAVE THIS

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Darkkender
02-12-2007, 02:39 AM
can u PM this mod to PM?
I GOTTA HAVE THIS

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FedRebel
02-14-2007, 01:37 AM
I was just thinking that such a mod would be cool, my thoughts for anyone working on it

1. Revan never left, instead have dialog on Peragus saying that Revan was crippled in the Battle of Coruscant.

The BoC would be described as a horrific battle where the Republic throws every ship they can spare at the Sith fleet, eventually forcing the Sith to retreat

2. Depending on what you chose Revan's fate to be would determine which Revan and where you'll find him/her

Darkside Revan would be found on Korriban, under attack by several Sith assassins

Lightside Revan would be found on Dantooine, under attack by several Sith assassins

3. You can recruit Revan, he/she will replace Kreia

favorably some dialog would have Revan make Kreia for what she truly is, forcing her to retreat to Malachor as Traya

4. Revan would be in full robe with mask (lightside version in Star Forge robes) and would speak in an asexual mechanical voice, the reason for this would be the injuries sustained in the before mentioned Battle of Coruscant, and it serves to hide Revan's gender.

That's just my two cents

goldenflames
02-14-2007, 06:59 AM
well that stuff will contradict my earlier request as i said naver meets krea and when we find out naver is revan krea gets all freaky sith evil on him like with diciple

oh and i have realised that handmaiden and diciple have different slots so if the pc is male we can have naver in the diciple slot and handmaiden in hers, and vise versa

to only problem is selecting the character, but this way we certainly avoid story issues where we have neither handmaiden or diciple

you can view the different party slots in the kotor save game editor

Jake_the_Lemon
03-08-2007, 06:48 AM
Choosing Revan's sex and alignment could be decided through dialog at the start with one of the characters, that would be the best way being more customisable. If that isnt possible it could be decided on the sex and alignment of The Exile going on the lines that if you chose to be a male and good you probably did in the first Kotor making revan male and good. That would definitely be possible as it is done with characters in TSL such as your alignment deciding whether you get handmaiden or disciple and which bounty hunter you get.

Although the idea of Kreia and Revan having secret conversations is quite good Revan replacing Kreia would make the most sense as its already been said you can't place a puppet on the PC and having an NPC Revan would suck so if Kreia was to flee for fear Revan might uncover her identity that would be a plausible excuse or simply make an NPC Kreia and keep her on the Ebon Hawk and when your not on the ship she can simply talk to you through visions this would mean all her dialog could still be used and you can gain all the stat boosts and abilities.

As for the droids Revan simply erased the memory of his face or locked it up so they would never recognise him unless he wanted them to.

Mandalore is another easy one to explain he's evil therefore he simply doesn't tell you for whatever evil reason. Evil people don't need reasons only excuses.

The conversation between Bastilla and Carth could be justified by placing a dialog in before that where Revan tells The Exile he must leave again.

TLM20
03-08-2007, 07:19 AM
I've been thinking nearly along the same lines for what you said for KOTOR1. I really like the idea of being able to lead the Sith across certain planets, or maybe discovering new areas and secrets to the Star Forge. Or even having his own capital ship? But I'm not too sure I like the idea of mixing Revan and the Exile together. Way too complicated.

In TSL I don't think the story would work with Revan hanging about the Exile. But it would be nice if Revan and the Exile made contact somehow. I've been thinking that the Telos polar academy was a bit rubbish in the sense that there's zero "Jedi knowledge" there that the Exile can find or make use of. Maybe someone could add a holocron that the Exile could take with him/her onto the Hawk, and converse with whenever he/she likes. The holocron would have a recorded message from Revan, who will teach the PC new powers, feats etc, and maybe give a cryptic warning about Kreia. That way at least the Exile and Revan technically "meet". Wouldn't want him following me around all the time though.

Also Revan is *meant* to leave known space. Best leave it at that and not have him join the Exile imho.

LinktheSithLord
03-19-2007, 08:06 PM
I took one look at this mod and thought. COMPLETE AWESOMENESS!!! I'll go ahead and throw in my ideas. Raven instead of Naver. As for the whole Bastila/Carth dialogue. I don't think you can use any other characters after the Telos scene, so Revan leaving wouldn't be a bad idea to use. I agree that Revan's sex and alignment should be chosen through the dialogue on Peragus. As for the person to get rid of ,GO-TO. Most people don't like him already, so why not just use that space. I also like finding Revan on Telos. Like he/she is seeing what the Masters were doing while he was gone. That also gives you some reason to why he follows you. For T3 and HK, he could just erase their memories of him wearing his mask, like someone else had said. As for Mandalore, he could also erase any memory of himself from Mandalore.

goldenflames
03-22-2007, 04:49 PM
lol yet agin one of my old mods returned alive

but well there are some points i'd just like to point out (even thought i do love some of you ideas :) )


Raven instead of Naver.

As for the person to get rid of ,GO-TO. Most people don't like him already, so why not just use that space.

For T3 and HK, he could just erase their memories of him wearing his mask, like someone else had said.

As for Mandalore, he could also erase any memory of himself from Mandalore.

ok well i'll actually start in reverse cos i like the name

mandalore is difficult to do as he is human and though revan is like a jedi god i think he/she would rather keep his loyalest man with him/her

t3 and hk, well i actually mentioned that they lost their memories (like they have in the game without this mod) but it returns when revan gives t3 his memory core back and re-reveiles himself to hk (due to hk's sith droid programing mentioned in ktr1)

well i cant remember if i said it before or not but if we have revan as male then he replaces disciple and female handmaiden as that means we have goto in the story when we need him

now onto the names well i like raven but what if male revan is naver and female raven, it's just i know 2 girls called raven and no boys so it feels wierd

but i dont mean to flame your ideas as the rest rock

any way i have to go do work (2 months till my exams are over yay) so sorry about any misspelling and bluntness, just really rushed

cya

jonathan7
03-22-2007, 11:38 PM
K1 isn't possible as most of the PC heads for the Exile from TSL are not in K1 (and its illegal to port them accross). As things are it continuity wouldn't work as the Exile was banished before the Civil War to wonder around the outer regions of space, so you wouldnt run into the Exile on any of the planets in K1 (even Lehon is in the centre of the Galaxy Map) and as things are it wouldnt be possible to have Malachor in K1. Also from TSL I get the impression the Exile hadn't been back to Malachor since the mass shadow generator being activated.

TSL; Besides anything else, for continuity reasons it wouldnt make sense for Revan to be in known space, I also don't see how it would be possible to pull it off from a modding point of view... Would Revan be LS or DS, would you voice him/her etc?

Just my 2cents.

goldenflames
03-24-2007, 04:31 PM
well the intro convo with atton tells you helps decide revans gender and allignment

but dont worry, this thread is ooooollldd, i got a shock to see it again so i'm not expecting it to be made

but if it is that would be great

l2ash
03-29-2007, 02:31 AM
i got a better idea for this, (just for the TSL), after the battle wit (the final Boss) reven appers an dertermining what u pick for "It" Earlier in the game, u know was reven a man/Women was he Light/Dark Side, an under those cercumsatsion, an lets have another Hypothectical Situation

"Hypothectical"

U are a LightSided Female Jedi Master, u chose reven to be a Darksided Male, an after u beat (Final Boss) Reven show up, an than u an him duke it out.

But here is my idea for a even better final battle For reven

He has 3x for health than (final Boss)

2x more states than (Final Boss)

HAS ALL Force Powers, Feats.

2x More Force than (Final Boss) (Otherwise know as MP, For the Final Fantasy Freaks out there)

an heck for the "f" of it Lets add some Voice for reven.

(JUST MY SUGGESTION)

goldenflames
03-31-2007, 06:58 AM
but the point of this mod from the start is an aliiance with revan

Ztalker
03-31-2007, 07:38 AM
You could see the battle as a 'test' in that case, to see if the Exile is worthy. :)

goldenflames
03-31-2007, 09:52 AM
hmmm nice idea

but any way idease are nothing without a modder

if any one wants to make it say so and i'll summarise the mod reqest and ideas in a post for ya