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lukeiamyourdad
10-24-2006, 06:26 PM
You know the point of this thread :)

Got the expansion? Post your first impressions right here!

darthcarth
10-24-2006, 08:09 PM
Awsome way better then excpected i just got through a few mission in tha campiagn now to try skirmish :p

SaintVezner
10-24-2006, 10:54 PM
I have only played a very small amount of the campaign, but it does look fun.

I also played a little bit of a SP GC Game as the rebs. Let me put it this way, I was attacked at Yavin by an Imperial fleet consisting of Thrawn, Piett, Moch (I didn't even know the Arch Hammer was in this game! w00t!), and another regular ISD. Yeah, my fleet of 8 frigates with some fighters got owned! I loved it!

Otherwise, I have played two online skirmishes. I think it's safe to say that the online skirmish games are tons better than what you get in regular EaW. The new ships are pretty cool and...oooo, B-Wings are UBER AWESOME!

Final comment is that I LOVE the replay feature. I've been wanting that since I bought regular EaW.

Put simply, Petro hit a home run with this expansion IMO. Good job guys!

Executor1608
10-24-2006, 11:16 PM
Campaign is F'ing Awesome!!!! It's fun!!! I played a long time now and I don't think i'm even half way through it has so much. Definately worth the money and then some!

Doomgiver3
10-25-2006, 08:26 AM
i think i'm 25% through with the campaign but not sure, it is great haven't tryed gc yet so thats what i'll try next

Rust_Lord
10-25-2006, 09:11 PM
I didnt bother to start the campaign yet but tried out each faction on land and in space. I want to test all the new units. Unfortunately the Executor is not available in skirmish. However, this game rocks. It is so much more improved than I thought. Even the AI seems alot better. The relatively minor changes and additions create very different game play overall.
The repair platforms are great as is the ability to repair your station.

A quick thought on the changes and new stuff:
Interceptors replacing TIES = Interceptors are double the cost of TIEs but eat Xwings for breakfast.
Phantoms= Not much more than a gimmick since they have low firepower and cant attack while cloaked.
Victory SD= Price dropped dramatically and now available at tech 3 - great idea
Defenders= Utterly deadly
Thrawn=Costs more than Piett and is avail at a lower tech (?) but kicks butt.
Dark Troopers= Utterly awesome. Vulnerable to plex but they slaughter infantry, heroes and 2 phase 2's took out 2 MPTLs in about 4 seconds!
The Imps get a few anti-MPTL devices which is great and not unbalancing because the rebs get their own new good stuff...
BWings=Obviously not as good as defenders but still great. Unfortunately they dont get the ion special ability which means Ywings are not redundant.
MC30=As i expected this ship is NASTY. Fires a 6 or 12 torpedo salvo (probably 6 for each functioning torp launcher) destroying any hardpoint in one go. Its also very fast but is expensive. This will be the Executors nemesis.
Ass Frigate=Like the VSD, price and tech dropped....good move.
Rogue Squadron= Very good but not as good without Luke's lucky shot.
Yoda and Luke=These guys are freakin awesome. Yoda is nucking futs. I thought the Empire had the advantage on the ground with Dark Troopers until I used these guys. This pair combined with Garm wiped out the Empire without any support.

As for the Consortium; the first few posts stated they were unbalanced but in skirmish I dont think they are. Their units have the potential to inflict huge damage but the PG devs werent kidding when they said they were not tough; given their units and upgrades are slightly more expensive and I think they are pretty balanced. They dont take much damage and you only have to knock out a couple of hardpoints on their ships and they have lost most of their bite. However Zann and IG88 were both quite powerful because of their special abilities. IG88 corrupted the systems of about 4 squadrons of TIE bombers and an Acclamator whose torps were headed for my starbase and sent the torps spiralling out of control!. It was brilliant! The Vengeance frigates are great to get behind cap ships then open up while they struggle to maneuver to return fire.

On the ground various aspects of the consortium impressed me. The destroyers and tanks are good and the ewok handler is great if you can get him to work...to use him effectively he has to be in the front line and can be easily killed. The nightsisters and witch hero are great since the rancors take out ATATs in three hits but are themselves not invincible which I was worried about. With the MDU, MAL and destroyers only able to fire when stationary I found the consortium great for defence but I had trouble going forward...not a criticism of the ZC but more of my limited XP on how best to use them. Overall they are pretty good but they havent been thoroughly tested yet as far as balance. Looks okay though. I was suprised when Urai Fenn defeated Vader in melee combat though! And the bombardments were very apt for each faction but surprisingly expensive; effective without being "instant victory" type weapons though.

Valter
10-25-2006, 10:17 PM
The expansion has surpassed all of my expectations. Great job Petro, pat yourselves on the back for a job well done.

EmperorJello
10-26-2006, 03:23 AM
You can easily get Executor in skirmish by uncommenting a line or two in one of the XML files.

As for my impressions: I've only played GC, but it's excellent so far. Fighters still have an annoying tendancy to be overpowered: if Ackbar's ship can't scratch my SSD, then how do a few Y-wings bust the shields down to half and blow up 4 hardpoints?

But balance is a lot better. The Empire is finally doing what it should be able to do in the last game--steamroll enemies. The Rebels are finally being annoying buzzards and skipping through defenses, and the Consortium is just plain annoying. This is good.

I'm kind of underwhelmed with Executor. She's a gorgeous ship, but the hardpoints are so far apart that she can't really shoot anything. Something needs to be done about the range on that... Thrawn is fabulous, though, and the DSII is beyond compare.

I'm pleased at the voiceacting for Thrawn. The VA in TIE Fighter was subpar and did the voice all wrong, but the Thrawn voice in FoC is passable.

The new landmaps are fantastic. I was impressed when I had Vader waltz up to a ysalamiri tree just to see what would happen, and he got eaten by Vornskyrs. Hah! Whoops, there goes my Super Star Destroyer... but it was hilarious.

I haven't touched the campaign yet, mostly since I just really wanted to play the enhanced Empire. I suppose I should try the campaign, if only to see Eclipse.

lordzack
10-26-2006, 12:15 PM
The campaign is great, I've corrupted about a quarter of the galaxy. Watching Jabba getting pwned by the Zann Consortium was great. I love Droidekas.

I checked out the Galactic Conquest and have to say the AI seems alot better, which is good. The Zann Consortium corrupted Mon Calamari and then blew up my Barracks! I retailed against they're base on Shola, but got half my force killed. I can't wait to try Yoda. I'm going to try the Empire too, and try to build the Executor.

mattwild
10-27-2006, 05:57 AM
Excellent all round. I'll list some bad points for the guys there to improve on for the next expansion (please?):

- Too many ground battles, not enough space
- Some ground battles unneccessarily repetitive and long, such as the Imperial Archives raid
- Dathomir got a bit boring after a while because it's too long
- Not enough Thrawn I think

But what a bloody excellent last fight that was. I was down to a single Keldabe, the Merciless and a tiny number of support ships when the SSD came in. Still managed to win thankfully. That was a brilliant battle, thankyou Petro!

Now for another expansion!

DCorris
10-27-2006, 08:14 AM
I got it today, but I'm sorely disappointed with it.
I am already stuck on the campaign because of a bug (its in the tech help forum)
I like having the new units and some new maps, but there's really hardly anything for them in the end and i think the consortium is a little overpowered in the campaign.

It had so much potential that could of been used to improve it, and its missing really stupid things too.

Why cant it have the galactic conquest missions from EAW vanilla? they may only let the normal two, but id rather that and the few in there. It couldn't of been that hard to put them in there, or let you access them. There should of beena few more in my opinion, maybe one with al the planets and you start off with just one planet per side.

Why aren't the two normal campaigns in there, would it of been too hard to simply disable the new units so you cant use them, so I don't have to restart the whole thing to play them?

How come a bunch of units have tiny descriptions? and the general AI wile playing in skirmish seems dreadfully dull, unless I've never noticed before.

When i downloaded a mod for EAW vanilla, i use to enjoy playing through the campaign with new units, gave it a new spark, but now that the campaigns and a few things are separate its not going to work out the same way.


on a good note, i like the whole corruption thing, its very good, though i think the bribery to get past places is going to get annoying, you could attack at the heart of anywhere now, its a pity they didn't come up with something for the rebels, I think they could of used something like this for the normal game.

I have a few more things, but I'll leave them for now, let other people get there opinions in here.

lordzack
10-27-2006, 08:31 AM
Well, those problems about the campaigns apply to every expansion in existance, so you shouldn't get so upset. It would've been convienent, though. And they should have had the original Galactic Conquest maps.

FunSolo
10-27-2006, 09:51 AM
theres only one thing i really dislike: the lengh of the campaign.... thats supposed to be a joke.. it gotta be one. otherwise i dunno whats goin on in their minds.
when all the real action begins (where u get access to the eclipse, silri disappeared with the holocron and all that stuff) the game ends... i was like "uh, thats it? eh, there gotta be more..."
and i wished there would have been more missions like the last one, with temporary alliances and more fightings against the black sun and so on and on.
the only problem i had playing the campaign was, the money at the beginning, cause the empire and the rebels got rid of the corruption pretty fast each time, so i had a lil trouble building my empire up. but when i established it on enough planets it was pretty easy, till the end.
maybe it will become better in gc games afterwards, but if i had bought this game just cause of the campaign i would be pissed off like hell.

Crezzer Fett
10-27-2006, 06:06 PM
The expanison is great in my oppinon. I havn't played Campaign yet but played many hours of Galactic Conquest. The new units for the rebels and imperials are great. I like the re-scale of Home One, and oh...the Executor :).

EmperorJello
10-27-2006, 09:31 PM
I just finished the campaign. I agree that it ended very quickly, but it was satisfying enough all the way through. The Empire kept attacking me with large fleets between missions, so I got to have a lot of fun space action.

I was expecting FoC to be terrible and I was expecting to hate the Consortium, but I was pleasantly surprised for both. I'll still only play as the Empire, but the Consortium campaign was definately enjoyably playable.

EDIT: It terms of gameplay and continuity, the expansion is far far superior to the original.

EmperorPalpa
10-28-2006, 07:52 AM
I have a questions for you (i'm from Poland and here FOC will be realased at 10 November):
1. Is the Eclipse normal moving unit or background unit like the death star ?
2. Can Darth Vader and all Sith/Jedi heroes kill all troop squad by one slash ?
3. How can i get Executor ?
4. If the Eclipse is "normal" how many hardpoints it have ?

I'll be very happy if you will answer some of the questions.

ImpElite
10-28-2006, 08:04 AM
first off, welcome to the forums, EmperorPalpa!

Second off, I don't have FOC yet so I can't really answer your questions :(

HerbieZ
10-28-2006, 10:42 AM
Great stuff, finished the campaign yesterday but Does anyone know what the end was all about, all i get was Silri stealing the holocron and walking into a big cavern full of Dark Trooper phase 1's encased in carbonite then it ended.

As for your questions palpa, the Eclipse is useless. You only get to use it in the last mission and it has no hardpoints and it's static. Big disapointment on that front.

EmperorPalpa
10-28-2006, 01:15 PM
Thanks guys but i'm not so new (first time i opened this site about year ago but i only watch posts.) This's sucks !!! I thought Eclipse will be the most powerful unit. I hope someone make this unit "normal" (i love this beautiful model).
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:32035.jpg

EmperorJello
10-28-2006, 04:42 PM
Well, we've already known that Eclipse wouldn't be useable outside that last mission. It's not like there's a pressing need for her, anyway, she's terribly overpowered.


I have a questions for you (i'm from Poland and here FOC will be realased at 10 November):
1. Is the Eclipse normal moving unit or background unit like the death star ?
2. Can Darth Vader and all Sith/Jedi heroes kill all troop squad by one slash ?
3. How can i get Executor ?
4. If the Eclipse is "normal" how many hardpoints it have ?

I'll be very happy if you will answer some of the questions.

I. She's on the map, but she has no hardpoints and can't move. She just has a superlaser.

II. I imagine so. I saw Yoda flip through a squad of stormtroopers and kill them with one spin.

III. You have to 'purchase' Lord Vader from a Level 5 Space Station at Tech Level 5 for 15000 credits.

IV. None, see above.

Jack of Blades
10-28-2006, 08:07 PM
I havent got the full game yet but i did play the demo and i must say it rocked!!!i i didnt see even half of what there will be in the real game.you guys areso lucky to have it but i will join your ranks soon.

SaintVezner
10-29-2006, 03:52 PM
I'm loving FoC. I have been playing the campaign slowly so that I can enjoy it longer. Most of my time has been spent playing a SP GC game and also playing an occasional MP skirmish game.

SP GC is SOOOOO much improved now when compared to regular EaW. I'm playing as the Rebs and the empire and consortium are giving me a run for my money on medium difficulty. The Empire is actually building ISDs :O and the consortium is corrupting both Rebel and Empire planets left and right all while sabotaging us to no end. I am also under constant attack, which makes it difficult to maintain a strong fleet. I love it because it is actually a challenge now! :)

The MP skirmish games are also very nice. I love playing Reb vs Emp vs Consortium. So far I think things are pretty balanced and I LOVE being able to save a replay of the battle.

I just have two complaints so far: 1) what happened to Kyle and Mara? 2) When Boba drops a sonic bomb in space battles, the graphic for the rotating bomb remains on screen even after it detonates. This isn't a game stopper but it is annoying, especially after boba dropps multiple bombs.

Petro, FoC gets a 9 out of 10 in my book. You guys did an EXCELLENT job!

jasonirma
10-30-2006, 07:57 PM
This is probably the single best expansion I've played in any platform. Very, very nice job, Petro. I just hope it brings many more people back into the mix and the community! This game is really good off-the-shelf!

***The graphics performance is definitely better (and it wasn't too bad before) giving the "Battlecam TM" (previously known as cinematic mode) a cooler look. Still wish the camera had better centering performance, as it still sometimes picks a completely esoteric unit not actively in combat to focus on. Still, there were some real treats. On a land battle, my ground forces were kicking the heck out of a structure, so I popped it into "Battlecam TM" (btw, was the TM really necessary in-game? It looks a bit tacky) when the camera pulled out and gave this very nice wide-angle view of the structure going KABOOM. Very nice. In space the Battlecam does great as usual especially when it occasionally would allow a large vessel's undersurface to ominously glide over the top of the screen like in the SW movies. Also, space perspective (especially in regards to making big ships "look" massive) really shined.

***Some "space weirdness" still exists where fleet groups seem to have problems organizing themselves into a formation and moving forward. Small ships still fly around aimlessly in the group until the larger ships move forward. Occasionally I still see the "zipping small vessel" phenomenon seen in EaW where one or two ships (TIE or equivalent) warp around at sub-light speed in wide ellipses while formations settle out. But pathfinding seemed smoother in some ways once all ships were underway.

***The bigger maps are incredible in their depth, especially in Battlecam view. Honoghr has very nice peaks and valleys, for example. But what dropped my jaw the most was the space map over Yavin was littered with debris from the DS explosion, including much of the chassis preserved, but obviously decimated from Rogue Squadron. Watching THAT in cinematic mode was amazing and very immersive. My suggestion would be (especially for the expansive ground maps) that there be many more reinforcement points or higher caps. On Honoghr, I was routinely being routed by a very powerful Empire force relative to the groups I could drop on the surface at any one RP (3 total troops (made up of 2 hero units and 1 other unit)). I had amassed a considerable landing force orbiting from above, but ended up with only 3-6 units on the ground at one time. They would get "diluted" by the sheer scope of the land and made it veritably impossible to gather enough build points and bombing runs to win.

***I love the corruption storyline. When I first heard of the expansion, I thought, "Bummer--they could have picked up any part of the EU or original sextet of films, but instead they're creating canon with which I'm not gonna be familiar." I read with interest as the expansion continued to unfold on sites like this one and IGN. But, now, getting into the campaign mode, wow. Very fun, very canon, and very cool back story. Corruption is definitely a blast and a totally new way to play. I felt very, very impressed by the new niche Petro developed here. And I have to say they should be proud (this is, after all, a very tough group to impress :)).

***The new ships are great. I love the buzz droids for reasons I can't articulate (maybe it's their sounds?). However, they seemed lackluster occasionally when ships appeared to travel through their cloud of influence. I wouldn't see them actually doing damage to things like Tartans, for example. They're most effective against small fighters and bombers (as you'd expect). I like the balance overall, and really have to think ahead about which units are going to be effective.

***Love the heroes. Much like the book Darth Bane which recently came out (which, btw, is an EXCELLENT read), this game produces a very engrossing protagonist (Zahn) who is nevertheless a bad guy. I like the bribe function particularly, as this has resulted in some fun stuff on ground battles. Bribe, unlike Force Corrupt, doesn't result in loss of HP and therefore amasses pretty sizeable troop strength over time. And I like how the bribe amount varies depending upon the item you're trying to corrupt. If you go into battle with little financial reserve, you won't be able to say, bribe that AT-ST to your side. Very good feature for balance.

***New icons denoting terrain/weather/etc related issues (such as troops moving through water, etc) are awesome. Still wish we could get an "idle unit" icon somewhere so that I could redeploy them on an attack run. The interface needs to show which units are actively engaged in battle and which aren't.

***Battlecam still has some trouble with angle of view on ground (still starting far too overhead). Would like to see that pin to an angle that allows a forward field of view from a unit's perspective. I know that I can use the Battlecam to view a single, specified unit, and from there to change the angle in any direction I choose, but really the cinematic benefit of being able to rotate from unit-to-unit by pressing the spacebar in usual Battlecam format is what makes it fun. It allows for scene switches that sometimes are unpredictable and offer views I wouldn't have thought to look for.

I think this deserves a 9.3-9.5 rating on IGN. It's not quite a HL-2-equivalent gameplay, but man, as RTS goes, this is next to perfection. Great, great work :).

wolfard88
10-30-2006, 08:38 PM
I've been playing Conquest as the Rebs with all the tech available, and I still don't have access to Luke Skywalker, Bel Iblis, or the MC-30 frigate.

What is wrong? I was really looking forward to those new units.

Aside from that issue....

The Executor almost made me giggle like a little girl.

Tie Defenders are grim, they eat up fighters like candy.

Yoda is a badass.

And the Zann Consortium is sweet addition, but something about it doesn't feel Star Wars.

I can't wait until I figure out how make the indigenous mandalorians on Mandalore into buildable units. That's going to be evil.

Spartan 063
10-30-2006, 08:47 PM
Do I need to say anything to express how AWSOME FoC is??!!?!?!

Dreng
11-01-2006, 12:28 PM
ok so i finally got it...im in love with it but the lancet is just ubber you can kill anything including heroes easily luke skywalker doesnt reflec blaster bolts to the enemys the mc-30 is overpowered the rebels use a lot of marauder cruisers in GC and yes i hate artillery

xhh2a
11-05-2006, 10:41 AM
i thought the campaign was short but has anyone noticed a possible story conflict in the last campaign battle? It states that the rebels destroyed the DS2 on endor, but in the movies, wasn't the executor destroyed there? *possible spoiler* So how could it have hyperspaced in on Kuat? Also, I was dissapointed that they didn't include the full model of the eclipse that was in the trailers. Other than that (and some bugs) pretty good.

YertyL
11-05-2006, 11:13 AM
i thought the campaign was short but has anyone noticed a possible story conflict in the last campaign battle? It states that the rebels destroyed the DS2 on endor, but in the movies, wasn't the executor destroyed there? *possible spoiler* So how could it have hyperspaced in on Kuat? Also, I was dissapointed that they didn't include the full model of the eclipse that was in the trailers. Other than that (and some bugs) pretty good.
The SSD hypering in at Kuat was not the Executor but another SSD (the Annihilator..? I can't remember the name)

ImpElite
11-05-2006, 01:41 PM
The SSD hypering in at Kuat was not the Executor but another SSD (the Annihilator..? I can't remember the name)

oh man it can't be The Annihilator, that's the name of my personal ship!

wedge2211
11-09-2006, 10:18 PM
My first impression is that this game seems to push my graphics card way more than EaW did. Either that or a lot of processes snuck into the background on my machine when I loaded it up the first time... Oh, well, time to turn down some settings. Felucia practically murdered my laptop!

And, hey, the B-Wings fly sideways.

TearsOfIsha
11-10-2006, 07:40 AM
Personally, I'm disappointed. I'm not sure whether it's by bugs or by design, but the new expansion basically means the Rebels (my favourite side) are unplayable.

Removing corruption on some worlds means that my entire base on the world, orbital and ground, is destroyed - I don't know what that was all about. The new units are... alright, but they're pathetic when compared to the new Imperial (air assault units, cloaking fighters, and entire new line of Dark Troopers, fighter bombers, SSDs, need I go on?) and Corrupt units. The imperials have also managed to learn how to bring in single fleets of 10 ISDs at the same time as well - I can't remember that being possible. The Corrupt side also seems to just magic rebel units out of nowhere - like Marauders and Nebulon Bs.

I don't get why the rebels have had most of their advantages removed. In EaW the rebels had better fighters and worse cruisers (which is what it should be). The cruisers haven't changed, and the fighters are..... well, to put it bluntly, crap, compared to imperial counterparts. So basically everything is dump. Wow, what a good idea. The B-wings were really, just meh. They don't really do anything more than Y wings do and they're just as fragile. The new MC30 cruisers pack a punch but appear to be little more than corvettes with torpedoes - they're too weak to be used on anything beyond lil' Corrupt units. Yoda and Luke are all very well but, as before, they do nowt against any enemy unit with punch. The new rogue squadron are pretty pointless aswell - the 'strike' ability makes pretty lights appear, and that's about it.

Practically the only good news is that the rebels get Garm Bel Iblis, but instead of being in the Peregrine he's in a weird hovering juggernaut thingy.

Don't get me wrong, it's a good game if you like the imperial or the new corrupt side. But if you like Rebels, you'd do well to steer clear of it. What a waste of money....... I've never came across an expansion that ruins the original game before. I'm just hoping Petro bother to patch this mess soon or they release that cheat mod for the exp pack like they did with the original game.

ImpElite
11-10-2006, 09:29 AM
Wow, I'm not so eager to get the expansion now (Rebel fan in EAW also), though the good news is is that they're releasing a patch soon to fix the bugs and whatnot, hopefully enough to restore the Rebels back to their former glory!

EDIT: yay 250th post lol.

TearsOfIsha
11-10-2006, 02:17 PM
Lets hope the patch makes them playable then :)

ImpElite
11-10-2006, 05:04 PM
Yeah. :)

lordzack
11-11-2006, 03:29 PM
I can answer some of you're concerns. When the Zann Consortium uses the Corrupt Militia option, if you uncorrupt that world it will revolt. The Zann Consortium can use Rebel and Imperial ships after using the Piracy Corruption mission. I think the Rebellion is pretty good. You just have to use them right. The bugs are annoying, but the game is still playable.

thedoctor44
11-11-2006, 06:56 PM
My first impression is so-so.

Firstly, the campaign is brilliant. Absolutely brilliant. So well written and the missions make a brilliant change from the orginal EAW all-out-conflict. And the finale mission was brilliant.

I'm VERY disappointed the Eclipse was not included fully in the game, bar as a special weapon for one mission. Whilst one could argue the Death Star II fills that capacity, I disagree. Also not pleased that the Eclipse lacks any kind of hard points anyway - I'm not saying it needs to have weapons for unbalancing reasons, but it should have shield generations, engines etc. I'm also extremely disappointed in the lack of new ships for the Rebellion, even though I normaly play the Empire.

I love the fact we can now customise what units we deploy entirely, as opposed to having to basicaly send our ships on suicide runs so we can deploy more capital ships. Love the Executor, however, I fully believe it should of become Piett's new ship and have him bumped up to Tech 5, and replacing the Accuser's slot entirely with Thrawn.

Love the Corruption system, except it annoys me to no end that it seems to make the Consortium overpowered. Also really annoyed that the consortium is capable of destroying the Death Star and subsequently an extremely valuable planet... (well, I think so, given the fact it randomly exploded on me at one point during GC).

Also, Vader's voice is horrific. It sounds like his life support unit has been filled with hydrochloric acid. And you can barely hear what he says on the Executor.

Anyhow, my first impressions.

TearsOfIsha
11-12-2006, 01:41 PM
I think the Rebellion is pretty good. You just have to use them right. The bugs are annoying, but the game is still playable.

I keep hearing about this old chestnut, 'just use them right'. You can't use them right, because petro have not provided that ability. I have no option to steal stuff, nor do I have the option of doing meaningful hit and runs (both were standard rebel tactics in the canon). All the options I have are using various combos of daft units and it basically degenerates into simply hurling more and more reinforcements at the enemy. Whereas in the original EaW, I could at least match a fleet if I used the right tactics - now half the fire I take goes right through shields, so they are pointless.

And as if to prove my point, I just tried a rebel orbital strike, which proceeded to pound the ground with pretty blue lights that did sweet FA. I assumed that this was yet another bug - imagine my surprise when I found that it's actually intentional, and they are Ion Cannon blasts. Why in christ's name do the rebels, specifically, only shoot those? Why am I not given the option to use turbolasers? Am I to assume that I suffer a fleetwide laser malfunction and all I've got left are Ions? It's this kind of meaningless rubbish that have made me throughly disappointed with the exp pack.

fortune faded13
11-13-2006, 12:23 AM
well i finally got FOC.
i like it alot. though i havent figured out a lot of stuff and i havent been able to play around with it yet.
the new units are cool. corruption is great. and i hope everything else with be nifty.
the consortium still kinda confuses me. but i'll manage.
i think i would like it a lot more if my computer could handle land battles better.
theres extreme lag everytime.

but so far i'd say 7/10.
theres my 2 cents.

ImpElite
11-13-2006, 10:13 AM
I got FOC yesterday and I have to say it's great! I don't know which is my favorite faction anymore, Rebel Alliance or the Zann Consortium, pretty hard choice, I'm thinking Consortium, though that might change within a week or two.

Everything is 10/10 once the bugs are gone with the new patch! :D

The Land battles are awesome, space is awesome, but the AI holy :cowdance it'll take some getting used to lol. ;)

Great Job Petro! :D

The Source
11-13-2006, 12:09 PM
I ended up playing the Expansion on a friend's computer. As many people know, I am not an advocate for EAW in any way. What I did like about the Expansion is that it gave EAW variety. There are some unbalanced issues that needs to be addressed.

I am not too thrilled with the game in general, but I do believe that the expansion livens things up a bit. I am glad to see more ships and content. I can see myself playing this on rainy days.

To be very honest, I think Lucas Arts is now over pricing their games. EAW and FOC are just way overpriced for my taste. That is just me.

$49.99 - For the main EAW game.
$29.99 - For the expansion pack.

I see higher quality games run in this pattern:

$39.99 - For the main game. (Sometimes: $29.99)
$19.99 - For the expansion.

If the price was more buyer friendly, I can see myself picking up the expansion. Taxes drives the price even higher, so I am glade other companies are logical. Once the price comes down to $19.99, I will probally buy the expansion. After spending $49.99 on the main game, they won't get anything over $20.00 for the expansion. Truthfully, EAW and FOC should have been one game for $39.99.

TearsOfIsha
11-13-2006, 02:17 PM
I bought FoC from Play.com for £12.99, which is about $25. I wish hadn't now, at least not as early as I did. Viva la patch!

Desann01
12-23-2006, 04:18 PM
Bugs aside it's an okay game. I agree with the aforementioned length of the campaign mode, the second things look as though they are just starting to begin, it's suddenly over.

I was really hoping there would be new campaign storyís for the Empire and Rebellion as well - centred around the building of the Death Star 2 for example, sadly not though.

While it's fun spreading corruption with the Consortium, it's bloody annoying when your playing as the Empire or Rebels and it happens to you, every 2 seconds one of your buildings gets destroyed :dev7:

The Executor was my biggest let down, It slows up your fleet way too much, and by the time you can get it anywhere near the action, the battle is over, because your TIES have destroyed everything. Also as everyone says, Darth Vaderís voice sounds ridiculous. I was also hoping for more control over the Death Star as well, but it's basically the same system as EaW, just with the added bonus that you can fire on ships with a special ability.

Not bad, but you got an impression of laziness on the part of the designers, and there really should have been more in it. I know technically it's just an add-on, but it is charged at the price of a stand-alone game.

mrsparkle
12-23-2006, 07:05 PM
I've had it since it was released, but my first impressions were that the ZC were totally overpowered (laughably so, and confirmed numerous times when trying to play against them online), the campaign was too quick, there was a conspicuous lack of campaigns for the rebels or empire (there should have been campaigns based around the 2nd death star ala ROTJ for both factions), and there was STILL no Lando Calrissian or Leia...it's just not Star Wars without Lando and Leia!

And being a bit of a purist I thought FOC was based way too much on expanded universe stuff. That's to be expected though. It's just that to me it was too much...I especially disliked the nightsisters who used lightsaber whips and rode rancors around. Wtf is that all about?

Let me put it this way: When I got FOC I completed the campaign and a few GC games with a fleet of just starvipers (with 3 skiprays thrown in just to allow bombing runs), and land forces of mostly canderous tanks and MALs (in the campaign I couldn't use the tanks so I used pulse cannons instead). So what that the land forces cost a ton? The ZC make 10x more money than the rebels and empire combined!

I was also bothered by the scale of the death star II vs planets and ships. It looks tiny compared to ships and gigantic compared to planets. I know how it's impossible to make everything to scale, but still.

Kobliha(cz)
12-24-2006, 09:10 AM
[QUOTE=HerbieZ]Great stuff, finished the campaign yesterday but [SPOILER] Does anyone know what the end was all about, all i get was Silri stealing the holocron and walking into a big cavern full of Dark Trooper phase 1's encased in carbonite then it ended.

these troops in carbonite arent darktroopers, they look like sith troops from kotor ( knights of the old republic ) and perhaps they truly are because urai said that artefakt ( which lead to cave ) is 4000 years old and before 4000 years there was war betwen sith empire an old republic...

Desann01
12-24-2006, 11:41 AM
And being a bit of a purist I thought FOC was based way too much on expanded universe stuff. That's to be expected though. It's just that to me it was too much...I especially disliked the nightsisters who used lightsaber whips and rode rancors around. Wtf is that all about?


The Nightsisters were from an expended universe book, one I havenít read as yet, so I can't really comment on how realistic they were.

I do agree with you actually, they would be better off taking more from the movies and less from imagination/expanded universe. Personally I think it would have made more sense for the ZC to actually be the Black Sun - at least it fits in with cannon more, as opposed to just making something up, completely.

I didn't mind Thrawn been in it, as his trilogy are one of the few SW's expanded universe storyís I have enjoyed, Along with Shadows of the Empire - and despite the fact, he now looks and sounds like a weedy Trade Federation guy, it was nice to see Prince Xizor making an appearance in FoC. But the majority of SW's books, are either boring as hell, extremely poorly written or both - and I find it very hard to take them serious.

magna mandaloe
12-25-2006, 11:09 PM
Yea I was Upset that they Did'nt include lando I mean it always fun using lando and hearing his silly Jokes and Tactics and instead made a Weak ass luke and Rouge Squadron I mean COME ON :(.

Yes Those are Sith Troopers at the End and might be a Seceret Army or those Assassin things. Waiting for a Sith To Free Them.

TheMichal
12-26-2006, 04:46 AM
much better than base EaW. Most important is that the ships and ground units can move faster and game have more fun

PoiuyWired
12-26-2006, 12:06 PM
Yea I was Upset that they Did'nt include lando I mean it always fun using lando and hearing his silly Jokes and Tactics and instead made a Weak ass luke and Rouge Squadron I mean COME ON :(.

Yes Those are Sith Troopers at the End and might be a Seceret Army or those Assassin things. Waiting for a Sith To Free Them.

For some reason I think the ending event is somehow tied to Darth Krayt.

magna mandaloe
12-26-2006, 12:18 PM
It would be wierd if he was some 4,000 year Old Sith that would be scary

Desann01
12-26-2006, 10:28 PM
I really do think this is all wishfull thinking ;) they don't sound like sith troopers to me

Grey_Ghost
12-27-2006, 01:29 AM
My first game trying it out as Rebels vs Empire (land skirmish). I build some of those new MDU's. I use 4 of them (2 laser 1 repair 1 shield) and 2 MPTL's to attempt defending my big mine on those Build Pads... A Freaking AT-AA just fires 2 volleys of it's flak (which ignore shields) and every single MDU buildable POPS instantly.

I could live with rockets taking out my MDU's...but FLAK? They don't even have to try and bring in some big guns, or have units breach the shield. Just send a single AT-AA to bypass them, so your other units can mop up.

Long story short, my first impressions were the suck.

YertyL
12-27-2006, 05:32 AM
Wait until you've tried out transports ;)

Igor_Cavkov
02-02-2007, 09:18 AM
i think the campaign was a bit to short tho.. but it was fun while it lasted.
but there must be a sequel to! :)

the campaign wasnt that challanging for me even on hard i got like 300k in credits never felt threaten.

love the new heroes they were awesome!

SWRules
04-14-2007, 06:40 PM
When I first popped the game into my computer and saw the Main Menu, I was all like " Wow! ".
I tried my first battle, which was in " Heart of The maw " mode.
I noticed that the characters did stuff autimatically.
That was cool!
LOL!

Jelani34
07-25-2007, 02:05 AM
it was a good game overall but like what alot of people said that i have several things to comment on

1. The campaign was way too easy and short on the consortium end plus. The final battle even though i thought i would have lost a lot of ships. I actualy only lost a crusader and a few fighters and bombers which seemed really sad. but then again i had like 4 keldable ships and 3 of the cap ships not to mention i had several other waiting to be reinforced.
2.Even though each race had there own units and new upgrades and such. I found that the consortium could pretty much overpower the empire. Like here is a good group. maybe 5 or 6 vengeace frigates with 3 crusaders and a few fighters and bombers could takle pretty much any sized fleet. mostly cause the frigates would handle the capital,battle,and other frigates plus corvettes while the crusaders would kill bombers along with fighters and the fighters and bombers would just be there for extra collateral.
3.plus i am not sure but in galactic conquest do the rebels and empire fight each other. like what i mean is since i am consortium. I can sit in defence and let them kill each other. but do they try to take each others planets. that if anybody could answer would be greatly appreciated.

Hyprodimus
11-17-2007, 08:19 PM
I thought they did the ZC very well. All the units, storyline, abilities, heros and interactions with the Empire and Rebels matches up nicely. I still like space battles more, but playing the ZC on land was great. In space I felt that the ZC was the last piece to the puzzle. Rebels have round ships, Empire has Trianglular vessels and the Consortium has a squarish fleet.

I thouight the sound effects could do much better and the music got very repetitive.....very repetitive.

Delta 412
01-19-2008, 09:24 PM
it sounded cool when i read the game manual but i could never find out how to get the eclispe :confused:

Delta 412
01-19-2008, 09:31 PM
You can easily get Executor in skirmish by uncommenting a line or two in one of the XML files.

As for my impressions: I've only played GC, but it's excellent so far. Fighters still have an annoying tendancy to be overpowered: if Ackbar's ship can't scratch my SSD, then how do a few Y-wings bust the shields down to half and blow up 4 hardpoints?

But balance is a lot better. The Empire is finally doing what it should be able to do in the last game--steamroll enemies. The Rebels are finally being annoying buzzards and skipping through defenses, and the Consortium is just plain annoying. This is good.

I'm kind of underwhelmed with Executor. She's a gorgeous ship, but the hardpoints are so far apart that she can't really shoot anything. Something needs to be done about the range on that... Thrawn is fabulous, though, and the DSII is beyond compare.

I'm pleased at the voiceacting for Thrawn. The VA in TIE Fighter was subpar and did the voice all wrong, but the Thrawn voice in FoC is passable.

The new landmaps are fantastic. I was impressed when I had Vader waltz up to a ysalamiri tree just to see what would happen, and he got eaten by Vornskyrs. Hah! Whoops, there goes my Super Star Destroyer... but it was hilarious.

I haven't touched the campaign yet, mostly since I just really wanted to play the enhanced Empire. I suppose I should try the campaign, if only to see Eclipse.

DELTA 412 : what u said about the xml files may work for gettin the eclispe in gc games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Source
01-20-2008, 07:29 PM
During the Christmas break, my friend gave me his gold pack version. Even though I got rid of the original game, I did endup trying this out again. I still find "Empire at War" to be too childish in design and concept. "Forces of Curruption" is completely unballanced. If you end up playing against Zann, you will only get your but kicked around the gallaxy. I never got the new DeathStar or Executor. I wanted to make sure that I played all combinations, so I tried the different senerios that were possible. I personally think they should go back to the "Battlegrounds" idea.

If you are looking for a quick Star Wars fix, "Empire at War" will keep you entertained for a short time. After playing the game for twenty minutes, you may endup finding yourself playing another game.

AForestFan
01-22-2008, 05:47 PM
Hi everyone,

I've been playing Empire at War for a year now, and have been playing Forces of Corruption for a somewhat shorter time. Here are the bugs I've noticed with FoC, and this is using the latest patch:

* Forces of Corruption seems to have a bug where my fleets will randomly disappear. I will create a massive fleet of varying types of ships, go around the map, and come back to the planet and find it empty. No battles, no notice, nothing. The fleet's just gone.

* I've encountered a variation on this bug when choosing to battle an enemy fleet that the game considers to have "left" the battle when you arrive. All of a sudden, it will say I've lost huge groups of fighters, from when the enemy never even fought! Weird.

* This is an Autoresolve issue: As everyone knows by now, if you destroy an invading space fleet, there will be another battle immediately following, of all the ground assault shuttles that arrive afterwards. If I "play" the battle, I destroy all the shuttles. But if I choose to Autoresolve, those shuttles somehow destroy a few capital ships! That's ridiculous, and I've even seen it with only one enemy shuttle.

* Autoresolve itself is a joke. It in no way reflects reality. I really think it's just a random number generator, although you generally will always lose unless you have a massive pile-on of ships/ground troops.

* Finally, as others have noted, not playing the corrupt side means you'll pretty much lose. The only possible strategy is to never spend a penny ridding worlds of corruption, and just trying to make gains in military battles. You'll go bankrupt curing corruptions, and never have money for even one ship! Playing as the Empire on medium setting, I was shocked to see 6 worlds corrupting at once. That is ridiculous, and shows the computer is cheating, when no player would have that much money at once.

And that's the biggest problem of all with the expansion. Some nice possibilities overall, but when the AI is obviously cheating, you've lost my interest as a player. Too bad, as the game had promise.

ReleaseTheTiger
01-23-2008, 07:50 PM
Got it for Christmas. I love it! Though I think it could do with some more stuff. I'm practically invincible and cunning when it comes to space battles. But I do my best at ground battles when necessary.

All in all, a great game.

AForestFan
02-08-2008, 05:50 PM
I've been playing "z3r0x's FOC Addon V3" Mod for Forces of Corruption, and it corrects a lot of the expansion's shortcomings.

I use it with Petroglyph's "Mod launcher", what a great inclusion by the company to expand the longevity of their product!

Mods make this series live on.

timster0
03-26-2008, 07:47 PM
It is great! Though I'd like Thrawns ship to be the Chimera.

battle111
12-21-2012, 02:11 PM
AU MAN !!!! forces of coruption is truly AMAZING !!!! l just passed some of the levels on the galactic conquest by playing the Empire:) but l didn't yet played the ather sides and forces of coruption is very l meen very impresive!!!!