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TiE23
10-25-2006, 01:21 AM
Wii and 360 priced too high compared to the PS3?


We’ve almost come to expect for Sony execs to make off the wall comments when it comes to the current climate in console gaming. We've heard Sony CEO Ken Kutaragi say that the PS3 was "probably too cheap" and just recently European VP Jamie McDonald stated that European gamers "don't mind" delays with regards to the PlayStation 3. Now, we have some commentary from Sony Australia's Michael Ephraim to add to mix.

Ephraim stated that for its intended market, the Nintendo Wii is too expensive despite its "family oriented" roots. "For this Christmas, I think that price point is still not family entertainment because AUD $500 is a lot to fork out, but we welcome the Nintendo heritage of gaming where they can appeal to a broader audience because long-term that is critical for the industry," said Ephraim.

Ephraim concedes that the XBOX 360 has done well in Australia, but that the unit is still a bit on the expensive side. His main problem with the console, which many may agree with, is that the content just isn't there yet. He also goes on to say, "It's still pricey, and I'm sure Microsoft will do everything they can, but if you just look at the offerings from each format and the marketplace that we are now playing in, especially PlayStation 2, it has to be affordable because we are talking about mass-market and non traditional gamers."

How does one respond to such commentary on Wii/360 pricing? It'd be one thing if the PS3 was at price parity or even cheaper than the competition, but it is the console with the higher price tag. In the case of the Wii, the base PS3 is twice as expensive for North American customers. Perhaps Sony is touting its Blu-ray-equipped PS3 as having a lot more value per dollar than its competition, but “value” is a measure that is different for each individual gamer.

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4507


Xbox 360 Core: $299
Xbox 360 Full: $399
Nintendo Wii: $249
Sony Playstation 3 Basic: $499
Sony Playstation 3 Full: $599

Um, what.

If sony is in fact trying to justify this ridiculous price claim by their bundled blu-ray player then they've either completely lost it (likey) or they believe we the consumers are complete idiots. Not only have we not seen the final result of the blu-ray vs. HDDVD war yet, it's not like the prices for a blu-ray player are always going to be near 1k. Remember when the DVD format just came out? **** was expensive as hell then too, but now you can get your cheap ass a decent DVD player for about $50.

And what about that mystical "Cell processor?" Developers are going to take years to learn to code to the PS3's full processing potential. On top of that it's extremely complicated to code an application with 8 threads. The truth is, due to the intricacies of having a processor that complex you're not guaranteed to get a PS3 with the full 8 cores. You'll get at least 6, but i've read that plenty, if not most, people will end up getting 7. This is the same way computer and other hardware is built. A batch of cards/ram/whatever are created. They then undergo testing to see which pieces will become high performing, high priced products and which will become lower end products that will be marketed as something different at a lower price. Remember when you heard about people flashing their nvidia 6800s to 6800GTXs and such? It's the same idea, except in this case nvidia was trying to meet market demands for that level GPU, not because the cards failed high tier testing.

I was never going to buy a PS3, and I never will. Especially now with sony's incessant bitch fits that only end up hurting the gaming community. Think sony's shutting down of lik-sang.com and how hard Sony worked/works at killing off the homebrew community for the PSP. And what the hell was with the PSP's processor factory underclocking from 333mhz to 222mhz? Brain dead. All of it.

Also, informat ninjas say that the PS3 can only use 6 threads at a time.

ET Warrior
10-25-2006, 01:41 AM
I think Sony is actually TRYING to implode on themselves.

TiE23
10-25-2006, 01:43 AM
One can only wonder.

Nalukai
10-25-2006, 01:47 AM
give them some toilet paper for christ's sake!

BongoBob
10-25-2006, 02:55 AM
Sony just needs to shut their mouths. I mean, damn, this is just bulls*** in it's idiocy.

I can say I'm a flying 4-slot toaster with extra wide slots and a coffee maker built in as much as I want, but that doesn't make what I say true does it.

Lightsaberboy
10-25-2006, 03:15 AM
Is there a link to the existing article? Not that I don't believe you. I find it funny how Sony is saying that, when their console is the most expensive, extra features or not.

abespam
10-25-2006, 04:14 AM
yes indeeed, i read this the day it came out (didnt make too big a deal of it) link (http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/archives/gaming_trends/003390.html)

Though the next dayish he responded to all the talk link (http://blogs.theage.com.au/screenplay/archives/gaming_news/003427.html)

Though im a wii-believer, in his defence he was just talking about the Aust. market place this Christmas which has the wii, the 360 and the ps2. The whole point of the article was about the ps2 price drop and basically the variety of games that are available at those prices to consumers.

Still, he was talking ****

MasterRoss08
10-25-2006, 04:38 AM
Lol! That sounded so funny from what that Ceo said. He may speak truth on that though. But with Blue ray technology im pretty sure its gonna be way more exspensive than Hdtv. Whats great about microsoft and Nintendo is atleast there systems are affordable compared to Sony. Sony is taking a big gamble on there new system exspecially the cost of there system.

jon_hill987
10-25-2006, 05:16 AM
I claim that everything Sony have ever made is overpriced

MasterRoss08
10-25-2006, 05:22 AM
Truth there. Buisnesses overprice products to make a profit off of anything they sell. Same goes for Microsoft and Nintendo. Supposedly Sonys Ps3 is more expensive due to there technology they put in there ps3. I expect Sony if they are gonna make any money off of there new system to be around there starting price for years. Which may lose alot of there loyal customers due to the half a k priced system which is to exspensive for lots of gamers.

Lynk Former
10-25-2006, 06:10 AM
1000AUD

Crow_Nest
10-25-2006, 06:11 AM
You know, reading the thread title made me smile. :D

Its so obvious that PS3 is more expensive than Wii and the Xbox 360. It looks almost like as if Sony is whining about how pricey their own system is compared to a much cheaper Xbox 360. :p

jon_hill987
10-25-2006, 06:41 AM
oh and all console games are overpriced, so are dvd's and cd's

BongoBob
10-25-2006, 08:58 AM
He's not even talking about the price to value ratio or anything, I mean they're just that retarted.

And at Lynk, I lold.

MTV2
10-25-2006, 10:53 AM
It's the cheapest in Canada and cheaper in Japan. in Japan its $420US and in canada it's $480US and $580US

and the most expensive in Denmark, $720US and $925US

th Wii looks attracting at $249.99US :D

Feanaro
10-25-2006, 12:07 PM
Does anyone know anymore about the whole licensing deal with the PS3? You know, you buy your game and it can only be used on that PS3. You're not actually buying the game, just the license to play it. Just wondering if anyone has heard anything new about that.

Commander Obi-Wan
10-25-2006, 03:21 PM
Yeah. I was thinking the Wii was too expensive at $249.99. Especially compared to the XBOX 360 at $399 and best of all, the PS3 at....what's that? $599! Wow, such a great deal.

:dozey:

Nalukai
10-26-2006, 12:59 AM
the wii lets you SWING--- the rest just lets yuu whore out with less "cartoony" graphics...... i think more ppl will go to wii just for its interactiveness... I know I would if i had more than an xbox and ps1 rather than PC....