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manoman81
11-21-2006, 08:05 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15821905/

I just don't get it. The guy that made New Line so much money and made the conversion from book to movie (for the most part) pretty well and they're dropping him. Way to go...

IG-64
11-21-2006, 08:18 PM
Screw that. Now I know they're not gonna do this right.

Boycott. :P

Commander Obi-Wan
11-21-2006, 08:21 PM
:(

That sucks, he did such a great job for the LOTR movies.

Bah humbug.

Jeff
11-21-2006, 08:51 PM
Hopefully they can get their little dispute solved and get him back on board, but sounds like that's not gonna happen. Too bad because he was awesome for LotR. Hopefully they can get someone good to replace him...

Curt-Man
11-21-2006, 09:16 PM
Stupid. Friggen stupid.

MrWally
11-21-2006, 11:26 PM
This makes me angry.

Feanaro
11-22-2006, 12:36 AM
This makes me wonder whether or not Ian McKellen and some of the other actors will return if Peter Jackson is not directing it.

BongoBob
11-22-2006, 12:45 AM
God damnit...

MasterRoss08
11-22-2006, 01:13 AM
This is all stupid. Just pay the guy the money he deserves &*^%$.
He is making you millions for doing such a great job on this series
so dont go blowing it now. Its not like he is asking for that much
more. Resolve this issue so he can also get to work on a Halo movieas well
:)

abespam
11-22-2006, 01:57 AM
Having another director wouldnt be the only bad thing. By losing Jackson they lose their production company WETA, which did all of the work for the lotr movies. Also it may no longer be shot in New Zealand.
Basically the movies would have characters (such as orcs) and settings (such as the shire and rivendell) completely different to what the LOTR movies had. ie twill be ****.

Emperor Devon
11-22-2006, 03:02 AM
Having a Middle-Earth film without Jackson is like having Star Wars without Lucas.

Sabretooth
11-22-2006, 03:17 AM
Let's just hope they don't get Uwe Boll, or somebody like him, to direct the Hobbit.

The weirdo will probably make the movie based off The Hobbit the Game. And that would be worse than anything mentioned here.

jon_hill987
11-22-2006, 05:25 AM
*Insert Darth Vader "NO!" here*

I would rather they didn't make the film than have someone else directing.

If we start some sort of petition do you reckon we could change things?

BongoBob
11-22-2006, 05:54 AM
If an online petition ever worked the world would implode.

Samuel Dravis
11-22-2006, 07:50 AM
Having a Middle-Earth film without Jackson is like having Star Wars without Lucas.Actually, losing Lucas wouldn't be too bad, but losing Jackson is not good. :(

MrWally
11-22-2006, 09:41 AM
So what will be Jackson's next movie?

Monkey Mania
11-22-2006, 09:45 AM
Actually, losing Lucas wouldn't be too bad, but losing Jackson is not good. :(

You fool!

the_raven_03
11-22-2006, 10:38 AM
Hold up on the worrying. I just read an article on RottenTomatoes.com that might make you all a little more optimistic.

Clicky Here (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=381433)

milo
11-22-2006, 02:47 PM
Even if it sucks, it can't be as bad as the original animated version of the hobbit.

Pie™
11-22-2006, 04:08 PM
On a side note, they have the right to do another prequel?

If they start an EU for Middle-Earth, I will kill someone.

coupes.
11-22-2006, 04:30 PM
On a side note, they have the right to do another prequel?

If they start an EU for Middle-Earth, I will kill someone.
I would love to see a series based on The Silmarillon though. :cool:

the_raven_03
11-22-2006, 04:41 PM
I had heard rumor that the second sequel would be some Silmarillion based stuff, as well as sort of connect The Hobbit and The Fellowship of the Ring.

Pie™
11-22-2006, 04:51 PM
Silmarillion is my favourite book, but I don't think it would work as a movie/series. The stories are too fragmented, and there isn't enough dialogue, only narrative.

Jeff
11-22-2006, 09:09 PM
I've tried to read the Silmarillion twice and I just can't get through it. I love the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings books but Silmarillion just reads to slow or something for me.

Samuel Dravis
11-22-2006, 09:37 PM
You fool!What? He's good at ideas, but not so good at implementation of said ideas IMO. When he let other people do what they know best like with ESB and RotJ it worked out well. With the prequels we got Jarjar and battle droids with highpitched voices. :p

I've tried to read the Silmarillion twice and I just can't get through it. I love the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings books but Silmarillion just reads to slow or something for me.I love the Silmarillion. Knowing the history of the world, in addition to how bad things actually are for men and elves makes the stand they take in LotR all that much more awesome. The elves' history is a real downer though; it's like every time they make a little headway they get ground into the dust...again. :(

Actually, I doubt it would make a good movie because of that. There's very few parts where the good guys actually win, and if they do win it's only temporary...

Commander Obi-Wan
11-22-2006, 10:30 PM
I've tried to read the Silmarillion twice and I just can't get through it. I love the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings books but Silmarillion just reads to slow or something for me.

Same here. Though, the only book I've read by Tolkein was The Hobbit. I just couldn't start the Silmarillion or the Lord of the Rings books.

Emperor Devon
11-23-2006, 12:19 AM
I liked the Silmarillion as much as the regular books, but they'd have to give it a major rewrite to make a movie out of it. It's more like a historical timeline than a cohesive story, and any film made of it would probably drag on and bore the audience. They'd have to focus on specific characters (like Beren) to make a profit.

Lightsaberboy
11-23-2006, 01:31 AM
I didnt even know there was a Hobbit movie planned....

Prime
11-23-2006, 12:00 PM
I think the Silmarillion would be very hard to make into a film. Perhaps a selection of some of the stories though.

Hobbit is much more famous to the general public though...

Samuel Dravis
11-23-2006, 08:08 PM
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=381433

Maybe MGM will just not distribute any Hobbit movie made by someone other than Jackson. lol.

MTV2
11-24-2006, 10:26 AM
This has been known for awhile now.

Too bad though, he made the LOTR series awesome.

MrWally
11-24-2006, 07:12 PM
Too bad though, he made the LOTR series awesome.


Yeah he did. But don't forget about that other guy. Tolken? or Tolkin? or Tolkien? Or something like that. I think he helped Jackson somewhere along the line.

the_raven_03
11-25-2006, 03:58 AM
Newest word over at Rotten Tomatoes is that Sam Raimi is being pursued to do the films.
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=381905

BongoBob
11-25-2006, 05:01 AM
Yeah he did. But don't forget about that other guy. Tolken? or Tolkin? or Tolkien? Or something like that. I think he helped Jackson somewhere along the line.

Who?

:xp:

Dagobahn Eagle
11-25-2006, 06:48 PM
I've got bad experiences with fourth movies. I get this horrible picture inside my head about a guy with long ears ruining the whole movie by bouncing around the main characters spewing silly lines.

So what will be Jackson's next movie?Lord of the Rings 4: The Victory Celebration. If you thought Brokeback Mountain was bad...

I don't think it would work as a movie/series.I recall quite a few people saying that about a certain trilogy, too. You know, the one with the ring and the dark riders and a gang of homosexuals saving the world;)?

I didnt even know there was a Hobbit movie planned....Me neither.

Mike Windu
11-25-2006, 07:20 PM
You know, the one with the ring and the dark riders and a gang of homosexuals saving the world?

Pee Wee's Big Adventure?

:p

In all seriousness, as much as I love Peter Jackson's movies, and want him to direct... I'm not really concerned about this (mainly because I've never read the Hobbit or Lord of the Rings series). Instead, I'm going to be hopeful that the movie will be great, because there's no sense whining and repeating "no no no no no." :)

Spider AL
11-25-2006, 07:41 PM
Originally Posted by Dagobahn Eagle:

I've got bad experiences with fourth movies. I get this horrible picture inside my head about a guy with long ears ruining the whole movie by bouncing around the main characters spewing silly lines.
Yeah, but Legolas won't be in the Hobbit...

At the end of the day, I'm not all that bothered if they don't make a Hobbit movie. I fear that even Jackson would make the tone too light, when it would ideally have to be told as a very dark fable indeed to retain the gravitas of the original text.

As for the Silmarillion being unfilmable... People said the same thing about LotR. Admittedly it wouldn't be the easiest literary project to adapt for the small screen... but it's certainly not impossible.

Monkey Mania
11-25-2006, 08:50 PM
What? He's good at ideas, but not so good at implementation of said ideas IMO. When he let other people do what they know best like with ESB and RotJ it worked out well. With the prequels we got Jarjar and battle droids with highpitched voices. :p

Do you like people complaining about your creation? It's George Lucas's universe, not yours, if you don't like what's in it, then oh well. There's nothing you can really do about it.

Spider AL
11-25-2006, 09:22 PM
Do you like people complaining about your creation? It's George Lucas's universe, not yours, if you don't like what's in it, then oh well. There's nothing you can really do about it.Lucas wasn't the only person to work on the original trilogy, friend. He didn't direct or script the best of the trilogy, ESB. His ideas were often overruled because he wasn't the media mogul he is today.

Face it, what he came out with in the prequels was poorly scripted, poorly directed dross, compared to the glorious group effort that was the OT.

All because he believed his own hype. Sad.

Mike Windu
11-25-2006, 09:22 PM
But the wittle battle droids were so cute :p

Dagobahn Eagle
11-25-2006, 10:02 PM
But the wittle battle droids were so cute
That gave me a mental image of Frodo taking on battle droids with a lightsabre on a dark and creepy night like in the "oh no, don't fry tomatoes, they see our bonfire"-scene :rofl:.