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The Seeker
01-12-2007, 11:41 AM
Well folks, it took me seven years from inspiration to absolute completion, but I finished my first book and sent it off to a publisher for consideration last week. So begins the horrible waiting 4-6 months for a response to find out if I'm going to be a published author or just an author.

I'm gonna go throw up now. :D

coupes.
01-12-2007, 11:51 AM
Wow, congratulations !

Now I guess you have a new pick-up line for the ladies :p

"I wrote a book, you know."

Pie™
01-12-2007, 12:39 PM
Tell us more about your book.

Good luck.

milo
01-12-2007, 12:44 PM
Just remember, J.K. Rowling went to like fifty different publishers before she could get her book published, so don't worry too much.

Good luck.

Bob Lion54
01-12-2007, 01:09 PM
Good luck to you!

Getting a book published is very difficult. If they hate it, don't let it discourage you. Many authors get horrible responses the first time they send a book in, only to eventually have they book become a best seller. heh. Remember, publishers are people too, and they are not always correct.

Hopefully, all goes well though! If not, keep sending it to different publishers.

"I wrote a book, you know."
Nah, the best pickup line is "I slay internet dragons!" I actually know someone who used that line...

Jeff
01-12-2007, 02:14 PM
Good luck man! Hope it gets published, that'd be sweet.

TiE23
01-12-2007, 04:11 PM
ZOMG I WANT SPOILERS!@!!11

Mercid
01-12-2007, 04:32 PM
ZOMG I WANT SPOILERS!@!!11
Ditto, but without the 1337 speak.
Plus, if you show us your book we'll know your real name. :dev7:

Boba Rhett
01-12-2007, 04:42 PM
Awesome news. Good luck! :haw:

Alegis
01-12-2007, 05:25 PM
Congratiulations! Always thought of writing a book someday, about what is still something to be decided.

Sample chapter, post it! Or at least a synopsis.

Dagobahn Eagle
01-12-2007, 05:31 PM
It also has to do with the publisher. Certain publishers only publish certain kinds of books.

Name and synopsis of book?

ET Warrior
01-12-2007, 05:35 PM
Tell us what your book is about before we hunt you down and eviscerate you.

Best of luck with the publishers.

Dagobahn Eagle
01-12-2007, 05:48 PM
It's only out of your hands until they've reviewed it and sent back either a list of desired changes, or a refusal slip. Either way, you're not done by a long way.

The Seeker
01-12-2007, 06:28 PM
Wow, thanks guys. So the general consensus seems to be you want the title, what it's about and possibly a sample.

Well, out of the goodness of my heart, because I rock just that much, I'll give you the title and synopsis. If you're intrigued enough, I might just throw you a chapter or two.

As you can guess, from the synopsis, it's a Fantasy novel, and it weighs in at just under 200,000 words

Title: Fate's Warriors

Synopsis: Jarrek Korvan, a minor clairvoyant and hero of a war six years previous is suddenly called to duty once again, this time to help defend his city from an unprovoked invasion by the neighboring Shalorain Empire.

It's only after the fierce battle that he discovers the true reasons for the attack. It was used as a diversion so that a single sorcerer could infiltrate the city and recover a mysterious artifact. Jarrek doesn't know what the sorcerer found. He only knows that whatever it was was hidden beneath his house and that his wife Azura tried to stop the sorcerer and was murdered in the process.

As he searches desperately for clues to the identity of the killer, he has a vision of the future. He Sees the sorcerer standing in a clearing that he knows well, eight years into the future, holding whatever he recovered from beneath Jarrek's house. He can't see the killer's face, but he does see that he is protected by a dozen Shalorain Blood Warriors.

Blood Warriors serve as royal bodyguards, and the only line of law in the Shalorain Empire. Trained from birth to adulthood martially and magically, they are the fiercest fighting force in the world.

Jarrek knows that he stands no chance of fighting through them, so he enlists the aid of his friend Gavin, a banished sorceress named Sonya, along with a dozen street kids from his city. His plan is to train the kids over the next eight years so that when the time comes, they can face off against the Blood Warriors so that he can kill the sorcerer who murdered his wife.

What he doesn't know is that the sorcerer is the crown prince of the Shalorain Empire, secretly trained to use magic, and is searching for a set of ancient scepters, stolen at the founding of the world. Once he joins all five of them together, he will have access to power that rivals the gods themselves.

So while Jarrek is setting forward with revenge being his only goal, the prince continues his quest to find the scepters. When they meet, it will be a battle that is merely a continuation between mortals what was started by the gods. A battle that has been destined forever and will once and for all decide the fate of the world.

So, that's it in a nutshell without giving too many spoilers. And thanks again to all the well wishers.

I am well prepared to be violently shot down by the publisher, so fear not. If it's turned down, I'll move on to the next on my list. Still, I can't help but hope it's accepted right away.

Mike Windu
01-12-2007, 06:46 PM
Best of luck to you man- fantasy novels are hard to sell cause there's so many.

But don't give up! Keep writing even if you get published. Novels need sequels. :p

edlib
01-12-2007, 06:55 PM
You're gonna dedicate it to all of us, right? ;)

Good luck. :)

The Seeker
01-12-2007, 06:58 PM
You're gonna dedicate it to all of us, right? ;)

Good luck. :)

Ya know, you guys will be in the acknowledgments. A couple years ago, I needed help naming one of the characters, and got a lot of good ideas. Some I used, some I changed, others I ignored. But either way, the Swamp was a fountain of help.

MrWally
01-12-2007, 07:30 PM
wait... I think I actually remember that.

I remember a thread waay back.. maybe before I was actually a member, where someone was asking about good non-cheesy sounding character names... or the name of a sort of magic or something.

Was that you?

Commander Obi-Wan
01-12-2007, 07:45 PM
Congrats, man. Hope all goes well.

I'll look out for it on the bookshelves. ;)

The Seeker
01-12-2007, 07:58 PM
wait... I think I actually remember that.

I remember a thread waay back.. maybe before I was actually a member, where someone was asking about good non-cheesy sounding character names... or the name of a sort of magic or something.

Was that you?

Little diggin' and lo and behold *SHA SHA* Villain Name thread (http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=31190)

BongoBob
01-12-2007, 08:26 PM
Good Luck Seeker! Hope you get picked up :D

Btw, congrats for having the dedication to do something like that. I hate writing essays for school, let alone a whole book :xp:

Now you know you need to let us know if anything happens right ;)

MrWally
01-12-2007, 09:11 PM
So did you actually choose Xa'Tenin?

The Seeker
01-12-2007, 09:41 PM
why yes I did. It was just the name I needed. Haven't seen Millions o monkeys around in forever though. It was him who thought of the name, which I pronounce zah-ten-in btw. Good name.

I also posted a sample chapter forever ago, but due to rewrites, that is no longer a legit chapter. Well, it's legit, just not exactly canon with the rest of the book anymore.

RoxStar
01-12-2007, 10:03 PM
I remember a thread waay back.. maybe before I was actually a member, where someone was asking about good non-cheesy sounding character names... or the name of a sort of magic or something.

Was that you?

I thought it was RP who needed suggestions on something for his book. He developed a force similar to "The Force" but wanted to call it a different name.

TiE23
01-13-2007, 01:23 AM
As you can guess, from the synopsis, it's a Fantasy novel, and it weighs in at just under 200,000 words

Well, to see how long 200,000 words is I took that synopsis of yours and copy and pasted until I had 198,000 words... 357 pages single space in 12 font on 8.5x11" paper... Holy ****.

Then I took a general slightly large paper-back novel type size of 8x6.5" with 10 font and it weighed around 525 pages...

Tell your publisher that you want a non stereotypical cover... I was thinking, in my little mind, that if I ever had a book published, I would find a commission artist on DeviantArt and have them make you a cool cover for relatively cheap.

Also, if you thank us (Lucas Forums) somewhere in the book I will, on pain of death, buy 3 copies of this book. Otherwise it will probably only be one copy.

The Seeker
01-13-2007, 01:52 AM
Well, to see how long 200,000 words is I took that synopsis of yours and copy and pasted until I had 198,000 words... 357 pages single space in 12 font on 8.5x11" paper... Holy ****.

Then I took a general slightly large paper-back novel type size of 8x6.5" with 10 font and it weighed around 525 pages...

Tell your publisher that you want a non stereotypical cover... I was thinking, in my little mind, that if I ever had a book published, I would find a commission artist on DeviantArt and have them make you a cool cover for relatively cheap.

Also, if you thank us (Lucas Forums) somewhere in the book I will, on pain of death, buy 3 copies of this book. Otherwise it will probably only be one copy.

Heh, you could've just asked. The length of a book in the writing business is expressed in how many words it is rather than pages, but yeah, 8x11 paper single spaced it's 351 pages. Double spaced, which is more to scale with a 250-300 words per page paperback it comes to 659 pages. The average Fantasy book is 80,000-120,000 words, so this one is slightly larger, though Terry Goodkind's sword of truth novels hit the 300k mark pretty frequently. Bigger than most, smaller than some, here's hoping it works out.

And the way it works with the book cover is that the author rarely gets a say in how it looks. However, that is all covered in negotiations which is the part where you basically sell whatever aspects of your soul you feel you can part with. The more rights to your book you keep, the less cash you get. And since I have a really good day job, I'm probably gonna push for a say in what it looks like in the end.

I put a lot of work into cutting out the most horrendous Fantasy cliches, and I'd hate to see them slap a stupid cover on it.

And yes, while you, my fellow Swampies won't be named individually, the denizens of this little corner of Lucasforums will definatly have a place in the acknowledgments.

ET Warrior
01-13-2007, 02:31 AM
You WILL put my name in it, or I'm going to start deleting your posts.

:xp:

IG-64
01-13-2007, 04:39 AM
Hey, congrats on finishing. And good luck to you to get it published.
Questions: is it set on earth? And is it set in any specific era?

My brother is writing a book. Actually, he's writing seven books. He's already just about done with one of the books, and about halfway done with another. I don't think he's planning to publish them until he's just about done with the series. That's the last I've heard though, I asked him not to tell me that much about it, because I don't want spoilers. :p

Datheus
01-13-2007, 08:17 AM
Hey, while we're talking about words, did you ever manage to write 10,000 words in a day? If it took you years to write the book, probably not, but I hear 10,000 words in a day is the holy grail of writers. Sometimes well known writers will crank out a novel in two weeks.

Glad to hear you're going to try to retain as much as your artistic integrity as possible. Maybe I'll see your book next time I walk into Barnes and Noble!

You should acknowledge the Swamp collectively as, "Those dudes with the largest e-penises on all the internets."

The Doctor
01-13-2007, 09:33 AM
Fate's Warriors. I'll be sure to pick up a copy next time I see it on the shelves. Good luck! :)

Mike Windu
01-13-2007, 09:40 AM
I hear there's a film adaptation coming...

:O

Mercid
01-13-2007, 10:25 AM
Maybe I'll see your book next time I walk into Barnes and Noble!
Good idea, it would be an excuse to use that Barnes and Noble's gift card I got for Christmas.

The Seeker
01-13-2007, 11:54 AM
You should acknowledge the Swamp collectively as, "Those dudes with the largest e-penises on all the internets."
:rofl::rofl:

And I doubt I managed to write 10k in one day. It's hard to keep exact count on the first draft, because I wrote it by hand. But I do remember one particular day when I wrote some twenty pages which would put me at around 5000 words give or take.

You WILL put my name in it, or I'm going to start deleting your posts.

geez, all the hostility. Well, my friend, I don't respond well to threats. So now the acknowledgements will look something like this "And thanks to all the members of the Swamp over at lucasforums, biggest e-penises on the net. Except for ET. No thanks whatsoever go to him, and confidentially, I don't think his e-penis is worth mentioning." :p

And if your gift cards have expirations on them, don't bother waiting to use them. IF, they want my book (which takes them six months to respond), it's a year to year and a half from the time contracts are signed to the book hitting the shelves.

Questions: is it set on earth? And is it set in any specific era?

I never actually name the place where it's set, but no, it isn't earth. It's one of those Fantasy worlds that mirrors earth in many ways without actually being earth. And since there weren't earthly restrictions, the most accurate time you could put on it is it's before gunpowder. They all use swords, have advanced war waging capabilities, and have good sailing technology. Sorcerers play a huge part in major battles, and supplement traditional healers when needed.

The major difference with this and most Fantasy is that it's sort of smaller scale. The villain doesn't have a horde evil, faceless minion creatures, and the good guy doesn't know that he's saving countless people by trying to kill the baddie. The characters are all human (or elven. had to throw that in in Fantasy) and the story is based around how they handle this situation rather than the situation itself.

But, I'll definately keep you guys posted on what happens with it. and considering the kudos I've gotten on my battle scenes, I'm thinkin you'll dig it.

Tyrion
01-13-2007, 02:18 PM
Summary LOL!


Heh, when I had first looked at the post I had just absent mindedly clicked on the thread without acknowledging what the heck it was, and when I scrolled down I read the summary under the pretense it was for some new novel actually out instead of something you had wrote. When I did read it though, I thought it sounded like a cool synopsis for a fantasy series and then I wandered out of the thread. When I came back an hour or so later and clicked on your thread again this time comprehending the fact you're a start up writer; when I found out the summary was yours, I was all "Kickass!"

So yeah, sounds like it'll be good. Unless your writing ability sucks, which is always possible I guess. :p

ET Warrior
01-13-2007, 02:40 PM
"And thanks to all the members of the Swamp over at lucasforums, biggest e-penises on the net. Except for ET. No thanks whatsoever go to him, and confidentially, I don't think his e-penis is worth mentioning." I shall see to it that yours is a slow and painful death.

:xp:

Mercid
01-13-2007, 05:25 PM
If your gift cards have expirations on them, don't bother waiting to use them. IF, they want my book (which takes them six months to respond), it's a year to year and a half from the time contracts are signed to the book hitting the shelves.
Thanks for the advice, I knew they'd have to get back to you, print it, and ship it. But a whole 6 month's just to tell you whether they like it of not? That's insane!

Elf's, had to throw that in in Fantasy
NOOOO! NOT ELVES! As long as it never touches elven history, the book should be ok. O_o (why can't Dwarves ever be the main race in fantasy novel's?)

I'm thinkin you'll dig it.
If it has a peasant riding a catapult in it, I'll read anything. :xp:

Lady Jedi
01-13-2007, 06:51 PM
geez, all the hostility. Well, my friend, I don't respond well to threats. So now the acknowledgements will look something like this "And thanks to all the members of the Swamp over at lucasforums, biggest e-penises on the net. Except for ET. No thanks whatsoever go to him, and confidentially, I don't think his e-penis is worth mentioning." :p


Ehm. Why would you know that? :eyeraise:

Anyway congrats on sending it in. Maybe the publisher will see how kickass it is on the first go. Although if it doesn't, I think that Christopher Paolini's parents run a publishing house. You could always hunt them down and make threats, you know. :p

Dagobahn Eagle
01-13-2007, 07:13 PM
Bottom line: If you like writing, don't stop.

Elf's, had to throw that in in FantasyRespectfully, I beg to differ. I find the Dwarves, Elves, Orcs and Goblins theme to be woefully overused, which is one of the reasons why I so much love the Dominions (http://www.illwinter.com/) series of "indie" strategy games so much - they make use of mythology other than the one frequently drawn upon.

Having said that, it appears that the majority of the fantasy community disagrees with me, so no worries. If your book's good, people won't mind.

Reclaimer
01-13-2007, 09:24 PM
Writing the book must've been hard for you. I hope it gets approved.

BongoBob
01-13-2007, 10:43 PM
Ehm. Why would you know that? :eyeraise:

That made my day :D

Tyrion
01-14-2007, 01:32 AM
Respectfully, I beg to differ. I find the Dwarves, Elves, Orcs and Goblins theme to be woefully overused, which is one of the reasons why I so much love the Dominions (http://www.illwinter.com/) series of "indie" strategy games so much - they make use of mythology other than the one frequently drawn upon.


What he says is the truth. It's the only good game I can think of that can have Arthurian armies against Romanesque Undead armies against Chinese demon hoards against Indian monkey armies(seriously, they have the latter-most army in the game and I have not ruled out the possibility of creating a monolith God for those damned apes so I can rule the world in all Kubrick fashion).

The Seeker
01-14-2007, 01:40 AM
Bottom line: If you like writing, don't stop.

Respectfully, I beg to differ. I find the Dwarves, Elves, Orcs and Goblins theme to be woefully overused, which is one of the reasons why I so much love the Dominions (http://www.illwinter.com/) series of "indie" strategy games so much - they make use of mythology other than the one frequently drawn upon.

Having said that, it appears that the majority of the fantasy community disagrees with me, so no worries. If your book's good, people won't mind.

Now these aren't the tolkien elves, all high and mighty, scoffing at mankind's weakness, and walking and talking in slow motion for some reason. They are really only mentioned in passing and the only elven character is half human. I know that elves are overused, but I consider them a staple of fantasy in some form or another. Besides, my inspiration wasn't in the form of Tolkien, so you'll see very few resemblences to his stuff. I was inspired by lesser known fantasy authors, so if I did any accidental plagerism, then it won't be as easy to spot as say, Christopher Paolini's stuff.

But yeah, what you mentioned about the overuse of orcs, and dwarves, and elves, I totally agree with. That's why all of the characters (except for the half-elf) are human. Keeps it grounded in as much reality as possible whilst staying fantastic.

why can't Dwarves ever be the main race in fantasy novel's?

Because dwarves are unatractive and surly, and I don't like them. That's why. :p