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Darth Badguy
03-03-2007, 09:07 AM
In my opinion, the execution of order 66 was really really bad. The clones could have done it without any losses and even Yoda and Obi One could have been killed.

Take Ki Adi Mundu. The clones get Order 66 and what do they do? They go stand behind him and reload, one by one. I mean, wtf? They could have reloaded a long time before and if they had to reload now, reload together, not one after the other... even a gungan could have taken some clones with him now...

And what about obi-one? Instead of using a large group of snipers to take him down and some heavy troopers with bazookas to fisnih it, COdy decides to take ONE, SINGLE heavy trooper!!! Why? In the battle of Utapau there were THOUSANDS of clones...

Yoda at last. A clone trooper walks toward a Scout Trooper to tell him "Let's kill Yoda". A Scout Trooper. He has a damn sniperrifle!!! And what do they doe? They walk towards Yoda and stop one meter behind him...

CSI
03-04-2007, 07:24 AM
If Yoda and Obi-wan Died, then there would be no Epi. 4,5,and 6.

Darth Badguy
03-04-2007, 09:09 AM
*Sigh*, I know that, I'm just telling you that the clone troppers sucked in order 66

Pho3nix
03-04-2007, 09:17 AM
Indeed they did. I also think the Jedi sucked, a lifetime of training and they go down from a few blaster shots? meh.

But the movie is done, so you just have to live with it.

PoiuyWired
03-04-2007, 09:28 AM
Well, Actually they could have it done with more finesse. Well they should have sent a whole bunch of rpgs at Obi Wan instead of one, ince rpg might be a bit better with no saber deflection(though force push would work) Obviously a mix of rpg and sniper simotaneous attack would have solved the problem. Though obviously a too perfect 66 scheme on survivable characters would be bad.

As for yoda, at least they should have given the effort to use sniper rifles. It is ok if they get deflect killed, but it would make both clones and yoda look cooler.

As for Vos, that is a more reasonable one, I mean they try to search and kill him carefully.

Secura... what a waste of a hot twi'lek body, they should have used a more gentle way of termination, so did offee.

Darth Badguy
03-05-2007, 10:50 AM
Vos? I can't remember seeing him die in the movie...

MachineCult
03-08-2007, 11:56 AM
Vos didn't die, and he wasn't in the movie.

JoeDoe 2.0
03-08-2007, 11:58 AM
Read the STAR WARS: CLONE WARS VOLUME 9: ENDGAME to see how Vos escaped.

PoiuyWired
03-08-2007, 02:33 PM
Vos is "mentioned" in the movie, and the battle he is mentioned in... OMG that is one of the coolest star wars battle.


Oh the related episodes are first in Star Wars Republic 81-83 Hidden loyalties. Oh the Inferno is there also, yay!

Kurgan
03-08-2007, 10:34 PM
Didn't one source say he was torn apart by an explosion? That got retconned so he could survive.

It's the EU, go figure... in Episode III we just got a mention of a "Master Vos." No explanation given for who his is or what happens to him (I just presumed he died with all the other Jedi aside from Obi-Wan, Yoda and Vader, via Order 66 and the immediate aftermath).

And now apparently Shaak Ti is alive too, despite the fact that we have two different accounts of her death (neither seen in the movie; in one Grievous executes her on the Invisible Hand, in another she's at the temple and Anakin catches her off guard and kills her).

All of these "lost Jedi" have to survive the purge of course, to give the EU fodder to keep going. Of course before the prequels were made, they had these dozens of Jedi that had survived, that we never heard of (and were never mentioned in any of the movies). It's just because the writers (and apparently the readers) want to hear about all this Jedi stuff, and it's hard to do that if they're all dead except for the two in hiding we know about (and the one turncoat who now works for the Emperor).

PoiuyWired
03-09-2007, 08:55 AM
Actually the Source of him being killed is the same source about him surviving the explosion in wookieeworld. He survived the explosion, managed to evade/terminate the clones(he hates them) hunting him while heavily wounded, and met up with his son and wife, and the ninja jedi couple with the help of an Inferno demon. The same episode also confirms the death of Luminara.

Note that Vos survived using both Jedi and Sith ways, as he claimed, he is going to be with his slut(ex slut) whatever way it takes, be it light or dark.

Kylilin
03-09-2007, 05:55 PM
Speaking of Quinlan Vos, there is speculation that he will play a part in the live action Star Wars TV show coming in a few years. Any thoughts?

JoeDoe 2.0
03-09-2007, 08:20 PM
Yeah, I think I have seen that someplace else, if its true, then I hope the actor who plays him portrays him well.

jawathehutt
03-15-2007, 01:38 AM
Indeed they did. I also think the Jedi sucked, a lifetime of training and they go down from a few blaster shots? meh.

But the movie is done, so you just have to live with it.
Thats like saying that SEALs suck if they get shot. True they spend tons of time training, but if you get shot repeatedly, theres a very high chance your going to die, training or none.

Nedak
03-15-2007, 04:20 PM
But the movie is done, so you just have to live with it.

I wonder if GL knows that the prequels arenít very good...

Jurrassco
03-16-2007, 07:22 PM
And what about obi-one? Instead of using a large group of snipers to take him down and some heavy troopers with bazookas to fisnih it, COdy decides to take ONE, SINGLE heavy trooper!!! Why? In the battle of Utapau there were THOUSANDS of clones...


well, acually, the didn't use a heavy trooper at all. it was an AT-TE. Cody probably thought that an AT-TE could handle a Jedi Knight.

PoiuyWired
03-17-2007, 10:43 AM
Well, I think the AT-TE failed to kill any jedi knights. If I remember right they try to kill Vos with a AT-TE cannon also while he is on top of a dreadnought.

NOTE: Dreadnaught is a vehicle, not a walking robot-like armor thingy with a deadish person inside.

Darth Badguy
03-25-2007, 11:13 AM
Dreadnought is also a star-destroyer-sized spaceship

Bomberman65
03-26-2007, 03:41 AM
I wonder if GL knows that the prequels arenít very good...

What are you talking aobut. I love the PT just as much as the OT. Infact I see them as one movie not at 6 movies. The PT is great but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

MachineCult
03-26-2007, 05:47 AM
What are you talking aobut. I love the PT just as much as the OT. Infact I see them as one movie not at 6 movies. The PT is great but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
I completely agree, all the movies are the Star Wars saga and I don't see how people can hate one half of it but love the other.

Bomberman65
03-26-2007, 06:23 AM
Yeah Its strange. But mah some people are SW fans and others like me and MC are true SW fans.

PoiuyWired
03-26-2007, 08:52 AM
Well, I basically like both OT and PT. Obviously there are parts I don't like about some of the movies either due to acting(you know what I mean) and scripts(OP love dialogue etc) or overexposure of some characters(couple jarjar scenes), but basically I like all parts of the saga. Oh yeah that includes many of the EU moments too.

Bomberman65
03-26-2007, 06:54 PM
What we're saying is if you like the OT more than the PT then your not a true fan. You have to like them both the same. I mean you can have your gripes about both trilogys but you still have to like both the same to be a true SW fan.

PoiuyWired
03-27-2007, 03:15 AM
Define "the same:?

I like both relatively the same. Star Wars is one big movie divided in 6 parts(and some EU) But obviously there are episodes and sections that someone like more. I mean, even for pure OT fans many of them would have a fav(like ESB)

Oh, anyont think that good old orbital bombardment would be a better way to finish off some of the jedis? Sure you might kill some clones, but it might work better. Obviously I would also suggest some nice biochemical weaponary, but I doubt the clones would be equipped with those at the time.

gatekeeper6838
04-02-2007, 10:10 PM
I think the prequel trilogy just wasn't pulled off right, period. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy those movies. In fact, I jumped on the bandwagon when I saw Episode II and III and said that I almost enjoyed them as much as the original movies. It wasn't until I actually sat down and watched them all in order, on DVD in all their widescreen glory that I realized how much worse the prequels are. In fact, I've watched all 6 movies several times in order over the last year or so, and the more I watch them, the more I feel the originals are superior.

My biggest problem looking back on the prequels is that they just aren't believable. What the original movies had was realism and subtlety, everything from the real locations they were filmed at to the ingenious designs of the spacecraft. Even the love between Han and Leia was far more subtle and believable than Anakin and Padme's relationship, which seemed a little to forced and over the top. Sure, this is a sci-fi series, but it was a world (or, should I say galaxy) that we could easily relate to our own. Flight maneuvers in the space battles were patterned after real World War II dogfights. The imperials seemed like a real world empire, reminiscent of Rome or Germany. They were a much more believable (and menacing) enemy than the awful, bumbling, laughable trade federation with their cartoony (and just plain annoying) battle droids.

That brings me to my next point. Although the prequels have neat special effects, it seems so much more childish and cartoon like. I am aware that children are one of Star War's chief audiences, but it was as if I, II and III tried to appeal to much to kids and not enough to older audiences. In the original movies, sure, there were things that were obviously meant for a younger audience, but it also had a very serious atmosphere throughout the film. If you think about it, most of the creatures and robots in the prequels are a joke and can hardly be taken seriously at all. I think it's okay to have a few goofy characters in even serious movies, but I, II and III are chock full of them whereas the original movies only had a handful, and their goofiness was subtle .

My final complaint revolves around the plot holes the prequels generated. In my opinion, there are too many inconsistencies with the references made in the original movies compared to what actually happens in the prequels.

Anyway, that's my two cents. And, like I said, I still enjoy the prequels and even go as far as to say they're great movies. They're just not great Star Wars movies.

PoiuyWired
04-03-2007, 06:26 AM
Well, jarjar aside PT is not as bad as you think. I do agree that the scripting/cting is not as good in some places, and the romance part is just, badly done. Its like, if that id how GL would act to a girl then there is no way there would be Mrs. GL unless GL persuades the girl with a huge wooden stick and drag her home.

But I don't mind the more heroic and direct approach of things like Flight maneuvers and what not. I mean these are Jedis and droids mostly. Yes I like the way OT did it, despite the fact that things can be done so differently since its space with no gravity and many more things can be changed. But its a different war, so different approach is needed.

Its a different atmosphere, cause IT IS DIFFERENT. There is a difference between a corrupted republic, and a powerful galactic empire.

gatekeeper6838
04-04-2007, 11:25 PM
Well, jarjar aside PT is not as bad as you think. I do agree that the scripting/cting is not as good in some places, and the romance part is just, badly done. Its like, if that id how GL would act to a then there is no way there would be Mrs. GL unless GL persuades the with a huge wooden stick and drag her home.

But I don't mind the more heroic and direct approach of things like Flight maneuvers and what not. I mean these are Jedis and droids mostly. Yes I like the way OT did it, despite the fact that things can be done so differently since its space with no gravity and many more things can be changed. But its a different war, so different approach is needed.

Its a different atmosphere, cause IT IS DIFFERENT. There is a difference between a corrupted republic, and a powerful galactic empire.

You're right. It is different, and it's supposed to be different. I don't think different is a bad thing, but I think they could have pulled it off a little better. That doesn't mean the PT are bad movies, I just think they had more potential than they ended up showing.

I do think I should mention what was done right in the PT, and there are several things that I think are worth mentioning. For one, I can safely say the light saber battle in Phantom Menace was phenomenal. It's one of those scenes that I'll watch by itself if I've got a few minutes here and there, even if I don't watch the rest of the movie. Attack of the Clones had some great scenes, namely the fight between Jango Fett and Obi Wan and the light saber duel against Count Dookou (spelling?). I even particularly enjoy the scene where the clone troops come in and rescue the outnumbered jedi by wasting the pathetic Trade Tederation and Geonosians. Even the sense of mystery and darker atmosphere in Ep. II is pulled off in a decent fashion.

There are even some very scenic moments in Episode III, but after watching it several times I'm starting to think Epsiode III is my least favorite (next to Phantom)... not because of the storyline, but because of it's execution. Anikan's unbelievable, almost instantaneous turn to the Dark Side was disappointing. They did more in Episode II to make Anikan's transition to the darkside believable than in Episode III. The execution of order 66 (getting back to the original subject of this thread) is bad, as well as Darth Vader's lame behavior upon suiting up. And let's not forget that awful, pointless filler character General Grievous. Nevertheless, I still enjoyed the movie. I enjoyed all of them, and still do enjoy them, I just don't think they lived up to the originals. However, to be fair the PT had a lot to live up to and certainly deserve to be judged in their own right, OT aside. That being said, the PT are still good.

PoiuyWired
04-05-2007, 03:24 PM
I have to agree that without watching the EU(comics, tv animation, you know the whole drill) anakin's fall seems all too fast. That also makes a point. There are things in the PT series that are there assuming you are already in the know about some starwars stuff (and planty comments that are there only for the fans). That means, it is expacted that you understand the stories of OT before you walked into the theatre. Then again, it would be hard to understand for us people here. I mean, everyone here have watched the movies at least once, perhaps more. But there are people out there who did not even spend the time to sit and watch the whole OT before they start watching the PT, and there will be things that are confusing to them. (Yes I got this response from a friend when we all go watch PM the first time)

gatekeeper6838
04-06-2007, 02:36 AM
True. Not everyone who watches the prequels has necessarily seen the originals or been exposed to the EU. In fact, I have to admit that even I haven't read/seen a good chunk of the expanded universe stuff out there, aside from a few Star Wars EU books and games here and there (In a game of Star Wars Trivial Pursuit I wasted my friend in the trivia from the movies, but he had the upper hand in the EU trivia).

There is a lot of EU material out there, and one of the things I don't like about the EU is that there are a lot of plot inconsistencies. This is understandable (even excusable) because there are so many different authors/game designers/producers, etc. that it would be impossible to have every book, tv show, game and comic connect perfectly. For that very reason, I don't consider the EU as having any authority on the actual storyline Lucas wrote. In other words, I don't think the EU has any bearing on the story of the two trilogies. That doesn't mean they aren't good stories, however.

What I don't think is excusable is how George Lucas, who is the final authority when it comes to the movie story lines, failed to properly connect the two trilogies together. It's like they're loosely based on each other (like the EU) but there are still plot inconsistencies between the two trilogies.

MeToua
04-06-2007, 03:26 AM
I would agree. they really didnt connect but were good

aner21
05-28-2007, 08:57 PM
Personaly I'm a fan of the OT but find the PT lacking. The thing is, most people saw the OT and know how it'll end.
PT should've been carefully thought up, since its easy to make it dull and uninteresting. The PT's timetable is its own worse enemy. It's inadequate and a bit dull (I really saw no need to introduce young Anakin for the entire movie, the first half was more than enough, not to mention that jarjar "character") you could almost squeeze all the EpI and 1st half of Ep2 in one movie storiewise, 2nd half of Ep2 and 1st half Ep3 in another and actually make Anakin's fall to the dark side and the destruction of the entire Jedi Order something worth seeing instead of shoot, miss, hit, your dead. In under 10 minutes the Order ceases to exist and some characters had a really poor and underated death.

Master Kai
07-19-2007, 01:40 AM
What about poor Plo-Koon, he didn't even get a chance to use his lightsaber to defend himself, instead he was shot down...which by the way was shot way too easy. You'd think that a master of the council would have better force sensitivity to be able to sense being shot at :P Anyway, although the movie was kewl, order 66 did seem to make the jedi appear weak, even though they were taken by suprise.

hellhawk
08-08-2007, 01:42 PM
What about poor Plo-Koon, he didn't even get a chance to use his lightsaber to defend himself, instead he was shot down...which by the way was shot way too easy. You'd think that a master of the council would have better force sensitivity to be able to sense being shot at :P Anyway, although the movie was kewl, order 66 did seem to make the jedi appear weak, even though they were taken by suprise.

i noticed that to... ki adi mundai was also a jedi master who was killed without to much effert. i mean shoudent he be able to sense there trying to kill him rather then sit there signaling like a drunken lindsey lohanhs?

Sir Phobos
08-12-2007, 10:48 PM
In my opinion, the execution of order 66 was really really bad. The clones could have done it without any losses and even Yoda and Obi One could have been killed.

Clone trooper losses? Theres more where they came from!

Take Ki Adi Mundu. The clones get Order 66 and what do they do? They go stand behind him and reload, one by one. I mean, wtf? They could have reloaded a long time before and if they had to reload now, reload together, not one after the other... even a gungan could have taken some clones with him now...

But hey died right? Mission accomplished...and he only took a one or two clone troopers out with him. I expected a little better than that.

And what about obi-one? Instead of using a large group of snipers to take him down and some heavy troopers with bazookas to fisnih it, COdy decides to take ONE, SINGLE heavy trooper!!! Why? In the battle of Utapau there were THOUSANDS of clones...

Yeop...that was sloppy.

Yoda at last. A clone trooper walks toward a Scout Trooper to tell him "Let's kill Yoda". A Scout Trooper. He has a damn sniperrifle!!! And what do they doe? They walk towards Yoda and stop one meter behind him...

Again that was just plain dumb but we're talking about two of our main characters here. Order 66 went off (largely) spectacular in my opinion. Perfect timing and almost every single Jedi dead, I think that's pretty good. Empire 4 teh win.

PoiuyWired
08-13-2007, 02:35 AM
I was always thinking that Maybe the trust and close friendly relationship between Cody and ObiWan works both ways. Subconsciously Cody is trying to help ObiWan so he send less than effective firepower to hunt down his former friend.

Remember, that some clone units would go as far as protecting the Jedis rather than executing order 66.

In the end it is a win-win situation.

DarthMuffin
08-13-2007, 11:42 AM
I was always thinking that Maybe the trust and close friendly relationship between Cody and ObiWan works both ways. Subconsciously Cody is trying to help ObiWan so he send less than effective firepower to hunt down his former friend.

Remember, that some clone units would go as far as protecting the Jedis rather than executing order 66.

In the end it is a win-win situation.

Yes, like in the Vader novel where the jedi (forgot his name) is actually saved by his commandos. Perhaps the commanders, like Cody, had more individuality left than the normal clones (at least enough for his friendship to take some place). Of course that's all speculation and we'll never know.

When people say that some Jedi, like Ki Adi Mundi, died too easily, they forget that they really did not expect to get shot by their own soldiers. Even a Jedi with uber reflexes and all would be stunned for a moment to see the soldiers he fought with for months turn against him.

aner21
08-20-2007, 10:32 PM
Still, we ARE talking of a universe were force sensitives can see the future. The way it was handled was ... poor. The only person who had a fighting chance was a youngling at the temple, and we all know who his daddy is...
Ayla Secura's death was another one that ticked me. the clone had time to receive the call, raise its weapon against her, take aim, fire and she didn't "sense" it some how?? She was standing next to him and nothing?
A ripple, a disturbance in the force, something???
Its not has if she was fighting someone with the necessary training and discipline to disguise the instant mental change that happened when the order was received.

PoiuyWired
08-21-2007, 02:59 AM
Well, Hence many Jedis got away from what we know it. And in defence of Secura, She did notice something is wrong, but is distracted by other things. People like A'Sharad Hett escaped in other ways also. And, many of those Jedis would escape the initial clone attack to be hunted down later. Some would just decide to live like non jedis.

Btw, to the clones this is just an order like always, with no special emotion attached to it, making it much harder to sense, especially when jedis do not usually like to peek into others mind.

Totenkopf
08-25-2007, 01:25 AM
As I recall, the DS cast a pall over the future and made things harder for the jedi in general. As it takes but a moment to pull a/many triggers, the element of surprise coupled w/a moments hesitation is more than enough to do even a jedi (especially a distracted one) in.

As to Anakin's fall, he had already fallen pretty far by the last movie. Since several years have passed between AOTC and RoTJ, it's not so surprising that he'd fall so "quickly". But that "Nooooo..." at the end was sadly pathetic.

PoiuyWired
08-25-2007, 03:58 PM
He should have yelled "D'oh" Homer Style!!!

And yes a split-second's hesitation is enough for anyone to be dead, Jedi or not-jedi. Plus, as said before, a jedi in a vehicle is roufhly only equal to the vehicle in its top performance. Just because there is a jedi inside doesn't turn your starfighter into a Starscream or other things funky(even though that would be cool). Plus, invincable vehicles due to special pilots is the area of Anime, not Jedis, so no playing Zeta Gundam.

Totenkopf
08-25-2007, 05:43 PM
Yeah, Homer as Vader and Burns as the Emperor. Homer:Where's Marge? Burns:You killed her Simpson. Homer: D'oh d'oh d'oh....(see's a doghnut)...mmmm, doughnuts

garm_bel_iblis
10-06-2007, 06:58 AM
I read somewhere that originally Order 66 was supposed to be executed a lot differently. The theory was (I think) that Darth Sidious was so powerful with the Force (and with the use of kyber crystals, if you get into the expanded universe) that he would actually telepathically influence the minds of the clone troops that were all over the galaxy at a moment in time (using the Force to transcend space) and force them to kill the Jedi generals they were being lead by. This alternate story also supported Sidious's decision to eliminate the droid armies and instead to have a sentient one, one that he could manipulate and control using the Force, whereas with droids he could do nothing which wouldn't have appealed to him. This alternate theory would have also been supported when reading the Thrawn trilogy, when Thrawn explains to his second-in-command, Captain Pellaeon, that the reason for the Empire's defeat at Endor was mostly due to the death of Sidious. Without his presence to boost the morale and coordination of the Imperials thru the Force, the Rebels were able to destroy The Executor and other Star Destroyers and send the Imperials scrambling.

I thought that version of the execution of Order 66 was a lot more interesting then Sidious just sending an order to clone commanders from his office (lol). It would have also reminded us that Sidious was "clouding the vision" of the Jedi and also influencing and controlling the weak-minded Senators thru the Force. I always liked that version too because it showed the audience that Palpatine was manipulative, conniving, and power hungry and he was REALLY good at it, the best at it. That was where his true strength really was, manipulation and control, not in combat so much (as shown by Mace Windu and Yoda). He worked from the shadows to bring the Republic and the galaxy to his mercy and brought that structure crumbling down around the Jedi until there was nothing they could do to stop it. It was also the reason he needed Vader to be his errand boy, Sidious works behind-the-scenes and he needed a lapdog for the more "hands on" work, someone to dispatch his enemies and the strong-minded people he couldn't control thru the Force.

NL_Sudentor
03-04-2008, 04:53 PM
In my opinion, the execution of order 66 was really really bad. The clones could have done it without any losses and even Yoda and Obi One could have been killed.

Take Ki Adi Mundu. The clones get Order 66 and what do they do? They go stand behind him and reload, one by one. I mean, wtf? They could have reloaded a long time before and if they had to reload now, reload together, not one after the other... even a gungan could have taken some clones with him now...

And what about obi-one? Instead of using a large group of snipers to take him down and some heavy troopers with bazookas to fisnih it, COdy decides to take ONE, SINGLE heavy trooper!!! Why? In the battle of Utapau there were THOUSANDS of clones...

Yoda at last. A clone trooper walks toward a Scout Trooper to tell him "Let's kill Yoda". A Scout Trooper. He has a damn sniperrifle!!! And what do they doe? They walk towards Yoda and stop one meter behind him...


Why did it sucked, it doesn't matter if the one that was trying to kill yoda was a scout if you say he was standing one metre from him.
And remeber on utapau the were still battling the separatists. And if your canon is so accurate why use something else, and also don't forget that snipers shoot on targets that move slowly or don't move.

That beast from obi did ran very fast he.
And i never have seen one heavy trooper from the clones!!

And you are right with ki adi mundi's death, they could have reloaded all together, but it makes that scene more attractive when there is a little evading of the lasers to make the jedi don't look to weak.
(this was already a scene on felucia whit that blue jedi woman thing)
i don't know her name right now.


I agree, it could have been better but it certainly doesn't suck

hellhawk
03-19-2008, 12:33 AM
wait wait... rember in episode 2 were mace askes yoda... shall we tell the senate our ability to sense has become usless? that may contribute!

Sir Phobos
04-06-2008, 02:26 AM
Take Ki Adi Mundu. The clones get Order 66 and what do they do? They go stand behind him and reload, one by one. I mean, wtf? They could have reloaded a long time before and if they had to reload now, reload together, not one after the other... even a gungan could have taken some clones with him now...

Well they finished the job right? Sure Mundi was able to waste a clone or two but it could have been way worse for them.

And what about obi-one? Instead of using a large group of snipers to take him down and some heavy troopers with bazookas to fisnih it, COdy decides to take ONE, SINGLE heavy trooper!!! Why? In the battle of Utapau there were THOUSANDS of clones...

Well a single heavy trooper has a lot of firepower. Obi should have been dead and even though it wasn't confirmed on the Clones side, they still marched around forever trying to find him. To put it simply, Obi Wan had to tuck his tail and run.

Yoda at last. A clone trooper walks toward a Scout Trooper to tell him "Let's kill Yoda". A Scout Trooper. He has a damn sniperrifle!!! And what do they doe? They walk towards Yoda and stop one meter behind him...

You have a point here but Order 66 was largely successful save for Vader's injuries and Obi Wan/Yoda escaping. All key plot points.

Darth Macca
04-06-2008, 10:08 AM
In my opinion, the execution of order 66 was really really bad. The clones could have done it without any losses and even Yoda and Obi One could have been killed.

Take Ki Adi Mundu. The clones get Order 66 and what do they do? They go stand behind him and reload, one by one. I mean, wtf? They could have reloaded a long time before and if they had to reload now, reload together, not one after the other... even a gungan could have taken some clones with him now...

And what about obi-one? Instead of using a large group of snipers to take him down and some heavy troopers with bazookas to fisnih it, COdy decides to take ONE, SINGLE heavy trooper!!! Why? In the battle of Utapau there were THOUSANDS of clones...

Yoda at last. A clone trooper walks toward a Scout Trooper to tell him "Let's kill Yoda". A Scout Trooper. He has a damn sniperrifle!!! And what do they doe? They walk towards Yoda and stop one meter behind him...
Yes, and what are the chances of Anakin attempting to leap over Obi-Wan's head to gain the "high-ground"? What are the chances of Darth Maul simply standing, motionless, after Obi-Wan had leaped over his head? What are the chances of Anakin having a bad dream about Padme? What are the chances of Palpatine being elected as Supreme Chancellor after the dissolution of Chancellor Valorum? What are the chances of Grievous opting to fight Obi-Wan alone, after jumping down in front of a massacre of droids?

Jesus Christ; just try to enjoy the film for what it is, as opposed to sitting at a computer dissecting it, shot-for-shot.

Druganator
06-12-2008, 03:21 PM
did anyone notice that the Mandalorians were enemies of the republic for thousands of years if not longer (the taungs were grey skinned rivals of the humans at Coruscaunt and they fought each other but the humans won and kicked out the taungs) and jedi master Sifo-Dias managed to make them the army of the republic? isnt that a bit weird to take one of their longest enemies and make them the face of your army?

Serpentine Cougar
06-14-2008, 12:08 AM
Never really thought of it like that, I guess. Well, there's irony for you.

M@RS
06-14-2008, 01:08 AM
Well, Mandolorians are mercenaries so they work for the highest bidder...

Rev7
06-14-2008, 01:33 AM
They weren't nescisarily mercenaries. ;)

Astor
06-14-2008, 10:40 AM
Yeah, the Mandalorians, as a whole, aren't mercenaries. Sure, most of them do end working as mercenaries, but the first duty of most Mandalorians has always been to their people, and ultimately the Mandalore.

The mercenary side is just a popular perception, one that they have often managed to use to their advantage. I mean, they're just simple mercenaries, aren't they?

TKA-001
06-14-2008, 11:14 AM
Correction: The mercenary side was the truth, and the "Code of Honor" βμΓΓΣhiτ was the perception, until Karen Travesty bulldozed the idea and decided to turn them into great, misunderstood knights in shining armor of great honor and justice (this subsequently ruined the characters of both Jango and Boba Fett, incidentally).

M@RS
06-14-2008, 12:21 PM
Thank you, I needed someone else to agree with me...

Jayce76
10-23-2009, 07:53 PM
Vos? I can't remember seeing him die in the movie...


He actually died in a cut scene from the movie. Now he is rumored to be in the live action series coming in a year or two . . .

Ztalker
10-24-2009, 03:57 PM
He actually died in a cut scene from the movie. Now he is rumored to be in the live action series coming in a year or two . . .

...damned necromancers...

Jayce76
10-25-2009, 04:12 PM
Guess that means we won't ever be seeing that particular scene back in the motion picture. Well that's Okay , might work out even better in the long run. If he is on the show , I do look foward too seeing'em. Right now , nobodies even sure what the Damm thing's about?

Gerevick
05-09-2012, 11:35 AM
The rather quick and seamless exection of Order 66 was satisfying at the same time it was rather disappointing. The Jedi did not put up much of a fight. Even though they were outnumbered and taken by surprise, they could have made a better effort. Yoda did. Why did the others not?

Alexrd
05-09-2012, 12:14 PM
Time constraints.

Mandalore5
05-09-2012, 12:50 PM
And on the side of Ki-Adi Mundi, they were the Galactic Marines he was facing. They're the best in the Republic, and are far, far better than the average clone.

Also, the commanders and commandos were in fact given greater independence of thought, so Cody may have been acting on his friendship with Obi-wan. Though that raises the question of why Bly so mindlessly killled Aayla Secura, seeing as virtually every clone on Felucia held her in their highest, utmost respect.

Tyler Hartman
08-16-2012, 12:05 PM
If i were have been able to give order 66 i would have sent snipers to stay at a reasonable distance hidden on a perch and my highest Sith trained strongly with the force and lightsabers to dispatch Yoda and Obi-Wan. Not just clones. But whats been done has been done.