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IG-64
04-16-2007, 01:27 PM
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/16/us/16cnd-shooting.html?hp


This shooting surpasses Columbine with 22 deaths (including the gunman). It is sad that this kind of thing is so common in schools.

My prayers and condolences go out to the families.

JKLE_Cougar
04-16-2007, 01:51 PM
wow this is horrible

Rogue15
04-16-2007, 01:56 PM
that really really really sucks. it'll probably have an impact on the right to bear arms amendment......:( damn people

IG-64
04-16-2007, 02:08 PM
that really really really sucks. it'll probably have an impact on the right to bear arms amendment......:( damn people
I think that if that is changed, it'll come down to specific restrictions particular to schools and other public places. I doubt there would be a fundamental change to the second amendment though.

acdcfanbill
04-16-2007, 02:24 PM
You realize that guns were already banned on that university campus.

Perhaps if the school hadn't stripped those adults of their state approved right to conceal carry the carnage could have been stopped earlier.

swphreak
04-16-2007, 03:21 PM
As a former Hokie, holy crap. It's pretty disturbing that I would still be in Blacksburg if I hadn't changed my major.

According to NYTimes (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/16/us/16cnd-shooting.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin), there was a 911 about a shooting in a dorm (Ambler Johnson Hall) and then hours later, the gunman ends up dead in Norris Hall. Those two buildings are t completely opposite ends of the campus, and it's a good walk to get between the two.

I can't believe one guy with a gun caused such a mass panic.


The VT website is getting hit hard.


And my local newspaper just called not 10 seconds after I clicked submit. The guy was calling people in my area who went to VT.

Jeff
04-16-2007, 03:56 PM
I was very sad to hear the news earlier. Its a scary thing.

DarthAve
04-16-2007, 04:25 PM
I got really scared when I first found out about it, because I have a cousin who goes to some tech college in Virginia, luckilly he doesn't go to Virgina Tech, but still HOLY SH*T.

I was watching CNN with my mom and a student there was telling about a girl who was in one of the classrooms, and that she had to play dead to survive, she was one of the 4 to get out of the classroom. they showed the cell phone video and everything. Now I'm really scared of going to college.

Samnmax221
04-16-2007, 04:29 PM
Just saw it when I started my browser, damnit.

tk102
04-16-2007, 04:29 PM
they showed the cell phone video and everything. Now I'm really scared of going to college.

I can sympathize with that fear, especially since the video is fresh in your mind. It was a sad and senseless tragedy, but don't be afraid of going to college. Most people think of college as some of the best times in their lives. It really is something to look forward to, I promise. :)

Nalukai
04-16-2007, 04:53 PM
the count is 32 now including the gunman... pussy shot himself after he killed all those innocent ppl.... my sympathy to all the families invovled in that horrible occurance.

Mace MacLeod
04-16-2007, 04:58 PM
You realize that guns were already banned on that university campus.

Perhaps if the school hadn't stripped those adults of their state approved right to conceal carry the carnage could have been stopped earlier.And if the way to reduce shootings of this sort really was more guns, the US would already be the safest place on the planet. You want the Right to Bear Arms? This is the price you pay for it.

My condolences to the families.

jebbers
04-16-2007, 05:13 PM
Not to be callous or soul-less.

But am I the only one not really shocked at these shootings? It's a terrible thing to happen but I'm not that surprised anymore.

Rogue15
04-16-2007, 05:29 PM
i know how you feel jebbers....it's just like the anna media buffet....i heard it once, i don't care and don't care to watch the news to discover what "REALLY WENT DOWN", etc. good thing the guy shot himself, now i don't have to hear about the ****ing trial every time i channel surf.

RoxStar
04-16-2007, 05:39 PM
This is so horrible. I can't even comprehend it right now.

I have heard that he was carrying two automatic weapons. Am I correct in this knowledge?

If so, this is just a stronger argument for much stricter policies against automatic weapons.

EDIT: This is in reference to the question on the second amendment.

Rogue15
04-16-2007, 06:11 PM
no everybody should be REQUIRED to carry them on their person at all times.

tk102
04-16-2007, 06:19 PM
^^^
Yes. Perhaps we should also introduce a Nuclear Proliferation Act so that all countries will be required to have nukes too.

MrWally
04-16-2007, 06:32 PM
To my knowledge he had two 9 mm semi-automatic weapons.

The question is...

WHY CAN PEOPLE BUY THOSE GUNS?!

You don't need them to hunt, you definitely don't need a gun like that for "protection"... they're meant to kill. Meant to kill very easily... as we all can now see.

Why should ANYONE, adult or not, be able to buy guns like those?

BongoBob
04-16-2007, 06:41 PM
*starts countdown til Jack Thompson/Hilary Clinton blames this on games*

Sad. Just sad.

My condolences to the families. Anyone know if any Swampies go to Virginia Tech?

Btw, I didn't learn about this until about 2 or 3 hours ago, in my government class.

Commander Obi-Wan
04-16-2007, 06:58 PM
I, too, send my condolences to those families who had students attending the college.

acdcfanbill
04-16-2007, 07:04 PM
*starts countdown til Jack Thompson/Hilary Clinton blames this on games*

you can stop counting, Jack Thompson is already out in force.

UDM
04-16-2007, 07:10 PM
Damn...

I agree with you though jebbers, it's a very sad tragedy, but I don't think it's going to go down in history books. Those who lost their lives should be mourned for, but frankly speaking the most we can hope for is that casualties in similar future incidents will be minimal

IMHO it's the way society's formed that create social misfits. Unless people become saints and samaritans overnight, what's to stop faculty shootings from recurring? Nonetheless, let's hope that officials and state leaders take heed of these lessons, and realise that here, lightning may strike twice, thrice, 'quadrupice' and so on, and make pay greater attention to lessen the frequencies and aftermaths of such disasters

Well, it's not like any of the deceased's family will be reading this, but nonetheless, my deepest condolences to them...

DarthAve
04-16-2007, 08:17 PM
Btw, I didn't learn about this until about 2 or 3 hours ago, in my government class.
At least they tell you this stuff in school. A few weeks ago we went on lockdown for about a half hour after school and they didn't tell us a thing. And they knew somthing, cause the radio stations were broadcasting news on the busride home.

TiE23
04-16-2007, 08:56 PM
Jack Thompson, showing that he's an idiot more and more every day.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/virginia-tech/breaking-idiot-thompson-blames-va-shooting-on-games-252702.php

Nalukai
04-16-2007, 10:02 PM
he was obviously playing Halo right before he shot everyone cuz of the dual wield machine guns... sigh... screw jack tompson.

BongoBob
04-16-2007, 10:14 PM
I love the fact that he claimed to have information back before even the police knew, before it was a record death toll.

God, please smite Jack Thompson where he stands.

TK-8252
04-16-2007, 11:11 PM
I'm going to disregard the Jack Thompson idiocy for now, because he's not worth responding to. All I can say is... **** Fox News.

I live in Virginia, and while I don't have any friends or family in Virginia Tech, this shooting has affected many people in my area. It's shocking that such a shooting would happen, today, in such a senseless and brutal way.

The thing, however, I worry about most, is the action that our government might attempt to make as a knee-jerk reaction to such a tragedy. The only defense against such a shooting is to have a more competent police force, and perhaps a more effective security staff on campus.

Passing laws that curb our Constitutional rights will NOT help make us any safer... if anything, that kind of thing would only make us LESS safe. Ban all the guns you want, but all that means is that the only people besides law enforcement who have guns... would be the criminals. Law-abiding citizens would now be helpless to defend themselves against a gunman, while criminals continue to use illegal firearms. Banning something only works in favor of the black market and its underground dealers who will then make a huge profit off of selling handguns to people who will now use the weapon without proper training.

It works the same way as drug and alcohol prohibition. Banning something doesn't make it go away. It only makes it more dangerous than it already was.

Nalukai
04-17-2007, 12:05 AM
could not have said it better.

Lightsaberboy
04-17-2007, 01:42 PM
the related stories in this are kinda ridiculous.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/lightsaberboy/shooting.jpg

RoxStar
04-17-2007, 06:18 PM
Thompson was on MSBC at 6:30 my local time. I thought it was rather funny, considering half the country was still sleeping.

TiE23
04-17-2007, 09:24 PM
I wouldn't go to 4chan for a little bit... He was a /b/tard apparently...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Tie23/1176858008764xz4.jpg

http://www.thestar.com/StarPM/article/204030

Samnmax221
04-17-2007, 09:39 PM
I wouldn't go to 4chan for a little bit... He was a /b/tard apparently...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Tie23/1176858008764xz4.jpg
Its been shooped.

MrWally
04-17-2007, 09:49 PM
I really hope that's fake.

BongoBob
04-17-2007, 09:52 PM
Been shooped, but I do applaud the Vtec just kicked in yo refrence/pun.

Plus what it said he posted on that link TiE gave was completely different.

Rogue15
04-18-2007, 01:26 AM
after reading on wiki about the shooter, i kinda feel sad that there are people that have to go through life like that. :( i also feel sad for that kid's parents who are probably going to be tormented by the media. and wtf does this have to do with video games? according to what i read, the kid spent alot of time playing basketball.

IG-64
04-18-2007, 02:01 AM
after reading on wiki about the shooter, i kinda feel sad that there are people that have to go through life like that. :(
Yeah, every time something like this happens, I try and be open-minded and consider the shooter as a person.

And then I think Boo. F***ing. Hoo.

Consider this: John of the Cross was a 16th century Spanish mystic. He was isolated in a cell too small for him to stand up in and subjected to weekly public lashings, for nine months. What happened to him after this? He became a saint and wrote massive poems.

Cho Seung-hui, however, ended the lives of 32 innocent people, including a 75-year-old holocaust survivor. It doesn't matter how much torture or neglect he endured, he deserves no sympathy from me.

BongoBob
04-18-2007, 02:13 AM
after reading on wiki about the shooter, i kinda feel sad that there are people that have to go through life like that. :( i also feel sad for that kid's parents who are probably going to be tormented by the media.

I don't know about you, but I feel bad about the victims and the victim's parents a little bit more than him. Yes it sucks he had a troubled upbringing, supposedly being molested, but get the f*** over it. Only you can prevent forestfires change your life. So you had a troubled past. Get over it. Do something to make your life better, and to make sure others don't have to go through whatever it is you went through. If he had come out saying he was molested or something, people would have felt sorry for him, and tried to help him. Instead he kills 32 innocent people. People that had done nothing wrong, nothing to deserve death.

Rogue15
04-18-2007, 02:28 AM
honestly though, hating doesn't do any good.

BongoBob
04-18-2007, 03:17 AM
Neither does taking some guns and commiting a massacre. Let's be honest. There simply is no good here.

Also, I'm not attacking you Rouge. I'm simply putting in my two cents.