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Paragon_Leon
08-03-2001, 04:53 PM
This thread is for asking questions (and getting answers of course) about the AOK-engine, so newcomers will be brought up to speed about the basic workings of the engine...

Ten-Forward
08-03-2001, 05:02 PM
Will the Zone host multiplayer like AOK?

Tie Guy
08-03-2001, 05:31 PM
I'm sure it will if it did in AOK.

Compa_Mighty
08-03-2001, 07:53 PM
Yes it will

Darth_Rommel
08-03-2001, 09:48 PM
It definatly (sp) will ;)

Paragon_Leon
08-04-2001, 11:04 AM
(**clears throat**)
ahem.
Are there questions about the AOK-engine ?

T.I.E
08-04-2001, 11:55 AM
Alright Paragon here is a question for you, by the way I love the pic you sent me.

Anyways why the heck is it when I start a random map on AOK, and put several computer fodders in too they all gang up on me from the start. Its like they automatically ally with each other and attack at the same time EVERYTIME!

Now to stop this little game they play I set each nation to its own seperate team number so everyone has a team persay.

Am I doing something wrong, and I hope BG is not going to be like that, I want a free for all without haveing to make different teams.

Paragon_Leon
08-04-2001, 12:00 PM
Computers will generally gang up on you over time, because they offer alliances to each other right at the start..
Even when you divide them in teams, this will happen.
The only way to prevent it, is to put them in separate teams (say: you are team 1, they are all another team) and then click on the 'Lock teams' button on the game-setup screen before you start the game. Then they can't gang up anymore.

Glad you like the pic.

T.I.E
08-04-2001, 12:04 PM
What I do is set me as 1,
another as 2
another 3
another 4

and then lock teams, they attack and battle each other as well, but I would like to have the chance of an alliance or truce.

T.I.E
08-04-2001, 12:06 PM
Why do they call them "random" maps when they really are not random? I mean you can pick a "type" of map and thats about it but other than dropping nations and resourcesit is the same as the type. Or am I wrong?

T.I.E
08-04-2001, 12:08 PM
The reason I am asking all these questions is I am trying to play my conq edition but someone in my household scratched my CD so I am going to have to play AOK not conq. I want to get back into the quick click of the game but these questions pretty much made me toss the games into a drawer for several months.

Paragon_Leon
08-04-2001, 12:09 PM
A 'random' map simply means that the computer generates terrain and resources in a random order.

Looks like you handle the Lock Teams part well. The thing is, with that done, you can't have an alliance because they are on another team. Sometimes computer players look at the score of a player and then suddenly decide they won't team up with him after all. There is a certain logic behind it, but the AI in AOK isn't so advanced that you could manipulate them like that..

T.I.E
08-04-2001, 12:12 PM
Thats alright I guess because my "allies" never help me anyways except in conq edition. I usually "punish" them too for not sending troops or "food please".

Tie Guy
08-04-2001, 06:56 PM
If you wanted an alliance couldn't you just set up a 2v2 game, and put one of them on your team?

darthfergie
08-04-2001, 07:37 PM
...And Then kill them latter on when you don't need them... Oh sorry went too far...

Tie Guy
08-04-2001, 08:23 PM
No you didn't, there is nothing wrong with that. It's a great strategy, very effective, and relatively safe :D

darthfergie
08-04-2001, 08:55 PM
Safe until they start counter attacking. Which never happens for me because I build Structures and put units all though their base.

Tie Guy
08-04-2001, 09:19 PM
Hehe, i'll have to try that with AOK soon, rather than just RA2.

T.I.E
08-04-2001, 10:21 PM
There can only be one supreme ruler of the world right? So its a given to make your allies fall because they were too weak to see you as an enemy.

Kvan
08-04-2001, 10:27 PM
Originally posted by T.I.E
There can only be one supreme ruler of the world right? So its a given to make your allies fall because they were too weak to see you as an enemy.
Well said! :)
BTW What kind of pics are you sending Leon?! T.I.E sure sounded happy to get it ;)
I like the topic of your thread, I'll try and not stray from the subject too much :D

T.I.E
08-04-2001, 10:33 PM
hehehehehe

Lord JayVizIon
08-05-2001, 12:14 AM
...And Then kill them latter on when you don't need them... Oh sorry went too far...

hehe, i got nailed that way too when my friend built towers (warcraft) in my area to supposedly help fend off the computer groups. when they all died, he turned off his alliance with me and the next thing you know i had on villagers......

Darth_Rommel
08-05-2001, 12:18 AM
Yeah, that sucks. I always stay true to my alliance, until the end of course :evil1:

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 12:22 AM
You REALLY have to watch that. My friend was playing starcraft with some members of a clan (which he knew nothing about) at the start of the game the 3 veteran that were on his side changed sides and needless to say blew him out of the water.
:explode:

Paragon_Leon
08-05-2001, 08:35 AM
Kvan,

I gave T.I.E. his avatar.. you wanna change yours from a Buffy-like thing to Star Wars too ? :D :D :D

Anyone got other questions about the ENGINE ? ;)