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Sabretooth
06-04-2007, 01:56 AM
Who else is rooting for Fallout 3? I'm thinking it's gonna be one hell of an awesome game, especially since Bethesda is developing it. Check out the concept art at the game's site (http://fallout.bethsoft.com/) . It's looking awesome.

I've played Fallout 1 and 2, but never completed them, I'm afraid. They were real fun games, but I just got bored with them because they were really old. Still, it was awesome to play an RPG in semi-modern/sci-fi setting.

The game's site says that the teaser will be out tomorrow. I'm starting to wet my pants here.

Quanon
06-04-2007, 12:21 PM
AH , great news :)

Have Fallout 2 but never got very far into the game ; but I like the setting of the game .

Reminds me of Mad Max :D !!!! Yeah can't wait to see some actual in-game shots.

Ghost Down
06-04-2007, 01:16 PM
Let's hope that it ain't gonna be an Oblivion clone..

- Ghost Down

Arátoeldar
06-04-2007, 06:57 PM
Let's hope that it ain't gonna be an Oblivion clone..

- Ghost Down

That is exactly what I am a afraid it will be. After reading what the developers have stated. For one thing they have stated that the game will no longer carry the M rating. Instead they are going for a T rating so as sell more games on the consoles. The fact they they are even making this game for the Xbox360 highly irritates me. They have already said they won't do the game in the isometric view. Which is ok if they went with the style used in NWN2 but that won't happen either. :mad::(

Lantzen
06-06-2007, 12:27 PM
From what i have read, there will be Mature Rating. And a trailer is up on the official page. War. War never changes.

Sabretooth
06-07-2007, 02:12 AM
The teaser is rather disappointing. I was hoping to see more of the Fallout world. :( Well, atleast the whole thing seems to be in the same world of Fallout 1 and 2. I hope the reveal more details soon...

Lantzen
06-07-2007, 07:30 AM
I liked the teaser, and thats really the only real info about the game that it is, the teaser is also made by the game engine Fallout3 will use. Now when they have gave us the teaser they will probaly start to give us some more info

tk102
09-04-2007, 08:26 PM
I see the release date set for Sept 9, 2008, ten years since the release of Fallout 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout_2).

Gametap recently posted an interview (http://www.gametap.com/home/read/article/8a25090114bc79790114bd403ea50dc8) with the F3's lead designer Emil Pagliarulo. Enjoy!

Sabretooth
09-05-2007, 02:34 AM
Man, 10 years. Bethesda better not screw this up. Fallout is the one series of games where a game can be either really awesome or crap.

Lantzen
09-05-2007, 10:48 AM
Sadly the more i read of the game, the more i reliease how much Betheseda will screw it up. It will maybe be a good game, but It won't be a true Fallout game.

Like taking some exampels, and this is just some of the things in a long line

There wont be any negative effects, and you can get addictive to drugs. But they will still have drugs like Jet in the game... Half the story line of New Reno/Reddings is how bad effect the Jet drug have on people and how addictive it is, and now they just throw that away. Great job

There won't be any prostitute, or anythings like that. This also effected the story line in the earlier ones, how hard is it to have a fade to black screen like in Fable and some other games ?

And the last thing im gonna write, no child killing, but there will be children in the game, wtf ? So we will have imortal children running around ?

Like i said, this is just some of the thing the change and for some people it maybe ain't a problem that they take some of theses things away, but i think it is. It's the details in the earlier Fallout games that make them so great, that i still do a rerun on them from time to time

stoffe
09-05-2007, 11:12 AM
Like i said, this is just some of the thing the change and for some people it maybe ain't a problem that they take some of theses things away, but i think it is. It's the details in the earlier Fallout games that make them so great, that i still do a rerun on them from time to time

Seems like game developers have to be a lot more careful what they put in their games nowadays compared to 10 years ago. Sexual themes, drugs and violence against children and the like is something they apparently need to tip-toe around. (Like how Bethesda had to censor the content of some in-game books in Morrowind from their original version in earlier TES games :)) Curiously some other fairly nasty themes are apparently OK though (like excessive blood and gore in some action games, the Dark Brotherhood quest line in Oblivion etc)

I guess this comes from games being more in the spotlight nowadays, being credited by some as the source of all evils in western society (even though you can usually see much worse than what most games contain every day on TV in your average thriller/drama/action movie).

stingerhs
09-05-2007, 11:14 AM
^^^^
sounds to me like your nitpicking at the really fine details. unless the devs are going to significantly alter the gameplay (which might occur), then i can understand getting a bit concerned. otherwise, messing with the fine details isn't going to make a really major difference on anything. ;)

as for me, this is one game that i'm really looking forward to, and i'm glad that the release date isn't set till next year. this year's fall lineup is way too crowded. :)

Lantzen
09-05-2007, 12:48 PM
So changing the hole battlesystem aint significantly alter the gameplay ? :)
And like i said, IMO and i know many more that think this, is the details that makes the game.

And stoffe i agree it's really weird, if you do a Computer Game Vs TV/Movies, things that don't make you raise a eyebrow if it's on TV, start so big debates if the same things happens in a game.

I really don't think Betheseda is in lack of better words, matured enough to do a sequence to the Fallout serie. It would have been another thing if they just setted the game in the Fallout universe like BoS is, just that little thing makes a huge diffrente, But by naming it Fallout 3, they set a bar.


And one more thing, they have been releasing "Inside the Vault" interviews with some of the members, and like half of them havent played the earlier Fallout games, some did it after they started to work with Fallout3 :/

Sabretooth
09-05-2007, 02:23 PM
Actually, one of the things that appealed to me when I played the first two Fallouts was the grim sarcasm that lay just beneath the surface. Even when the game tried to be serious, you could just sense a dark, disturbed joke underneath it all.

Fallout was also artistically impressive because it melded the post-apocalyptic and post-WW2/Cold War genres together with the right dose of reality. I mean, prostitutes, drugs, booze, killing - it's just there in reality. The problem is that games have made it to mainstream entertainment and now they don't want any of that here.

If you ask me, it is with this flavour alone that a Fallout game can be made. You really aren't making Fallout if you don't have the black comedy, the very Fallout-ness present in the earlier games. Bethesda is taking a big risk and the more I learn about this game, the more a sinking feeling appears in my heart.

Pavlos
04-10-2008, 12:37 PM
*blows off dust*

Source (http://fallout3.wordpress.com/2008/04/07/fallout-3-the-new-pictures-at-pcgamesde/)

We have some new pictures of Fallout 3 out. I'm quite impressed with Bethesda's art direction, even if I'm not that fond of their use of lighting. Maybe it's just me but this shot (http://fallout3.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/fallout10.jpg) seems to miss out on the perfect opportunity to use some pretty intense shadows. Instead, all we have are bloom effects.

I love this one (http://fallout3.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/fallout12.jpg). A birthday party in a dank, metallic vault, the people aren't even enjoying themselves. Taking the picture of idyllic 1950s America and twisting it. Fallout at its best.

Sabretooth
04-10-2008, 01:03 PM
The reason might be that these are still early development builds, but the graphics don't really look very impressive to me, honestly - they are a far cry for current standards like say, Mass Effect or Assassin's Creed (I'm not mentioning Crysis here, because the game requires a NASA supercomputer to run or something).

The Source
04-12-2008, 12:40 PM
My opinion only: I didn't buy FallOut until it was released for $10.00. After it was released into the budget software section in Wall-Mart, I decided to give the game a shot. Truthfully, I was not very impressed. I couldn't really get into the game. I consider "FallOut" as one of those series, which you buy when you have a few bucks to throw away. I have deep respect for cult fans, and I think "FallOut" most likely does have a selective group. If I had to place it into a game hirearchy (of what I consider purchase worthy games), I would have to place it some where bellow "Monopoly" or "Jeopardy". No offense to the fan base, but I personally believe there are games more worthy of purchase.

I do respect the cult following though. Since I'm one of those Duke Nukem and Doom fans, I can respect why someone would like this game. I just have different tastes.

Lantzen
04-12-2008, 08:15 PM
And what does that have to do with Fallout 3 ?

The Source
04-15-2008, 11:59 AM
And what does that have to do with Fallout 3 ?
When I read the article on "StarWarsKnights.com", the tittle for the forums said, "FallOut 3: Like it or dislike it? Tell us!". So, I replied.

Lantzen
04-15-2008, 12:19 PM
Yeah, but you above post have nothing to do with Fallout3, you only talking about the earlier games. And thats just to bash it, you don't say why you didn't like the game except you coulden't get into it. And thats very vague

tk102
04-15-2008, 12:42 PM
[the graphics] are a far cry for current standards like say, Mass Effect or Assassin's Creed (I'm not mentioning Crysis here, because the game requires a NASA supercomputer to run or something).

No, they are a far cry from the Fallout and Fallout 2. :D I think there some of us who can still enjoy a low-res game like Fallout and Fallout 2 who won't mind (in fact prefer) if FO3 wasn't on bleeding edge of graphical madness as long as the dialogs and music pull off the ambiance of its predecessors. Bethesda already owes me one graphics card for Oblivion. :xp:

Edit: It's a big set of shoes to step into. FO and FO2 had what seemed to be just the right ratio of abstraction and realism to put the player in the setting. Since FO3 will be much more graphically intense, there will be fewer gaps for the player's imagination to fill. The designers will have that much harder of a job to recreate the Fallout world and mood.

Lord of Banthas
04-15-2008, 10:47 PM
No, they are a far cry from the Fallout and Fallout 2. :D I think there some of us who can still enjoy a low-res game like Fallout and Fallout 2 who won't mind (in fact prefer) if FO3 wasn't on bleeding edge of graphical madness as long as the dialogs and music pull off the ambiance of its predecessors. Bethesda already owes me one graphics card for Oblivion. :xp:

Sadly, that group of people is rapidly diminishing as good old fashioned storytelling, character development and gameplay are replaced by shiny graphics and bloom. Lots and lots of bloom. My favorite computer game happens to be Arcanum, which was made by Troika, a now-defunct company which included several people from Black Isle Studios, the wonderful developers of Fallout. Guess what? It's an isometric 2D game, and I still play it regularly and enjoy it immensely. In fact, I believe many RPGs would actually benefit from "weaker" graphics, leaving room for imagination and focusing more on story.

People nowadays forget what an RPG is. Anything with stat points and XP gains is called an RPG. It doesn't matter if it's completely linear and there's virtually no choice, it's a role-playing game. Never mind the actual "playing a role" part, we'll gladly trade that for high-poly models and HDR. That or multiple endings. There's another thing that pisses me off. You can have an entire game that is completely linear except for having a few choices at the very end (I'm thinking of something like Dark Messiah here) and all of a sudden, it's an RPG. Not that Dark Messiah is a bad game, I actually enjoyed it a lot, it's just not an RPG. Of course, under this whole "let's call everything an RPG" craze which stems from the old days of Diablo (also a good game), Dark Messiah is an RPG, and one that offers you plenty of choices, I mean, you actually have a skill tree! :rolleyes:

I apologize for going so out of topic, but this is just one of those things that really gets me riled up. So, getting back on track: Fallout 3, possibly a good game, horrible Fallout sequel. I cringe whenever I read a Bethesda interview about F3. The amount of ridiculous changes they make for no reason than to appeal to a completely different crowd than the first two games (which are the only real Fallout games made so far, BoS and Tactics don't count) is overwhelming. So that's one game I'm REALLY not looking forward to. Also, I should mention I feel Oblivion is a sorry excuse of a game, and I bought it having believed Bethesda's wild and completely unfounded claims about the game, the greatest example of which is the (not so) Radiant AI, so please excuse me for not getting my hopes up.

Pavlos
04-16-2008, 09:47 AM
So, getting back on track: Fallout 3, possibly a good game, horrible Fallout sequel. I cringe whenever I read a Bethesda interview about F3.
This basically sums up my feelings toward Fallout 3. Although, I honestly don't think that Arcanum matches up to Torment or Fallout 2 but that's for another topic :).

Lantzen
04-16-2008, 04:45 PM
Like i wise man sayed on another fourm im a member off ^^ *Rought translation* I long for this game like hell, but the Fallout-fanboy inside of me weep bloods evrytime i read a preview

Pavlos
04-25-2008, 01:03 PM
I often feel I'll shouting these things into a dark, mauve void.

Anyway, Eurogamer has uploaded a preview of Fallout 3 for your enjoyment. (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=134466)

Worryingly, as so many things seem to be with Bethesda's treatment of the Fallout franchise, they seem to have left Eurogamer with the impression that this is Oblivion... only when you shoot cars, they set off nuclear explosions. Why Bethesda is making "the next logical step on from Oblivion" and not the next logical step on from Fallout is beyond me but that seems to be what they're doing.

Hope for Fallout fans, however, hasn't remained trapped in the Pandora's Box that is the story of the licence's purchase by Bethesda. Hines, through the medium of Gillen (your friendly neighbourhood Eurogamer reporter), says, "The point is to show that we're a long way from the 'Yes, I'll help you'/'Yes, I'll help you for three pounds fifty and a cheeseburger'/'I WILL KILL YOU AND TAKE YOUR STUFF' conversation options with which most modern RPGs satisfy themselves." Although, being "a much more dense conversational game than Oblivion" is hardly the most taxing thing for a game developer to do.

How old must Dogmeat be by now, anyway?

Corinthian
04-25-2008, 01:16 PM
About in his sixties. Still, he could be a mutant dog. Super Mutants are supposedly immortal. I mean, not when they're getting Minigunned, but, you know.

I can see why they're taking the next step from Oblivion - they didn't work on Fallout. I doubt anyone from the original Fallout team is on their design team. Obsidian is currently working on other sequels to other people's work. Ironic, really. I wonder if Obsidian will make TES V. They'll probably not finish it or you'll die at the very ending of rocks falling...

Anyway, it makes sense that they're moving on, gameplay design wise, from an Oblivion base. I just hope they put some real effort into plot this time, and don't have enemies scaling. I want to get myself killed so bad I'm still aching from the beating I recieve hours later.

Lantzen
04-25-2008, 03:28 PM
Serious, that you need to take up rock falls evryone dies in your evry post start to become tiring, maybe you should use it as a signature if you want to whinne about it at evry chance you get ?

The enemy wont level with you, that was one of the first info they released way back. And i love that, some areas you are meant to die a gruseome death if you go there to early. And the bandits with the glass armours and stuff in Oblivion was just ridicouls, with that amount of money they could live a happy life not being a bandit :xp:

Yes, I'll help you'/'Yes, I'll help you for three pounds fifty and a cheeseburger'/'I WILL KILL YOU AND TAKE YOUR STUFF' conversation options with which most modern RPGs satisfy themselves" I wonder what RPG games he have played :confused: Just Oblivion ? Because most RPG games i played the last years have some more dialougs choises then that...

Corinthian
04-25-2008, 11:02 PM
Sorry, I just played NWN2 again - bored. EXTREMELY bored, and my copy of MOTB won't be here for another day at least. I cheated the whole way through, 50 to every stat and IT STILL TOOK FOREVER TO KILL THE BLOODY KING OF SHADOWS. Then, after that, to see that 'Nobody ever finds your squished bodies' thing frankly sticks in my craw. Combine that with the fairly rampant Obsidian Fanboys on this forum and I want to puke. Have to get the bile out some way or it'll burn it's way up and out, so I complain.

And, hey, in some games (TSL) you don't even get those options, it's "I'll give you five credits which will sign your death warrant because of the Feral Beggar Tribes down in Nar Shaddaa" or "I won't give you credits, causing you to go cry and then go berserk when someone attempts to console you and you tear his throat out and dine upon his corpse.

SpaceAlex
04-26-2008, 05:06 AM
Sorry, I just played NWN2 again - bored. EXTREMELY bored, and my copy of MOTB won't be here for another day at least. I cheated the whole way through, 50 to every stat and IT STILL TOOK FOREVER TO KILL THE BLOODY KING OF SHADOWS. Then, after that, to see that 'Nobody ever finds your squished bodies' thing frankly sticks in my craw. Combine that with the fairly rampant Obsidian Fanboys on this forum and I want to puke. Have to get the bile out some way or it'll burn it's way up and out, so I complain.

And, hey, in some games (TSL) you don't even get those options, it's "I'll give you five credits which will sign your death warrant because of the Feral Beggar Tribes down in Nar Shaddaa" or "I won't give you credits, causing you to go cry and then go berserk when someone attempts to console you and you tear his throat out and dine upon his corpse.

Do you have to complain about Obsidian games in every single thread? :rolleyes: Nobody really cares, mate. If you don't like their games, just don't play them. It's that easy.

Also, if someone likes Obsidian games, it doesn't automatically make him/her a fanboy. Obviously people will be pissed off if you make them look like idiots because they like OE games.

Achilles
04-26-2008, 05:18 AM
Do you have to complain about Obsidian games in every single thread? :rolleyes: Nobody really cares, mate. If you don't like their games, just don't play them. It's that easy.

Also, if someone likes Obsidian games, it doesn't automatically make him/her a fanboy. Obviously people will be pissed off if you make them look like idiots because they like OE games.User CP > Miscellaneous > Buddy/Ignore Lists > Ignore List

or just click on the name and look for the "Add ______ to Your Ignore List" link/button under "View Public Profile". I hope that helps.

SilentScope001
04-26-2008, 12:09 PM
Do you have to complain about Obsidian games in every single thread? :rolleyes: Nobody really cares, mate.

Well, um, I care.

But I do agree that the above posts/flames are so off-topic from discussing The Elder Scrolls: Fallout, so let get off that.

Pavlos
07-07-2008, 03:47 PM
Source (http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43207) und this (http://www.nma-fallout.com/)

The first Fallout 3 hands-on preview has been released in a Polish magazine, PSX Extreme, as well as PSM3 so pop out and buy either of them if you're a fan of the series or just have a masochistic desire to see more of your childhood raped and then cut up into little pieces with a rusty hatchet.

Bethesda seems to have a penchant for whimsical names; 'Bigtown' and 'Germantown' will stalk me in nightmares for decades to come. Whatever happened to the 'Café of Broken Dreams', eh?
The role of Charisma is lower than in previous games, Fallout 3 relies on combat much more than FO1 and FO2. However, we'll be able to use stealth throughout most of the game.

It's nice to know that stealth is often (if not always) an option but the reliance on combat over charisma seems to betray what Fallout excelled at and, to my knowledge, pioneered: dialogue options that are conditional on having points in a certain skill. If you remove that then the only thing that makes this game Fallout 3 is the impossibly devoted fan-base.

Pavlos
07-09-2008, 07:22 PM
Source (http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43266)

Both Kotaku (http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2008/07/its_official_fallout_3_refused_classification_in_a ustralia.html) and Joystiq (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/09/fallout-3-refused-classification-in-australia) are reporting that Fallout 3 has been refused classification down under.

This means that under Australian law it will be illegal for anyone to sell, buy, import, play or even look at the manual of Fallout 3. Presumably some one in the censor's office made a topless mod for Brotherhood of Steel members...

Arátoeldar
07-10-2008, 12:43 AM
Source (http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=43207) und this (http://www.nma-fallout.com/)

The first Fallout 3 hands-on preview has been released in a Polish magazine, PSX Extreme, as well as PSM3 so pop out and buy either of them if you're a fan of the series or just have a masochistic desire to see more of your childhood raped and then cut up into little pieces with a rusty hatchet.

Bethesda seems to have a penchant for whimsical names; 'Bigtown' and 'Germantown' will stalk me in nightmares for decades to come. Whatever happened to the 'Café of Broken Dreams', eh?

"The role of Charisma is lower than in previous games, Fallout 3 relies on combat much more than FO1 and FO2. However, we'll be able to use stealth throughout most of the game."

It's nice to know that stealth is often (if not always) an option but the reliance on combat over charisma seems to betray what Fallout excelled at and, to my knowledge, pioneered: dialogue options that are conditional on having points in a certain skill. If you remove that then the only thing that makes this game Fallout 3 is the impossibly devoted fan-base.

More & more it seems that Fallout 3 will be Oblivion with guns. :mad::(

Pavlos
07-12-2008, 07:55 AM
Source (http://www.nma-fallout.com/)

Perhaps in fear of being overshadowed by Dragon Age: Origins, Bethesda has decided to release a teaser trailer of their own (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36039.html) to show off Fallout 3's graphics.

I get a wonderful sense of déjŕ vu (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkBNKa2KXZE) when watching this but I'd imagine that's intentional on Bethesda's part.

The surreal image of a skeleton watching the television notwithstanding (I'm going to pretend that it's a humorous comment on the American attachment to the television, you can delude yourself too if you like), the game looks... astounding. Nice choice of music, as well, given that the place is entirely deserted.

Lantzen
07-14-2008, 09:50 PM
New trailer, and actualy gameplay is on gametrailers

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36238.html

Arátoeldar
07-15-2008, 11:02 PM
New trailer, and actualy gameplay is on gametrailers

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36238.html

The more I see the more I am convinced that Fallout 3 = Oblivion with guns. Heaven forbid they show some dialog or your PC interacting with a NPC. It's too slow for the ADHD button mashing console kiddies. :rolleyes::swear::headbump:

Kind of Spoilerish Preview

http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/fallout-3/preview/fallout-3-hands-on/a-20080714133932662026/g-20070327151320531089

Edit:Gamespot Fallout3 Preview (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/fallout3/news.html?sid=6193933&om_act=convert&om_clk=newlyadded&tag=newlyadded;title;1)

Miltiades
07-16-2008, 08:41 AM
Yup, haven't seen any dialog. Doesn't bode well for that aspect of the game. I think this is a game I won't view the reviews of, because you know they'll be enthusiastic and full of praise about it, like they were about Oblivion (which I didn't find that good at all).

Quanon
07-16-2008, 10:04 AM
Fallout 3 = Oblivion with guns. [/URL]

A First Person Shooter with stats and expirience gathering.

I'm not sure what to think about it, it does look nice and I think it could be a fun game.

I did enjoy Morrowind and its expansions plus dozens of mods. The exploring of the world and some fun missions somehow sucked me in.

Though storywize... uh... story or plot... lets hope they haven't forgot about that.

Arátoeldar
07-16-2008, 09:35 PM
E3 '08: Hands On With Fallout 3 (http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200807/N08.0716.0015.44513.htm?Page=1)

Lantzen
07-17-2008, 08:39 PM
I actualy wonder wtf are Enclave doing there in the gameplay video

Didn't you like blow there mainbase up in the end of Fallout2 ? :xp: Lazzy Betheseda that they can't find a new faction that is the threat and need to reuse the old enemys. First it was that mutants aint friendly anymore like in Fallout2 and now the Enclave.

Arátoeldar
07-18-2008, 03:10 PM
Any one else call the 1-888-4VAULT-TEC number from the Perfect Life trailer? :lol::xp:

Arátoeldar
07-24-2008, 03:03 PM
I guess my worst fears about the combat have been confirmed by the Sept PC Gamer preview. :firemad::(


I'm sure a lot of you have already read it, but I just skimmed through PC Gamer's preview of you guessed it--the PC version.

They had nothing but good things to say about it. They did reiterate what some of you guys have already said about how it pretty much functions as a FPS regardless of the incorporate of VATS. Sounds like this is one I'll be picking up after all.

patient_zero
07-26-2008, 08:28 PM
I'll admit I'm a little afraid of reading too much about Fallout 3 - all I know of the first two are the dazzling recommendations it's given by half the forum, and I'm definitely not an Oblivion fan.

But I did pre-order Fallout 3 while on an "it's free so why not?" pre-order spree a couple of weeks ago. And after watching the trailer and flicking through the gallery, I like the art style, though I'm hoping the game play will be more Mass Effect than Oblivion With Guns.

Though I guess Fallout 3 has a problem - it's the sequel to a highly acclaimed series, and though it may be adequate on it's own, it might not live up to the first two, in the same way I frown at KotOR 2 not for being bad but for having a different "feel" than KotOR 1.

Pavlos
07-27-2008, 06:28 AM
The issue is not that Fallout 3 has a different 'feel', to be honest. It's more that Bethesda have thrown away an awful lot of the gameplay mechanics that made the game what it was.

I don't know... maybe it's a bit of nostalgia on my part (although I played Fallout 2 again recently and still rank it as one of the best games of all time) but I just can't accept Bethesda's child into the Fallout family. It may say, "Fallout," on the box but it won't be Fallout :).

patient_zero
07-27-2008, 06:48 AM
I think I can understand that sentiment. Hell, I pretend most of the Spyro series doesn't exist because I don't like what happened to it after it changed developers.

Arátoeldar
08-18-2008, 11:52 AM
Enough with the Bioshock hoohaa cause we got a megaton. Bethesda held a demo in Taiwan and apparently our friends to the east are a little less respectful of the whole "no recording devices please" thing. Tons and tons of spoilery shots.

Link: UnderOne (http://www.cng4u.com/2008/08/16/fallout-3-scans/) (Google translation (http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cng4u.com%2F2008%2F08 %2F16%2Ffallout-3-scans%2F&hl=zh-CN&ie=UTF8&sl=zh-CN&tl=en))
Link: CatchPlay (http://www.catchplay.com/tw/?pg=games_news_item&id=3210) (Google translation (http://66.102.9.104/translate_c?hl=zh-CN&sl=zh-CN&tl=en&u=http://www.catchplay.com/tw/%3Fpg%3Dgames_news_item%26id%3D3210&usg=ALkJrhjGq-16IKfUgo9EwJAQEs2PFEcEVA))

From NMA


Something I saw on SA.

Arátoeldar
08-21-2008, 10:36 AM
Tuesday, October 28 (http://bethblog.com/index.php/2008/08/20/prepare-for-october-2/)

Official release date.

Pavlos
09-28-2008, 08:55 AM
Source (http://uk.pc.ign.com/)

IGN has played through the first six hours of Fallout 3 and written up their thoughts in this handy, pocket-sized preview (http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/914/914086p1.html), yours for only two shillings and sixpence. Can't say fairer than that.

Please be aware that the video included in this preview contains a fair amount of violence and doesn't seem to be age locked.

As my six hours with Fallout 3 came to a close, I brought up the map to see how much ground I had covered. It turned out that I didn't see anything from the entire northern half. Even with limiting my travels to the southern region, there were still large areas I hadn't yet had a chance to explore. This game is huge and the satisfaction you get from exploring is just as big. It's been over a week since I played and I still can't shake the desire to go back and look around some more. October 28 can't come soon enough.

Corinthian
09-28-2008, 09:00 AM
That should hopefully silence some of the too-loud whining of the general public. Not that the Fallout 3 forums will ever be anything more than an endless horde of bats, screaming as they circle a pillar of pure obsidian.

Char Ell
09-28-2008, 06:57 PM
I think it's almost time to play my first Bethesda RPG. Unlike Pavlos I have never been exposed to the Fallout franchise before so I have no emotional stake established from the previous Fallout games. It's pretty much a clean slate for me on this one. :)

Arátoeldar
10-01-2008, 08:16 PM
The Fallout 3 PC Interview: Bethesda on DRM, Censorship and Consolification (http://www.shacknews.com/featuredarticle.x?id=1012)

Pavlos
10-10-2008, 08:09 AM
Source (http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/rpg/fallout3/news.html?sid=6199023&om_act=convert&om_clk=newsfeatures&tag=newsfeatures;title;1)

Fallout 3 has gone gold. There's not much more to say about that is there?

The eagerly awaited nuclear winter is almost here. A full decade after the release of the postapocalyptic role-playing game Fallout 2 on the PC and four years after work on the project began, Bethesda Softworks today announced that Fallout 3 has gone gold for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC.

Fried gold.

Lantzen
10-10-2008, 08:14 AM
Fallout 3 got 81% from swedish PC Gamer, and also the note "It's like Oblivion with guns", and that was exactly what i didn't want it to be.

For those that have missed it it the xbox version have also leaked.
http://kotaku.com/5060952/fallout-3-360-compromised-by-pre+apocalyptic-pirates

stoffe
10-10-2008, 09:47 AM
"It's like Oblivion with guns", and that was exactly what i didn't want it to be.


"I saw some mutants by the water recently. I steered clear of them."
"Disgusting creatures! I hope to never see another."

:dev8:

That would be a bit disappointing. Morrowind and Oblivion are great and fun exploration games, but as RPGs they're somewhat lacking. :)

Arátoeldar
10-10-2008, 10:43 AM
Fallout 3 got 81% from swedish PC Gamer, and also the note "It's like Oblivion with guns", and that was exactly what i didn't want it to be.

For those that have missed it it the xbox version have also leaked.
http://kotaku.com/5060952/fallout-3-360-compromised-by-pre+apocalyptic-pirates

From what I have read on other forums, Swedish PC Gamer isn't highly thought of by Swedish people.

Ctrl Alt Del
10-10-2008, 01:30 PM
"I saw some mutants by the water recently. I steered clear of them."
"Disgusting creatures! I hope to never see another."

:dev8:
:lol:


For some reason, and despite all proof against it, I still believe F3 will be something more.

Lantzen
10-10-2008, 03:58 PM
From what I have read on other forums, Swedish PC Gamer isn't highly thought of by Swedish people. There forum aint atleast, happen something there so most members left ^^ But i think there reviews usaly is pretty good. I know that many many sites will give this a much higher score, but i think 81% will be what Fallout3 deserves from a RPG viewing point.

Like Stoffe said, Bethseda earlier games is fun with the exploring and such, but as a RPG they lack very much. just look at the dialouges on Oblivion xD

And a note, im one of those that think Oblivion is way overrated, it was fun at begining but then i started see flaws evrywhere and now i can't even bring myself to play it for another hour without mods that fixs the flaws, with them i can play it for 2 hours :xp:

jrrtoken
10-10-2008, 07:47 PM
Now that I've just completed my first playthrough of the original Fallout, I can say that Fallout 3 seems to be very different from the original. One, the combat system feels very different, and I'm not talking about the real-time system or the first person perspective, but that it seems that you always have to fight and kill everything. In the original Fallout, you can practically talk your way out of almost every situation. Plus, the music seems very... err.... not good. Seeing that the original Fallout soundtrack was mainly ambiance, replacing that with a radio... yeah, my guess is that they don't have a streaming radio tower in a nuclear wasteland.

EDIT: Oh yes, the system requirements have also been released. Looks like my graphics card is supported... barely.

System Requirements (http://gameplasma.com/index.php?do=viewarticle&id=1269)

Corinthian
10-10-2008, 10:18 PM
You've got some interesting perspective on the combat given that you haven't actually played the game.

jrrtoken
10-10-2008, 11:06 PM
You've got some interesting perspective on the combat given that you haven't actually played the game.Hey, that's just from the gameplay videos that I've seen. Right now, I'm just basing it on that, of course, my opinion can change when I actually get the game. Everyone else has their feelings toward the new installment, but unless if you have a time machine, then I guess you have opinions on Fallout 3 before you've actually played it as well.

Corinthian
10-10-2008, 11:19 PM
Gameplay videos are always going to show combat. Dialog isn't visual enough for a gameplay video.

Arátoeldar
10-11-2008, 05:20 AM
Gameplay videos are always going to show combat. Dialog isn't visual enough for a gameplay video.

He is right though. after I have watched some streaming of the x-box leak. The game plays more like Oblivion with guns with lots of combat then Fallout. If you don't want to fight. You better have a high stealth.

Corinthian
10-11-2008, 06:14 AM
Okay, let me point out some logical flaws here.

1: You're assuming that just because you didn't see it, it wasn't there.

2: You couldn't talk your way past most of the random encounters in Fallout or Fallout 2.

Arátoeldar
10-11-2008, 11:45 AM
Okay, let me point out some logical flaws here.

1: You're assuming that just because you didn't see it, it wasn't there.

2: You couldn't talk your way past most of the random encounters in Fallout or Fallout 2.

There were very few actual random encounters. Most of the combat was predetermined.

From what I have seen of this game. It is Oblivion with guns built for the Console Kiddies.

Lynk Former
10-12-2008, 06:09 AM
As a citizen of Australia, I would like to formally apologise to the rest of the world for our effect on Fallout 3. Because of the shortcomings of the videogame classification ratings in my country, certain small changes have been made to Fallout 3.

So what is the change? Well "Morphine" has now been changed to "Med-X"... lol

Sabretooth
10-12-2008, 09:15 AM
As a citizen of Australia, I would like to formally apologise to the rest of the world for our effect on Fallout 3. Because of the shortcomings of the videogame classification ratings in my country, certain small changes have been made to Fallout 3.

So what is the change? Well "Morphine" has now been changed to "Med-X"... lol
Yeah, because of you kangaroos we won't be getting our Drug Simulator 2009 now. ****.

Lynk Former
10-12-2008, 09:50 AM
Oh, if they got upitty over one drug reference in Fallout 3... imagine what they're gonna do once they see what's in GTA China Town. Full on drug dealing... that'll go down well.

Sabretooth
10-12-2008, 10:14 AM
Oh, if they got upitty over one drug reference in Fallout 3... imagine what they're gonna do once they see what's in GTA China Town. Full on drug dealing... that'll go down well.
Oh that's perfectly fine, so long as they don't have graphic depictions of substance abuse. Think of the children!

Char Ell
10-13-2008, 10:22 PM
Bethesda has released the PC system requirements for Fallout 3 (http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/info/faq.html)

Minimum System Requirements:

Windows XP/Vista
1GB System RAM (XP)/ 2GB System RAM (Vista)
2.4 Ghz Intel Pentium 4 or equivalent processor
Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 256MB RAM (NVIDIA 6800 or better/ATI X850 or better)

Recommended System Requirements:

Intel Core 2 Duo processor
2 GB System RAM
Direct X 9.0c compliant video card with 512MB RAM (NVIDIA 8800 series, ATI 3800 series)
Supported Video Card Chipsets:


NVIDIA GeForce 200 series
NVIDIA Geforce 9800 series
NVIDIA Geforce 9600 series
NVIDIA Geforce 8800 series
NVIDIA Geforce 8600 series
NVIDIA Geforce 8500 series
NVIDIA Geforce 8400 series
NVIDIA Geforce 7900 series
NVIDIA Geforce 7800 series
NVIDIA Geforce 7600 series
NVIDIA Geforce 7300 series
NVIDIA GeForce 6800 series
ATI HD 4800 series
ATI HD 4600 series
ATI HD 3800 series
ATI HD 3600 series
ATI HD 3400 series
ATI HD 2900 series
ATI HD 2600 series
ATI HD 2400 series
ATI X1900 series
ATI X1800 series
ATI X1600 series
ATI X1300 series
ATI X850 series Starting with Mass Effect I've noticed my PC only meets some of recommended requirements for these newer games. Hope my P4 will continue to make the grade until I can upgrade.

Q
10-13-2008, 11:27 PM
Oh, the amount of dread surrounding the release of this game! RPGCodex has at least a dozen threads dedicated to why this game will suck compared to the first two.

Mr Roboto
10-14-2008, 12:42 AM
20 Day Early Leak (http://www.neoseeker.com/news/8995-fallout-3-leaked-pirated-a-full-20-days-before-release/)

What a shame.

Lantzen
10-22-2008, 05:29 PM
I wonder why they give they game 90% after reading these quotes:confused:
http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/static/EkkuyAAkkZLRNZgzIh.php

SpaceAlex
10-23-2008, 01:08 AM
I wonder why they give they game 90% after reading these quotes:confused:
http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/static/EkkuyAAkkZLRNZgzIh.php

That's what I'm wondering too. Judging from the text, he wasn't that satisfied with the game at all. He even goes as far as to say that the quests are worse than those in Oblivion, which is extremely hard to believe, if you get my meaning. :D

Lynk Former
10-23-2008, 01:36 AM
Oooooooooooooh Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabre!!

Rumor: Fallout 3 release on Xbox 360 canceled in India (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/22/fallout-3-release-on-xbox-360-canceled-in-india/)

Sabretooth
10-23-2008, 02:50 AM
Oooooooooooooh Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaabre!!

Rumor: Fallout 3 release on Xbox 360 canceled in India (http://www.joystiq.com/2008/10/22/fallout-3-release-on-xbox-360-canceled-in-india/)
Hmm, I didn't hear of this. And in any case, I wouldn't be concerned with Xbox 360 games. :p Considering the price at which Microsoft pitches their games, I'm not surprised that Sony is selling so well. Although a game being cancelled due to "cultural sensitivities" is definitely a first here.

And in any case, considering the extent of piracy here, I wonder if it even matters whether a publisher releases a title here or not. You're eventually going to see it sold on the street. :p As for myself, I prefer the Internets.

Aash Li
10-29-2008, 12:30 AM
Cultural sensitivities?

Anyway, I picked up the game today... It looks nice, has the same general interface for Oblivion, as well as the nearly useless hotbar... woo! 8 whole slots! Game makes me think of the Oblivion world after a nuke hit. heh

Having trouble turning around to face my chara though. Seems I can only rotate the camera when shes sitting. And when you turn on the pipboy you toggle into run or walk... Still its kinda neat.

Lynk Former
10-29-2008, 12:44 AM
@ Aash Li: Indian's don't like it when you knock their cows. I think there's a two headed mutant cow in Fallout 3, that's probably the reason.

Aash Li
10-29-2008, 01:00 AM
Ooooooooh... I didnt think of that. Yeah theres 2-headed Brahmins. lol

Sabretooth
10-29-2008, 01:22 PM
@ Aash Li: Indian's don't like it when you knock their cows. I think there's a two headed mutant cow in Fallout 3, that's probably the reason.
That was a really bull**** decision taken by Microsoft, seeing as cows are hardly offensive. They are sacred and all yes, but it's not like they're gods. I mean you have beef and slaughterhouses here, it isn't a big deal. :/

Microsoft could have done some general market research first. I don't recall the last time anyone was ever offended due to anything regarding cows. :p

Edit: Even Diablo II's Secret Cow Level? ;) -RH

Corinthian
10-29-2008, 04:54 PM
The Hindu religion is REALLY big on their cows. I wouldn't expect them to get angry about it, but then again, you never know. Still, the Hindus are usually pretty good about this kind of thing. Thicker skin than most.

Lynk Former
10-29-2008, 09:20 PM
I dunno, maybe they got a message from some "cows rights" group or something... Microsoft really wants to appeal in India so they're not going to do anything that could potentially hurt their chances.

Sabretooth
10-30-2008, 01:21 AM
I dunno, maybe they got a message from some "cows rights" group or something... Microsoft really wants to appeal in India so they're not going to do anything that could potentially hurt their chances.
From I theory I heard on Digg, Microsoft decided to cut their losses. By not releasing the game, they won't lose money in manufacturing, distribution etc. if it ends up banned or boycotted later. Sensible market decision, but more like a nod to piracy amirite.

Bob Lion54
10-30-2008, 06:50 AM
So, I got the game Tuesday and it is great. It's not "the same," but I was expecting that. Yet, at the same time, it feels like Fallout. I think it's a very natural progression of the series and had Black Isle not gone under, I could see them making this game.

I guess I should start by comparing it to Oblivion, since that was the big pre-release mantra of many original gamers. The Oblivion influence is there, but this IS Fallout. You can definitely tell the same company made both games, much like you can tell BioWare made KotOR and Jade Empire.

The menus in Fallout 3 are similar to Oblivion, and you will see (and hear) Baurus walking around, but the character diversity is better. Actually, it's probably just that there are less characters running around than in Oblivion, what with humanity barely around and all. The world is similar in that you are giving a map that you can pick a direction and just run and explore, which you could do in the original games by using your map and seeing the "travel lines" until you came across something, but in Fallout 3, you just manually run. Fast Travel is in the game once you discover an area of interest, however.

Combat works well in Fallout 3, although the turn based system is gone. The game plays like a First Person Shooter, until you use you V.A.T.S. The V.A.T.S. is awesome. You pick your target, and when you bring up V.A.T.S., you are given the old Fallout targeting system. You can target the mobs head, left arm, right arm, left leg, right leg, and whatever weapon they are carrying, but if you want the best chance to hit, you can also target their torso. The cool thing is that if you target anything other than the torso, there's a chance the limb will get blown off or in the case of the head, explode.

The really cool thing happens after you select your target and click accept. The camera switches to a slow motion cinematic view. It will show you different angles of the fight from behind you to behind the mob to, my personal favourite, a closeup of my character's face, gleefully smiling as rounds are pumped into the enemy!

All in all, I find the combat system to be a good balance between the faster FPS type combat and the old Turn Based combat of the the originals.

The old Fallout mobs are back. While running around, I came across a Deathclaw. I was torn between "OH CRAP! THE DEATHCLAW IS GOING TO EAT ME!" and "YES! THIS IS AWESOME! A DEATHCLAW!" It was strange mix of fear and nostalgic excitement.

Voice acting is very good in the game. Ron Perlman returns with a new "War. War never changes." speech. Then you meet your Dad, who is voiced by Liam Neeson. Yep, Liam Neeson. The only other actor I picked out was Malcolm McDowell, who voiced The President. This seems a good time to mention a cool new function of your Pip Boy. It has a radio. You can turn it on and listen to The President giving patriotic speeches about rebuilding the American government and conquering the Wasteland as you play. There's also another radio station you can listen to and probably should because the two stations have different beliefs about what's best for the Wasteland. Both stations also play music between speeches by their respective host. Oh, and while not necessary, you can also pick up clues about the main quest through the radio. You're leaving the Vault is big news, and people are talking.

Anyway, I could go on for a while, but it's hard to think what to say without giving away spoilers. Overall, I like the game. It's fun and feels like it was done right. There are some things that perhaps could have been done better, but all in all, the atmosphere of the game works. One of my favourite early moments was picking up a Leather Armour. It's a small thing, perhaps, but it looks exactly like the Leather Armour from the originals, just in 3D and much more detailed.

And with that, I'm off to kill some more Super Mutants! The Wasteland calls!

Aash Li
10-30-2008, 11:32 AM
Nice review! I recognized the voices, but didnt pay attention to them being famous actors... I wonder if there were any actresses in the game we'd know. O.o

Have you tried using any Oblivion mods in the game? Im thinking about trying it. I just have to actually put the files where they go and turn on the game...

SpaceAlex
10-30-2008, 05:52 PM
I pretty much agree with Bob Lion. It seems like that everything that was wrong with Oblivion was "fixed" in this game. No more two dimensional characters, a lot better writing and voice acting, quests that can be solved in more than one or two ways... It definitely feels more like the first two Fallouts (graphic, combat, and controls notwithstanding) than Oblivion, which is a very good thing indeed. I'll have to play some more before I make any final judgments, though.

Have you tried using any Oblivion mods in the game? Im thinking about trying it. I just have to actually put the files where they go and turn on the game...

Even though the game's using the same engine as Oblivion, the content is different; I doubt any Oblivion mods will actually work. The only "mods" from Oblivion that I'm using is some .ini tweaks and in-game console commands (like changing the game's timescale). Those work because they are more Gamebryo engine than Oblivion related.

Lantzen
10-30-2008, 07:13 PM
I disagree with it being more Falloutish then Oblivionish ^^ Both me and my friend played thourgh the begining then when we went outside the vault and started exploring we went into a raider base. After being in there for like a minute we both looked on eachother and said "This feels like Oblivion". Well i haven't played so long yet, but im not too impressed yet.

I think the random bases feels way to much like the dungeons in Oblivion, and i really don't think it belong to the Fallout universe to have raider bases evrywhere, i mean in whole Fallout 1 & 2 we encoutered like three raider bases and they were story bases. It would be alot better if they did it like STALKER where the raiders actually move around the world (Well maybe they do, but i havent encounterd any yet in the way im thinking)

And i really wondering about the removal of traits, was it to much of a hassle to have start traits like in 1 & 2 ? Where they to similar to perks for Bethseda to bother make them ?

But overall the game is pretty funny, but not like the old Fallout games, i have the feel of playing Oblivion with guns and alittle better dialougs. But like i said, i havent played for to long so my opinion may change when i get more into the main story.

And a last note, i was pretty dissapointing in the Vault, they should have make the layout like the old vaults instead of random passages. Like thishttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7q71jAAakE

Lance Monance
10-30-2008, 07:58 PM
Hm.. need more reviews people! Fallout is like the only series of good RPGs I've never played and I plan to play all 3 of them starting with this one...
..if it is any good that is. :)

EDIT: Ok, that gamebanshee article.. is that true? Quest are worse than Oblivion's?

Lantzen
10-30-2008, 08:53 PM
I would recommend that you start with Fallout 1 then 2, because they are so much better then Fallout 3 probaly ever will be (Yes, im a hardcore Fallout fan, since Fallout2 top my list of best games ever:xp:)

SpaceAlex
10-30-2008, 11:43 PM
I disagree with it being more Falloutish then Oblivionish ^^ Both me and my friend played thourgh the begining then when we went outside the vault and I think the random bases feels way to much like the dungeons in Oblivion, and i really don't think it belong to the Fallout universe to have raider bases evrywhere, i mean in whole Fallout 1 & 2 we encoutered like three raider bases and they were story bases. It would be alot better if they did it like STALKER where the raiders actually move around the world (Well maybe they do, but i havent encounterd any yet in the way im thinking)

It's definitely similar in many aspects (similar graphic and gameplay), but writing and atmosphere isn't one of them, IMO. But each to their own. It's purely a matter of opinion.

I agree about the raiders, though I must say that it doesn't bother me that much; I never expected this game to be just like the first two Fallouts anyway. In fact, I chose not to compare it to the first two Fallouts at all. This helps me get over some annoyances... if I don't consider it to be a sequel, but rather a game set in the Fallout universe.

It would be nice if they could release a construction set. That way I would be able to get rid of all of the annoyances pretty fast.

EDIT: Ok, that gamebanshee article.. is that true? Quest are worse than Oblivion's?

As far as I can tell, that's definitely not true. I think the one who wrote that review never played or enjoyed the first two Fallouts, but liked Oblivion.

Arátoeldar
10-31-2008, 01:31 AM
Have you tried using any Oblivion mods in the game? Im thinking about trying it. I just have to actually put the files where they go and turn on the game...

They won't work. While the two games share the same basic engine. Fallout's engine has been tweaked.

http://www.fallout3nexus.com/index.php

stingerhs
10-31-2008, 12:11 PM
all this comparisons to Oblivion, i think, is just utter nonsense. IMHO, this game is its own game pure and simple. yes, you can tell its from the same developer, but i really don't see the point in sweating out little details like "the lighting is similar" or "it feels like they scattered Oblivion dungeons everywhere". if you go in comparing it to Oblivion, then that's all you'll see. if you go in to just play the game, i know you'll have a lot of fun because i'm having a lot of fun.

yes, i notice similarities between the two games, but the main reason is that i pay attention to a lot of technical nuances. that comes from being a detail-oriented programmer and not from a desire to pick the game apart trying to find every last similarity to other games.

so far, i'm having a lot of fun, but for the moment, my character is struggling a bit because he can't seem to find enough ammo....

Lance Monance
10-31-2008, 02:58 PM
How would you rate it compared to other good RPGs you've played, say Kotor, BG2, PS:T, the Witcher, ME, Motb, vampire 2, .. (assuming you have played any of those :))

SpaceAlex
10-31-2008, 03:39 PM
How would you rate it compared to other good RPGs you've played, say Kotor, BG2, PS:T, the Witcher, ME, Motb, vampire 2, .. (assuming you have played any of those :))

I can't really. I hold all of those in high regard, so I don't really consider one better than the other. They all have their strengths and weaknesses (more of the former, though), and I've enjoyed them all one way or another.

Lantzen
10-31-2008, 08:35 PM
all this comparisons to Oblivion, i think, is just utter nonsense. IMHO, this game is its own game pure and simple. yes, you can tell its from the same developer, but i really don't see the point in sweating out little details like "the lighting is similar" or "it feels like they scattered Oblivion dungeons everywhere". if you go in comparing it to Oblivion, then that's all you'll see. if you go in to just play the game, i know you'll have a lot of fun because i'm having a lot of fun.

yes, i notice similarities between the two games, but the main reason is that i pay attention to a lot of technical nuances. that comes from being a detail-oriented programmer and not from a desire to pick the game apart trying to find every last similarity to other games.

so far, i'm having a lot of fun, but for the moment, my character is struggling a bit because he can't seem to find enough ammo.... Yeah, opinions is a bitch, aint they ?

@Lance: Well like i said, Fallout 2 atleast top my list of best games i played, and i played all those you listed there. And i think all the games you listed also is very good, Kotor, PS:T, BG2 are atleast very high up on my same list. And like SpaceAlex said, they all have there strength and weakness, like i don't think there is a game that even can come close to match PS:T story and dialougs, but it's still aint my favorite RPG

stingerhs
10-31-2008, 08:46 PM
^^^^
yeah, and you can watch your language, too. moreso when the entire comment is offensive.

Boba Rhett
11-01-2008, 01:55 AM
Anyone running into game ending bugs? I keep on getting locked in houses. Just lost an hour of play to it. Score's nosediving.

Det. Bart Lasiter
11-01-2008, 10:06 AM
Anyone running into game ending bugs? I keep on getting locked in houses. Just lost an hour of play to it. Score's nosediving.None that I haven't caused >_>

stingerhs
11-02-2008, 05:02 AM
hehe, i keep getting myself into situations where i'm fighting outnumbered and outgunned. those moments can be frustrating at times, but its also rather rewarding when i'm the last man standing.

at least i solved the problem of not having enough ammo. i will say this about this game: stealth works pretty darn good. i just wish that you had some cool takedown animations whenever you sneak up behind someone and knife'em real good.

otherwise, no game-breaking bugs or otherwise thus far. :)

Serpentine Cougar
11-02-2008, 10:33 AM
The review of Fallout 3 (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/reviews/5419-Review-Fallout-3.2) on The Escapist (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/) says there's somewhere around 500 different endings! Is this true?

I haven't played the first two Fallouts. Do you think I'd like Fallout 3 more if I played it first or waited till after playing the first two?

Arátoeldar
11-02-2008, 01:28 PM
The review of Fallout 3 (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/editorials/reviews/5419-Review-Fallout-3.2) on The Escapist (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/) says there's somewhere around 500 different endings! Is this true?

I haven't played the first two Fallouts. Do you think I'd like Fallout 3 more if I played it first or waited till after playing the first two?



A a large majority of those endings are based on what you look like.

Aash Li
11-02-2008, 03:19 PM
From whats being said on Bethesda F3 forums, the 200 endings bit is a lie. Theres only like 3 or 4 varied endings. So they say.

Det. Bart Lasiter
11-03-2008, 07:38 PM
If anyone's having problems with LIVE or just wants to improve performance and how fast the game will load, renaming Fallout3.exe.cat to something else will cause the game to skip loading the LIVE dll.

edit: just finished the game and was completely meh'd by the ending i got.

Darth333
11-13-2008, 09:17 PM
It's sold out! It's sold out! It's sold out! :headbump And I got stuck in traffic for one hour on my way back home!

btw, is it closer to Oblivion or the previous Fallout games?

tk102
11-13-2008, 09:43 PM
A tough question to answer. I just started playing two days ago. To me, it "feels" more like Fallout than Oblivion. Besides the obvious wasteland setting, the Pip Boy and S.P.E.C.I.A.L. system are familiar aspects to its predecessors. The real-time combat and camera angle system much more akin to Oblivion, though the optional V.A.T.S. targeting system does use some of the better aspects of the old Fallout system. The dialog system seems to combine the best of both games using skill-based and perk-based dialog options combined with full voice-overs. The jibber-jabber dialog of NPCs in the background seems to have a better repertoire than I remember Oblivion having.

So far I'd say Fallout 3 has its own flavor distinct from F1/F2 and Oblivion. If you liked the earlier Fallouts and Oblivion, I think it's safe to assume you'll enjoy the game play of Fallout 3.

Achilles
11-13-2008, 10:16 PM
I have the first two Fallouts but have yet to play them. Play them first before trying to tackle 3 or will I be able to follow along without the entire backstory?

tk102
11-13-2008, 10:24 PM
As far as I can tell, you can play each of the Fallouts separately without missing much. Sure there will be references that will have deeper meaning if you played the earlier game(s), but nothing to stop you from enjoying the individual games on their own. F3 takes place on the east coat while F1 and F2 take place on the west coast, very near yours truly as a matter of fact.

You can get the gist of the backstory from wikipedia and also, for those who don't have F1 or F2, you can play them for free by signing up with Gametap. (http://www.gametap.com) Since you're an old fogie like me, I have confidence you'll enjoy the charm of the old isometric POV and dialogs, so feel free to play in any order you like.

Det. Bart Lasiter
11-13-2008, 10:35 PM
Fallout 3 is set 300 years after the original too iirc and there's plenty of ways to find out about the setting and what led up to what's happening outside of Vault 101 without playing the other 2.

jrrtoken
11-13-2008, 10:36 PM
Correction: Only Fallout 1 is entirely free. Fallout 2 requires a pesky subscription.

If you want to go into further details about the series, there's also a Fallout Wiki (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Wiki).

The only thing that is tempting me to buy F3 is, well, mods. There's quite a few out already, and many of them try to inject the original Fallout "feel" into F3. However, the only thing stopping from getting F3 is that it's been in the hands of Bethesda, so I'm expecting cheese galore with the voice acting. :dozey:

Watcher07
11-13-2008, 10:44 PM
The first two fallouts take place on the west coast, Fallout 3 takes place on the east coast and quite a bit of time has passed as well, so anything from the first two that you need to know is told to you in Fallout 3. Playing the first two will get you "into" the world of Fallout, which is honestly a really well put together, amazing world. So you should seek the experience from the first two, but don't let not having played them keep you from just firing up 3. I do highly recommend playing Fallout 1 before 2 though as they do tie together.

About Fallout 3 though... I may be the odd man out, but I really didn't think Oblivion was so amazing. It had some good graphics, and the size of the world was a pretty big wow factor for me, but once I started getting my own houses, killing things, etc., etc. I just had a hard time holding onto the core storyline. It was like the immensity of the world kept dragging me from it. Fallout 3 doesn't quite play out that way for me, which is why I love it.

Fallout 3's main quest is pretty straightforward, its all about your dad. I won't throw in any spoilers here, so don't worry. The quest takes you to several places where you learn about more quests and options that can help you become a better wastelander. The really nice thing is that despite the fact you might get sidetracked trying to help some slaves rebuild lincoln's memorial or you're debating blowing up that nuke the town was built around, many times the dialogue with people will lead you back to the main quest, fortunately not in an annoying way.

The world is truly free roam. If you run afoul of a couple deathclaws cause you went into the wrong cave, or an enclave patrol stumbles across you, well needless to say if you're not ready for it, it won't take long for you to find out. The world moves beyond you, there are roaming patrols, creatures move from area to area, its really pretty dynamic. The game does have a linearity to it though that will be hard to escape. For instance in DC, I felt many times like the rubble in my way should have been easily scaleable, but the designers felt otherwise and I was forced into one of the very many subway systems to get to the next area I wanted to go to, which leads to some frustration sometimes. Also, there are occasions in combat where things can get pretty hot and heavy, and the game really shines there, cars exploding around you, blood flying on your screen, sounds are dulled from the shockwave and you're trying to gun down that super mutie with a gatling gun. Very exciting.

The dialogue was really well written and the actors mentioned above did a great job, particularly McDowell. The side quests are excellent as well, very well thought out for the Fallout world though occasionally a bit predictable, which fortunately the game uses for some comedic moments. A radio dish has been broken and ironically another dish can be found, you get pegged to go get it, and the dialogue reflects that irony well with humour about "Let me guess, you want me to get that for you?" The game achieves a realism through dialogue because your character can be any number of different personalities.

Anyway, there are some bugs in the game that are pretty hard to get around, but there is a thread on the bethsoft forums that is the official thread for fixing game breaking bugs as best we can, many solutions for people have been found there if they're having problems. I personally never really hit any problems that were not my own comps fault, but thats just me. I've played the game from start to finish, and like some others, felt the ending was forced on me, and am somewhat disappointed by it, but such is life, it was still half decent and I'm working on my next playthrough to experience a different ending. This game isn't to be missed though, they obviously put a lot of hard work into it. The overall feeling is that they created this with alot of care and thought as well as respect for the first two games and made it into something new, which I'm ok with. Definitely check it out though as its an experience not to be missed.

-Watcher07

tk102
11-19-2008, 09:59 PM
Zero Punctuation's take on Fallout 3. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/420-Fallout-3) Thanks Achilles!

Darth333
11-20-2008, 08:20 PM
Zero Punctuation's take on Fallout 3. (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/420-Fallout-3) Thanks Achilles!

That was hilarious! :rofl:

Q
11-20-2008, 08:26 PM
From what I've heard, this game actually decent as long as you forget that it's supposed to be a Fallout game.

Char Ell
11-26-2008, 10:53 AM
Bethesda has announced forthcoming downloadable content for Fallout 3 (http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/home/pr-112508.php) for both Xbox 360 and PC versions. First up however is the PC exclusive game editor that will allow Fallout 3 players to create their own quests and content. Called the G.E.C.K., short for Garden of Eden Creation Kit, PC gamers will be able to create new creatures, weapons, quests, etc. sometime in December. Then starting in January, both PC and Xbox 360 players will get new content: Operation Anchorage, followed by The Pit in February, and Broken Steel in March.

While the new editor will be a free download it's not real clear to me that the in-game content will be free downloads. My guess is they won't be but will likely need to be purchased via Games for Windows Live or Xbox Live.

Arátoeldar
12-11-2008, 08:50 PM
G.E.C.K. is out (http://geck.bethsoft.com/index.php/Main_Page)

Make sure you install G.E.C.K. to the same folder as the game not a sub folder.

Fallout 3 High Definition Texture Pack (http://www.gamershell.com/download_36866.shtml) for those of you that can run the game at its' highest setting. It weighs in at ~400MB.

Darth333
12-11-2008, 11:49 PM
G.E.C.K. is out (http://geck.bethsoft.com/index.php/Main_Page)

Make sure you install G.E.C.K. to the same folder as the game not a sub folder.Thanks, that's good news! now I only have to find some time to play the game...[spoiler]I am still to find my virtual "dad" :p [/quote]

Fallout 3 High Definition Texture Pack (http://www.gamershell.com/download_36866.shtml) for those of you that can run the game at its' highest setting. It weighs in at ~400MB.I suppose a performance hit is to be expected given that the new textures are in 2048x2048...personally, I didn't tried the pack but I am not sure that the new textures are really an improvement (it was certainly a lot of work for the modder though ). From the screenies published here (http://www.clubic.com/actualite-244700-textures-haute-definition-fallout.html) (in French but you don't need to understand to see the screenshots) tiling seems more visible to me and I can't say that I am very fond of all those rocks...to each its own I guess...to me pure "photo-realistic" textures != automatical improvement .

Boba Rhett
01-12-2009, 04:55 PM
OK so I just got through my first run of Fallout 3. About the ending.... what the hell? I mean.... what the hell? Even Oblivion's ending was better then that and Oblivion's ending was crap.

mimartin
01-12-2009, 05:49 PM
OK so I just got through my first run of Fallout 3. About the ending.... what the hell? I mean.... what the hell? Even Oblivion's ending was better then that and Oblivion's ending was crap.
I thought the same thing my first time through. Thought it was going to be like Oblivion where I could continue on my merry way, but… I've competed 4 times through now on the 360 and I’m now on my first play through with the PC version of Fallout 3. Still need to go through at least twice on the 360 to get the evil, neutral and the slave quest achievements. FWIW I actually like Fallout 3’s ending now, well at least the good ending (as I have not seen the others). :D

Bob Lion54
01-12-2009, 05:54 PM
OK so I just got through my first run of Fallout 3. About the ending.... what the hell? I mean.... what the hell? Even Oblivion's ending was better then that and Oblivion's ending was crap.

Yea, that's really my only problem with the game. The ending is horrible. The rest of the game was fun, but then you hit the brick wall of the ending.

Which, speaking of brick walls, is the other problem with the ending. It felt too abrupt, like there should be more game. On my first playthrough, I decided to work on the main quest some more, then go back and do some more of Moira's stuff, but then BAM! The end.

I kind of had a feeling when Sarah Lyons said "Are you ready, we won't be coming back for a while," or whatever her exact line was, but I was in disbelief that I really was at the ending that soon... the lead up wasn't natural.

So, my second playthrough, I just went to Megaton and talked to Moriarty. Then, I just went and explored, avoiding all the places and people I knew would move the story along until I was ready.

tk102
01-12-2009, 06:08 PM
I wanted more of the Fallout/Fallout 2 epilogue narration, recapping how my various actions affected others in various areas of the game and what became of them. Instead there was just a couple variations on the main quest's outcome. I mean, that let me down way more than the ending of the main quest.

mimartin
01-12-2009, 06:44 PM
My major gripe was Dogmeat kept going to that great kennel in the sky. So I cured that by getting the PC version, then cheating to make him essential. It was also interesting to find out where Walter kept disappearing to. First I found him dead, so I resurrected him then he disappeared off the map with half the citizen of Megaton.

Admiral Buttercrust
01-12-2009, 10:18 PM
Yeah, opinions is a bitch, aint they ?

@Lance: Well like i said, Fallout 2 atleast top my list of best games i played, and i played all those you listed there. And i think all the games you listed also is very good, Kotor, PS:T, BG2 are atleast very high up on my same list.
What are you doing making a list of all you're favorite games when you can be playing them?
Oh, and I love Fallout 3, LOVE it,
Kotor 1 and 2, psychonauts, jedi academy, half life 2, portal, are crushed under Fallout's Epicness.
Only real bug I found was when I disabled the bomb, and found Jericho dead right next to it on the opposite side I was on.
I proceeded to yell "JERICHO, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!" then spent like 5 minutes trying to put him on a couch nearby insisting that "He must be a comfortable corpse!" then died getting shot down by the other people 'cause some dude sat on jericho's death couch, and jericho came back and everything was wonderful.
I kinda wonder if he killed himself because he wanted to blow up and I took that away, so he shot himself
I'm getting this for PC, mark my words,
MARK THEM GOOD.

Boba Rhett
01-12-2009, 10:27 PM
Kotor 1 and 2, psychonauts, jedi academy, half life 2, portal, are crushed under Fallout's Epicness.


You have sinned against both God and man.

Admiral Buttercrust
01-12-2009, 10:33 PM
You have sinned against both God and man.
It's all worth it!

JediAthos
01-30-2009, 12:37 AM
I'm pretty obsessed with this game myself at the moment. I'm level 18 and have Star Paladin Cross as my follower...she's a badass. :)

Char Ell
01-30-2009, 10:34 AM
Very nice. I like to sneak and followers don't seem to be real good at it, forcing firefights when I could avoid them if I was on my own. Hence I'm not so big on followers. Out of curiosity what kind of weapons do you equip Star Paladin Cross with?

I'm not sure how long it's going to take me to complete this game. I've got over 150 hours invested thus far in my first play through and still haven't made it to Tenpenney Towers though I do know where the towers are at least. I think I hit the level cap around the 120 hours mark. This being my first Bethesda game I didn't know what to expect but it's incredible to me, the sheer amount of content and scale in this game. As an explorer type who likes to experience all the content a game can offer this game suits me quite well.

JediAthos
01-30-2009, 12:37 PM
Cross has a ton of stuff...that I think she mostly picked up on her own...but her weapon of choice is a super sledge so she can get in my line of fire sometimes, but I'd rather have her with me than not. I think in her inventory right now she's got a minigun, combat shotgun, laser pistol, laser rifle, and a few other things that I don't remember.

I love the exploration part too...I made sure to hit all the DC momuments like the White House, Capitol Building and Lincoln Memorial. I've done the Tenpenny Tower quest and I've been working my way through the other sidequests. They just released the first DLC for the Xbox 360 but I don't have it yet, and there's more to come that I can't wait to see.

Char Ell
02-02-2009, 07:45 PM
So anybody played the new Fallout 3 DLC, Operation Anchorage? I just read an article over on bit-tech (http://www.bit-tech.net/columns/2009/01/31/this-was-meant-to-be-a-fallout-3-dlc-review/1) where the reviewer wasn't able to get Games for Windows Live working well enough to download to his PC and thus couldn't do his review. It should be needless to say that the article does not cast GfW in a favorable light and so I was wondering if anybody else had tried this out. I don't plan on getting any DLC until I finish my first playthrough, whenever that happens.

Nedak
02-02-2009, 09:44 PM
On my second playthrough. Probably my 4th favorite RPG, behind KOTOR I-II, and Oblivion. Probably tied with Mass Effect for me.

JediAthos
02-03-2009, 10:20 PM
I finished the Operation Anchorage DLC earlier today. I thought it was pretty cool, plus you get some very nice items after you finish it. Though I will say that I'm playing the game on my Xbox 360 and not PC so I can't speak to the functionality of GfW.

Nedak
02-03-2009, 10:24 PM
Is OA worth the money/points?

Arátoeldar
02-04-2009, 04:23 AM
Playing O:A offline (http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Operation:_Anchorage#Playing_offline)

Cygnus Q'ol
02-04-2009, 09:04 PM
Is OA worth the money/points?


Absolutely.

It's a nice break from decapitating super-mutants.



Nice list. I put KotOR II behind Oblivion and Mass Effect though. KotOR rules all.

JediAthos
02-06-2009, 12:23 AM
I'd say it's absolutely worth it. The T-51b winterized power armor and Gauss Rifle alone make it worth it especially since the armor doesn't seem to take any durability loss...at least on the 360 anyway.

Plus it is a nice little break from the super mutants and talon company mercs and what not.

I think they've done a fabulous job with this game despite any complaints that it's "too much like Oblivion."

Det. Bart Lasiter
02-06-2009, 12:37 AM
There's a bug that makes the winterized armor in the cache the version from the simulation, which has like 10 million HP.

JediAthos
02-06-2009, 02:06 AM
well...I hope they don't fix it :)

Arátoeldar
02-10-2009, 01:42 AM
Fallout 3 DLC slips a month (http://www.gamespot.com/news/blogs/sidebar/909182374/26772371/fallout-3-dlc-slips-a-month.html)

JediAthos
02-12-2009, 06:25 PM
I'm not concerned here...Bethesda is probably just making final tweaks and implementing bug fixes and what not. I'm still excited for both of them.

Char Ell
02-13-2009, 09:46 PM
Yeah, not a problem for me either and I appreciate Bethesda's efforts for a quality gameplaying experience. Besides, I still haven't finished my first run through this game. :D

JediAthos
02-14-2009, 12:45 AM
I finished mine a couple of days ago and started on a second because I know I missed a ton of stuff the first time.

Tysyacha
03-31-2009, 04:43 PM
Is it true that you can play a female character in this game?

mur'phon
03-31-2009, 05:20 PM
yes

JediAthos
03-31-2009, 09:37 PM
So anyone who's played through The Pitt...what are your impressions of the DLC? I thought it was too short personally...but it was a nice addition for the sake of the lore and a couple of nice weapons as well. I'm really looking forward to Broken Steel and the level cap increase that it will bring.

Tysyacha
04-01-2009, 01:31 PM
Can you customize your female character like you do FemShepard in Mass Effect(tm)? :)

mur'phon
04-01-2009, 01:49 PM
yes

mimartin
04-01-2009, 01:49 PM
The female PC can be customized; basically to the same extent you can the Female PC in Oblivion (without the elf, orc, ect options).

Char Ell
04-21-2009, 11:43 AM
Broken Steel DLC coming May 5 - Kotaku (http://kotaku.com/5219643/fallout-3s-delivers-puppies-on-may-5)

Some of the features Broken Steel will have are:
- level cap increased to 30
- 4-5 hours of new gameplay
- new perks, one of which will be an ability to revive Dogmeat and another called Nerves of Steel which will increase your action points.
- new and tougher Enclave, Mutant, and Ghoul enemies
- some new areas and updates to existing areas

Sounds like the main quest will be to help the Brotherhood of Steel fight the Enclave.

JediAthos
04-24-2009, 12:20 AM
Yup...I'm looking forward to Broken Steel Char Ell. Have been ever since they announced it along with the other two DLC's. I just hope it's not as buggy as The Pitt was.

ChAiNz.2da
04-27-2009, 02:28 PM
- new perks, one of which will be an ability to revive Dogmeat

Sold. I'm buying it as soon as I can. :D

Doesn't take too much to convince me, as I'm having a blast playing FO3 and it's DLC's ... but that perk alone I'd pay top dollar for :lol:

I swear I'm such a wuss when it comes to Dogmeat. If there's any a "hint" of the situation being too tough.. I'll send him away.

"Broken steel doesn't have an ending," he said. "There are no more endings, we got the message." Glad they listened. ;)

mimartin
04-27-2009, 03:20 PM
I swear I'm such a wuss when it comes to Dogmeat. If there's any a "hint" of the situation being too tough.. I'll send him away.I'm even worse, Dogmeat is a house dog with me. :xp:

Mav
04-27-2009, 03:32 PM
Cz mod your Dogmeat into superdog!

ChAiNz.2da
04-27-2009, 03:36 PM
I'm even worse, Dogmeat is a house dog with me. :xp:

I'm tempted ;)

I just like the whole "Mad Max" thing with me carrying my (combat) shotgun around and the dog trailing behind :lol: Maybe I'll keep him at home and just take him out for walks and the occasional mole rat flushing around Megaton :D

Cz mod your Dogmeat into superdog!
Can't.. I'm playing it on the 'evil' Xbox 360 ;)

Agent_Katarn00
04-27-2009, 10:23 PM
I'm extremely looking forward to Broken Steel.I've played through the game and i know ALOT of people disagree with me but i actually thought the ending was okay in Fallout 3.I mean it's like in some other cases where some guy saves a huge number of people then its done kind of scenario.It's a bit more different which makes it stand out to me.Personally i thought oblivion was a great game but had some flaws and fallout 3 was a great game that had some flaws,but both were so great playing it was hard to not like game.Then people have their opinions.I didn't really think the F3 ending was great but i'm glad bethesda has a great respect for their game to totally change the ending and try to make it as good as possible.I'm also glad that Bethesda announced that they are publishing a new fallout game called Fallout:New vegas.It is officially being developed by Obsidian the remnants of the people that made the original Fallout games.

Char Ell
04-29-2009, 11:43 AM
I was fine with Fallout 3's original ending as well. I think the problem is that the regular Bethesda fan base (of which I don't consider myself a part of since FO3 is the first Bethesda game I've played) had developed an expectation that Bethesda produces open ended games. I am quite interested in seeing how Broken Steel alters the original ending.

I'm even worse, Dogmeat is a house dog with me. :xp: Yeah, pretty much the same. I don't want to risk losing Dogmeat. And since I'm playing a stealth character and Dogmeat can't go into stealth mode he really doesn't serve much purpose right now since he's too weak to serve as a tank. :D I was also disappointed that I could not successfully use Dogmeat to locate the Firelance at the random encounter point where the alien spacecraft blew up in my current game. I found almost all the ammo but couldn't find where the Firelance had dropped though Dogmeat would always point in a specific direction when I directed him to find weapons for me.

JediAthos
04-29-2009, 02:57 PM
Dogmeat is a bit of a liability isn't he? Ah well...Charon pretty much takes care of my light work anyway :)

I didn't have too much of a problem with the original ending either, but I am glad that they are altering it because I know I haven't been to every little nook and cranny of the game world and being able to continue play beyond the end will be nice so I can finish exploring :)

Speaking of Firelance...I have yet to be able to make that random encounter happen dammit :)

Tysyacha
05-05-2009, 12:11 AM
Either I suck at this game or...I just plain suck.

I can't even find Galaxy News Radio--keep getting gunned down by Raiders and Super Mutants while I'm trying to navigate my way around piles of rubble and "red herring" non-enterable buildings that aren't IT! !$%^^%W$%#$ *sorry, but Fallout 3 has swears!*

Darth Avlectus
05-05-2009, 07:20 AM
OK...never even gave this game a look...is it really as addictive as crack? (...whatever that means)

A pal whom I trust on these kinds of things has given it a very high reccomendaiton... Unfortunately I do not have the very highest caliber machine.

Without me having to go back and look over *everything*...what kind of gamer audience is it reaching out to?

Det. Bart Lasiter
05-05-2009, 10:47 AM
I was fine with Fallout 3's original ending as well. I think the problem is that the regular Bethesda fan base (of which I don't consider myself a part of since FO3 is the first Bethesda game I've played) had developed an expectation that Bethesda produces open ended games. I am quite interested in seeing how Broken Steel alters the original ending..

Also the ending was kind of retarded since there are a couple of followers you can gain who are immune to radiation (Fawkes, Charon, and that robot one) who decide they don't really feel like activating the purifier for you and saving your life, which is especially odd for Fawkes because he/she gets all pissy if you lose karma.

Darth Avlectus
05-05-2009, 01:33 PM
^^^
Uhh, thanks...I think

I guess you temporarily unblocked me out of boredom???:confused:

JediAthos
05-05-2009, 02:42 PM
GTA: Most have it listed as a first person shooter with role playing elements. If you've played Oblivion and liked it then you're in the right place.

At the same time however, even if you haven't played or Oblivion, or any of the other Fallout games you can still enjoy this game. That was the situation I was in when I picked up this game and I absolutely love it. It can be very addictive if you let it...at least it was for me when I first started playing. The game world is pretty massive and the downloadable content that has been released imo compliments it nicely.

Darth Avlectus
05-05-2009, 09:27 PM
GTA: Most have it listed as a first person shooter with role playing elements. If you've played Oblivion and liked it then you're in the right place.

At the same time however, even if you haven't played or Oblivion, or any of the other Fallout games you can still enjoy this game. That was the situation I was in when I picked up this game and I absolutely love it. It can be very addictive if you let it...at least it was for me when I first started playing. The game world is pretty massive and the downloadable content that has been released imo compliments it nicely.

Okay. Well thank you. I'll keep this in mind as I lookup stuff on it.

The Spy
05-18-2009, 12:41 AM
Also the ending was kind of retarded since there are a couple of followers you can gain who are immune to radiation (Fawkes, Charon, and that robot one) who decide they don't really feel like activating the purifier for you and saving your life, which is especially odd for Fawkes because he/she gets all pissy if you lose karma.
QFT.
When I was told I would die I was like "Nope, we got Fawkes! We are covered!"
then Fawkes just went "I don't think you should be deprived of this blah blah blah"
and I was on my couch going "Who cares about the moment, get in there NOW. I DID NOT LEVEL ALL THE WAY UP AND WORK MY A** OFF FOR THIS!"
oh yea, then he decided to go hangout at some library.
What.
Arbitrary.
Silliness.
And then Bethesda decided to try and pull themselves out of my anger pile with Pearlmen candy talking about how awesome I was.
Didn't work.

JediAthos
05-21-2009, 12:07 AM
2 more DLC's announced! and for those of you playstation folks you get to play them all too :)

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/05/19/fallout-3-dlc-coming-to-ps3-beginning-late-june-two-new-multipl/

Darth333
05-21-2009, 12:41 AM
I have to admit that I hate that Windows live thing...I really dislike having to jump into hoops to play a game, even moreso when it's a small addition.

JediAthos
05-21-2009, 10:09 AM
I don't know The Pitt and Broken Steel were pretty large as far as additions go. I'm not sure I see it being any different than buying an expansion for say Neverwinter Nights or something like that.

Darth333
05-21-2009, 08:25 PM
I don't know The Pitt and Broken Steel were pretty large as far as additions go. I'm not sure I see it being any different than buying an expansion for say Neverwinter Nights or something like that.

I've got no problems with buying them. The price isn't the problem. It's the pointless Windows live crap that I dislike and the fact that you have to buy non refundable points that I won't use in full to get them. I bought Nwn/Nwn2 expansions too but on a CD/DVD. I wouldn't mind a direct download site where I can pay with my credit card (like the Oblivion DLCs) either. Besides I need to have something to rant about :p

Char Ell
05-22-2009, 10:33 AM
I agree about the Microsoft Points system. I knew I only wanted Operation Anchorage and Broken Steel and that I would need 1600 points to purchase both. I discovered I could buy Microsoft Points at the Zune Marketplace (https://live.zune.net/en-US/accounts/BuyPoints.aspx?Check=true) in 400 point increments instead of the 500 point increments listed on the Xbox Live website. I'm pleased to report that I do not have any Microsoft Points left on my account. ;) Perhaps I'm posting this too late for D3 but I share this in the hope that it will help someone avoid having an unwanted Microsoft Points balance. :)

At this point I plan on waiting for the GOTY edition of Fallout 3 in October so I can have access to all Fallout 3 DLC and avoid purchasing through GFWL.

JediAthos
05-22-2009, 01:59 PM
I believe they're planning on selling discs with the DLC's on them as well.

http://www.gamestop.com/Catalog/ProductDetails.aspx?product_id=74632

Darth InSidious
09-13-2009, 09:50 AM
Bethesda Sues Interplay over Fallout Online (http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/static/EkVkyZAuZVWDlUGqMc.php)

JediAthos
09-13-2009, 09:56 AM
Yeah...I saw that..it's unfortunate for Fallout fans. I think that V13, Fallout Online, whatever could have been an interesting concept. Fallout is one of my favorite game worlds and being able to wander though it on a grand scale would have been fun.

Sabretooth
09-13-2009, 11:26 AM
Couldn't have card less either way. Fallout: New Vegas is what I'm interested in.

cire992
09-13-2009, 03:40 PM
I remember trying Fallout 3 when it first came out. Felt the same way about it that I felt about the first two Fallouts: This game would be twice as interesting in a different setting.
But I actually just rebooted the game earlier this week with a crap-load of mods. I found a save game that dropped me right outside vault 101 so I didn't have to go through that boring exposition level again, and I'm actually having fun doing the side-quests and whatnot. I don't think I'll do the main quest, though. I didn't like it very much the first time around.

Tobias Reiper
09-13-2009, 05:57 PM
Bethesda Sues Interplay over Fallout Online (http://www.gamebanshee.com/news/static/EkVkyZAuZVWDlUGqMc.php)

Did Bethesda even MAKE the first game?
From what I can tell, all three games were made by different developers, so why is it NOW that one of them is getting their panties in a bunch over a new game by different developers?

Astor
09-13-2009, 06:04 PM
Did Bethesda even MAKE the first game?
From what I can tell, all three games were made by different developers, so why is it NOW that one of them is getting their panties in a bunch over a new game by different developers?

The first two (and all of the spin-off titles) were made by Interplay. The third was made by Bethesda, who now own the rights to all things Fallout.

That's why they're suing. Interplay was to develop V13 on condition that they raised enough money (around 30 million, IIRC) in two years - and Bethesda was to recieve around 10-15% of profits from the MMO.

Now, seeing as the deadline has passed, Interplay look set to lose any licensing rights to the Fallout Franchise. It must be pretty bitter for them, losing the rights to develop an MMO set in the universe that was born at Interplay.

Darth InSidious
09-13-2009, 07:16 PM
It's more than that. Before the sale of the Fallout IP, Interplay were all but dead in the water. This looks effectively to be the death-knell.

Also, technically Black Isle, Interplay's internal developer, put together the first two Fallouts and Tactics (?). They're also renowned for, among other works, the RPG Planescape Torment which you may have heard a few people praising to high heaven around these parts. :p

Sabretooth
09-13-2009, 11:08 PM
It must be pretty bitter for them, losing the rights to develop an MMO set in the universe that was born at Interplay.

Judging by their work progress, it doesn't look like they were really even trying to hold on to it. They didn't get Fallout 3 together, lost it. They were given a chance to make the MMO now, and they lost it big-time. Pretty much goes to show that if they don't want to do anything with the franchise other than just hog over it, they'd might as well give it up to someone more capable.

Which is exactly what happened any way.

Darth InSidious
09-14-2009, 12:53 PM
More news, Bethesda is suing over FO1/2/Tactics sales, too (http://kotaku.com/5357724/bethesda-sues-interplay-over-fallout-trademark-infringement).

To describe this as looking unnecessarily miserly on the part of Bethesda is perhaps unnecessary...

Sabretooth
09-14-2009, 02:20 PM
Well, they do have a point. A trilogy would include Fallout 3, not Fallout Tactics. >_>

Darth InSidious
09-14-2009, 02:36 PM
Actually, it would include three Fallout games; and their argument is that the name is "confusingly similar", rather than that it's playing on expectations. In any case, the cover makes quite clear what you're getting.

Tobias Reiper
09-14-2009, 03:45 PM
More news, Bethesda is suing over FO1/2/Tactics sales, too (http://kotaku.com/5357724/bethesda-sues-interplay-over-fallout-trademark-infringement).

To describe this as looking unnecessarily miserly on the part of Bethesda is perhaps unnecessary...

HAHAHAHAHA!

Oh, oh man.
Bethesda are jerks.

cire992
09-14-2009, 06:09 PM
^ This is hilarious! Those nitwit fan-boys over at NMA must be in an uproar right now... In an any case, Interplay's been basically defunct up to this point, may as well let other studios strip 'em bare.