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Obi-Wan Baloney
06-20-2007, 03:05 PM
I think I've figured out who Darth Sion is. I believe him to be Uthar Wynn, the Master of the Academy on Korriban. He sort of looks like Uthar. He is bald like him. Kind of has the same voice but darker. Uthar's death could have been explained by Revan killing him in KOTOR 1 and Kreia could have found him and brought him alive again. Tell me what you guys think.

Corinthian
06-20-2007, 03:10 PM
They have the same kind of voice? Uthar's voice was smooth. Sion sounds like he's choking on rocks. As for the baldness, anyone who's been torn apart like Sion would be bald. Besides, Kreia can't bring someone back from beyond the grave, so unless she was shadowing Revan inside that tomb, Uthar would have been long dead before she found him.

John Galt
06-20-2007, 03:59 PM
What about Hanharr? He looked REALLY dead when Kreia found him(he even vanished and left remains in-game). There's a chance, as Sion was seen meditating in the Korriban Academy near where Uthar meditated, but the voices are totally different. The gravelly-ness is probably something that the constant pain could cause, but Sion has a distinct Scottish accent, if you listen closely.

Corinthian
06-20-2007, 04:01 PM
Hanharr may have been really badly wounded, but he wasn't down for hours upon hours, if not days or weeks.

SilentScope001
06-20-2007, 04:31 PM
I think I've figured out who Darth Sion is. I believe him to be Uthar Wynn, the Master of the Academy on Korriban. He sort of looks like Uthar.

...Nah. Unlikely. Remember, Darth Sion was changed by the events of Malachor V. He talks about the "blades the Force through my flesh", showcasing that The Force wounded him terribly.

Still, good idea for fanon.

Titanius Anglesmith
06-20-2007, 04:34 PM
Good thought, but I don't think it's right. Sion didn't learn the power of immortality until after the destruction of Malachor V. Unless Revan sided with Uthar on Korriban, he would've died long before that time.

Lord Ritly
06-20-2007, 05:47 PM
Sion was a student of Korriban, He said that he watched the students turned on each other like beast. He knew Uthar and according to Kreia, Revan killed him.

Obi-Wan Baloney
06-22-2007, 03:45 PM
Don't you think he could have looked different during the Mandalorian Wars ? Kind of like Malak and his difference. Uthar also didn't say anything about his past. He could have been part of the Mandalorian Wars.

Marauder's Fury
06-22-2007, 04:53 PM
I think Darth Sion has never left Malachor until he became Darth Sion.

Jacen Stargazer
06-24-2007, 08:44 PM
It is my understanding that Sion was a student "killed" in the battle for supremacy after Revan left Korriban. That can't be Uthar, he was the headmaster and killed by Revan. It was Nihilus who became what he was during Malachor. Sion simply came there for the Trayus Academy.

Fredi
06-24-2007, 08:55 PM
It is belive that Darth Sion was a Failed Padawan called Haazen Here is the info >>> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Haazen

He look's just like Sion.... I think he might be him.

John Galt
06-24-2007, 09:38 PM
It is belive that Darth Sion was a Failed Padawan called Haazen Here is the info >>> http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Haazen

He look's just like Sion.... I think he might be him.

Interresting idea, but Darth Sion doesn't have any mechanical parts(to our knowledge), and if he did, wouldn't they've shorted out in the Kolto tank aboard the Harbinger? If you ask me, the whole Dray/Haazen/Carrick as Kreia, Sion, and Nihilus theory is kinda sketchy, unless the devs are really creative with their retcons.

Allronix
06-25-2007, 04:12 PM
Meh. It's as good a theory as any. Yes, Sion didn't have any obvious mechanical parts. Still, the bad eye is on the correct side, the face looks about right. There's a white-haired shutta running the show...

Makes as much sense as K2 did.

PoiuyWired
06-25-2007, 05:40 PM
Well, Sion looked stitched up, there is no saying that all of his bodyparts are HIS to start with. And personality wise he got the rage. Though carrick got the rage too, the egar to clear his name and things at all cost.

Zerimar Nyliram
06-25-2007, 06:57 PM
Their accents are completely different, Uthar's nose is way bigger, and it just isn't possible. I will admit that I thought about this very theory once, when I saw the scene where Sion sits in the middle of the academy meditating in the exact same spot where Uthar once did the exact same thing. I dismissed the idea after some thinking, mainly because of the different dialect of the British accent that each characters speaks, and the nose.

He's more likely that robotic guy from the comics.

Emperor Devon
06-25-2007, 06:59 PM
Probably isn't. If Sion was Uthar the devs would've revealed it to us during the game rather than have left it for us to guess.

Uthar's death could have been explained by Revan killing him in KOTOR 1 and Kreia could have found him and brought him alive again.

Meh, seems too over-the-top to me. Bringing people back from the dead with the Force is just silly. :)

Corinthian
06-25-2007, 09:38 PM
Why? They're doing it in Legacy.

ThoraxeRMG
06-25-2007, 10:02 PM
Doubt it.

PoiuyWired
06-26-2007, 12:51 PM
People look a bit different in the comic compare to in game models. Look at "A certain Ship, Its Commander, and His Famous Sidekick"

Granted, I can still hear Carth's voice when I read the comics.

Emperor Devon
06-26-2007, 07:23 PM
Why? They're doing it in Legacy.

Not the same. Cade so far has demonstrated he can bring back people from the very edge of death, not people who are completely dead.

Gargoyle King
06-26-2007, 07:27 PM
Not possible, Sion isn't "undead" as such, he is alive but his hatred and power in the darkside keeps him alive even though he is in constant pain from his fatally damaged body. So Sion can't be Uthar, it's just not logical (besides Obsidian would have atleast hinted towards this in TSL, which they didn't).

SykoRevan
06-26-2007, 07:32 PM
Not the same. Cade so far has demonstrated he can bring back people from the very edge of death, not people who are completely dead.

Indeed, even if Cade COULD bring people back from the dead, it wouldn't matter. So far, Cade is the only known person to do what Anakin wanted - to save people from death. So highly doubtful Kreia would know any of that knowledge, or anyone else from that time period. And as for the Haazen/Sion comparison I've heard alot, I doubt that too. The differences are subtle, but significant. The only real theories pertaining to the comics and the game I would say are possible are Krynda Dray being Kreia, Alek being Malak, and the hooded guy being Revan. Especially since Alek becomes bald and wears red armor in the comic when Serocco is bombed. But as for Sion, I doubt that he used to be any character we've already seen in the games or comics.

PoiuyWired
06-29-2007, 06:26 PM
You mean THIS being the Tro/Duo of the Sithlords in TSL?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Hoodedjediandalek.jpg

adamqd
07-02-2007, 06:41 AM
apart from the obvious differances,

Darth sion= Lord of pain

Uthar Wynn= Drill instructer

Jae Onasi
07-03-2007, 02:14 AM
Guys, if you want to discuss Twi'leks vs. humans, that's another thread entirely. Let's get back on topic please. I'll be more inclined to close the thread than prune that many posts next time. ;) Thanks.

Corinthian
07-03-2007, 03:37 AM
Actually, Devon, I'm pretty sure Wolf Sazen was dead.

Emperor Devon
07-03-2007, 04:16 AM
Whether he was on the very brink of death or actual death is hard to tell. (The two states look quite similar) Personally I'm inclined to think the former, as a Force power that can stop people from dying is a lot less cheesy than one that can bring back the dead. :)

But on a more on-topic note: Whether it could prevent death or reverse death, it is very unlikely Kreia learned it and used it on Uthar of all people. The devs would've let us known if she she could do either of those.

Corinthian
07-03-2007, 04:26 AM
Besides, that power is supposed to be unique to Cade.