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Fredi
06-27-2007, 07:25 PM
Well people I have always have the dough the there will be a end ... I mean I know there will be a end but I donít think it will be soon.

The Mayas thought that the world will end in 2012, some revelations of Nostradamus says that this are sings of the end of the world and other cultures believe too that the world will end in 2012 .... But a friend of mine said to me ... "I donít think the world will end in 2012 but I think the Christianity will end to that time" ... weird but well....

Tell me what you think. (I will say what I think after a few posts)

JoeDoe 2.0
06-27-2007, 07:29 PM
Nostradamus predicted that Christianity will end in 2016...

Well, if KOTOR 3 hasn't been released until then, then the world will not end, but if it has...oh well, I had a nice life

John Galt
06-27-2007, 07:50 PM
No, it won't.

Fredi
06-27-2007, 08:12 PM
Nostradamus predicted that Christianity will end in 2016...
Oops my bad .... But it said that we are in the end's

Totenkopf
06-27-2007, 08:23 PM
I've heard that the Mayan calendar 2012 doesn't actually refer to the world ending, but perhaps a new type of cycle beginning. Problem w/Nostradamus is that you can interpret him a zillion different ways, but ALWAYS w/some kind of 20/20 hindsight. The world will end when it does, civilization is another matter entirely.

Fredi
06-27-2007, 08:34 PM
I've heard that the Mayan calendar 2012 doesn't actually refer to the world ending, but perhaps a new type of cycle beginning

It is not known but the calendar dose finish in 21(I think) 2012.

TK-8252
06-27-2007, 08:45 PM
Uhhh no it won't. Maybe if a modern scientist with proof when the world will end says so, then I might trust that. But Mayas? How the hell did they figure it out? Do they have expensive computer systems and research labs and **** like that?

Fredi
06-27-2007, 08:51 PM
Well.... It said that this acient civilizations haved contact with Alians and UFO stuff....
But that realy is something very very strange

JediMaster12
06-27-2007, 09:17 PM
With the Mayan bit it means of an age. This was done because what we call the Classic Maya had this nice thing called the long count. It goes by days and with it, archaeologists have actually been able to figure out which rulers were born when. The end of the age thing also comes from an ancient Mesoamerican concept called the calendar round. They had a 365 day solar calendar and a 280 day lunar/ceremonial calendar. The two are put together like cogs and say starts at 1 Reed on the day of the reed. A complete round is 52 years. The last few days of the 52 years are extremely touchy for if noting is done right then the world ends. It just illustrates the cyclical nature in life.

As to the acual end in the world, I maintain the Christian version where first Israel shall enjoy an uneasy peace and then she will be attacked from the north by the allies of Persia, Libya and Ethiopia also those from the land of Gog. Israel will not be harmed. Then of course Tribulation after the Rapture. The Antichrist will come and shall reign with the help of the Beast. He will be charismatic and persuade the people to follow him and one day he will sit upon his throne and declare himself a god. I could go into more but that would be spoiling the whole thing. Just read Revelation and Tribulation is all laid out.

JoeDoe 2.0
06-27-2007, 10:28 PM
Dude, Nostradamus was a GANJA MASTER, so I don't believe him too muach

Corinthian
06-27-2007, 10:51 PM
Nostradamus is full of crap. Only his vaguest 'prophecies' have been correct. Hister? Bah.

As for the 2012 Mayan Calendar, well, what the hell did the Mayans know, anyway? I find it much more likely they just didn't care about something that far in the future.

GarfieldJL
06-27-2007, 11:12 PM
The only way the world will end in 2012 is if too many wackos are in office believe that and make it a self-fullfilling prophecy.

Pho3nix
06-28-2007, 06:47 AM
It probably won't, but it would be nice if it happened. :)

Samuel Dravis
06-28-2007, 08:11 AM
No, it won't end. There's been lots of people claiming it would end at X date for a long time now. No one has been right so far, and as far as I can tell the claims you mention aren't any different evidence-wise.

Darth InSidious
06-28-2007, 08:43 AM
Nostradamus was supposed to have said that the world would end in 2001. Newton predicted that the world would end in 2060 by mucking about with adding up all the letters in the New Testament and dividing by the number of Apostles and all that bull.

The world will end when it ends.

As for civilisation? That ended with the reign of Ramses IXth.

Ray Jones
06-28-2007, 10:19 AM
How is "the world will end" to be defined?

Dagobahn Eagle
06-28-2007, 10:48 AM
No. Nostradamus was an idiot and the Mayans had no idea of knowing this. It's far more creepy that 44% of Americans think the world will end in less than half a century.

Pho3nix
06-28-2007, 10:57 AM
How is "the world will end" to be defined?

I'm thinking giant Marshmallow man :xp: J/K

Probably along the lines of the Sun dying or something.

Mike Windu
06-28-2007, 10:57 AM
It better not. I have too many things to do.

Dagobahn Eagle
06-28-2007, 10:59 AM
How is "the world will end" to be defined?A worthwhile question. Would it refer merely to the end of humankind, the destruction of the Earth, or the end of the universe? Or some other definition?

SilentScope001
06-28-2007, 11:42 AM
No, it won't end. There's been lots of people claiming it would end at X date for a long time now. No one has been right so far, and as far as I can tell the claims you mention aren't any different evidence-wise.

You heard it from me first:

The world will end in 5,000,000,2007 CE. The world will burn to a crisp as the Sun gets hungry and eats it up. :)

JediMaster12
06-28-2007, 12:18 PM
As for the 2012 Mayan Calendar, well, what the hell did the Mayans know, anyway? I find it much more likely they just didn't care about something that far in the future.
They knew plenty. Within the New World, they were the only group to have the comprehension of zero, the absence of value. I wouldn't gip these ancient peoples. A lot of the things that we have in this world because of them are lost techniques. My favorite are the huge basalt Olmec heads that were obtained 80 miles away down a river and through jungle.

How is "the world will end" to be defined?
As I said, the world will under go a great Tribulation, a series of judgments as a final attempt to bring the stragglers to God. It is a series of 21 Judgments, the Seal, the Trumpet and the Vial with the last being the worst. The first 14 are called the Wrath of the Lamb whereas the Vial Judgments are called the Wrath of God. It's all in Revelation after John is instructed to write a letter to each of the seven churches.

JoeDoe 2.0
06-28-2007, 12:27 PM
Sorry to not share your religious sense, although what JM12 mentioned sounds interesting, but I believe the world will end due to our actions, we are going to screw up so bad one day that the whole world will die because of it.

As for prophecies, I think the persons that say and write them do not know the future, but are trying to influece it by giving a person an idea, because it only takes ONE person to change the world.

Corinthian
06-28-2007, 12:44 PM
I'm not saying the Mayans were stupid, but why on earth would they know when the world ends?

JediMaster12
06-28-2007, 04:02 PM
Corinthian: Again it comes from the cyclical nature of things in their belief system. Part of it I believe is also related to the environment. The Basin of Mexico is ringed by volcanoes and when those babies erupt, you get the earthquakes and the fire from the sky. Aztecan belief is that this fifth Age, the Age of balance and harmony with end in which the earth will be consumed by earthquakes and volcanic eruptions and then there will be silence. The actual account is very similar to other stories in particular Revelation. Of course that was because I was doing mythological comparison.

Totenkopf
06-28-2007, 04:56 PM
No. Nostradamus was an idiot and the Mayans had no idea of knowing this. It's far more creepy that 44% of Americans think the world will end in less than half a century.

Where do you get that figure from, anyway? I suspect that in a nation of 300 million +/-, it's probably quite high. More likely to reflect a pessimism about the possibility of an NBC war ending the world "as we know it" in our lifetimes.


I'm thinking giant Marshmallow man J/K

Man, I'd better get busy setting up that Stay Puff franchise in Pyongynag, I think that KJI would love that idea. Better not tell him about Dr. Venkman, though.... :p

Darth InSidious
06-28-2007, 05:44 PM
No. Nostradamus was an idiot and the Mayans had no idea of knowing this.
Do you know, you're much older than you look...

Jae Onasi
06-29-2007, 05:58 PM
Do you think the world will end in 2012?

No.

True_Avery
06-29-2007, 06:16 PM
A girl I used to know still owes my $5 for our bet.

She bet the world would end on 6/6/06.
I bet that it wouldn't.

Guess who won?

Fredi
06-29-2007, 06:17 PM
No.

Wow.... that was a straight answer

Dagobahn Eagle
06-29-2007, 08:11 PM
A girl I used to know still owes my $5 for our bet.

She bet the world would end on 6/6/06.
I bet that it wouldn't.

Guess who won?An exceedingly silly bet. For her to win, she would have to be right about the world ending, which'd mean that the $5 would be obsolete (unless she re-phrased the bet to 'the world will begin to end...' - if nuclear war was breaking out she might need all the resources she could get her hands on). At most, she stood to gain nothing. At worst, she would lose $5.

Totenkopf
06-30-2007, 05:29 AM
Yeah, taking such a bet should be a no-brainer though. If you lose, you pay nothing and if you win....you get "free" $$ (unless your pal's a welsher, no offense to the Welsh amongst us ;) ). :p

Simon92
06-30-2007, 06:02 AM
A girl I used to know still owes my $5 for our bet.

She bet the world would end on 6/6/06.
I bet that it wouldn't.

Guess who won?
Uhh...The little girl?

Anyway, the world [or most of it] will more likely succum to Global Warming than asplode because of some Mayans. And who the hell was Nostradamus? Wasn't there a Hunchback from somewhere like that?

Seriously...The world will not end in 2012. It's more likely that the sun blew up now and the end will come in 8 Minutes.

PoiuyWired
06-30-2007, 06:12 AM
A girl I used to know still owes my $5 for our bet.

She bet the world would end on 6/6/06.
I bet that it wouldn't.

Guess who won?

Dude I would love to take some bets like that. I mean, you never have to pay out if the world ends.

Personally I don't think the world would end anytime soon unfortunately. So anyone yelling "world's ending" should understand that.

The worse possable case of a comet hit can be spotted years away. And I don't think we will see any DeathStar orbiting the planet within the next few years.

Phantom Knight
06-30-2007, 11:14 AM
eh, I wouldn't believe in this "end of the world in 2012" crap. I mean, take a look at the Y2K theory, for example. Did our computers and Electricity ever shut down? I take it you all know the answer to that question.

But based on Scientific Research, Study and facts, it is estimated that the world will end in about five million years time (or was it billion? eh...) because the Sun will eventually turn into a Red Dwarf or something and kill the Earth with it's harsh radiation.

Master Zionosis
06-30-2007, 11:16 AM
No it won't end, there were people claiming the world would end in the year 2000, and look we're 7 years in, if it ends it will be way nearer to the year 3000, not even that, but w/e

JediMaster12
07-02-2007, 12:27 PM
Truth of the matter is that the world will end on its own time. A friend of mine, Carlos, takes each day and lives it to the fullest. Needless to say we think alike on that account but I also like to make each day meaningful. Maybe that is the way to go.

Mama Jae: Nice answer :D

Corinthian
07-04-2007, 03:19 AM
The only perspective that supports this is the theory of Alien visitors. From any other perspective, you can tell the Earth will NOT end in 2012. We haven't had the first two years of Tribulation, the sun isn't even close to nova, the only way I can think of would be nuclear war.

Darth Smaug
07-04-2007, 06:57 PM
The world won't end at 2012.

Fredi
07-04-2007, 08:56 PM
the only way I can think of would be nuclear war.
Global Warming or an asteroid too.

Lord Spitfire
07-05-2007, 01:11 AM
Asteroid? No, we will be able to adapt to an asteroid.

When an asteroid hit the dinosoars, the reason they went extinct was that the asteroid poisened the entire vegetation supply across the entire world, and that starved the herbivores to death, and the herbivores dying starved the carnivores to death.

Corinthian
07-05-2007, 04:36 AM
Firstly, Padawan, Global Warming isn't all it's cracked up to be. Besides which, it needs more than 5 years to end the world. Secondly, an intercontinental ballistic missile would do wonders for an asteroid.

Prime
07-05-2007, 09:12 AM
Global Warming isn't all it's cracked up to be. What is it "cracked up to be?"

Darth InSidious
07-05-2007, 11:17 AM
~snip~

Cleaned up off-topic post, this part of post isn't necessary anymore ;) - Cz

On the topic, it seems to me that the eruption of a supervolcano is as likely as anything to destroy the Earth. Not so much the eruption itself, but the fallout would be fairly devastating to life as we know it.

Rogue Nine
07-05-2007, 11:38 AM
Asteroid? No, we will be able to adapt to an asteroid.
Not if it's as large as what caused the Chicxulub Crater. That thing was only about 6 miles wide and it is believed to have caused the K-T Extinction event, wiping out the dinosaurs. Consider the fact that there are many, many asteroids out there with widths in excess of hundreds of miles and it seems quite unlikely that we would be able to survive an asteroid impact of that magnitude.

When an asteroid hit the dinosoars, the reason they went extinct was that the asteroid poisened the entire vegetation supply across the entire world, and that starved the herbivores to death, and the herbivores dying starved the carnivores to death.
Um, interesting hypothesis, but not one commonly accepted by the scientific community. The prevailing theory is that a large meteorite hit the earth and caused a massive fluctuation in temperature, not to mention sending up tons and tons of soot and ash into the atmosphere, blocking out sunlight. Plants would die from not being able to carry out photosynthesis rather than being poisoned. Herbivores, if not killed by the heat/tsunami/various other impact-related environmental conditions, would die from lack of food. Same with carnivores.

Totenkopf
07-05-2007, 03:52 PM
I think that would depend a lot upon where it hit. The reason I say that is that I think that the elites (globally, even) probably have provisions set aside in deep underground areas in the event of a cataclysmic global catastrophe. Most people will die, but the adaptability of humans may be the trump card in preventing our complete extinction as a species.

Corinthian
07-05-2007, 04:31 PM
Are you kidding? The Tunguska Event was caused by a 20 meter in diameter asteroid and exploded with approximately 20 megatons of force. That's more than a lot of our nuclear weapons. Heck, the largest nuclear weapon ever tested, the Tsar Bomba, was only 50 megatons. An asteroid 100 miles in diameter would likely destroy the entire planet. And I don't mean just render it uninhabitable, I mean Earth becomes a second asteroid belt. Even if we did survive, the planet would be so badly damaged I don't think it would ever recover.

True_Avery
07-05-2007, 05:50 PM
KT Event Theory:

A 10 Kilometer (6 mile) asteroid, about the size of Manhattan, hit earth with the force of 100 trillion tons of TNT, about 2 million times that of the strongest thermonuclear bomb ever test. It put earth into a 10 year long winter filled with soot, debris, acid rain, and all sorts of natural events. Eventually, mammals emerged to take control over the earth and evolved into current day humans and such.

That is the current day accepted theory.

If a second KT event hit us it would end humanity. We can adapt well, but without vegetation the animals die and our food source disappears. Without food, humanity is toast within that 10 year period alone.

Now if a 100 mile asteroid would hit us, it would most likely put quite a dent into earth but I doubt make it inhabitable. Although, it would be pretty lifeless all over for millions of years, but so was Earth at the KT event and it still recovered, especially considering much of the ocean life on the planet was still alive when KT happened.

Totenkopf
07-05-2007, 05:58 PM
Naturally, it's going to depend on the size of the body hitting the planet. If a moon sized body hit the planet, it would be as devasting for all life here as if the sun went supernova. Curtains for all. If it's more like the one believed to have taken out the dinosaurs, though, well.....we're here now. Also, the tunguska object was an airburst, which has different implications than a ground strike.

Dagobahn Eagle
07-05-2007, 08:50 PM
Firstly, Padawan, Global Warming isn't all it's cracked up to be. Besides which, it needs more than 5 years to end the world.Global warming is going to do a lot of damage, already is, but it's not going to destroy the world.

Secondly, an intercontinental ballistic missile would do wonders for an asteroid.Even if you got it into space, all it'd do would be shatter it into pieces, which would all then hit Earth. It wouldn't make a difference. But as Tot says, it all depends on the size of the asteroid. And, I suppose, its composition and site of impact.

Empress Padme
07-14-2007, 12:46 AM
Since Bush is a believer in the same faith I am ( though I can't stand the guy, we actually have the same religion) I do believe he's aware of it to the point that I think he would believe he plays a in guiding us to Christ. However I think he's totally power hunger and stuff that he is leading us to judgement day but in all the wrong ways. If someone told me 'hey I just found out Bush is the Anti-Christ ' I would not be shocked.
Mayan prophecies along with many other prophecies due point to 2012 and if not that year then very shortly after. The preachers of my religion believe. I believe we are in 'the end times' . I hope it doesn't end in 5 years but with the way we treat the world and each other , how much can this galaxy really stand before it kicks us in the tush.

JoeDoe 2.0
07-14-2007, 02:35 AM
The machines will destroy us, beware of your ipod!
Or nuclear war, thats a given

Reclaimer
07-14-2007, 03:14 AM
No, I don't. I think thats just speculation that shouldn't be taken seriously.

JoeDoe 2.0
07-14-2007, 03:51 AM
Which one, the machines or the nuclear war?

kingofbladeslv
07-17-2007, 12:52 PM
I find it hard to believe that the world is going to end on said year. People believe it just because the Mayans said it?

If any of you will notice, people have predicted the end of time since the beginning of time. Even the cavemen said that the world would end!

Caveman 1: "ugh-ugh. Big thing come. we die, boom."
Caveman 2: ".....yep"

And even now we're still debating when the end will come!

Man 1: "Uh-oh, this thing is going to kill is!"
Man 2: "...I believe it"

I believe that whatever lies ahead will take its course of action, and no amount of science will be able to stop it, whether it be an asteroid for a crash course on Earth, or if it's the Anti-Christ who emerges from the depths.

My opinion: "I don't really care"... (no, I'm not emo)

revan7189
08-01-2007, 08:42 PM
No