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Zerimar Nyliram
01-18-2008, 01:21 PM
In the first game, I mean. In some playthroughs, the messenger for a certain character just never comes, and I hate that. Is there any way to fix that, like via Save Game Editor or anything?

I've never used SGE, so I'd need a detailed, step-by-step process for making it happen. I'm currently looking a Mission. Lena has not shown up yet, and she has no more dialogue options.

Darth Payne
01-18-2008, 02:03 PM
I usually run into Lena on either Dantooine or Tatooine.

Do you have Mission in your party?

Zerimar Nyliram
01-18-2008, 02:23 PM
Yes. And yes, that's usually when it happens to me as well. I'm sorry, but your post doesn't help.

stoffe
01-18-2008, 03:18 PM
In the first game, I mean. In some playthroughs, the messenger for a certain character just never comes, and I hate that. Is there any way to fix that, like via Save Game Editor or anything?


Due to some weird logic in the trigger script the messenger trigger will be disabled after the Juhani/Xor encounter has triggered. This will prevent any messengers from other quests to appear.

Darth333
01-18-2008, 03:20 PM
Every messenger will spawn only if specific conditions are met (on certain planets after/before some events from what I remember) If you can get the conditions you should be able to do all the quests without problems (can't tell you what they were as I don't have the game anymore)..


The only npc related sidequest I recall being bugged was the Juhani quest. I think it was caused by a global variable not being set properly unless you use the rapid trasit system but it's been a while and I only vaguely remember. I made a patch a while ago...I'll see if I can find it.

Edit: here it is: (note that I don't remember if it fixes what stoffe mentions)

Zerimar Nyliram
01-18-2008, 04:22 PM
Thanks, Darth333. I'll give it a go. :D

I can tell you from past experience (I've played though this game many times) that sometimes some of the messengers do indeed never show up, even if I'm meeting all of the conditions. Lena is usually the first messenger I run into as I'm leaving Dantooine, and the fact that she didn't show up this time, and continues to not show up as I move in and out of the two spaceports I've visited so far (Dantooine and Tatooine) with Mission in my party tells me that something is definitely wrong. It also greatly worries me that she may never show up, as has been the case on the past.

Marius Fett
01-18-2008, 04:32 PM
You could edit your save in KSE to set up the quests to have been triggered?

Zerimar Nyliram
01-18-2008, 04:42 PM
I hope so. As I've said, I've never used SGE before, so I will need to know exactly how.

Darth Payne
01-18-2008, 04:57 PM
I sometimes have to wait for 5-15 seconds before Lena shows up.

Zerimar Nyliram
01-18-2008, 11:15 PM
Okay, Saved Game Editor won't run correctly, so I guess I'm screwed this time around if Lena never shows up. :(

I hate not completing all side quests.

Edit: Okay, I'm on my third world and so far I've triggered the quests for Carth, Bastila and Canderous. (Jolee has not joined my party yet, and I'm avoiding triggering Juhani's quest, even though I downloaded and installed Darth333's mod, just to be safe.) Mission's quest still won't trigger. This ain't looking good... :(

I guess I'll still live if I don't get to do her side quest this time around, but I hate that feeling of incompleteness. Plus, she'll keep saying the "Don't worry! I won't let the search for Griff get in the way" dialogue until the end of the game, and it's going to annoy me to no end.

I can't even get SGE to work, much less learn it in time to know how to fix this.

Marius Fett
01-19-2008, 06:24 AM
Well look at it this way:

All you're missing is someone screwing you out of a load of credits!

Now you can keep your money! :D

Eefluxx
01-20-2008, 10:25 PM
Correct me if I am wrong (and I tend to be quite often) but if Mission is saying "I won't let my search for Griff get in the way"...doesn't she say that after she talks to Lena and finds out Griff is on Tatooine?

Zerimar Nyliram
01-21-2008, 12:01 AM
Nope.

BrollytheMighty
01-21-2008, 03:33 AM
Okay, i have had this same thing happen to me with both Malare (for Bastila's Mother Sidequest) and Lena. With Lena what I had to do was go to Cratis Yurkal on Dantooine and Lena was standing in his shop. I clicked on her and cutscene started right up. With Malare she has been known to hide behind my Ebon Hawk on Tatooine. I clicked on her and the cutscene started right up.

Zerimar Nyliram
01-21-2008, 07:13 PM
Hey, you were right, Brolly! She was just standing there inside the store. How odd.

Problem solved, then. Thanks for your imput, everyone.

BrollytheMighty
01-21-2008, 07:17 PM
Just don't forget the part I said about Malare, she has stood behind the Ebon Hawk on more than one occasion.

Zerimar Nyliram
01-21-2008, 08:38 PM
I already did Bastila's quest, and Malare showed up normally on Dantooine with no problems. But I will keep that in mind for the future.

Hey, when Griff runs off to brew the Terisian ale, that's really the end of the quest, right? Even though he says he'll be back with your money and the journal entry go into the active quests rather than the completed quests?

Darth Payne
01-21-2008, 08:49 PM
Not completely.

Transit back to the Hawk, then transit back to the Czerka store and talk to the rodian behind the counter. After that convo is complete, talk to mission.

That is the end of that quest.

That is the way i do it at least.

Darth Balor
01-21-2008, 09:11 PM
I've done Bastilla's, Canderous', Mission's, and triggered Jolee's. But Carth's and Juhani's wont trigger.

Darth Payne
01-21-2008, 09:22 PM
Have you talked to Carth about his son? Then to Carths friend Jordo?

I think Xor appears after juhani talks about her parents death.

BrollytheMighty
01-21-2008, 10:39 PM
Yeah, Jordo never fails to spawn for me. I pretty much always speak to Carth whenever I load into a new module to see if he has anything new to say and by the time I am going to Kashyyk he has told me about the bombing of Telos and how he lost his son and wife. At that point, Jordo never fails to spawn.

Darth Balor
01-22-2008, 11:51 AM
I have heard about the Telos bombing from Carth, and about Juhani's parent's death. Now I usually don't have trouble with Jordo spawning, but as I've never bothered triggering Juhani's...

Do I have to finish Jolee's since I triggered it?

Zerimar Nyliram
01-22-2008, 12:39 PM
Jolee's is unique in that he doesn't really have a true quest like the others. He gets a messenger about Sunry, and then one extra dialogue choice if you talk to him after it, but no journal entry and no recurring dialogue that just won't go away until after you complete the quest. In essence, he goes completely back to normal as if nothing ever happened. The only difference is that he won't act all surprised when you talk to Sunry's wife on Manaan.