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Jedi Master Aagin
05-18-2008, 12:44 PM
i have to say.... atton
nobody can be compared to atton at all!
im gonna say that G0T0 is going to have 0 calls, as everyone hates that stupid droid

*Don*
05-18-2008, 12:45 PM
Shouldn't this be in the Telos Tourist Bureau?
This topic has been discussed at least 10,000 times in there.

Anyways, if I had to pick, I'd say Canderous due to his ability to be a one man army.
Seriously, he held my party down single handedly when my other members were knocked out.
He was especially helpful during the later part of Dxun (against all the sith).

EnderWiggin
05-18-2008, 12:53 PM
Kreia. Hands down.

And don't misunderstand me. It has nothing to do with her being Traya or the endgame or anything like that.

Her manipulation and utter disregard for niceties, as well as her ability to see things as they truly are make her the most amazing TSL character.

Plus, she's blind. What brilliant irony. :D

_EW_

*Don*
05-18-2008, 12:57 PM
Plus, she's blind. What brilliant irony. :D


Well...technically she can "see" through the force.
But still, I get where you're coming from.

Gurges-Ahter
05-18-2008, 01:27 PM
I'd take Visas. The Miralukas just seem pretty cool, period, and she was no exception. She was my favorite party member to bring also. And she was hot, despite the whole blindfold thing.

EnderWiggin
05-18-2008, 02:05 PM
I'd take Visas. The Miralukas just seem pretty cool, period, and she was no exception. She was my favorite party member to bring also. And she was hot, despite the whole blindfold thing.

I can see where you're coming from, but I just didn't feel Visas was developed enough to be the best character.

She was kind of like, yeah, I'm a Miraluka, I used to be Nihilus' apprentice, now I want you instead.
And if you're smart enough, she commits suicide for you.
The end.

I liked what was there, I just didn't think it was enough/important enough to warrant the title. Hopefully TSLRP will rectify this a bit.

_EW_

Kilppari
05-18-2008, 03:15 PM
Ahh... yes it is time for "Your favourite party member -thread Vol.961754"

Hmm... Good question, Kreia is clearly my favourite due to her well written character, but in coolness factor Canderous gets my vote. Why? As *Don* already stated; Who doesn't like badass mandalorian one-man army a.k.a Canderous?

Salzella
05-18-2008, 03:26 PM
Kreia, for reasons already put down :)

Though Visas does have a certain.... something about her. That voice... *shudder*. yummy.

And Atton, for his wry comments and general 'me against the galaxy' attitude.

luckyariot
05-20-2008, 05:59 AM
I can see where you're coming from, but I just didn't feel Visas was developed enough to be the best character.
_EW_
Yeah, I was pretty much thinking the same thing. The sad part is, this is where the developmental stage cuts take effect: on the party member's characters...Disciple *eyetwitch*
Kreia, for reasons already put down :)
Yeah, Kreia is, above all, the coolest and most well-written character in this game. One quick way to check? All well-written characters that hold contraversal opinions are either dispised or woshiped by the fans. No middle option. And guess what? Kreia is held in that same regard.

Hmm... other than her: Canderous, because he is very awesome (considering he's not a jedi) and kinda realistic as a person, Atton, because Atton is as Atton as Atton will ever be, ( :lol: I will never let that one slide) and T3, for being the awsome, underappreciated little droid who really accomplished A LOT in the second game.

jawathehutt
05-26-2008, 02:52 PM
I would say Mandalore/Canderous, he had kick ass looking armor, he was a BAMF and a Mandalorian, what else can you ask for. I personally found Visisas to be really useless in terms of story after maybe the first 1 or 2 rep gains, considering she never had new lines

JCarter426
05-26-2008, 03:45 PM
I can see where you're coming from, but I just didn't feel Visas was developed enough to be the best character.
My feelings exactly.

As for me, Kreia. No explanation necessary. :p But I really like all of the party members. Some of them could have been developed more, but for the most part they were extremely well done.

Shem
05-26-2008, 04:42 PM
I liked Bao-Dur the best, but Kreia was a great character too. :D

90SK
05-26-2008, 05:24 PM
Atton was my man in TSL. We were totally a team. I had him in my party almost all the time, he was like Carth from KotOR 1 for me.

I really liked Bao-Dur too, I thought his story was cool.

and @ the OP:
Even though we wasn't really useful and I never used him in my party, I wouldn't call G0-T0 horrible. I loved his voice, it was a great example of good voice acting. I actually think it would've worked better if he wasn't a party member, because that sort of blew the flow his Goto's involvement with the plot. And the fact that he looked like an up-side-down version of the interrogation droid from ANH didn't help matters. There are some kickass unused droid models in TSL that would've made great G0-T0's, and I think it's frustrating that the devs weren't more creative with it.

Actually, their lack of creativity with appearances is apparent with other things too, like the Weequay's in the game that look just like they did in RotJ. AND the Ravager looking like a Star Destroyer... those are only two examples but there are more. I'm guessing it was just one branch of Obsidian that handled those, because not all of TSL's new appearances looked reused, but even so. KotOR beats TSL in that regard: everything looked considerbly different in KotOR compared to the movies.

But that's all an aside. Like I said, Atton is my pick, with Bao-Dur in close 2nd. I don't count Kreia on my list because for me it kind of goes without saying that she's wicked good.

Rev7
05-26-2008, 05:52 PM
Mandalore, and Kreia. I used Mandalore more often than I do Kreia, but I like Kreia's background. Mandalore is just awesome.

Melly
05-26-2008, 08:20 PM
Bao-Dur is my favorite, but Kreia's a close second. Visas has quite a bit of development if you go lightside and let her 1) go into her meditation chamber on the Ravager, and 2) let her look at Nihilus' face after you kill him. ;)

Ctrl Alt Del
05-27-2008, 04:27 PM
Kreia, both by her lines, philosophy and for being the only character which backstory felt complete.

Lord Foley
05-27-2008, 07:02 PM
G0-T0, because Darth Aagin said no one would vote for him.

JCarter426
05-27-2008, 07:07 PM
Ah, out of spite, then? :xp:

I like G0-T0 too. I think he was one of the most well-developed characters in the game. As a party member, he's pretty much useless, and probably should have just been a recurring character like Atris. But he's still very interesting--the genius who was told to save the galaxy and broke because of it. Plus there's the voice and his annoying personality...he's the guy you love to hate.

Rev7
05-27-2008, 07:37 PM
Ah, out of spite, then? :xp:

I like G0-T0 too. I think he was one of the most well-developed characters in the game.
Ah, well that is interesting. He does have some interesting dilogue, but as you said, he is useless. Wouldn't you think that they would spend some more time on other characters then. GO-TO does have some wisdom in that shell of his. I think that his name should have been go-to. :D

JCarter426
05-27-2008, 07:57 PM
He isn't entirely useless...he has some interesting special abilities against droids...but you face 99% of the droid enemies in the game before G0-T0 joins your party (on Peragus and Nar Shaddaa).

Oh, and he's a stealth and demolitions specialist...even though they aren't actual class skills for him. And if you have Mira, well, you're all set in those areas.

And yeah, his name is damn annoying to type. :xp: Oh, and apparently the party members start calling him "G0-T0" once the Exile figures out he's a droid (before it's "Goto"...unless I have it backwards ;)). Interesting...completely pointless, but interesting...

Rev7
05-27-2008, 10:14 PM
Interesting...completely pointless, but interesting...
My point exactly. :)

JCarter426
05-27-2008, 11:27 PM
What, about G0-T0? Yeah. :xp:

Diego Varen
05-28-2008, 06:56 AM
I think several characters were quite cool:

T3-M4: This little droid is really likeable in the sequel and is actually useful, when compared to the first game.

Atton Rand: Like Han Solo, cool and likeable.

Kreia: One of the most well-thought out characters ever made in a Star Wars game.

Handmaiden: A very good fighter.

Mira: A very good bounty hunter.

Also, for a cool Miraluka, I'd go for Jerec anyday. Visas is boring, for me.

Achilles
05-28-2008, 07:36 AM
I have to go with T3-M4. Pretty sure I could've soloed the whole game with him once I got past Nar Shaddaa.

Darth Blood335
05-28-2008, 08:43 AM
i have to say.... atton
nobody can be compared to atton at all!
i agree he is cool and like han solo
i woulden't be surprised it Atton Was Han's Great Great Great Grandfather.

Gurges-Ahter
05-28-2008, 10:51 AM
Han >>>> Atton

jawathehutt
05-28-2008, 04:06 PM
I totally agree, atton was cool, but his past made him to "involved" with the politics of what was happening, while Han was always just a smuggler bad ass who considered the Imperials as just another thing he had to outrun.

Lord Foley
05-28-2008, 06:23 PM
Han >>>> Atton

QFE x 10

Seriously. Atton is cool in his on right, but Han Solo is pretty much untouchable.

patient_zero
05-28-2008, 06:48 PM
There are a lot of characters I liked that I'd liked them to have done a bit more with (Ex: Atton pretty much disappears from the face of the plot after Telos except for his moment or two in the spotlight on Nar Shaddaa. Hell, he spends the whole of Dxun trapped in the cockpit. Disciple disappears from the face of the plot approximately thirty seconds after you get him except for one or two of the Ebon Hawk cutscenes, which are apparently very important to the Nihilus story thread.)

But Mandalore felt vaguely finished (escpecially if you do Dxun as your third planet, as then he has no "I'm just tagging along" time, plus he always seemed like he should be an "end game" NPC) because then he got to wrap up his little Mandalorian Crusade plot and kick ass on the Ravager. Give him an axe or two and he's the king of cool. T3 gets an honourary mention for electrocuting HK. If that isn't cool, nothing is.

Totenkopf
05-29-2008, 01:35 AM
I totally agree, atton was cool, but his past made him to "involved" with the politics of what was happening, while Han was always just a smuggler bad ass who considered the Imperials as just another thing he had to outrun.

Actually, I think Solo was a former Imperial that rescued Chewbacca, hence the life debt.

Jedi Eagle 27
05-30-2008, 12:01 PM
HK-47 is my favorite. Hands down. Although I really liked Canderous for the same reasons stated by others, Kreia was the best, most well thought out character of the game (even though, she was really annoying).

Fredi
05-30-2008, 03:41 PM
Atton and Mandalord ... Atton is just like me haha and Mandalord is the army haha ...

MajinMikeyX
08-22-2008, 06:12 PM
Bao-Dur and Atton for me are equal in my like for them, but are both different, and Mandalore because c'mon, he's friggin Canderous! Canderous was awesome in KotOR 1.

Achilles
08-22-2008, 06:31 PM
Canderous was awesome in KotOR 1.Exactly - in KotOR I. ;)

HIGH ON PIE 14
08-22-2008, 07:13 PM
Mira, hands down. She is an all around good player. Good with blasters, not to mention she is the only one who can use wrist mounted rockets and darts. How cool is that? Plus she is not all uptight like some of the other party members and does not fawn over male exile like Brianna. She tells exile to get away, or she'll shoot him in the head and dump him out the airlock. :D She has an interesting background with the Mando Wars and whatnot.

That and her outfit :naughty:. No funky hoods or bulky robes for Mira.

~HOP

Arátoeldar
08-22-2008, 08:47 PM
Mira, hands down. She is an all around good player. Good with blasters, not to mention she is the only one who can use wrist mounted rockets and darts. How cool is that? Plus she is not all uptight like some of the other party members and does not fawn over male exile like Brianna. She tells exile to get away, or she'll shoot him in the head and dump him out the airlock. :D She has an interesting background with the Mando Wars and whatnot.

That and her outfit :naughty:. No funky hoods or bulky robes for Mira.

~HOP

I love Mira's attitude/spirit first. I also love the fact that she can walk through a mine field unscathed. She is my favorite.

The best developed character is Kreia.

Druganator
08-22-2008, 08:52 PM
i thot bao dur was tyte cuz first off hes an irodonian like maul and second his name is bao dur which sounds like sumthin outta lord of the rings and he seemed to have a cool story but he couldve been more developed.....and the arm was tyte.

HIGH ON PIE 14
08-22-2008, 08:58 PM
I love Mira's attitude/spirit first. I also love the fact that she can walk through a mine field unscathed. She is my favorite.

The best developed character is Kreia.

Oh, yeah, forgot to mention the Point Guard feat which allows Mira to walk through mines unharmed. Yeah, you have to love her spirit. Some good voice acting too - kudos to Emily Berry.

True Kreia is the most developed. I would say she is the best character idea, as she is so much more complicated than the rest. She was well wriiten and voiced.

Still think Mira is the coolest though :D

~HOP

Burnseyy
08-22-2008, 09:24 PM
Obviously Mira's the coolest.

Because it's just... obvious, like I mentioned above. >_>

But if she weren't it, I think it'd be Bao-Dur :^: because he's cool and collected buuut still all 'grr' when it comes to certain subjects.

So yes, I just named my favourite characters, basically. But they are the cool ones in my opinion.

HIGH ON PIE 14
08-23-2008, 03:54 PM
Yeh I liked Bao as well. Too bad most of his stuff was cut out or not completed. He had the potential to be so much better. Although, when it gets to the point that all you can say to him is never mind, it gets annoying. And he's a Zabrak...that get him some cool points, right there. :) Still...

Mira FTW!

~HOP

Burnseyy
08-23-2008, 04:17 PM
Yeh I liked Bao as well. Too bad most of his stuff was cut out or not completed. He had the potential to be so much better. Although, when it gets to the point that all you can say to him is never mind, it gets annoying. And he's a Zabrak...that get him some cool points, right there. :) Still...

Mira FTW!

~HOP

Amen!

JCarter426
08-23-2008, 05:02 PM
True Kreia is the most developed. I would say she is the best character idea, as she is so much more complicated than the rest. She was well wriiten and voiced.
Eh, Atton is a pretty complex character as well.

Ctrl Alt Del
08-23-2008, 05:13 PM
Eh, Atton is a pretty complex character as well.
Ah, he didn't said he wasn't, just that Kreia was more. Still, I will always feel that, like much of the K2 party, was underused and thus felt like an idiot.

Darth_Yuthura
08-23-2008, 05:46 PM
I think Brianna was a fairly complex character. One fanfiction described how everyone in TSL followed the exile because she and they shared a wound of some kind. Brianna's beliefs that her father and the Exile endured the same fate seemed very powerful. Her character was further enhanced by how her sisters regarded her badly because of her heritage. This was underutilized, but could have lead to a much greater subplot.

JCarter426
08-23-2008, 05:54 PM
Ah, he didn't said he wasn't, just that Kreia was more.
Heh, fair enough.

Still, I will always feel that, like much of the K2 party, was underused and thus felt like an idiot.
Eh, not any more underused than the K1 party, which is just a bunch of undeveloped archetypes, but never mind that.

Atton...eh, what I find interesting about him is that he's spent so much time trying to block out everyone else that he's lost his sense of identity. It's quite interesting.

One fanfiction described how everyone in TSL followed the exile because she and they shared a wound of some kind.
That's...erm...not true, but never mind that.

Her character was further enhanced by how her sisters regarded her badly because of her heritage. This was underutilized, but could have lead to a much greater subplot.
Unfortunately the fight between Brianna and her sisters was cut along with the rest of the game's ending. *sighs*

TriggerGod
08-23-2008, 06:06 PM
I personally thought HK and Atton were the coolest, mainly due to my Sith-like nature. If I wasn't, I would choose Atton and Brianna.

Ctrl Alt Del
08-23-2008, 06:15 PM
Eh, not any more underused than the K1 party, which is just a bunch of undeveloped archetypes, but never mind that.
Could you please develop? Because not only once that perpassed my mind.

Atton...eh, what I find interesting about him is that he's spent so much time trying to block out everyone else that he's lost his sense of identity. It's quite interesting.

Not that his backstory is not interesting, but it just happens to fast and ends too fast.

JCarter426
08-23-2008, 06:42 PM
Could you please develop? Because not only once that perpassed my mind.
Bah, never mind. You don't want to hear me babble, trust me. ;)

Not that his backstory is not interesting, but it just happens to fast and ends too fast.
Eh, true. To be fair, K1 did take things slower (in a good way), though I found the characters of K2 to be more interesting overall. Maybe the developers of K3 will manage to combine the best of both games.

Ravnas
08-23-2008, 07:08 PM
Though I liked Kreia the best as a character. Honestly T3 was probably the coolest thing ever in TSL. Gameplay wise he was far better than everyone else till they hit level 10, and he also gets two solo missions all to himself. And he kills three HK-50s? Awesome:D

Revan 411
08-23-2008, 08:29 PM
I personally thought HK and Atton were the coolest, mainly due to my Sith-like nature. If I wasn't, I would choose Atton and Brianna.

Really? Cause I do agree with you to some degree.

But overall, the most interesting Character in KOTOR II has got to be Kriea and The Exile.

The Exile, has a dark past, and has a more personality then Revan (In KOTOR I, but I blame BioWare for that part) and the relationships between Revan and The Exile, are left as a plot twist for a KOTOR III (Which I hope is true, and all this is just my opinion)

But, I still like Revan, I just don't like how BioWare made him in KOTOR I. In KOTOR II he's more developed then he was in KOTOR I, so its a tie between Revan and The Exile in my opinion.

And Kriea, there is nothing to be said about her. Period. :)

Could you please develop? Because not only once that perpassed my mind.

Okay, sit back while I type a long post.

First off, Mission, she's just a 14 years old and she's only useful on Taris. After the whole brother side quest, she's as useless as a garbage bag.

Second, Juhani was added at the last minute of the game. She has the most useless dialogue in the whole game, and half of her story was cut, so there isn't any needs to get her in your party. Just kill her, that's all I do.

Third, Zaalabar is the third useless party member in KOTOR I. He has no personalty, all he does is growls, and after Kashyyyk, there isn't any more need of him.

T3-M4, is useless in KOTOR I, but he makes up for it in KOTOR II. But still useless in KOTOR I.

The only interesting party members in KOTOR I are Carth, Bastila, Jolee, HK-47 and Mandalore. That's it, there isn't anymore interesting characters then them. Everyone else is generic.

In KOTOR II, there are only two party members that aren't that useful, GOTO and Bao-Dur. Atton, was complex. His story is very interesting, and is not the way you make it out to be.

Handmaiden is very unique and interesting again, if you ACTUALLY talk to her, and pay attention, then you'll find out more about Revan, Malak, the wars and stuff.

I don't even need to go over other characters. I'll stop rambling now.

Melly
08-23-2008, 11:34 PM
I loved Juhani in the first game for the simple reason that her problems weren't solvable by Revan in 8 easy steps, (unlike all the other party members), because her worst enemy is herself. And that's not going to just go away with some female bonding and a latte (or the SW equivalent of a latte). :xp:

Corinthian
08-23-2008, 11:56 PM
In TSL? Mandalore. Easily. HK-47 was nowhere near as funny, and every other party member had enough emotional baggage that it made me want to gag.

Ctrl Alt Del
08-24-2008, 03:37 PM
First off, Mission, she's just a 14 years old and she's only useful on Taris. After the whole brother side quest, she's as useless as a garbage bag.

Second, Juhani was added at the last minute of the game. She has the most useless dialogue in the whole game, and half of her story was cut, so there isn't any needs to get her in your party. Just kill her, that's all I do.

Third, Zaalabar is the third useless party member in KOTOR I. He has no personalty, all he does is growls, and after Kashyyyk, there isn't any more need of him.

T3-M4, is useless in KOTOR I, but he makes up for it in KOTOR II. But still useless in KOTOR I.While I don't agree with most that was said, how come that makes them underdeveloped achetypes? If there's one thing your party on both Kotors are is clichéd.

The only interesting party members in KOTOR I are Carth, Bastila, Jolee, HK-47 and Mandalore. That's it, there isn't anymore interesting characters then them. Everyone else is generic.
Your opinion. Mine is that, aside from Atton and Kreia, everyone else on K2 were undereveloped and didn't looked human enough - nor Wookie or Zabrak enough.

In KOTOR II, there are only two party members that aren't that useful, GOTO and Bao-Dur.
Again you seem to confuse what you're talking about. This isn't about usefulness.

GwannaSauna
08-29-2008, 01:49 AM
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Baodurfulltelos.jpg

I dunno, his voice was calm, annnnnnd, he was a nice guy

NOTE: In case you can't see the pic, it's Bao-Dur