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Jae Onasi
05-20-2008, 08:34 PM
It was reported today that the reason Sen. Kennedy had a seizure several days ago was because of an inoperable malignant brain tumor. He will undergo chemo and radiation, but the prognosis is poor. One of the neurosurgeons in Chicago noted that people over the age of 65 with this disease rarely live beyond 9-12 months after he diagnosis.

He has not been a stranger to controversy, but love him or hate him, he has had (and will continue to have) a tremendous influence in the Democratic party.

mimartin
05-20-2008, 09:00 PM
His influence goes far beyond the Democratic Party. Senator Kennedyís influence is now a part of this nationís government and will be felt in the everyday lives of Americans for generations.

I for one am not going to count him out yet, unlike the rest of his family, Senator Kennedy does not die easily.

Ravnas
05-20-2008, 09:54 PM
Agreed, when it comes to political dynasties in the past 40 years, none have had a bigger influence than the Kennedy family.

Here's to hoping for his speedy recovery.

Arcesious
05-20-2008, 10:26 PM
If he lives, that will be great relief. But, in this case, with such a poor prognosis, his family has my condolences.

jonathan7
05-20-2008, 10:34 PM
Agreed, when it comes to political dynasties in the past 40 years, none have had a bigger influence than the Kennedy family.

Here's to hoping for his speedy recovery.

A tragic influence, in some respects I mourn what the future could have been if J and R had lived instead of being cut down in their prime.

Indeed I think JFK's assassination could have been the greatest tragedy of the 20th Century.

With regards this particular member of the Kennedy family, he is a fighter, and we can only hope he fights through this :)

Corinthian
05-20-2008, 10:50 PM
I won't shed any tears for him, and I suspect he's a murderer, too. (Chappaquiddick Incident, anyone?)

MdKnightR
05-21-2008, 01:38 AM
I won't shed any tears for him. He's a scumbag, and I suspect he's a murderer, too. (Chappaquiddick Incident, anyone?)

I guess you could interpret this as karma.

Totenkopf
05-21-2008, 03:44 AM
^Maybe if it happened 30 years ago. However, given his excesses, something would have caught up with him soon anyway (he's >70, afterall). While I'm not going to wish him a speedy and painful demise, I'm also not going to mourn the end of his career.

jonathan7
05-21-2008, 09:31 AM
I won't shed any tears for him, and I suspect he's a murderer, too. (Chappaquiddick Incident, anyone?)

Do you ever have anything nice to say about anyone?

I dunno about anyone else, but honestly, why do you react with some much anger and lack of love?

Now as a Christian brother I have to point out the following for your consideration;

If Senator Kennedy isn't a Christian you should want him to live as long as possible so he has as much chance as possible to accept Jesus.

I am just as culpable as Senator Kennedy for my failings, so I do not judge, what he does and does not deserve, have you the power to give life, or take it away?

9With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God's likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers, this should not be. Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? My brothers, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.

Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show it by his good life, by deeds done in the humility that comes from wisdom. But if you harbor bitter envy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast about it or deny the truth. Such "wisdom" does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, of the devil. For where you have envy and selfish ambition, there you find disorder and every evil practice.

But the wisdom that comes from heaven is first of all pure; then peace-loving, considerate, submissive, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial and sincere. Peacemakers who sow in peace raise a harvest of righteousness.

Finally you may want to think about this...

Jon's definition of a pharisee;

a) Someone who answer's yes to the question 'is your doctrine perfect?'
b) Someone who expects non-Christians to behave as Christians do.

Just my two cents, thanks for reading.

Jae Onasi
05-21-2008, 09:49 AM
His influence goes far beyond the Democratic Party. Senator Kennedyís influence is now a part of this nationís government and will be felt in the everyday lives of Americans for generations.Very true.

I for one am not going to count him out yet, unlike the rest of his family, Senator Kennedy does not die easily.Unfortunately, age and the disease are not on his side.

Oddly enough, I noticed a couple weeks ago when he was speaking that he was slurring his speech a bit, and all joking about his drinking habits aside, this was a sign of the disease. I remember wondering at the time if he had had a very minor stroke and had decided not to tell the public.

Pho3nix
05-21-2008, 10:19 AM
I can never truly understand why Americans feel so strongly about their Presidents and politicians.

I mean, if a president in Finland was assassinated I doubt anyone would be affected by it in the same extent as JFK's was.

jonathan7
05-21-2008, 10:26 AM
I can never truly understand why Americans feel so strongly about their Presidents and politicians.

I mean, if a president in Finland was assassinated I doubt anyone would be affected by it in the same extent as JFK's was.

I'm not an American ;) But given that most American presidents, are few forks short of a full cutlery set, JFK was a shining beacon, and given the States position as a super power this century, its leaders are more important than most.

Jae Onasi
05-21-2008, 10:37 AM
JFK was a very popular President. He was young, attractive, had a beautiful wife and young children, and he had excited and galvanized the American public in ways that had not been seen since FDR. His assassination was also caught on film, and the sheer brutality of his death stunned the country.

I think if a very popular and well-loved Finnish politician were to be assassinated or otherwise die tragically, the Finnish people would react in a similar fashion.

Corinthian
05-21-2008, 03:00 PM
I'll start with the first part. I'm not angry. Not in the typical sense. For Ted Kennedy, all I have is contempt. I don't hate him either. I despise him, but I don't know him personally to have cultivated a healthy hatred of him.

Ted Kennedy has had plenty of chances to turn to Christ before this. He's what, seventy-five? Maybe he'll convert on his deathbed, maybe not. But he's still paying the price for murdering Mary Jo Kopechne, or at least negligently causing her death and then failing to report it until nearly 24 hours later.

Okay, thirdly, cut the archaeo-speak. And you're not as culpable as Kennedy for his failings unless you either murdered a woman or left her to die. Also, I'm not judging what should be done to him. God did that for me with the little tumor.

A: I don't think my doctrine is perfect.

B: Everyone should have to live by the same laws. It doesn't matter whether you're a Jew, Muslim, Christian, Atheist, whatever. But I don't expect them to live like a Christian. I really don't see what the point of this is anyway, if you want to discuss religious hypocrisy we can make a thread for it.