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Revan 411
06-14-2008, 01:35 PM
Pick which you like better and post your reason why you like that preson!

I like nihilus for alot of reason number 1 reason why is cause he has a dark past and a mistarys future.

Rev7
06-14-2008, 05:17 PM
Nihilius would most likely own. I mean, he does have that force drain ability, and can 'eat' a world. Why couldn't he defeat Malak?

FoolInTheWave
06-14-2008, 06:07 PM
Personally I like Darth Malak better. He just seemed more bad@$$ to me.

Fredi
06-14-2008, 06:24 PM
Darth Nihilu ... He looks cooler and he is way more powerfull.

Robondacob
06-14-2008, 07:26 PM
Malak and Nihilius are tools. I think that Nihilius would win in a fight, but since he can't say anything that makes sense, I have to go with liking Malak better.

Da_Man_2423
06-15-2008, 02:04 AM
Personally I like Darth Malak better. He just seemed more bad@$$ to me.


That's because we actually learned a tad bit about him in K1. In K2, Nihilus kinda just sits there waiting for you to come to him.

MacTavish
06-15-2008, 09:25 AM
I like Nihilus more. In K1, it only took one person (Revan) to defeat Malak. In TSL, It took about 3 (Visas, Mandalore, and the Exile) who are all very powerful players, plus the destruction of his ship.





^^my 250th post!! :bday2:

PoiuyWired
06-15-2008, 02:03 PM
Malak maybe a brute, but he is a sith nonetheless.

Nihilus is only an ex-sith degenerated into a beast controlled and chained by the lust for his hungar of the force/souls.

Ctrl Alt Del
06-15-2008, 03:12 PM
Nihilus looks cooler, that being the sole reason as to why he illustrates the cover for K2. Other than that, he has no story, is easy to beat and don't say anything comprehensible. He actually represents how much Obsidian failed with K2 for me. Malak wins this contest.

Revan 411
06-15-2008, 04:37 PM
Nihlis is better cause he seems more mistarys and more eviler and well malak is just a idiout who used the Star Forge wayy too much and it came to his downfall while Nihlis was more smarter and was more powerful then malak.

If K2 was finished then Nihlis would become the best villion.

Rev7
06-15-2008, 04:54 PM
Isn't Nihilius more powerful than Malak? We are talking about who would win in a duel right?

Astor
06-15-2008, 04:56 PM
Here we go...

Nihlis is better cause he seems more mistarys and more eviler

He's more 'eviler'? Really? I guess that depends on how you equate evil. And he's not mysterious, just badly written.

malak is just a idiout who used the Star Forge wayy too much

I wouldn't say his use of the Star Forge was too much, or that was what caused his downfall. His overconfidence caused his downfall, overconfidence brought about by what he percieved as Revan's weakness.

Nihlis was more smarter and was more powerful then malak.

I'm wondering how you reach this conclusion. We don't see (or hear) enough of him to tell that he's smarter. He certainly wasn't smart enough to end the Triumvirate (strange, considering he can apparently eat the Force).

If K2 was finished then Nihlis would become the best villion.

No, he wouldn't be.

As for my vote, Malak, if we're going on character development. If we're going on overblown, ridiculous Force abilities, Nihilus.

And remember, spell-check is your friend. :)

vodrev21
06-15-2008, 07:31 PM
I like nihilus better than malak i really wish he would get more of a backstory. As for a duel i think malak would win. Reason for that is simple if nihilus is so powerful why did he not take over the entire sith empire from malak and/or Revan. Cuz obviously he was alive and probably just as powerful as he was during tsl game

Da_Man_2423
06-15-2008, 09:23 PM
I like nihilus better than malak i really wish he would get more of a backstory.

Wait, what? Nihilus gets MORE backstory than Malak? I don't recall that at all.

As for a duel i think malak would win. Reason for that is simple if nihilus is so powerful why did he not take over the entire sith empire from malak and/or Revan. Cuz obviously he was alive and probably just as powerful as he was during tsl game

Nihilus probably was powerful...but I doubt he just instantly got powerful enough out of thin air to challenge Revan or Malak. He didn't do enough side-quests to gain XP and level up :).

Ctrl Alt Del
06-16-2008, 12:24 PM
Isn't Nihilius more powerful than Malak? We are talking about who would win in a duel right?

Read the first post, it says to pick the one you like most.

Lord Foley
06-16-2008, 04:43 PM
Malak is a far more developed character, though I was really touched when we got that one insight into Nihilus's core beliefs when he said, "Rofghahdstjhadnfag".

Inyri
06-16-2008, 04:52 PM
Nihilus has absolutely no depth unless you start speculating about him. He's an overpowered, silly character even if you delve into the cut content which makes him undefeatable (Yet you'd somehow be expected to defeat him anyway? Sounds like Star Wars' version of FF7's Sephiroth -- no wonder people drool all over him). By the end of KotOR you have some feelings about Malak. He has a background, he has motivations, he has recognizable speech... I don't see how people can possibly like Nihilus better than Malak.

Nihilus has no personality and no motivation beyond primal instincts. As flat as Malak's character may be, at least he has some character.

Ctrl Alt Del
06-16-2008, 05:00 PM
Sounds like Star Wars' version of FF7's Sephiroth -- no wonder people drool all over him
You didn't compare them, tell me you didn't...

Robondacob
06-16-2008, 05:12 PM
Nihlis is better cause he seems more mistarys and more eviler and well malak is just a idiout who used the Star Forge wayy too much and it came to his downfall while Nihlis was more smarter and was more powerful then malak.

If K2 was finished then Nihlis would become the best villion.

I am not sure if I should take this seriously.

Also, could anyone tell me what a mistarys person is?

Astor
06-16-2008, 05:26 PM
Malak is a far more developed character, though I was really touched when we got that one insight into Nihilus's core beliefs when he said, "Rofghahdstjhadnfag".

Yeah, it was nice that they took the effort to develop his character so much. :lol:

Visas: My Lord, I have felt a great disturbance in the force...

Nihilus: Gurgle, Gurgle, Glarg!

DAWUSS
06-16-2008, 06:03 PM
Malak is a far more developed character, though I was really touched when we got that one insight into Nihilus's core beliefs when he said, "Rofghahdstjhadnfag".

Isn't it amazing how they can give life and personality to Nihilus and T3-M4, who say nothing but nonsense that isn't even translated?

Inyri
06-16-2008, 06:05 PM
Isn't it amazing how they can give life and personality to Nihilus and T3-M4, who say nothing but nonsense that isn't even translated?Not really... since neither Nihilus or T3-M4 had any personality. :xp:

They did fine with R2-D2, but they didn't even try with T3-M4, for the most part. Especially in K1.

TKA-001
06-16-2008, 06:18 PM
I'm not sure what I can say about Nihilus, but I agree that T3 was an actual character.

Robondacob
06-16-2008, 06:34 PM
Isn't it amazing how they can give life and personality to Nihilus and T3-M4, who say nothing but nonsense that isn't even translated?

I used to think T3 was useless until I saw that his shock arm had unlimited uses. :o

Lord Foley
06-16-2008, 10:05 PM
T3 is a droid, it isn't even necessary to give him a character.

I'll admit, Nihilus has a lot of room to be developed into a very interesting character given proper backstory, but KotOR III is way too far off even to consider counting that. And in game, the planet eater gets taken down like he's a playground bully. First time I played the game, I thought I was in for an actual fight.

TKA-001
06-16-2008, 10:53 PM
Why do people think that Nihilus being easy to defeat in the game's mechanics is somehow a gigantic strike against his character?

Lord Foley
06-16-2008, 10:58 PM
Don't get me wrong, I'm not basing my opinion on that, it's just the icing on the cake.

TKA-001
06-17-2008, 08:44 AM
I wasn't referring to you specifically.

MacTavish
06-17-2008, 10:08 AM
I used to think T3 was useless until I saw that his shock arm had unlimited uses. :o
It does come in pretty handy on Peragus :lol:.

Ctrl Alt Del
06-17-2008, 12:55 PM
I used to think T3 was useless until I saw that his shock arm had unlimited uses. :o

For a second, I thought you meant Bao-Dur here. He's the ultimate uselessness.

Lord Foley
06-17-2008, 12:59 PM
I think Iridonians and Zabrak should all have a head-butt feat.

TKA-001
06-17-2008, 01:22 PM
This is straying from the topic, but Bao-Dur has always had more computer use, repair, and security ability than any two of my party members combined.

ForeverNight
06-17-2008, 07:05 PM
Nihilus: No vocabulary; impossible to understand; had the chances against my party like a snowball would have in hell; no backstory.

Malak: Cool story; decent vocabulary; can understand him; beat me too many times to count.

Hmm.... I think that Malak is the winner here.

Nihilus: Garble, blarg, roar. (Translated: I hate you so much!)

The Source
06-25-2008, 09:54 PM
Malek wins hands down in my book. Personallity, darkside power, and psychological need to kick his but is why I chose him.

HK-42
06-26-2008, 12:07 AM
Tie: Nihilus looks awesome but Malak Actually talks alot :)

Ztalker
06-26-2008, 08:56 AM
^ Ever considered compatibility mode? Or...removing the keyboard from your monitor might help as well :xp:

I think Nihilus would win. Malak is nothing more then a Jedi turned DS, whilst Nihilus is PURE evilness and Sith (he was supposed to be the evil side of the Exile, split off because of all the terror that happened on Malachor).
Nihilus is also more powerfull in matters of power. He has been consumed to an insane level, while Malak isn't.
Plus, one of the devs. original ideas was to have Nihilus wear Revan's skull...which makes him stronger then Revan, and Revan was stronger then Malak :D

Da_Man_2423
06-26-2008, 10:05 AM
^ Ever considered compatibility mode? Or...removing the keyboard from your monitor might help as well :xp:

I think Nihilus would win. Malak is nothing more then a Jedi turned DS, whilst Nihilus is PURE evilness and Sith (he was supposed to be the evil side of the Exile, split off because of all the terror that happened on Malachor).
Nihilus is also more powerfull in matters of power. He has been consumed to an insane level, while Malak isn't.
Plus, one of the devs. original ideas was to have Nihilus wear Revan's skull...which makes him stronger then Revan, and Revan was stronger then Malak :D


The Exile must be a true beast when it comes to the Force then, because she makes short work of Nihilus.

Ztalker
06-26-2008, 11:33 AM
Da_Man_2423 wrote:
The Exile must be a true beast when it comes to the Force then, because she makes short work of Nihilus.

That's simply failed gameplay. They didn't even have time to work out Nihilus backstory. We heared the theory about the split halfs in an interview with the creator of the game, actually.

But yeah. I think he was FAR underpowered for what he's supposed to be. He should be at least just as strong as the PC.

Ravnas
06-26-2008, 01:38 PM
This is made of fail. Nihilus rules because he's an absolute, he's not a person like the other two Sith Lords. To Quote Scorchy's walkthrough of Nihilus

He's A God waiting To Be Torn Down

Malak was A typical cartoon villain. I mean,what the hell is with his cheesy laugh?:confused: I mean, really...

Gurges-Ahter
08-04-2008, 05:14 PM
Nihilus has absolutely no depth unless you start speculating about him.

I agree with this 100%, but I like to speculate so it makes me a Nihilus fan. I appreciated Malak's story, and I thought it was well developed, but that didn't make me like Malak any more than if it had been void of development like Nihilus' story was. The point is Malak is a douche bag, with decent force sensitivity and a lot of brute strength. That's not likeable for me, especially as a Dark Lord of the Sith. Malak makes a much better apprentice.

I will agree Nihilus is a bit silly, but the little we do know about him piques my interest. Based on what we know, I like Nihilus better than Malak.

Additionally, some people pointed out that Nihilus isn't more powerful because he didn't take over the sith even though he could "eat" the force...? This is stupid, IMO. Kreia clearly states that Nihilus isn't a true Sith because he doesn't care about killing Jedi or enhancing the Sith; he only cares for his survival, which is dependent on "eating" the force. His nihilistic belief/attitude fits well with his name. In some ways this makes him more dangerous than a Sith Lord.

Burnseyy
08-04-2008, 05:21 PM
I hate both of them. :xp:
but Nihilus was boring, at least Malak spoke English :lol:

Talak Sana
08-04-2008, 05:42 PM
Malak is a far more developed character, though I was really touched when we got that one insight into Nihilus's core beliefs when he said, "Rofghahdstjhadnfag".

Thanks Foley, I think I finally understood what Nihilus was trying to say or the language he was speaking. He's just a bad l3375p34k3r.

Darth_Yuthura
08-04-2008, 09:49 PM
I despised Malak because he was so two-dimensional and greedy. I used that word properly because that's all he ever was. I enjoy getting rid of him at the end of KOTOR and... I just despise the character. He acted like Darth Vader, but he had no tragic past that lead him to the darkside. He was just just a plain fallen jedi with a lust for making himself seem more important than he actually was.

Nilhilus was different... the fact he was faceless and mute was much more intimidating. Malak was loud and obnoxious... Nilhilus was a silent death. I think his character could have been so much more, but the story didn't make him the 'ultimate villain' in KOTOR II and they missed the chance for a very different enemy from the standard 'all powerful sith lord.'

Gurges-Ahter
08-05-2008, 10:26 AM
Yes, KII could have done so much more with Nihilus. I was actually shocked when I fought Nihilus before Sion - I thought for sure Nihilus would be the ultimate enemy at the end. There was just so much left untold.

Talak Sana
08-05-2008, 10:48 AM
I remember playing KII for the first time and after defeating Nihilus, I was fairly disappointed, because The only thing I knew or saw of hi was found in that cut scene with Visas and the confrontation. Oh... and that little that Kreia told me about him.

Gurges-Ahter
08-05-2008, 10:53 AM
Yeah, I was disappointed too. There was a lot of great potential story-line with Nihilus that just wasn't unearthed (unmalachored?). As for the question from the OP though, I still liked Nihilus more than Malak, because Malak is a douche.