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tk102
08-25-2008, 01:04 AM
Which series is better? Why?

Det. Bart Lasiter
08-25-2008, 01:11 AM
harry potter has luna lovegood. case closed mother****er :carms:

GeneralPloKoon
08-25-2008, 01:27 AM
LOTR, a story as epic as Star Wars!

HIGH ON PIE 14
08-25-2008, 01:29 AM
harry potter has luna lovegood. case closed mother****er :carms:

Damn right! And through her we have Nargles, Blibbering Humdingers, Gulping Pimplies, and the Umbungular Slashkilter, so Ha! :xp:

Though I love both LOTR and HP. :) They are so different, its so hard to decide...

~HOP

Great Scott!
08-25-2008, 01:32 AM
LOTR, a story as epic as Star Wars!Definitely comes way closer than Harry Potter ever could.

The Hobbit beats both of their asses, but seeing as it's related to Lord of the Rings... yep, that gets my vote. I don't really care for either series too much though.

stingerhs
08-25-2008, 01:50 AM
LotR just has a much more epic story. that and i really enjoy Tolkien's writing style over Rowlings anyways. Tolkien was always much more detailed, and that's what i love when i read.

the other big plus is that the LotR movies where just better all around than the HP movies (thus far). and regardless of how well done the next HP movies are, its going to take a monster effort to top Return of the King. there is no other movie out there that tops it in terms of how epic it is.

Revan 411
08-25-2008, 01:58 AM
I love both series. They both have a lot of action to it, and they both have something interesting in them, and overall there both great.

But, I would have to say, Lord Of The Rings, why? Its not as childish as Harry Potter is, and has more a more mature theme.

tk102
08-25-2008, 03:08 AM
I give big credit to HP inspiring children to read.

I give big credit to Tolkien for making me want to read. :D

Pho3nix
08-25-2008, 08:01 AM
The Lord of the Rings because of the huge influence the books have had on popular culture and the fantasy genre in general.

Drunkside
08-25-2008, 10:13 AM
LOTR... easily!

ChAiNz.2da
08-25-2008, 10:27 AM
harry potter has luna lovegood. case closed mother****er :carms:

Oh yeah, well we have... uh, we have.... have uhhh... THIS!


http://www.jumpstationz.com/gallery/smeagol.jpg


I give big credit to HP inspiring children to read.

I give big credit to Tolkien for making me want to read. :D
Cheers tk :cheers:
Same here... LOTR was a large part of my growing up, and reading challenge ;) And while I thought the Harry Potter was/is excellent in both books and movies.... it didn't have the impact LOTR had on me.

LOTR gets my vote.

mimartin
08-25-2008, 12:41 PM
I went with Harry Potter, but only because I’ve actually read all the Harry Potter books. I tried reading LOTR when I was younger, but it just could not hold my interest. Enjoyed the LOTR movies, but the movies did not inspire me to pick up the books the way the “Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone” inspired me to read Harry Potter books.

SW01
08-25-2008, 04:07 PM
I first started reading The Lord of the Rings at age 12, and couldn't put it down! Read it morning, noon and night - even brought it to school with me!

Harry Potter, to me anyway, is just far too childish. As a fantasy adventure story, it cannot hold a candle to the mighty LOTR! I'll take the wizards Gandalf and Saruman above Potter's little friends any day! :lol:

HIGH ON PIE 14
08-25-2008, 04:41 PM
I went with Harry Potter, but only because I’ve actually read all the Harry Potter books. I tried reading LOTR when I was younger, but it just could not hold my interest. Enjoyed the LOTR movies, but the movies did not inspire me to pick up the books the way the “Harry Potter and the Philosopher’s Stone” inspired me to read Harry Potter books.

I know what you mean, the LOTR books were good, but could have used some editing. Some chapters were like "Wow!" and others "Okay so they crossed a field, big deal." LOTR was much more complex, I mean Tolkein made up whole other languages like Elvish and dwarvish ands all that.

I found Harry Potter more entertaining, perhaps because it was simpler. I have reread both series numerous times, though I find the older I get, the more I appreciate the LOTR. Its hard to decide cause HP is meant to be a children series while LOTR is adult (though many children read and enjoy it) The LOTRs movies however are superior without question. :D

Meh, LOTR has Gollum...but HP has Dobby, who is close enough...and he can use magic. Luna kicks Gollums ass anyway. :D Even if he won, she would just call a Crumple Horned Snorkak to finish him off. :xp:

~HOP

Marius Fett
08-25-2008, 05:52 PM
Lord of the Rings has Gimli.

He kicks the asses of ALL HP characters.

HIGH ON PIE 14
08-25-2008, 06:34 PM
Lord of the Rings has Gimli.

He kicks the asses of ALL HP characters.

As long as he does not have to jump over a chasm to get to them. :xp:

Pigwidgeon could give him a run for his money though!

~HOP

GeneralPloKoon
08-25-2008, 06:46 PM
Bwahahahahaha!!! Hilarious!

Ctrl Alt Del
08-25-2008, 06:56 PM
Books:
HP > LOTR

Movies:
LOTR >>>>>>> HP

Boba Rhett
08-25-2008, 07:40 PM
Books:
HP > LOTR




*blinks*

LordOfTheFish
08-25-2008, 07:47 PM
LOTR! HP is a waste of life...

tk102
08-25-2008, 08:06 PM
*blinks*

Maybe he meant "number of books" :p

Rev7
08-25-2008, 08:27 PM
Neither.

Seen nor read either.

HIGH ON PIE 14
08-25-2008, 08:35 PM
Neither.

Seen nor read either.

:drop2: You are missing out Rev! At the very least, you should see the LOTR movies. You don't even have to read the books to understand them.

~HOP

Boba Rhett
08-25-2008, 08:59 PM
Neither.

Seen nor read either.



*blinks*

*dies*

*continues blinking*

Jeff
08-25-2008, 09:40 PM
I think the LotR books are better than the Harry Potter books but I enjoy reading the HP books more. As for the movies, LotR by far. It's the only movie series based on books that I can say I like the movies as much as the books.

Litofsky
08-25-2008, 10:16 PM
*blinks*

*dies*

*continues blinking*


I believe that the "continued blinking," Rhett, is known as postmortem twitching. :xp:

Anyways...

Lord of the Rings, easily. Harry Potter has inspired kids to read, but Lord of the Rings just has an amazing plot. Harry Potter is just, "Harry learns magic. Voldemort returns. Six times. Gawd. That was predictable. Not to mention the epilogue to Deathly Hallows was terrible- that brought the series down by an entire point for me.

LotR... LotR... That's all that need be said. It's Lord of the Rings!

Serpentine Cougar
08-26-2008, 12:11 AM
I love 'em both, but LotR has more class.

Hayden Kered
08-26-2008, 12:57 AM
LotR...why? The stories speak for themselves!

Pho3nix
08-26-2008, 07:38 AM
Neither.

Seen nor read either.
...

wat?

Lantzen
08-26-2008, 08:21 AM
Think the Harry Potter is easier and funnier to read then LOTR, but LOTR have a much greater story to it. So in term of reading and rereading i actualy say Harry Potter, but in term of evrything else, story, movies, games and even universe they are in i say LOTR

Like someones said earlier, he loved the way Tolkien descripe evrything, i just find it irritating that it need to be one page descriping the area they are in. It take away from the action and the story that im intressing in, so thats why i will probaly never reread LOTR serie even when i think it's good

And i can't really choose one or the other, i want to take LOTR since it is a better story IMO, but not a story that i will read multiple times that i have been doing with Harry Potter. Hard to descripe what i mean in english, but hope someone get what im saying ^^

Revan 411
08-26-2008, 10:49 AM
Neither.

Seen nor read either.

http://lolabrigada.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/shocked.jpg

Great Scott!
08-26-2008, 12:10 PM
*blinks*Harry Potter's an easier read, but Lord of the Rings can be challenging for some people.

nine.roses
08-26-2008, 07:38 PM
Harry Potter has some transparent characters I would like to throttle, and a style of prose that is clunky, basic and functional. This is fine for children's literature, but it's not exactly adult reading.

Lord of the Rings is on a whole different level (and so is the Hobbit, which could be more fairly compared to the Potter books). He didn't just use the English language excellently and intellectually (it is heavy going, I agree...), he also had to go and make another language to play with. The plot is also far more developed, and less linear and repetitive than Harry Potter.

I can see why Harry Potter is considered enjoyable and entertaining, and I'm thankful for the incredible positive effect its had on children's literacy and love for reading. But for a deep and intelligent story, Lord of the Rings has no equal: it's the big daddy of fantasy fiction.

And the films aren't half bad, either. :)

M@RS
08-26-2008, 07:53 PM
I'd go with LOTR any day, it's got a better plot and funny characters too, I love reading the books :p

Miltiades
08-26-2008, 07:58 PM
While I incredibly enjoyed the LOTR books, I grew up with HP and I haven't enjoyed any book or series of books more than I have enjoyed Harry Potter. If we're talkign about the movies, LOTR, hands down.

Ferc Kast
08-26-2008, 11:32 PM
Neither.

Seen nor read either.

Both.

Seen and read all.

swphreak
08-27-2008, 12:29 AM
I'd have to say LotR. Minas Tirith owns Hogwarts in every way, and the Nazgul are much more badasses than Death Eaters.




Deathly Hallows spoiler:
Hogwarts coming alive in the movie could be pretty sweet. That would top the Army of the Dead from RotK.

Arátoeldar
08-27-2008, 01:21 AM
Harry Potter's an easier read, but Lord of the Rings can be challenging for some people.

LotR challenging. :eyepop:rofl:

If you want a semi real challenge read The Silmarillion or for a real challenge the H.o.M.E. series.

Prime
08-27-2008, 10:47 AM
I love LotR above all.

Ray Jones
08-27-2008, 11:03 AM
I kind of do not buy into both stories and must say they also appear rather boring to me.

Rachel_Ewok
08-27-2008, 05:10 PM
LotR just has a much more epic story. that and i really enjoy Tolkien's writing style over Rowlings anyways. Tolkien was always much more detailed, and that's what i love when i read.

the other big plus is that the LotR movies where just better all around than the HP movies (thus far). and regardless of how well done the next HP movies are, its going to take a monster effort to top Return of the King. there is no other movie out there that tops it in terms of how epic it is.


You took the words right out of my mouth. And I must add, that The Lord of the Rings, has HOBBITS! That automatically trumps anything Harry Potter churns out. =P

And with LotR, the movies are actually pretty darn close to the books, I can't say that about Harry Potter, mostly because I haven't seen all of the movies (about five minutes of one of them), nor have I read the books... But I do know from what I've heard, and what I've read... Harry Potter just WOULD NOT appeal to me at all.

Sigundr
08-27-2008, 08:13 PM
Until you see the battle scenes of LotR.

Both films and books are equally fantastic, but I'm a sucker for battle.

Nedak
08-27-2008, 09:45 PM
LOTR.

Way more well written.

EnderWiggin
08-28-2008, 11:08 AM
I don't know if I can honestly make an objective decision.

I like them both, very much. In terms of movies, I most definitely choose LotR.

_EW_

ForeverNight
08-28-2008, 12:03 PM
LotR, we get the Silmarillion (Sp?) and the Lost Tales (Vol. 1 & 2), and the lay of Berlain (Sp?) and the Hobbit, and The Children of Hurin, and the other one in that series..... oh, yeah, we also get the actual Lord of the Rings.

But, look at the sheer history and depth of Tolkien's world compared to Rowling's, it's just... amazing.

So, obviously, my vote was for LotR.

@Ray: Boring? LotR is anything but... unless you can't get out of the first book of the Fellowship. :giveup:

jawathehutt
08-28-2008, 08:38 PM
In both, LOTR demolishes HP. I really liked reading the the HP books, especially the later ones, and the movies are pretty good, but they cant even be compared to lotr.
Lotr has a story that affects all of middle earth, whereas the story in harry potter doesnt really affect the non-wizards until the last books. Also, Lotr has my all time favorite scene in a movie EVER, the last march of the ents. That scene gives me goosebumps every time I see it, and its not like thats the only good scene even, the entire movie is almost perfect. The only thing I can fault the movies on is not including my favorite whatever he is Tom Bambadil.

EnderWiggin
08-28-2008, 09:28 PM
Lotr has a story that affects all of middle earth, whereas the story in harry potter doesnt really affect the non-wizards until the last books.

So the scope of the books is what makes a series good?

I'm not sure I agree.

_EW_

Tommycat
08-29-2008, 09:59 AM
Lets see Epic story, Massive battles, whole world created, elvish, trolls, ogres, Nasgul, Sauron, Golem.... And of course Gimli.... Oh yeah LoTR wins hands down... And they did it in 3 books... HP couldn't finish it in 3....

And what wizard compares to Gandalf.... He even died and came back...

Lets see... Comparative based on characters
HP has Harry... LoTR has Frodo
HP has dorky kids with overinflated self worth... LoTR has the Fellowship
HP has a dieing gay wizard... LoTR has Gandalf the grey and Gandalf the white... Can't keep him down....

Agent_Katarn00
08-29-2008, 10:09 PM
For one thing Harry Potter in my opinion is well...GAY
And LOTR is epic and great for nerds like me enjoying Star Wars :D

Astor
08-30-2008, 02:47 PM
I have immensely enjoyed both series, but LOTR really wins without any question for me.

I love the detail that Tolkein put into creating not just a story, but a living world, one that keeps on going - and he enthused the entire of Middle-earth with a history almost as vibrant as our own.

And the languages... Elvish, Dwarvish, Black Speech, and more.

Each culture is distinct - and while tied to some real-world cultures, it's not obvious - sure the Dwarves are like Vikings, and Rohan similar to the Saxons, but you don't realise it.

I do like Harry Potter, but never as much as I could like LOTR.

Ctrl Alt Del
08-30-2008, 02:58 PM
*blinks*

Truly. I don't care how badly written one or the other must be (in fact, neither are) but I just had more fun reading the non-pretentious HP. Which is exactly why the movies failed so miserably IMO.

vader815
08-30-2008, 11:34 PM
the harry potter movies almost completely ruined the book series. i mean i understand that movies are going to differ from the book they come from, but come on... there is a line that should not be crossed if the movie is going to properly reflect the book (which i had assumed it was), not to mention the acting and the storyline in the movies were absolutely horrible until Year 3 (were it was promoted to just horrible)

so my vote is for Lord of the Rings, probably one of the best movie series i have ever see

SW01
08-31-2008, 12:06 AM
When it comes down to it, The Lord of the Rings is considered one of the great literary achievements of the 20th century. It is a true epic, and a classical good versus evil tale. Harry Potter, by comparison, seems little more than a children's book. I applaud J.K.Rowling for encouraging little people to start reading again, but I don't think her work could ever hope to match, much less exceed, J.R.R. Tolkien's masterpiece.

Rinku
08-31-2008, 08:22 PM
If you want a semi real challenge read The Silmarillion

I liked The Silmarillion :) it was a really good book.
But I am sorry Harry Potter has nothing when compared to LOTR. Harry potter was good for a while, but LOTR is a classic that can never get replaced or get boring.

Drunkside
09-01-2008, 11:27 AM
LotR challenging. :eyepop:rofl:

If you want a semi real challenge read The Silmarillion or for a real challenge the H.o.M.E. series.

Exactly, I read lotr when i was 10... And again when i was 12 and then once more when i was 14. And it was always the same to me:ubah epic story with all kinds of relations to the national stories of many countries. I have read HP once, and it was fun but kinda boring... But the best book EVER has got to be Musashi.... Read it about two years ago... Took me 8 days, and then re read the 1013 pages of pure gold in 5 days and yeah... YEAH!!!!!!!!

CaptainLivewire
09-01-2008, 06:59 PM
Harry Potter because:
pretty good story
EMMA WATSON(I think I spelled it right)

Darth Pvl
09-02-2008, 04:25 PM
LOTR for sure...

DeadYorick
09-03-2008, 02:06 AM
I am not much of a fan of either. But if someone put a gun up to my head and told me to choose, I would choose Harry Potter. Mostly because I read the first book before I read the Fellowship of the ring and thought it was alright

Astor
09-03-2008, 05:41 AM
I am not much of a fan of either. But if someone put a gun up to my head and told me to choose, I would choose Harry Potter. Mostly because I read the first book before I read the Fellowship of the ring and thought it was alright

Because gun-toting literary critic related crime is really on the up these days...

I will admit that Harry Potter has a much stronger marketing machine, but LOTR is still tops.

Arátoeldar
09-03-2008, 10:43 AM
LotR, we get the Silmarillion (Sp?) and the Lost Tales (Vol. 1 & 2), and the lay of Berlain (Sp?) and the Hobbit, and The Children of Hurin, and the other one in that series..... oh, yeah, we also get the actual Lord of the Rings.

But, look at the sheer history and depth of Tolkien's world compared to Rowling's, it's just... amazing.

So, obviously, my vote was for LotR.

@Ray: Boring? LotR is anything but... unless you can't get out of the first book of the Fellowship. :giveup:

The Lost Tales (Vol. 1 & 2) and The Lays of Beleriand are a part of the twelve book The History of Middle-earth series.

leXX
09-03-2008, 12:47 PM
I love 'em both, but LotR has more class.

...

The Doctor
09-04-2008, 11:56 PM
Lord of the BoRings.

Lord of the Rings was just plain dull. Every single little detail in any of the three books is drawn out for pages and pages, without seeming to end. While this does lend itself well to film-making, I wasn't impressed with the movies, either. While they were decent films, sure, they're just plain not worth all the hype - not to mention three hours sitting starring at the same field from different angles and a handful of different castles. Not to mention the acting - every single time Frodo opened his mouth I wanted to throw something at the screen.

Harry Potter was much more imaginative, to be honest. And the movies had enough big names to make it worth going to see whether it was as dull and bland as LotR or not. Any movie with Robbie Coltrane or Maggie Smith has got to be decent; but a movie with both of them? I'm there.

Boba Rhett
09-05-2008, 12:22 AM
So many things about that post upset me. I must go lay down.

Serpentine Cougar
09-05-2008, 08:20 AM
... And the movies had enough big names to make it worth going to see....
And the LotR movies didn't?

Agent_Katarn00
09-05-2008, 07:19 PM
LOTR totally owned Harry Potter.
The movies ruined HP and LOTR did very good with both.
No offense to HP fans but the LOTR the story had way more of a more of a enchanced story that actually did good with wizards.
HP is for 7 year olds,
I know some that even think HP that did not do well.

Ctrl Alt Del
09-05-2008, 10:24 PM
I know some that even think HP that did not do well.

Extremely good for you.

tk102
09-05-2008, 10:48 PM
I wasn't even thinking of the movies (and esp. not any actor) when I made this poll. They're derivative.

For one thing Harry Potter in my opinion is well...GAYLet's try to avoid using that term as perjorative. Thanks.

Rinku
09-05-2008, 10:52 PM
I personally like the LOTR books more than the Harry potter movies (LOTR movies are best overall, the HP movies are only good to watch about once while the LOTR books can be read many times over), the HP books (for me) were interesting for a bit but then I would get bored. But that is just me.

HdVaderII
09-05-2008, 11:24 PM
LOTR. The fantasy epic. End of story.

LordOfTheFish
09-06-2008, 12:07 AM
The odds are against those who favor HP.


(told you so...*sticks out tongue*)

I mean seriously? LOTR rivals Star Wars as far as epicness (Word? I don't know) go's for me. If it weren't for the depth of the SW story I would probably be a LOTR kinda guy.

M@RS
09-06-2008, 10:51 PM
LOTR is better than HP nuff' said...besides HP is just weird, and I love the detail in the LOTR books, the movies could've used better actors but were good nonetheless...

Yar-El
09-07-2008, 12:36 PM
Lord of the Rings is my style. Knights, Hobbits, orcs, and hot elves. :lol: I have Liv Tyler on speed dial. :D

M@RS
09-07-2008, 11:47 PM
Don't forget the bad lines, "If you want him come and claim him!" Come on, that's one of the worst lines in the movies...

Dex Dakari
09-13-2008, 08:50 AM
Gandalf owns Dumbledore.

And Sauron is so cool, I like it how they made them in the prologue of LOTR:TFOTR

Endorenna
09-13-2008, 07:49 PM
I'll admit, I've never seen or read HP. From what I've heard, even before I came to this forum...Lord of the Rings rules!

I didn't particularly like the books 'cause it was like: Yes, a battle! What, Boromir died! But he was my favorite character and...Aragorn, come on, that was such a LAME eulogy! Oh, lets look at the pretty white flowers on the hill as they spend eighteen days riding to Edoras...

You get the idea ;).

The movies were great! The battles were--over-used word alert--epic! Return of the King was just awesome, 'cept for the last fifteen minutes. :lol:

And yes, I did want to kill Frodo every time he opened his mouth. :lol:

Cmdr. Cracken
09-13-2008, 10:01 PM
Lord of the Rings, for sure by a long shot.

The books are epic, the movies are epic. Potter books and movies are no means bad, but they don't have that overarching feel of epicness.