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Agent_Katarn00
08-26-2008, 11:49 PM
I will try to pull it off!
I think i will make the TC by myself.
The members i were going to have are not keeping in contact with me or not doing anything or just sending me spam!
God i hate it!
This one guy...:(
I am working on it.
Currently working on menus,huds,skins,and maps.
If you guys would ever like to discuss the mod here please come!
I am usually ALWAYS avalible but since,schools coming :( progress will slow down.I asure you guys i won't take forever.
Not planning ever to quit:D!

M@RS
08-27-2008, 06:48 PM
I finished the skin :D here's a couple pics...
is there anything you want me to change?
http://lucasforums.com/picture.php?albumid=107&pictureid=1623

http://lucasforums.com/picture.php?albumid=107&pictureid=1624

Pwnzor326
08-27-2008, 06:54 PM
So you guys are putting in the guns and levels from DF 2 into JK 2 right?

M@RS
08-27-2008, 06:55 PM
apparently, I'm just skinning for the mod ;)

Agent_Katarn00
08-27-2008, 07:22 PM
It looks pretty good.:D
Could you convert it to jo.
The models from ja don't work :(
It's just that the mod is based off the first of jedi knight.
Not making a new jk.
I could use this for a future project just because i have story that has to do with assassins.
But if you could give a link .
It looks good though.:D
And yes I will recreate all weapons from jedi knight:dark forces 2 for jk2:jedi outcast.

M@RS
08-27-2008, 07:25 PM
It is for JO, but it works in JA ;)

Agent_Katarn00
08-27-2008, 07:40 PM
THanks just send me a link to the skin.
Thank You M@rs!:D

M@RS
08-27-2008, 11:15 PM
I still need to join so it may take awhile ;)

Agent_Katarn00
08-28-2008, 12:33 AM
Take your time:)

M@RS
08-28-2008, 12:44 AM
Thanks, and right now, I'm working on Kyle, just for kicks really ;) anything else you want me to do?

Agent_Katarn00
08-28-2008, 12:57 AM
Actually i'm working on a skin for kyle right now.:(
But i'm doing it as the default one.
If you could do dark kyle from dark forces 2 jedi knight mp.
You can go on filefront jkfiles to see what he looks like.
I will use the skin for a extra multiplayer bonus thing!:D
Thanks for your help M@RS!

Edit:
Oh and mars can you help me with something on my profile?
I want to change how it says rookie on my profle.
I want to kind of pimp it a little :D

The title under your name changes periodically as your post count increases. Once you get past 1000 posts, then you can make your own custom title. Spamming to get to 1000 posts is not A Good Thing, however. ;) --Jae

Agent_Katarn00
08-28-2008, 10:34 PM
Is anyone willing to see some screens of the unfinished kyle skin?

M@RS
08-28-2008, 11:35 PM
Sure, but be sure to use the lucasforum album, or I won't be able to see it...

Agent_Katarn00
08-28-2008, 11:38 PM
Okay,i'll post it in my next comment.
Just to tell you i used the original kyle model and not the BEST skinner.
So go easy on me when you see it.;)

M@RS
08-28-2008, 11:39 PM
Okay, I can make another one if you want ;)

Agent_Katarn00
08-28-2008, 11:47 PM
Don't worry bout it.
It's just that i get bad quality when i get my screens because lighting is messed up.:)
I have to press print screen to get pictures.
M@RS also how do you get pics in your comments?
I'm a newbie at this kind of stuff on the forums:(

M@RS
08-28-2008, 11:50 PM
Copy the BB code and post it...

Agent_Katarn00
08-28-2008, 11:53 PM
Here's the skin!
Just to remind you it's not 100% done yet ;)
http://www.lucasforums.com/picture.php?albumid=197&pictureid=1639

M@RS
08-28-2008, 11:55 PM
Not bad, but try getting rid of the thread lines on the shirt, and make it more white-ISH, and lastly, try adding more folds in the shirt ;)

Agent_Katarn00
08-28-2008, 11:57 PM
Okay got it.:)
But M@RS just to remind you i'm trying to portray him from the cut-scenes in df2.
Ya know just a reminder.:)

Agent_Katarn00
08-29-2008, 12:00 AM
Here's a pic of the main menu so far :)
http://www.lucasforums.com/picture.php?albumid=197&pictureid=1640

M@RS
08-29-2008, 12:00 AM
Ah, Just to be safe, I'll skin him how he looks in the game, not the cut-scenes ;)

and, is it possible to make the menu look like it does in DF2?

Agent_Katarn00
08-29-2008, 12:03 AM
Well actually i haven't got to far in menu editing with where buttons go and color of buttons.I've been messing around with everything i could find in the jo assets.:)
I'm going to use the cut-scene kyle just because i think lucasarts orginally wanted to make kyle look how he did in the c-scenes.Just an opinion;)

M@RS
08-29-2008, 12:05 AM
Ah, I need to get more into that, and I found a nice hilt pack that we could it comes with custom blades too :brow:

Agent_Katarn00
08-29-2008, 12:12 AM
M@RS just to let you know i'm not going to make the 1st release perfect.
Just because i'm only in elemntary school and my school doesn't really teach me much about graphics.I just think the 1st release is going to be like a test of modding skills of me and any other people that are in the modding community.
I want to kind of test my skills in the release.See how people react to it.;)
Oh and glad you found a hilt pack:)

DeadYorick
08-29-2008, 12:18 AM
I have a question. When you get around to doing Boc how are you going to have him have 2 lightsabers?

M@RS
08-29-2008, 12:26 AM
hmm, that's a good point...I don't know.

Agent_Katarn00
08-29-2008, 12:36 AM
That is actually a great question.
We'll have to figure out that problem later in the later releases.;)
Damn jedi outcast with the single blades :(

Agent_Katarn00
08-30-2008, 03:44 PM
I'm going to post some more screens soon :)

DarthPhae
08-31-2008, 07:17 PM
Why don't you just do this mod for JA? It would solve your problem with Boc, and you would also have a lot more models to work with.

Agent_Katarn00
08-31-2008, 09:02 PM
We cant do it for JA.
For one thing i dont have JA,
and also i dont know all about editing ja.
Also,just one problem that could effect the mod so much i will have to do it for another game is too much for
just a mod.:)

DarthPhae
08-31-2008, 10:19 PM
Editing JA is pretty much the same as editing JO. Of course it doesn't help much if you don't have the game...

Agent_Katarn00
09-01-2008, 12:26 AM
I'm almost done with my kyle skin :)

Inyri
09-01-2008, 12:34 AM
You don't need to keep posting updates every ten minutes unless you actually have something to show. Wait to post an update until you have some kind of visual update, or at least include some information.

Agent_Katarn00
09-01-2008, 02:27 AM
Okay...
Thanks for the advice.:bot2:
But here's the kyle skin i think i'm done :)
http://www.lucasforums.com/picture.php?albumid=197&pictureid=1661

Inyri
09-01-2008, 02:34 AM
My advice: lighten his hair color (it was much browner in DF2 than in JO) and also he really needs to look younger. He's losing more than a handful of years between JO and DF2. This (http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y278/JiggityJohn/favorites/star%20wars%20images/421px-Rebelagent.jpg) is actually a very good reference for the Dark Forces 2 era Kyle.

Agent_Katarn00
09-01-2008, 03:14 AM
Thanks,Inyri!:D
I will be updating it time by time,but i have no intention on changing the model in the 1st release.Just to let you know.
Once my computer is cleaned up i will be able to do more...

DarthPhae
09-01-2008, 10:43 AM
He's not bad. There are a few things that should be fixed. First off his shirt needs to be brighted up a bit, along with his hair like Inyri said. Also his shoulder pad could use some changes, it's a little too dark for one thing. Overall though it's pretty nice Katarn00. Good job. ;)

Agent_Katarn00
09-01-2008, 12:27 PM
Well i'm trying to make kyle from the cut-scenes so i think the shirt is fine in my opinion.:)

M@RS
09-01-2008, 12:33 PM
I think you did a good job, just lighten the hair up just a tad bit. And, personally I think you should lighten up his eye color too.

Agent_Katarn00
09-01-2008, 12:50 PM
Thanks for all your help guys:D
Glad you are helping me out with this kind of stuff so i can get it as good i can get.
I start school tommorrow:firemad: so progress will be a tad slower but i will be doing as much as i can with free time.

DarthPhae
09-01-2008, 01:35 PM
Well i'm trying to make kyle from the cut-scenes so i think the shirt is fine in my opinion.:)
No trust me, the shirt is a bit lighter in the cut-scenes then the one we see in JO and JA.

M@RS
09-01-2008, 01:38 PM
I'm currently uploading my trando skin to JK3files :D I'll give you a link as soon as possible ;)

Agent_Katarn00
09-01-2008, 01:41 PM
Cool.:D
Good luck,hope you get a good review.:)

M@RS
09-01-2008, 01:43 PM
Me too.

okay it's up to the staff at JK3files *crosses fingers nervously*

Agent_Katarn00
09-01-2008, 04:40 PM
Here's the HUD i'll be using for the mod.
Please note that i will be changing the force bar to a different color soon :)
http://www.lucasforums.com/picture.php?albumid=197&pictureid=1668

M@RS
09-01-2008, 04:44 PM
So what will this mod do exactly? Will it completely convert the game, or just change the hud, character, ect.?

Agent_Katarn00
09-01-2008, 05:17 PM
Well it is planned and semi-official total conversion.
New,levels,skins,models,etc will be included in the mod or something really big comes up during progress that could change that.
But i'm planning to officialy make it a total conversion ;)

Inyri
09-01-2008, 05:28 PM
New,levels,skins,models,etcOh? Who's your mapper and modeler, or are you learning these skills? :)

Agent_Katarn00
09-01-2008, 05:37 PM
Well i'm learning it along the way,i'm kind of testing my skills in this mod and gaining experience with modding.I know a bit about mapping and texturing.
The problem is that my computer is not letting any of the editing tools run.
It started just now.But hopefully it will work when my computer is cleaned up.;)
I am not planning on making any new models in the first version.
If anything i will be borrowing models from people.;)

M@RS
09-01-2008, 05:44 PM
Here's my trando :D

http://jediknight3.filefront.com/file/Assassin_Trando;93621x#1627464

I'll be changing a couple of things, so just hang in there ;)

Inyri
09-01-2008, 06:06 PM
If anything i will be borrowing models from people.;)You will be asking them first, right?

Agent_Katarn00
09-01-2008, 06:27 PM
Yes,i will be asking for permission and the right to edit them if i have to.
If not i will use what i have.:)

GeneralPloKoon
09-04-2008, 10:09 PM
Looking good! I love JO and have never played Dark Forces II, the only Jedi Knight game I haven't played.

Agent_Katarn00
09-15-2008, 05:10 PM
Here's the DF2 kyle skin it's done :D
I used DT's model but all textures were edited or made by me :)
http://www.lucasforums.com/picture.php?albumid=197&pictureid=1824
Any comments for this update?

M@RS
09-15-2008, 05:14 PM
Not bad, and this is the cut-scene Kyle, yes?

Agent_Katarn00
09-15-2008, 05:16 PM
Not bad, and this is the cut-scene Kyle, yes?
Yep:)

Forceboat
09-15-2008, 05:50 PM
Hey Agent,

I wanted to show you a neat looking Kyle you might want to ask the author about using the textures from. It's by DarthPhae. I wanted to post the link for you to look at it to see what you thought.

http://jediknight3.filefront.com/file/Dark_Forces_II_Kyle;93686

Agent_Katarn00
09-15-2008, 05:57 PM
Actually that won't be neccesary,the torso textures wouldn't work with the model,and I just like the whole skin itself.
No offense Phae :(
But i found the links to the last df2mod's texture page :D
Since idon't know how to get the raw textures from jedi knight i found their texture page with MOST of the df2 textures.
http://shamusworld.gotdns.org/cgi-bin/textures.cgi

Pwnzor326
09-20-2008, 07:10 PM
Are you guys gonna put the DF2 cutscenes in the mod? Is it even possible?

M@RS
09-20-2008, 08:49 PM
I don't know... That's a good question...

Agent_Katarn00
09-20-2008, 09:27 PM
Are you guys gonna put the DF2 cutscenes in the mod? Is it even possible?
It is possible to use the cut-scenes.The SMACK files will have to be coverted to roq files.:words:
That's actually one of my biggest concerns,I don't know how to make ROQs:drop2:
If anybody could tell me anything about converting:confused:
I'm really dedicated to this mod and don't wanna give up:urpdude:

nizwiz
09-21-2008, 04:59 AM
'Cause it's possible technically. The question is if it's possible legally.

BTW:
Official roq encoder (ftp://ftp.idsoftware.com/idstuff/quake3/tools/roq.zip)
Quake Video Maker (http://www.swift-tools.net/Quake/QVM/)

As for decoding SMACK files, however, I don't know anything off the top of my head.

Agent_Katarn00
09-21-2008, 11:17 AM
Thanks nizwiz,i'm defenatly using quake video maker.That means new videos of all the cut-scenes in jedi outcast form!:)

jedimike2234
09-21-2008, 01:27 PM
i think you should get in contact with darkstarmojo about this,he spoke about this in a thread but this was time ago.and while he had the files for the cutscenes already to go ,if i remember correctly ,the player would have a large download to do just for the cutscenes alone.and he spoke about doing the cutscenes using the game engine,the way they were done in both outcast and jka.
i would like to see the original fmv scenes but as dsm said its almost too much to download.see how he extracted them,maybe he could shed some light on this.

Agent_Katarn00
09-22-2008, 12:00 AM
Well here is some light :D
The kyle is done!
http://www.lucasforums.com/picture.php?albumid=197&pictureid=1966

M@RS
09-22-2008, 12:19 AM
Huh, not bad... But, I think the brown thingy on his pants is on his shirt not his pants...

Bomberman65
09-22-2008, 01:03 AM
No thats part of his belt. If you look Jason Court (the actor who plays Kyle) with the belt on you'll clearly see that part of the belt.
I'm too lazy to get a reference pic at the moment.
But Katarn00 if you need any pics for reference let me know I've got tons of JK, JO and JA pics. Oh and I'm pretty good at editing music aswell. If any of those skills will hep ya let me know.

jedimike2234
09-22-2008, 03:29 PM
the kyle model is looking real good!:D
it looks just like it did in the cutscenes,it was a bit of jarring when you get in game and he had a white shirt.but again it looks real good.

Agent_Katarn00
09-22-2008, 05:36 PM
Thanks again,the skin job was done all by me.:D
But i would be glad from halp from anybody :D
Just send me a visitor message:)
I'm going to make the sarris skin real soon...

GeneralPloKoon
09-22-2008, 06:35 PM
Is that bushier hair? I like it.

Lord Darth Vader
09-25-2008, 04:57 AM
I know where is some completed JK1 duel maps for JO, look on there http://www.massassi.net/ (they could be used if permission asked from authors)

Agent_Katarn00
09-25-2008, 09:12 PM
Thanks dude,maybe i could use some:)
My GTK radiant is not working on both of my computers:(

Agent_Katarn00
10-19-2008, 10:54 PM
I have an announcement to make,as a gift for those who are waiting for things out of the mod i will be releasing a skin pack for the mod.I will be making a new kyle (again:( )
because of the model permission thing going on.Hope you forgive me because of that.Since my computer is having some trouble and needs new virus software it will take not long but longer than normal.Hope you guys are proud of the announcement.
(The first release of the skinpack will be a BETA version so i can have a second opinion on everthing;) )

CrisG
10-24-2008, 11:08 PM
interesting to see this project underway. with the conversion for DF this will be an interesting addtion.

GwannaSauna
10-31-2008, 03:05 PM
Are you guys going to make a Jerec, too?

Agent_Katarn00
11-01-2008, 05:24 PM
Are you guys going to make a Jerec, too?
Defenitly.
I am planning at making these in the skin pack:
Jerec,Kyle,Yun,Jan.
Sorrry for the delay too,been buy with Halloween....:)
Also a different kyle yet again will be made by me,i have sorted it out and i will not be able to use DT's model under the circumstances. Really Sorry.:(

Agent_Katarn00
02-15-2009, 04:15 PM
We're back,school has been tough for all of us but we are making slow progress.
Darth Phae has made a great main menu and soon after school is not a delay we should be doing faster progress and having less tech problems.
Stay tuned for any more news :)!
P.S.
Sorry for the extra post haven't posted in a while so i didn't know i was the last one.... :lol:

P.S.S


I also made some concept-like-art it's not that great but it's just something to share with the rest of team since it's giving me an idea for what katarn is going to look like...
http://www.lucasforums.com/picture.php?albumid=197&pictureid=2939

Here's also a pic of jerec & Maw:

http://www.lucasforums.com/picture.php?albumid=197&pictureid=2942

P.S.S.S.

Here's my progress so far with kyle...
http://www.lucasforums.com/picture.php?albumid=197&pictureid=2949