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Darth Eclipse
09-24-2008, 08:58 PM
I was just wondering if everyone thinks underwater battles are a good idea. I like the idea of it. Like it could be underwater on Naboo and the CIS could be attcking the Gungan City, so there would be some dry land fighting also.

GeneralPloKoon
09-24-2008, 09:19 PM
I'd like it, I remember on the Clone Wars cartoon on Mon Calamari the space battle. But not very many levels though.

Darth Eclipse
09-24-2008, 09:50 PM
Yeah, I REALLY hope they have at least a few underwater battles.

M@RS
09-25-2008, 12:25 AM
I think this is a great idea... I'd love to have an underwater battle, and I'd like to be able to swim this time... That's one thing that bothers me in SWBF2, you can't swim... You just walk at the bottom and drown...

Darth Eclipse
09-25-2008, 08:45 AM
Yeah, but the CIS shouldn't be able to go anywhere underwater besides in a vehicle and inside whatever other base is underwater.

Bokken
09-25-2008, 01:18 PM
The CIS already don't drown or suffocate. There should be a special class that can go outside of bases, but only that one class.

Maveritchell
09-26-2008, 03:52 PM
The CIS already don't drown or suffocate.

Uh, wrong? Any unit (except droidekas - possibly, because of a special droideka-only parameter) takes damage underwater. And there's no such thing as "suffocation" - Polis Massa just has a damage region set up so that droid healthtypes don't take damage.

But I for one would love to see some real water - right now all we have is a glorified hardcoded damage region.

Ping
09-26-2008, 04:18 PM
I think at Gametoast there's and underwater battle map you can download. I tried it out and thought is was good, but the jetpacks don't work well for some reason.

LordOfTheFish
09-26-2008, 05:46 PM
Nice idea DE. I would play it.

M@RS
09-26-2008, 07:15 PM
I think at Gametoast there's and underwater battle map you can download. I tried it out and thought is was good, but the jetpacks don't work well for some reason.

Ooh, could you give a link?

LordOfTheFish
09-26-2008, 09:42 PM
I think at Gametoast there's and underwater battle map you can download. I tried it out and thought is was good, but the jetpacks don't work well for some reason.

Are you serious?



M@RS: I'll visit the site again, soon.

GeneralPloKoon
09-26-2008, 11:53 PM
Uh, wrong? Any unit (except droidekas - possibly, because of a special droideka-only parameter) takes damage underwater. And there's no such thing as "suffocation" - Polis Massa just has a damage region set up so that droid healthtypes don't take damage.

But I for one would love to see some real water - right now all we have is a glorified hardcoded damage region.

Last time I checked, if the Clone Wars cartoon was canon, droids don't suffocate underwater...

M@RS
09-27-2008, 12:09 AM
M@RS: I'll visit the site again, soon.

Thank You :D

Ping
09-27-2008, 01:34 PM
Okay, since one of you guys asked for a link this is the download location here (http://www.gametoast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=11775)

Scoll down and click on the link to download. Have fun!

Darth Eclipse
09-27-2008, 11:14 PM
I wish I could play it. I have it for Xbox...

M@RS
09-27-2008, 11:55 PM
Okay, since one of you guys asked for a link this is the download location here (http://www.gametoast.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=11775)

Scroll down and click on the link to download. Have fun!

Thanks :)

GeneralPloKoon
09-28-2008, 02:32 PM
Is that for BF2?

Ping
09-28-2008, 04:03 PM
If it wasn't for BF2, I'd say it. Since I didn't say that, it is for BF2.

Oh yeah, how do you guys like the map?

M@RS
09-28-2008, 04:23 PM
It's nice, but the jetpacks aren't very good... It wasn't how I thought it'd be, but it's still fun :p

Ping
09-29-2008, 10:24 PM
I know how you feel about the jetpacks - maybe they short circuit underwater :lol:. I also think that cp 1 (I think) is not capturable; I think the creator did this so there would be Quarren to fight (since the Quarren spawn from there).

Darth Eclipse
09-30-2008, 09:43 PM
Are there any videos on Youtube that show that map? It sounds pretty cool...I really wish I could play it...

LordOfTheFish
09-30-2008, 10:38 PM
Please, don't rub it in...

M@RS
09-30-2008, 10:52 PM
^ What are you talking about?

Darth Eclipse
10-01-2008, 08:04 PM
Yeah, really...What ARE you talking about???

LordOfTheFish
10-04-2008, 12:12 AM
Please don't rub in the fact that you guys have live (or you just play the pc version) and I don't.

Darth Eclipse
10-04-2008, 06:46 PM
I only have the Xbox Star Wars Battlefront. I sold my Xbox and now have an Xbox 360. I HAVE a good PC, I just don't have many PC games.

Theone Thewayne
10-05-2008, 02:24 PM
I think the underwater lvls should be like a spacebattle in BFII.

LordOfTheFish
10-05-2008, 03:27 PM
You mean like when Obi and Qui-gon go to the planet core on Naboo?

jawathehutt
10-05-2008, 07:15 PM
I think the underwater lvls should be like a spacebattle in BFII.

what, slow, empty feeling and completely reliant on bombers?

LordOfTheFish
10-05-2008, 08:12 PM
Water gets shallow, why would it have to be in only deep water? What if a land level had an area where you fought underwater.

GeneralPloKoon
10-06-2008, 08:51 PM
Such as Mon Calamari! Republic starts on the Cruisers on the surface and the CIS are in the Quarren outpost.

LordOfTheFish
10-07-2008, 06:07 PM
Precisely what I meant. Kinda like that episode of the original Clone Wars TV series.

Darth Eclipse
10-10-2008, 08:06 PM
I will be even more happy to buy SWBF III if it has underwater battles, that would be so cool!!!

Maveritchell
10-11-2008, 01:09 PM
Last time I checked, if the Clone Wars cartoon was canon, droids don't suffocate underwater...

I was talking about a game mechanic, not about what showed up in a TV show.

Theone Thewayne
11-24-2008, 08:47 AM
What I mean is two giant command posts and underwater vehicles who are generelly fighting each other. Maybe you could add some underwater tunnels for some man to man combat...

Darth Eclipse
02-20-2009, 11:09 AM
I'll be happy if Star Wars Battlefront III at least comes out...

Rinku
02-21-2009, 11:05 PM
Such as Mon Calamari! Republic starts on the Cruisers on the surface and the CIS are in the Quarren outpost.

Kit Fisto would have to be the republic hero obviously. Also there could have scuba-troopers, which would be awesome!!

M@RS
02-22-2009, 01:09 AM
I'd like scuba-troopers... :D That'd be awesome... :)


I'll be happy if Star Wars Battlefront III at least comes out...

Real quick in your sig... It gives a link and says to sign up to give you points? What can you do with those points?

LordOfTheFish
02-22-2009, 01:56 AM
Gawd people are getting bad at bumping these days... I had no idea anyone still cared about this idea.

Redtech
02-25-2009, 07:02 PM
Ain't a fan of it TBH, BF1 had the K.I.S.S principle. Fighting in 3 dimensions would just overcomplicate matters!

TSR
02-25-2009, 07:10 PM
Keep it short and sweet ftw.

Just like your visits to these forums redtech :p

Ever heard of COBRA Sales + Marketing?

@LordOfTheFish- Gotta do what you can to keep these boards alive bro. Seeing as there isn't anything new to start a thread with, may as well expand on some old but slightly interesting ones until something new leaks out.

Redtech
03-02-2009, 08:27 AM
COBRA sales? Sounds like GI Joe's worst enemy!

You know what I want? BF3 to kick Killzone's arse. Could you imagine a dark shooter that has a style like that? I'd have a heart attack seeing an SBD with that kind of hardware.

And no Jedi plzthx.

jawathehutt
03-02-2009, 05:08 PM
And no Jedi plzthx.

qft

GeneralPloKoon
03-02-2009, 09:11 PM
And no Jedi plzthx.

Indeed.

Bokken
03-03-2009, 01:21 AM
I think we've all agreed that Jedi detract from the original purpose and fun of the game.

Redtech
03-03-2009, 01:01 PM
I think we've all agreed that Jedi detract from the original purpose and fun of the game.
It's a point that still needs to be forced (pardon the pun!)

joesdomain
03-04-2009, 07:37 PM
No underwater battles in my opinion. Keep it land battles, air battles and space battles. Unless you talk about walking through swamps, lakes, rivers then that is cool.

Darth Eclipse
03-13-2009, 02:37 PM
I like having heroes in the game to play as. Why don't you guys?

I don't like the SWBF 1 heroes though. Those were awful.

Redtech
03-13-2009, 04:24 PM
I like having heroes in the game to play as. Why don't you guys?

I don't like the SWBF 2 heroes though. Those were awful.
Corrected.

The thing is, that SWBF is a SHOOTER GAME!
That's right.

Guns.
Shooting.
Jawas.

You play as a no-name grunt, fighting no name grunts in the Star Wars Universe. Do you know how many games exist that have you playing as a Jedi and pwning? Almost all. Why can't the other aspects of the universe be depicted in a reasonably interesting way. Hell, Republic Commando was so popular that it got a book trilogy.

Other games show Jedi in a far more interesting light rather than "hold down the attack button and kill people by walking into them". Force Unleashed and KOTOR are particularly spectacular examples, and in BF2 especially they stand out and dominate far too easily, to the point that it feels more like I'm waiting to take my turn as Darth Maul, rather than concentrating or caring about learning to play properly.

As for non-jedi heros, they're amusing, but they're not interesting enough to really make a difference compared to getting the elite weapons(and I'm discounting General Asthma in this argument) and they're more fanservice than anything IMHO.

What I really want to see is the K.I.S.S principle taken to a logical conclusion: make a game indepth not by adding complication, but by making the individual classes all the more satisfying to play as.

GeneralPloKoon
03-14-2009, 12:56 AM
I like having heroes in the game to play as. Why don't you guys?

I don't like the SWBF 1 heroes though. Those were awful.

Every Star Wars game these days happen to have a lighsaber in it. Jedi don't have to be everywhere, we are meant to play as grunts.

Bokken
03-14-2009, 12:25 PM
If you want lightsaber combat, there are tons of other games. If you want Jedi vs. Infantry action, there's SWBF2. You can just stick to that once SWBF3 comes out.

Darth Eclipse
04-28-2009, 07:34 PM
Corrected.

The thing is, that SWBF is a SHOOTER GAME!
That's right.

Guns.
Shooting.
Jawas.

You play as a no-name grunt, fighting no name grunts in the Star Wars Universe. Do you know how many games exist that have you playing as a Jedi and pwning? Almost all. Why can't the other aspects of the universe be depicted in a reasonably interesting way. Hell, Republic Commando was so popular that it got a book trilogy.

Other games show Jedi in a far more interesting light rather than "hold down the attack button and kill people by walking into them". Force Unleashed and KOTOR are particularly spectacular examples, and in BF2 especially they stand out and dominate far too easily, to the point that it feels more like I'm waiting to take my turn as Darth Maul, rather than concentrating or caring about learning to play properly.

As for non-jedi heros, they're amusing, but they're not interesting enough to really make a difference compared to getting the elite weapons(and I'm discounting General Asthma in this argument) and they're more fanservice than anything IMHO.

What I really want to see is the K.I.S.S principle taken to a logical conclusion: make a game indepth not by adding complication, but by making the individual classes all the more satisfying to play as.

I don't like SWBF 1 heroes because they were almost invincible.

M@RS
04-29-2009, 12:17 AM
I don't believe SWBF 1 had playable Heroes.

LordJhredmo
04-29-2009, 02:09 AM
It didn't. I felt it was best just to pretend he didn't post... -_-

Bokken
04-29-2009, 11:22 AM
True, only the AI could get them, but they were still very hard to kill.

Darth Eclipse
05-16-2009, 09:06 AM
I don't believe SWBF 1 had playable Heroes.

I never said they had playable heroes in SWBF 1! I said that they were almost invincible (and they are) but I never once mentioned them being playable.

M@RS
05-16-2009, 12:36 PM
I never said they had playable heroes in SWBF 1! I said that they were almost invincible (and they are) but I never once mentioned them being playable.

Who said I was quoting or even talking to you?

Darth Eclipse
05-24-2009, 05:59 PM
Who said I was quoting or even talking to you?

Good point... :D

CrownStar
06-01-2009, 11:15 AM
Water gets shallow, why would it have to be in only deep water? What if a land level had an area where you fought underwater.

That would be nice if that happened, actually. Because I can see if it's solely underwater, things can get empty and a bit boring in the long run, like the space battles from BF II. So I like that idea of land and water combined. But maybe underwater there would be only a couple of CP's, so that the battle would be balanced instead of people focusing solely on land only...or water only.

LordOfTheFish
06-01-2009, 12:22 PM
The only problem with this is that the clones, empire, and rebel factions cant breath underwater, and I doubt the droids could function that well. They would need to design a new unit with a breath mask that could play on both water and land terrains.

CrownStar
06-01-2009, 12:25 PM
Yeah, some Unit that could. And I wouldn't suggest they make vehicles for traversing underwater. If they do that then the place shouldn’t be at all that large. If one side is larger than the other, one side will attract more attention either way.

Bokken
06-01-2009, 01:16 PM
All they really have to do is reskin the units to make them aquatic and say that they have mouthpieces.

Darth Eclipse
07-24-2009, 04:13 PM
All they really have to do is reskin the units to make them aquatic and say that they have mouthpieces.

Yeah lol.

jondavis
07-29-2009, 05:01 PM
This is why the game needs other playing kinds.
Mon Calamari and Gungans can breath under water or at least stay under much longer then humans. Underwater playing would make a great escape when someone is chasing you.
There are many underwater vehicles also but most of them are not Empire or Republic ships.
I'm for it but we might need a cool under water battle in the Clone Wars or something to show us some weapons to fight with.