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MysticSpade
04-03-2009, 12:35 AM
well to day i got some terrible news as i went to play a ranked match with the #1 in points on one of my main games *cough*Street Fighter 4*cough*. So as i turn it on my 360 locks up on the logo screen bout 3 times. The fourth one BAM RRoD. I was like WTF!?!?

No here's the sad part, i can literrally repair a RRoD 360 in bout an hour with LITERRALLY 8 cents. But since my system is under warranty i figured i will send it back, and get a new one while i can. I have the newest model too where they supposedly fixed the problem but i guess not. Its just a poor design flaw on the mother board. why would you put Ram chips on the underside of the board with heat absorbing pads on them, while being put in a place with utterly no airflow. its just dumb



/end rant

PR-0927
04-03-2009, 12:39 AM
Literally has one "r."

- PR-0927

BongoBob
04-03-2009, 12:42 AM
Literally has one "r."

- PR-0927

And PR-0927 has one f, one a, one i, and one l.

EDIT: Back on topic, sucks man. Mine died right as a bunch of awesome DLC for RB2 decided to come out.

TiE23
04-03-2009, 12:44 AM
Sorry dude, but bitching about RRoD stopped being cool about 6 months ago. It happens to everybody. You may have only one, you may have six. It's all just tough ****.

ET Warrior
04-03-2009, 12:50 AM
Sorry dude, but bitching about RRoD stopped being cool about 6 months ago. It happens to everybody. You may have only one, you may have six. It's all just tough ****.

Indeed. I've had 3 360's, and all 3 have red ringed on me. I have a couple of friends who've never had a red ring. Meh.

IG-64
04-03-2009, 12:54 AM
*raises hand*

Thankfully it was only because it was plugged into a surge protector and plugging it straight into the wall made it work again.

MysticSpade
04-03-2009, 01:36 AM
i was pretty lucky haven't had one before today. close calls yes but never full thing. it happens thats what warranties are for not too big a deal.

PR-0927
04-03-2009, 02:03 AM
And PR-0927 has one f, one a, one i, and one l.

EDIT: Back on topic, sucks man. Mine died right as a bunch of awesome DLC for RB2 decided to come out.


Geez, I was just trying to be a douche.

Yes, I've had one RRoD, it sucked. It's actually due largely to cheaply made GPUs with poor cooling solutions. Microsoft revealed this all many months ago.

- PR-0927

RoxStar
04-03-2009, 02:11 AM
I got a rarer 1/4 of a circle of death :p

Happened about 3 days after Christmas. When I had new games. And renewed my Gold. And had time off.

Oh well. MS was good about it.

BongoBob
04-03-2009, 02:54 AM
Geez, I was just trying to be a douche.

Yes, I've had one RRoD, it sucked. It's actually due largely to cheaply made GPUs with poor cooling solutions. Microsoft revealed this all many months ago.

- PR-0927

You don't need to put effort into that.

ET Warrior
04-03-2009, 02:55 AM
Now now kids, let us strive to get along.

Q
04-03-2009, 04:24 AM
My SNES still works. :p

Mandalorian54
04-03-2009, 05:27 AM
My first gen 360 lasted four years, when it died my buddie was working at a game shop so he swapped it for a bran new one. My brother's first gen PS3 died in just over two years.

My 360 kept working even after the rings of death.

So they wouldn't fix your xbox, are you still going to fix it for 8 cents in an hour?

IG-64
04-03-2009, 05:53 AM
My SNES still works. :p
Mine broke a few months ago during hurricane Ike. :(
The little plastic piece that holds the power cord in place broke off, and there was no way to fix it.

Good thing we replaced it with a 3-pack from EBay. :)

I was a little sad that it had to be replaced, since it lasted so long, but it wasn't even the original one I got for Christmas '94, since we had to give that one away due to my dad thinking I had epilepsy or something. :indif:

EnderWiggin
04-03-2009, 06:36 AM
My NES and SNES bit the dust long ago...

I still have my original working N64 from Christmas '96 though :)

_EW_

Samnmax221
04-03-2009, 07:34 AM
I've never had a RROD in the 2 years I've had my 360.

jon_hill987
04-03-2009, 08:58 AM
My SEGA Master System still works. (Colours look a bit washed out though)

Jeff
04-03-2009, 12:26 PM
I don't want to say anything about my 360 lest I jinx it. :x

My PSone does not work anymore, didn't do anything to break it, it just won't work. Pretty sure my Genesis still works though.

TiE23
04-03-2009, 01:39 PM
My Wii still works... mostly cause I haven't turn it on since December.

Though in all seriousness it can't read my Wii Sports disc anymore despite it having a very acceptable amount of wear. Broke my family's heart when we tried to play some bowling... : (

Jeff
04-03-2009, 02:02 PM
That sucks TiE. I actually forgot to mention this in my post before, my original Wii did die within probably 6 months of owning it, got it a week after launch. Just booted it up one day and there was no video and the remote wouldn't sync. Sent it to Ninty, they had to send me a completely new one so lost all my save data including my completed Twilight Princess :( but got to redownload all my VC games.

GeneralPloKoon
04-03-2009, 02:21 PM
My 360 got the RRoD a month ago and after sending in my repair request a month ago, I still haven't received a box to put it in. I am slowly switching over to the Playstation side. Their consoles last longer than Nintendo's and Microsoft's. The PSOne was in production from 1994 to 2006. The PS2 is still lasting and its nine years old. And the PS3 is expected to last at least 10 years.

swphreak
04-03-2009, 05:24 PM
I can't remember how many 360s I've gone through. It's at least 3 or so. If it breaks again, I'm gonna go Office Space on it, and buy one of them supposedly "fixed" versions.

My Wii was DOA (on xmas day), and had to be shipped off for repair.

BongoBob
04-03-2009, 05:25 PM
My 360 got the RRoD a month ago and after sending in my repair request a month ago, I still haven't received a box to put it in. I am slowly switching over to the Playstation side. Their consoles last longer than Nintendo's and Microsoft's. The PSOne was in production from 1994 to 2006. The PS2 is still lasting and its nine years old. And the PS3 is expected to last at least 10 years.

Call em up and ask em "WTF Mates?"

My coffin arrived 3 days after I put in a request.

TiE23
04-04-2009, 12:03 AM
My 360 got the RRoD a month ago and after sending in my repair request a month ago, I still haven't received a box to put it in. I am slowly switching over to the Playstation side. Their consoles last longer than Nintendo's and Microsoft's. The PSOne was in production from 1994 to 2006. The PS2 is still lasting and its nine years old. And the PS3 is expected to last at least 10 years.
I swear I've been reading somewhere that some people apparently don't get boxes or something... you may wanna contact someone cause it's obviously not just stuck in the mail.

Just imagine how much better the 360 would be doing if the RRoD never existed...

Darth Groovy
04-04-2009, 12:46 AM
No most people when they get the RRoD just call the local GameStop and bitch in our ear about how they had to talk to some Indian guy with a bad accent, and most of the time they are enraged that we don't do repair work. Some people refuse to even bother with it. They just throw it away and buy and arcade system. Must be nice to be made out of money. :rolleyes:

I am on second 360. I didn't even get MY 360 until about a year AFTER they came out. They are great when they work, but the history of tech issues on this machine are far beyond acceptable.

MysticSpade
04-04-2009, 03:34 AM
i recieved my box to send it off in a weeks time. I am using the warranty this time but if it happens again totally using a rubber eraser or the 8 cents. now i just have my wii, modded PSP, HALO xbox.


@Groovy
luckily my customers in my area totally understand that we can't swap it out for them. But i am in a high class area, people drop a grand just cuz they can.

IG-64
04-04-2009, 05:38 AM
No most people when they get the RRoD just call the local GameStop and bitch in our ear about how they had to talk to some Indian guy with a bad accent, and most of the time they are enraged that we don't do repair work.
Wow... getting something like that repaired by the game store you bought it from... hasn't even crossed my mind. Where do people get these ideas?

Anthony
04-05-2009, 12:18 AM
Hay guise! Guess who HASNT got the RRoD yet?! THATS RIGHT

but thats because i never use the damn thing

TiE23
04-05-2009, 01:30 AM
Woot, mine overheated. I guess my 360 got pissed at me for ramping cars on the Firefly Beach in GTA4 for 20 minutes straight. Nice and toasty. Two lights on the left, baby.

*Edit*

Took the ol' air can to it, plenty of dust. Feel like I should take my 2.5hp shop-vac to it and see how much more dust comes out... but the 70+mph "breeze" that comes out of it might do more harm than good.

Commander Obi-Wan
04-05-2009, 04:16 AM
I'm waiting for my third 360 to come in. It went out last December and like a week ago, I finally sent it in. It took like 2 days to get it sent. Meh. I've done fine without it for the past 4 months, but I figured it was about to time to get it back while I still can, free of charge.

Darth Avlectus
04-06-2009, 02:45 AM
well to day i got some terrible news as i went to play a ranked match with the #1 in points on one of my main games *cough*Street Fighter 4*cough*. So as i turn it on my 360 locks up on the logo screen bout 3 times. The fourth one BAM RRoD. I was like WTF!?!?

No here's the sad part, i can literrally repair a RRoD 360 in bout an hour with LITERRALLY 8 cents. But since my system is under warranty i figured i will send it back, and get a new one while i can. I have the newest model too where they supposedly fixed the problem but i guess not. Its just a poor design flaw on the mother board. why would you put Ram chips on the underside of the board with heat absorbing pads on them, while being put in a place with utterly no airflow. its just dumb



/end rant

I think the whole warranty thing has been set up to be a real $$$-grab scheme. Not to mention their customer no-service is a hot steamin' pile of ****. You aren't allowed to modify the physical design WHATSOEVER.

It's a cheap design. Needless to say fragile.

I have ...some model, not sure what generation though. I'm the second owner. The first one took it to Iraq and totally fried the hard drive, got sand in it and everything. My pal in his batallion bought it for a whopping $25. Fixed all the little problems since it was out of warranty on some technical violation of terms...bought it a premium 120GB hard drive. So it has already been through hell. It was a gift from my pal.

I have not played it much since beating GTA4--little desire. I have gotten either a full or 1/4 RROD once playing through it. It does not like to recognize even its own game discs and is rather moody. It gets so hot I could cook an egg on it.

Indeed. I've had 3 360's, and all 3 have red ringed on me. I have a couple of friends who've never had a red ring. Meh.

Hmm. 3? What kinda $$$ you makin'? U an R&D engineer for some tech firm? Damn.


My SNES still works. :p

As do both of mine--one I saved up for and bought as a little kid. The other was a yard sale acquisition. I also have 9 NES units, 3 of which are fully functional, the rest I plan to fix up since I have discovered www.nesrepairshop.com. ;)


Why haven't you joined my retro gaming social group, then?

My NES and SNES bit the dust long ago...

I still have my original working N64 from Christmas '96 though :)

_EW_

I totally refer you to above (I believe both NES and SNES are covered)--drop me a line. I might even be able to help troubleshoot. Though I'd bet, seeing as how their designs are neat and modular, it would not take very much to troubleshoot and fix. I think Sam Goldwasser's repair briefs has even a little bit that can help you here. (http://repairfaq.ece.drexel.edu/sam/audiofaq.htm#audoninto)

BTW, I was also one of those lucky first crowds to get an N64 as well. ;)
Still works fine, and I occasionally catch a PD combat simulation now and then. Pwnage with the wrist laser on constant in one hit kills mode.

I can't remember how many 360s I've gone through. It's at least 3 or so. If it breaks again, I'm gonna go Office Space on it, and buy one of them supposedly "fixed" versions.

My Wii was DOA (on xmas day), and had to be shipped off for repair.

Damn, I ought to start collecting 360 corpses and reverse engineer them with a few of my buddies. Though it isn't as if it takes a thermodynamics or aerospace engineer to see the utterly stupid design flaws as pointed out above in the opening post....and perhaps fix them. Except that supposedly is huge no-no, even for out of warranty. Something about leaking proprietary info. Sounds like a load to me.


Woot, mine overheated. I guess my 360 got pissed at me for ramping cars on the Firefly Beach in GTA4 for 20 minutes straight. Nice and toasty. Two lights on the left, baby.

*Edit*

Took the ol' air can to it, plenty of dust. Feel like I should take my 2.5hp shop-vac to it and see how much more dust comes out... but the 70+mph "breeze" that comes out of it might do more harm than good.

Yes, I know exactly what you speaketh of on thy GTA4.

I've blow-cleaned mine with one of those cans plenty of times. It's just fine.
Though I didn't allow it to gather as much dust as it sounds like you did. Still...I don't see what all it could hurt if it's already acting funky. You consider ever making a manually adjusted current control to plug your vac into? Might be able to crank the speed and suction down to a "safe level".
...or just open the thing and meticulously blow clean every nook and cranny...

Keep in mind tho I'm the kind of guy who drags in junk to either repair or scrap for the parts ALL THE TIME. If I were married, I'm sure my wife would kill me for turning the bedroom into a repair shop.

MrWally
04-06-2009, 03:56 PM
My 360 got the RRoD a month ago and after sending in my repair request a month ago, I still haven't received a box to put it in. I am slowly switching over to the Playstation side. Their consoles last longer than Nintendo's and Microsoft's. The PSOne was in production from 1994 to 2006. The PS2 is still lasting and its nine years old. And the PS3 is expected to last at least 10 years.


I'm sorry, but the PS3 just doesn't have the vast selection of good games that I'm looking for in a console. Even the next Final Fantasies aren't exclusive.


Hay guise! Guess who HASNT got the RRoD yet?! THATS RIGHT

but thats because i never use the damn thing

Um . . . can I have yours?

EnderWiggin
04-06-2009, 04:50 PM
@GTA - Oh, my NES died in 1995. It started smoking one day so we decided it was time to get rid of it. SNES died soon thereafter... perhaps '97? Anyway, both are long thrown away.

Thanks though :)

_EW_

TiE23
04-06-2009, 06:40 PM
Yes, I know exactly what you speaketh of on thy GTA4.

I've blow-cleaned mine with one of those cans plenty of times. It's just fine.
Though I didn't allow it to gather as much dust as it sounds like you did. Still...I don't see what all it could hurt if it's already acting funky. You consider ever making a manually adjusted current control to plug your vac into? Might be able to crank the speed and suction down to a "safe level".
...or just open the thing and meticulously blow clean every nook and cranny...


Err... my dad has an IKEA light dimmer sliding-switch for his night stand... would that work? :V

Darth Avlectus
04-07-2009, 12:26 AM
Err... my dad has an IKEA light dimmer sliding-switch for his night stand... would that work? :V

IKEA? Not sure--I pull that up to see several little products...not sure...Can it handle HUGE currents? I would say NO right off the bat... at least until I knew more about your device. That is essentially what I'm talking about I suppose. You could buy a variable autotransformer or "Variac" from ebay or an electrical supply house which may just be simpler. It's a bit expensive but you'd be surprised just how useful one of these suckers can be to have around.

The easiest might be to, say, find an outlet controlled by a dimmer switch I suppose. Not sure if it controls current or voltage, it depends on the particular dimmer. I think most go for voltage. Decreasing either voltage or current will decrease its power. Just mind you, it (the Vacuum) may have a cutoff at a certain low point where it'll refuse to work or it could malfunction. I don't really think it'll hurt things--it's a vacuum and hence an AC motor which aren't very finicky.

I'm looking at the diagrams I have for AC motor control and they appear to control voltage instead of current. Either one would work I think. You could scavenge a varistor out of a dead microwave of the turn knob variety if you wanted to build this thing from scratch...as a start... I wouldn't want this all to turn into an expensive and/or complex project just to clean your machine, just thought you might have parts or outlets handy. (I have a workshop in my room :xp:)

Maybe I'm jumping ahead of myself for what I'm thinking: are you good with a soldering iron? Can you read schematic diagrams? Have you done even minor electrical work?...PM me or VM me if you are still curious to follow it up, but a word of warning, yer gonna have to get your hands dirty if you're determined...

It might be easier just to ghetto rig it, use the Vac and maybe filter the blower with your hand and perhaps some rags to slow down airflow significantly... Whatever you think necessary for your machine's well being.

Jus thought I'd offer help... somehow.


EDIT: maybe a hair dryer on cool mode? A common small blower device? Something like that???

TiE23
04-07-2009, 01:47 AM
IKEA? Not sure--I pull that up to see several little products...not sure...Can it handle HUGE currents? I would say NO right off the bat... at least until I knew more about your device. That is essentially what I'm talking about I suppose. You could buy a variable autotransformer or "Variac" from ebay or an electrical supply house which may just be simpler. It's a bit expensive but you'd be surprised just how useful one of these suckers can be to have around.

The easiest might be to, say, find an outlet controlled by a dimmer switch I suppose. Not sure if it controls current or voltage, it depends on the particular dimmer. I think most go for voltage. Decreasing either voltage or current will decrease its power. Just mind you, it (the Vacuum) may have a cutoff at a certain low point where it'll refuse to work or it could malfunction. I don't really think it'll hurt things--it's a vacuum and hence an AC motor which aren't very finicky.

I'm looking at the diagrams I have for AC motor control and they appear to control voltage instead of current. Either one would work I think. You could scavenge a varistor out of a dead microwave of the turn knob variety if you wanted to build this thing from scratch...as a start... I wouldn't want this all to turn into an expensive and/or complex project just to clean your machine, just thought you might have parts or outlets handy. (I have a workshop in my room :xp:)

Maybe I'm jumping ahead of myself for what I'm thinking: are you good with a soldering iron? Can you read schematic diagrams? Have you done even minor electrical work?...PM me or VM me if you are still curious to follow it up, but a word of warning, yer gonna have to get your hands dirty if you're determined...

It might be easier just to ghetto rig it, use the Vac and maybe filter the blower with your hand and perhaps some rags to slow down airflow significantly... Whatever you think necessary for your machine's well being.

Jus thought I'd offer help... somehow.


EDIT: maybe a hair dryer on cool mode? A common small blower device? Something like that???

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Darth Groovy
04-07-2009, 03:40 AM
But i am in a high class area, people drop a grand just cuz they can.

Same here. I remember when I used to get excited on Easter, when I got a basket with a chocolate bunny, chocolate foil eggs and jelly beans. Now days the baskets come filled with consoles, games, and controllers. It's all good though I am enjoying the comp gains. ;)

MysticSpade
04-07-2009, 06:56 PM
at my store we are doin alright....Trade comps are a lil on the eh side. our weekly numbers sit around Res 55/Subs 40 where bout you fall in the mix?

saurumonk
04-07-2009, 10:50 PM
the RROD has nothing to do with what model ur system is bro; its the use of their whack ass plastic washers that get too hot and melt leaving the wires grounded...... replace them with metla washers and ur set for life without the BS from microsuck.

RoxStar
04-07-2009, 10:58 PM
The Red Ring Of Death has nothing to do with what model system you happen to own, friend. The real problem lies in the use of plastic washers that get exceptionally hot and melt, leaving the wires grounded. I suggest that you replace them with metal washers and then your system can enjoy a much greater lifespan without all the riff raff of having to send your console in for servicing to the blokes in Redmond.

Cheers, Saurumonk :)

Fix'd

MrWally
04-07-2009, 11:03 PM
At least his text isn't as colorful as a gay pride parade.

BongoBob
04-08-2009, 02:41 AM
the RROD has nothing to do with what model ur system is bro; its the use of their whack ass plastic washers that get too hot and melt leaving the wires grounded...... replace them with metla washers and ur set for life without the BS from microsuck.

No. GTFO. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.

This is the third time I've had to say this. It's getting annoying.

For the love of christ no-one listen to this man. It's so wrong that I don't even know where to begin.

The RRoD isn't caused by "whack ass plastic washers that get too hot and melt leaving the wires grounded." The RRoD is most commonly caused because of the crappy design of the X-Clamp that's used to keep the heatsinks on the GPU and CPU. It stresses the Motherboard and causes it to Warp, and the GPUs solder slowly loses it's connection to the motherboard.

TiE23
04-10-2009, 02:00 AM
You'd think a better X-Clamp would save Microsoft a few hundred million dollars...

MysticSpade
04-10-2009, 01:01 PM
i fixed my friends without replacing the x-clamp at all. just took off the heat absorbing pads off the ram chips and put rubber on them. they don't absorb heat, and space it better as well. his has been working fine for about 3 weeks now. i'm using it until my box gets back from MS.

Q
04-10-2009, 01:06 PM
I can't believe that after more than three years Microsoft still hasn't solved the 360's reliability problems.

On second thought, I can. :(

RoxStar
04-10-2009, 02:22 PM
I can't believe that after more than three years Microsoft still hasn't solved the 360's reliability problems.

On second thought, I can. :(


You can't believe that they haven't definitively fixed a vague hardware issue (RROD's are just general hardware faults), recalled every single machine ever sold and replaced them? :p

Q
04-10-2009, 02:36 PM
I can't believe that they haven't definitively determined the cause(s) for such a high percentage of hardware failures.

I have no beef with how they're compensating customers for it. If they wanted to be dicks about it, they could have just said "Tough. Buy another one," but they decided to step up instead. It just seems that they could save themselves a lot of money and their customers a lot of grief if they would just make an investment in completely redesigning the thing.

swphreak
04-10-2009, 05:46 PM
I have no beef with how they're compensating customers for it. If they wanted to be dicks about it, they could have just said "Tough. Buy another one," but they decided to step up instead.

That wouldn't have gone over real well. Class action lawsuits anyone?

I'm pretty sure it was cheaper to fix it for free under an extended warranty than to be sued by millions of people.

MysticSpade
04-11-2009, 06:19 PM
well i got my box back it literally took 4 days to process repair and get sent back to me. quite awesome really no my baby is back in my life, thought i was goin through withdrawls for a bit there....LoL

TiE23
04-11-2009, 11:42 PM
well i got my box back it literally took 4 days to process repair and get sent back to me. quite awesome really no my baby is back in my life, thought i was goin through withdrawls for a bit there....LoL

They've certainly seemed to have stepped their **** up. Mine died for the first time just about a year ago and it took probably just over a week for me. Glad to see that they don't take weeks like they used to. Also, replacement or fix?

Darth Avlectus
04-12-2009, 01:59 AM
Well, anyone here know what a peltier cooler device is? It's an electronic modular thing that, well, cools stuff. Or how about a large finned heat sink?
I know most of you probably don't give enough of a rats ass about this. However, you could pick up an oil transmission cooler or even a small radiator. A fluid pump. Maybe even just go to radio shack get their cpu cooler kit might eliminate most of this. Still, you'd need some additional parts. Get some fans, tubing..... drill some holes. I guess what I'm saying is if you're crafty, and willing to improvise and scrounge, you could make your own (very effective) cooling system if you don't take the unit anywhere with you. It would probably not cost near as much as a repair. Plus you wouldn't have to go inside it since it would be radiating cool and carrying heat away in large portions.

(shrug) Just tossing it out there for people with craftmanship skills who like to "mod" stuff.

You'd think a better X-Clamp would save Microsoft a few hundred million dollars...

Not really: it takes a bit of snaky plan and design, but they measure stuff 'just so'.

I mean, how often do you hear of stuff with guaranteed warranty which only lasts so long that companies are not willing to renew? They make/have made the fix it plans so that it dies out and not too long after, the product's major fault shows its ugly head.

I guess now it is being softened to flexible repairs which still costs them $$$, but maybe less in the long run.

This is the kind of stuff I'm sure the head honchos of companies brainstorm about. The "margin of profit" as it were.

Listen to Clark Howard on this kind of stuff. In fact, if you've got a story of stuff like this, he welcomes it. His show is one of "consumer empowerment".

I can't believe that after more than three years Microsoft still hasn't solved the 360's reliability problems.

On second thought, I can. :(
:lol: Margin of profit, my friend.

BongoBob
04-12-2009, 06:45 AM
Well, anyone here know what a peltier cooler device is? It's an electronic modular thing that, well, cools stuff. Or how about a large finned heat sink?
I know most of you probably don't give enough of a rats ass about this. However, you could pick up an oil transmission cooler or even a small radiator. A fluid pump. Maybe even just go to radio shack get their cpu cooler kit might eliminate most of this. Still, you'd need some additional parts. Get some fans, tubing..... drill some holes. I guess what I'm saying is if you're crafty, and willing to improvise and scrounge, you could make your own (very effective) cooling system if you don't take the unit anywhere with you. It would probably not cost near as much as a repair. Plus you wouldn't have to go inside it since it would be radiating cool and carrying heat away in large portions.

I'm guessing you mean water cooling (http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEVpZZAklllHlcrxQY.php) it.

MysticSpade
04-12-2009, 10:58 AM
They've certainly seemed to have stepped their **** up. Mine died for the first time just about a year ago and it took probably just over a week for me. Glad to see that they don't take weeks like they used to. Also, replacement or fix?


it was a fix all the numbers match my records.

RoxStar
04-12-2009, 12:27 PM
it was a fix all the numbers match my records.

Aren't you already in Texas though?

MysticSpade
04-12-2009, 08:25 PM
Aren't you already in Texas though?


yes the heart of it actually....Dallas TX

Darth Avlectus
04-14-2009, 12:05 AM
I'm guessing you mean water cooling (http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EEVpZZAklllHlcrxQY.php) it.

Yeah, actually. Though that atricle was knowledge I did not posess. Thanks! :thmbup1:

I guess, then, other macgyvers out there who have more time and $$$ to concentrate into their game consoles have even gone a bit deeper than I. Fascinating! This gets major + points from me. :)

BongoBob
04-14-2009, 04:32 AM
Yeah, actually. Though that atricle was knowledge I did not posess. Thanks! :thmbup1:

I guess, then, other macgyvers out there who have more time and $$$ to concentrate into their game consoles have even gone a bit deeper than I. Fascinating! This gets major + points from me. :)

Usually I do mean offense when it's pointed at you, but this time I don't. You really must not know anything of the console modding scene. Check that sites forums for some amazing Xbox 360 modifications.

Darth Avlectus
04-14-2009, 05:45 AM
True, console modding specifically, no. Various electronics, yes. I'm actually going off of general cooling circulation designs used for various other electronic stuff. But thanks. I will.

Lolwut? Trying to offend? Dude, it's an online forum. :laughing: Get a life.

BongoBob
04-14-2009, 04:13 PM
Lolwut? Trying to offend? Dude, it's an online forum. :laughing: Get a life.

I had one, but that s*** sucked.

EDIT: In other news...

Eat a bag of d***s Microsoft. (http://majornelson.com/archive/2009/04/14/xbox-360-warranty-extended-for-e74.aspx)

RoxStar
04-14-2009, 06:55 PM
EDIT: In other news...

Eat a bag of d***s Microsoft. (http://majornelson.com/archive/2009/04/14/xbox-360-warranty-extended-for-e74.aspx)

Isn't that a good thing??

BongoBob
04-14-2009, 07:00 PM
It's a good thing...if your 360 E74s from today on. If you're (like me) one that had it happen 5 months ago, maybe opened your console to fix it, or just flat out bought a new one, you'll be pissed.

Thankfully I just sent mine into MS anyways saying it RRoD on me, so I guess I shouldn't be pissed, but yeah. You have your 360 crap out on you a month after the warranty is over.

DarthAve
04-14-2009, 10:29 PM
Haven't RRoD's yet (knock on wood), but supernatural forces moved it when I was playing Mass Effect and ruined the disk before I could get Shepard and Liara to have some fun. =|

TiE23
04-15-2009, 03:09 PM
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Shepard.[/Wrex_Voice]