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Ten-Forward
08-04-2001, 09:44 PM
What will the GB's unit for houses be???or will we just have a limit on units...

JediMasterEd
08-04-2001, 09:45 PM
who knows

darthfergie
08-04-2001, 09:50 PM
a house.

JediMasterEd
08-04-2001, 09:51 PM
who knows?

darthfergie
08-04-2001, 09:57 PM
It WILL BE A HOUSE. Look at this link. In it is a photo of Gungan's Houses. All Civs have houses exept for the Trede Federation, but in exchange for the Feds having no houses they have decreased wood gathering.

darthfergie
08-04-2001, 09:58 PM
or really they call it Carbon...

darthfergie
08-04-2001, 10:00 PM
Here is that link
http://www.galacticbattles.com/multimedia/screenshots/18.jpg
The houses are under the water and are built not by Villigers, but by fishing ships.

Tie Guy
08-04-2001, 10:07 PM
I don't find that a very big advantage. It seems as though i'd rather have somehting else. But still, it is nice not to have to worry about houses, oh well.

JediMasterEd
08-04-2001, 10:15 PM
who knows

Darth_Rommel
08-04-2001, 10:31 PM
Jeez... people say my post are shallow and meaningless! edward: we all know that you don't know, now stop telling us that! ;)

darthfergie
08-04-2001, 11:12 PM
THANK YOU!!!!!!

Tie Guy
08-05-2001, 12:00 AM
Well, if you guys are finished posting meaningless stuff :D, i'd like to say this.....

Why does it really matter if a civ can build houses underwater? What real advantage does it give you? Wouldn't you rather just not have to build them at all?

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 12:03 AM
I wouldn't want to build them if it didn't mean the slowest Carbon gathering on the game.(unless you put in cheats;) )

Darth_Rommel
08-05-2001, 12:05 AM
Well, in the gungans case it is quite an advantage because as of yet they don't lose any advantage as th Trade Federation does with their bonus (slow wood)

I thought those houses were subs when I first saw the screenshot! :D

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 12:35 AM
I guess you could register that as the Gungan's third unique unit. (i.e.- Fambaa, Subs, Houses under water)

Lord JayVizIon
08-05-2001, 12:37 AM
put it this way, it will probably take up to TL2 or TL3 to get underwater units. therefore, building houses underwater probably means that it will take awhile for your opponent to reach the technology to raze them, giving you time and allowing you to focus on other micromanagement possibilities or raising an army, etc........

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 12:41 AM
Yes, but most likely Naval units can attack them and you can build a fighting naval unit (on AOK anyway) on Tech 2. Against Gungans we might have to just hold on and hopfully blockade their coasts to keep them down. I wonder if the Fambaa works on the Naval units too? That would not be goo for the attacking Wookie Navy...

Tie Guy
08-05-2001, 12:45 AM
That is a very good question, and i do not know. Also, i wonder if it works on buildings? Vilagers?

Lord JayVizIon
08-05-2001, 12:49 AM
in AoK, buildings did not have shields, and neither did starcraft (with the exception of the protoss). however, this is star wars, so you never know. i'm going to be willing to say that the faamba's will only protect units, but that's a good question for no other than mr. fixit......

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 12:50 AM
Well each side has shield generators (i.e. rebel shield/Hoth) so I don't really see the need for the worry over the buildings. And villagers are units so they probably do. Super Villagers!!

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 12:52 AM
Look at this if you must
http://www.mrfixitonline.com/attachments/swbg_shields.jpg

Shields
You can build shield generators in SWGB that double the HPs of your units and buildings. Furthermore - the shield regenerates when it takes hits. The generators are buildings and they have a radius so using them for offense is a bit tricky. They also have to be powered by a power core to go into effect. A forward base with shields on it can be very difficult to deal with.

Lord JayVizIon
08-05-2001, 12:56 AM
another thing to is that if you place units who were previously injured into them, they rejuvenate gradually and not instantaneously......pretty cool strategy......

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 01:06 AM
didn't know that one...

Paragon_Leon
08-05-2001, 09:49 AM
Shields will be a unique aspect of strategy, that's for sure..

On the houses topic: in AOK, some players used to build houses in a row to create a natural kind of wall. That way they served two purposes. I think it's only natural if a Star Wars civ has houses. The Imps could call it army-barracks, but that's probably already the name of their infantry-factory.

Young David
08-05-2001, 11:18 AM
I use houses as a defense (I don't even build walls). I keep my houses 3 squares from my towncenter like a 'C'. I keep the opening on the side away from the enemies and within the civil wall I built farms and where there is a free square somewhere I might built a tower ... It's a cheap way to defend my towncenter from enemy raids ...

Paragon_Leon
08-05-2001, 11:22 AM
That strategy will almost certainly work with GB as well, considering they have houses. The only thing that's different is that you can now have shields too, meaning that if you have enough troops IN your base, you are pretty safe from any outside attack. After all troops would have to get through the shield to disable it.

In AOK; units could hide in towncenters, and you would see arrows coming out of TC's. The more units inside, the more arrows. Think we'll see lasers in GB ??

Young David
08-05-2001, 12:18 PM
Well, maybe ... but it wouldn't make sense in this case. Some civs have workerdroids ... and it might be against their program to shoot a blaster.

Tie Guy
08-05-2001, 01:38 PM
LOL that sounds about right.

Anyways, on the topic of shields. Did it occure to anyone that a base with a shield is gonna be very dificult to accack succefully. I hope that they don't unbalance the game too, much. Afterall, this is new, so it may need some work to be balanced.

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 01:54 PM
It is pretty well balanced. Ithink each Civ gets shield Generators for their base. It is only the Gungans who have mobile Shields.

Tie Guy
08-05-2001, 02:32 PM
You may each have a shield, but that doesn't mean that you can attack another base more easily. It is like giving a base twice the defenseive units, which means that you gotta be really determined to take out a shielded base.

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 04:41 PM
Or that means you have got to use all your flying units and make a grand assault on the shield. than attack the base with ground units.
:tie: :tie: ====:explode:
Charge!! :atat: :atat: :atat:

Tie Guy
08-05-2001, 05:19 PM
Yeah, but a good base would have air defenses, and the buildings inside would still have double HP, making them harder to kill. All your units would probably get shot down while trying to destryo the shield.

Another Question: Do you guy think that if you build two shields and they overlap the building/unit will have 4 times the HP, or have 2 the regen rate?

Paragon_Leon
08-05-2001, 05:21 PM
No, i don't think so. i think that if you have one shield generator up, a second has no extra effect. the second one will however take over once the first one is destroyed...

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 05:22 PM
hmm that brings a question to mind. Does each side have towers that are AA guns or do they just have mobile AA guns?:confused:

Paragon_Leon
08-05-2001, 05:25 PM
Each side has SOME sort of AA-gun tower and also some sort of blaster-cannon. in whatever form or shape they'd come..

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 05:26 PM
Where did you here about AA towers?

Paragon_Leon
08-05-2001, 05:29 PM
I didn't hear specifically about AA-towers, but every side has air-defense towers in whatever form they come. There's a pic in PC Gamer that really shows off the Trade Federation towers that way..

Lord JayVizIon
08-05-2001, 05:30 PM
there's a pic of a gungan tower in one of the shots, so we're assuming that it's an anti air tower. in any rts game with air units, there has to be anit air towers that can defend your base or else you're SOL. yes, good pt leon, two shields doesn't increase your hp by 4, rather if one is destroyed the othe takes over makes a lot of sense.....if not, you'll see the biggest horde of faamba generators you'll ever see......:D

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 06:07 PM
in any rts game with air units, there has to be anit air towers that can defend your base or else you're SOL

Or your Emporor Battle for Dune!!!:mad:
Sorry Just Venting.

Tie Guy
08-05-2001, 06:40 PM
I'm guessing that in Emperor: Battle for Dune didn't have AA Towers :D

anyways, i figured the shields couldn't overlap, and hopefully the designers didn't overlook that possiblity when making the game. That could make for some really overbalanced play.

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 06:58 PM
Emporor Battle for Dune didn't have any AA guns to counter the vast array of fighters. Well it doesn't have any AA guns for the first month after the game comes out. After that you may get them in the game!:mad:

TheJackal_jk2
08-05-2001, 07:50 PM
[img]http://www.galacticbattles.com/multimedia/screenshots/18.jpg[/mg]

I dont think those are houses

Paragon_Leon
08-05-2001, 07:52 PM
well, i think they are... see those few lines of stairs before the entrance ? that's why i gather they are houses. Gungans have some strange architecture anyway...

darthfergie
08-05-2001, 07:59 PM
Yes they are houses. Mr.Fixit (someone who has played the game) confirmed it.:D

Tie Guy
08-05-2001, 09:37 PM
Well, there you have it.

Besides, those are exactly like the the bubles in the movie, and if you look at other screens i think you can see the exact same thing above water, meaning they could only be houses.

What would be cool is if they had underwater boat defenses, sorta like torpedo pods underwater.

darthfergie
08-06-2001, 12:40 AM
That would be very nice...but very cheap. The Gungans already have enough unique things...;)