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Darth Darkus
09-02-2009, 07:42 AM
Hi guys and girls, I'm pretty new to the whole modding and skinning stuff and my question is the following: is it possible to place a photo of a real person as a texture on any of the heads in TSL (with some editing off course) ? I have downloaded the KotoR tool but I didn't figure out how it works yet but I've already seen lots of tuts concerning that so I'll get it to work I guess....

jonathan7
09-02-2009, 08:07 AM
It's theoretically possible however I'm unconvinced as to how well it would turn out, you would need a photo editing suite such as GIMP (which is free); http://www.gimp.org/ or Photoshop (You can download CS2 free and legally here; http://www.toggle.com/lv/group/view/kl34537/Adobe_Photoshop_CS2.htm )

Then you will need to extract out the textures of the head you want to edit, and replace them with the new ones - you could do this by editing the current pictures and then saving them as .tga's in your "Override" folder.

Hope that helps, and welcome to the Forums!

Canderis
09-02-2009, 08:07 AM
You could do that. It would be hard though. You would have too break the picture up and get it to fit just right in the texture. Its not like just paste it on and done. You'll see how hard this would be once you get ktool working and look at a few textures.


EDIT: J7 beat me.

Darth Darkus
09-02-2009, 08:18 AM
thanks for the replies! and to the mod: sorry I'll keep that in mind! just wasn't shure where to post it....

I have photoshop cs3 and I work with photoshop since 5 years now but until now I only did 2D stuff like flyers and stuff....
but I'll try your tips out and let you know if and how well it worked out!

jonathan7
09-02-2009, 08:24 AM
thanks for the replies! and to the mod: sorry I'll keep that in mind! just wasn't shure where to post it....

I'm the Mod, you don't need to apologise, your new, the mod note was only for future referance ;) -- j7

I have photoshop cs3 and I work with photoshop since 5 years now but until now I only did 2D stuff like flyers and stuff.... but I'll try your tips out and let you know if and how well it worked out!

If your already skilled in Photoshop I look forward to seeing your work, textures are pretty simple; they rap around the model, so they are in a 2d canvas anyway. You may find this thread helpful with regards textures; http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=144809 ;) If your having issues with KotOR Tool have you got the latest Microsoft Framework IIRC K-Tool needs that to run.

Darth Darkus
09-02-2009, 08:36 AM
I'm the Mod, you don't need to apologise, your new, the mod note was only for future referance ;) -- j7

:D ok!

If your already skilled in Photoshop I look forward to seeing your work, textures are pretty simple; they rap around the model, so they are in a 2d canvas anyway. You may find this thread helpful with regards textures; http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?t=144809 ;) If your having issues with KotOR Tool have you got the latest Microsoft Framework IIRC K-Tool needs that to run.

I have microsoft .net framework 3.5 wich I needed to get my GTA 4 mods to work but I guess that's not the same.... in the mentioned thread is picture of a facial texture; is that how it looks? it seems to be a little cut off...

jonathan7
09-02-2009, 08:45 AM
I have microsoft .net framework 3.5 wich I needed to get my GTA 4 mods to work but I guess that's not the same....

Yeah thats the right one, must be another issue.

in the mentioned thread is picture of a facial texture; is that how it looks? it seems to be a little cut off...

Thats because the game mirrors the textures; so it only requires half a face.

Darth Darkus
09-02-2009, 08:47 AM
ok thanks I'll try and get to work right away and post something asap

TriggerGod
09-02-2009, 05:06 PM
Hi guys and girls, I'm pretty new to the whole modding and skinning stuff and my question is the following: is it possible to place a photo of a real person as a texture on any of the heads in TSL (with some editing off course) ? I have downloaded the KotoR tool but I didn't figure out how it works yet but I've already seen lots of tuts concerning that so I'll get it to work I guess....

If you wanted to photosource a face picture onto an existing head model, you'd have to make sure that your reference's features (Nose, mouth, eyes, hair) matches the head you wish to edit fairly well. If you know how to use photoshop well enough, you can easily move around parts, and make it look natural.

I found a tutorial a while ago when I was curious on how people who model their heads make the textures so good. I found this (http://www.3dtotal.com/tutorials/face_texturing/) tutorial that taught me how. I'm sure there are other tutorials out there that teach you how to do it better.

Darth Darkus
09-03-2009, 10:13 AM
ok! I started trying yesterday and of course it didn't come out the way I wanted it to.

triggergod: thanx for the tut that might be very helpfull! As you already mentioned there are problems with the size of the head...

I'm not shure if I can post it here but I also can't post it in the modders section because it'S still WIP. Modders feel free to move anything that doesn't belong here!

ok this is the reskin I did with parts of my own face. I also made the darkside hair a little darker 'cause I felt it would look better than grey.
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv37/DarthDarkus/PMHC04A.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv37/DarthDarkus/PMHC04AD1.jpg
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv37/DarthDarkus/PMHC04AD2.jpg

and this is the character selection screenshot
http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv37/DarthDarkus/INGAME.jpg

if you take look at my avatar you can tell it doesn't look anything like me at all....
so I figured I could:
a) try another head
b) try to resize the parts of my face I used
c) try to modify the head

jonathan7
09-03-2009, 10:21 AM
ok! I started trying yesterday and of course it didn't come out the way I wanted it to. I will open a new thread in the modders section.....

triggergod: thanx for the tut that might be very helpfull! As you already mentioned there are problems with the size of the head...

Just keep posting here - this is already in the modders section ;)

Mono_Giganto
09-03-2009, 11:00 AM
If you're looking for a head with a beard you might want to check www.kotorfiles.com and download any of the edits to Dopak's head; that might work for what you're trying to do.

VarsityPuppet
09-03-2009, 01:35 PM
Yeah, it doesn't look like your avatar, but even so, it's still an awesome texture!

I think I may to try making my own head...

Oh yes, Darkus... you should release those textures (the ones posted above) as a new head. If you'd like, I can make a portrait and set up a TSLpatcher for you. ;)

Darth Darkus
09-04-2009, 12:23 AM
I have made some others, I'll post them later .... and sorry but what exactly does TSLPatcher do?

Mono_Giganto
09-04-2009, 12:26 AM
I have made some others, I'll post them later .... and sorry but what exactly does TSLPatcher do?

It's a utility made by stoffe that allows .2da files to be edited more dynamically. Essentially, instead of including preset, mass-conflicting .2da files, it'll append your info to the end of the user's .2da files, essentially negating .2da conflicts.

Darth Darkus
09-04-2009, 12:38 AM
If you're looking for a head with a beard you might want to check www.kotorfiles.com and download any of the edits to Dopak's head; that might work for what you're trying to do.

they actually look very well but what I really am looking for is a head with full and long facial hair (longer than the dopak head and not just the goatie but the whole beard) and it would be even cooler if he had long hair to it...

giganto thanx for the info!

Mono_Giganto
09-04-2009, 12:47 AM
they actually look very well but what I really am looking for is a head with full and long facial hair (longer than the dopak head and not just the goatie but the whole beard) and it would be even cooler if he had long hair to it...

giganto thanx for the info!

No problem. :)

Well, a few of the Dopak edits to texture on a full beard, but otherwise that's all I can think of. The beard on Jorran is a bit bushy, but maybe that would work?

VarsityPuppet
09-04-2009, 01:21 AM
they actually look very well but what I really am looking for is a head with full and long facial hair (longer than the dopak head and not just the goatie but the whole beard) and it would be even cooler if he had long hair to it...

giganto thanx for the info!

The General Vaklu head has a beard.. short hair.. but it does have a beard.

Really, do release your skins. The one you posted looks really awesome

Darth Darkus
09-04-2009, 02:11 AM
The General Vaklu head has a beard.. short hair.. but it does have a beard.

Really, do release your skins. The one you posted looks really awesome

I will! I only don't know where I'm going to upload the .tga files yet... I have 'em all here in a zip file but I'm at work and filehosting sites are blocked by our admin...

Darth Darkus
09-04-2009, 02:20 AM
No problem. :)

Well, a few of the Dopak edits to texture on a full beard, but otherwise that's all I can think of. The beard on Jorran is a bit bushy, but maybe that would work?

hahaha I just noticed that I can scroll down for multiple quotes but ok! I already made a full beard on the "mexican" head with long hair

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv37/DarthDarkus/PMHH01.jpg

selection screen:

http://i667.photobucket.com/albums/vv37/DarthDarkus/Image.jpg

also edited the eyes and put my facial parts on again (I love myself hahaha)
beard is the same from the the caucasian dude I edited before....

VarsityPuppet
09-04-2009, 10:02 PM
Not bad! I'd suggest adding some texture to the eyebrows though.. and blending the beard into the skin a bit better.

Since his face is flat, the beard might look a bit better if it wasn't so full.

Darth Darkus
09-05-2009, 11:30 AM
you're right with the eyebrows. with the beard: yeah the blending could've been better but I played a while with it and didn't notice anything looking wrong ingame but I'll try to improve it!

CrisG
09-05-2009, 03:43 PM
wow, nice work. i look forward to being able to try these in game, thanks for sharing yoru progress. it is looking very nice.