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Natty
03-25-2001, 09:11 PM
First of all, I would like to apologize for posting this topic in the clues and hints forum, but since it has to do with this topic that's why I've posted it here

OK, first of all, I know there's some new people out there who have joined this forum, however, there are also some people who have been on this forum for a month, maybe more and still these people continue to post solutions on here, even though it's being stated NO WALKTHROUGHS.

I understand that some of you may think you're doing some good, and you are doing good, but the purpose of this forum is to give hints to people who are stuck, they're here coz they just want a little push in the right direction. If people want a walkthrough, then they can either consult the walkthrough on this site
http://www.escapemi.com/gamecodes.html

or ask that someone emails them the step by step process of what to do- I don't think it's that much of a difficult thing to do, but by giving the people the walkthrough, you're not only spoiling it for the people who ask for the hint, but any unsuspecting people in the future who may come along and look at old posts that are to do with the particular spot they're are stuck on, looking for a hint to get them going, but instead the find a walkthrough.

Maybe instead of saying something like "feed the parrots the grog and get one of them drunk so you can tell them apart, so then you can find the bronze hat" just say something along the lines of "you need to be able to tell the parrots apart, so give them something that will make you be able to tell them apart" or use your imagination, give creative and cryptic answers, cryptic answers are great

If you're not sure what classes as a walkthrough and what classes as a hint or clue- try emailing someone just to clarify the differences

Sorry to those this message doesn't concern- I will be interested to see if any of those people will take note of this (they probably won't they haven't taken notice so far)
but almost every topic these days has at least one walkthrough in it- OK, so I may have already finished the game, a lot of people have it's no big deal, but it is a big deal when unsuspecting people come onto this forum to look for a clue or a hint and then find, what they thought would be a clue, ends up being a 10page essayed walkthrough. (And sorry for this being so long however I felt it needed to be said)



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Mafex the golden monkey
03-25-2001, 09:52 PM
Hear hear. I know that on when I was completing the game it was really annoying having entire solutions thrust apon you.
And making your clues cryptic can be a fun puzzle as well.

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Rufio
03-26-2001, 01:32 AM
now if anyone reads this and takes it to heart, my job will be SOOO much easier!

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Frenchyd
03-26-2001, 02:01 AM
then you shall be deleted. muahahaha
BMWAHAHAHA

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grannen
03-26-2001, 10:46 AM
Natty is of course right but the sad thing is that there will always be newcomers who doesn't read previous Topics like this re Spoilers and Solutions, don't understand the meaning what Clues & Hints stands for and are so eager to show that they have the complete answer that they will destroy the fun in solving problems.

When you know the answer, then the fun is to give a good Hint that doesn't give away too much but makes the player to think about the answer. Not an answer like "Go to the X Shop and pick up the bla-bla" but more like "Have you found something useful in one of those Shops?"

To figure out a good Hint is a challenge. To give away a Solution is an indication of lack of fantasy!


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Al-back from the BigWhoop
03-27-2001, 01:20 AM
"To figure out a good Hint is a challenge. To give away a Solution is an indication of lack of fantasy!"
WOW, THAT WAS DEEP... what does it mean?
kidding.

I agree with you, Natty and all the rest of you guys.
I think besides newcomers, there are always mean spoilers and lazy people that can't make up hints.

I think we also should "sign" this as a form of protest (besides, a topic w 1000 replies causes more impact)

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Al
03-27-2001, 01:31 AM
I agree with every word Al-back says, but I also think that the problem is generated (also) by people too lazy to look for a site of walkthroughs and asks them here.
When someone asked for one walktrough, Pecker gave him the walktrough, but surrounded by many warining. That was good idea. I mean, it was better than just giving the walkthrough without any warining, but I think that, in the situation we are facing now (all these spoilers going crazy) it would be more effective to just expell them!
THE SPOILERS AND WALKTHROUGH SEEKERS ARE OUT OF CONTROL!!!!!!

fine that was exagerated, but I think theyr abusing it, and theyve got to stop.

By the way GOOD JOB NATTY!

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Natty
03-27-2001, 03:49 AM
I don't mind so much if someone says something like

WARNING SPOILER

and then proceeds to scroll down a bit like such

so at least then people aren't confronted with the walkthrough straigh on and have the oppertunity to click the back button or something, but many people launch right into it and say "right well if you do this and then go and do that blah blah blah blah" many people have read a walkthrough without meaning to, and that's what I get frustrated about, and sometimes it feels like people deliberatly don't listen to the requests of "please no walkthroughs" and do it deliberatly just to annoy other people, I mean saying something like "please don't post walkthroughs in the forum, it's not what this forum is all about" really sound bytchy or rude?

I had to say it, because it has being bugging me for ages and I find it terribly frustrating when you see people posting a hint under someones question and then some bozo goes and posts a walkthrough- I mean why bother trying to help people if someone is going to spoil it for everyone else? http://www.escapemi.com/forums/mad.gif

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MagnusB
03-27-2001, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by me.
Zero: You should write above the topics with big writing: Before you post a topic about help for something, read this.
Inside it would say something like:
A) Check for recent topics labelled with the same problem as the one you have.
B) Search for a keyword to your problem. Ex.: Monkey Kombat.
C) Don`t post your question in someone else`s topic, make your own topic, and don`t post in other forums than the Clues and Hints forum.
D) Don`t post your question multiple times, one is enough.
You could also write something about answering to topics. Like: Do not give away solutions to people asking for help, only clues and hints, as that is what this forum is for.

Tell me what you think. Personally I think it would solve some problems here in this forum.

I am quoting myself from the topic

Originally posted by me.
Zero: You should write above the topics with big writing: Before you post a topic about help for something, read this.
Inside it would say something like:
A) Check for recent topics labelled with the same problem as the one you have.
B) Search for a keyword to your problem. Ex.: Monkey Kombat.
C) Don`t post your question in someone else`s topic, make your own topic, and don`t post in other forums than the Clues and Hints forum.
D) Don`t post your question multiple times, one is enough.
You could also write something about answering to topics. Like: Do not give away solutions to people asking for help, only clues and hints, as that is what this forum is for.

Tell me what you think. Personally I think it would solve some problems here in this forum.

I am quoting myself from the topic

Originally posted by me.
Zero: You should write above the topics with big writing: Before you post a topic about help for something, read this.
Inside it would say something like:
A) Check for recent topics labelled with the same problem as the one you have.
B) Search for a keyword to your problem. Ex.: Monkey Kombat.
C) Don`t post your question in someone else`s topic, make your own topic, and don`t post in other forums than the Clues and Hints forum.
D) Don`t post your question multiple times, one is enough.
You could also write something about answering to topics. Like: Do not give away solutions to people asking for help, only clues and hints, as that is what this forum is for.

Tell me what you think. Personally I think it would solve some problems here in this forum.

I am quoting myself from the topic Looking for Help (http://www.escapemi.com/forums/Forum3/HTML/001951.html), because I want to hear ZeroXcape respond to this, I think it's a good idea, what do you think?




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Natty
03-27-2001, 10:16 PM
me agrees with Magnus, more often than not these days I see something like the first 3topics are something to do with monkey combat and then there's a few on looking for the bronze hat under the rock and them some various bits and pieces to do with other parts of the game- I honestly don't mind people helping out other people with the game, but what really annoys me is more often than not it seems people don't read past posts, and if you read the recent topics, most people are having the same problem like "which rock is the bronze hat under?" and "I can't tell the parrots apart, what do I do?" If people need to use a walkthrough, then ask if someone can email it to you or do what Pecker did in Samclay's post- I don't mind so much when it's like what he did, because at least he gave the warning that there was a spoiler coming up and then he gave the
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break thingo to let people know that if they wanted to see it they would have to scroll down, many people just launch right into it saying stuff like "right what you need to do is get this then go here and use this with the thingie then take the thingie and use it with whatchamacallit blah blah blah blah" and that's what I'm annoyed about coz it spoils the fun for everyone else http://www.escapemi.com/forums/frown.gif

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[This message has been edited by Natty (edited March 27, 2001).]

guybrush5000
03-28-2001, 05:15 PM
natty, someone asked me for a solution, so i gave them one. It is none of your buisness if me or any1 else gives out solutions. just cause it annoys u, then think of all the struggling players of monkey island who need help, i am sure that not being able to do something is annoying. so i'm sure every one will like u to keep your opinions to yourself!

guybrush5000
03-28-2001, 05:15 PM
natty, someone asked me for a solution, so i gave them one. It is none of your buisness if me or any1 else gives out solutions. just cause it annoys u, then think of all the struggling players of monkey island who need help, i am sure that not being able to do something is annoying. so i'm sure every one will like u to keep your opinions to yourself!

p.s i am guybrush2003

grannen
03-28-2001, 06:26 PM
No, none of us will keep our opinion for ourselves when we read spoilers. If a single person wants a walkthrough there are lots of them to be found.
Therefore you have no need to brag here about you knowledge, e-mail the answers to those who wants it or publish the link to the walkthrough.
We want this Forum CLEAN from all sorts of direct solutions.


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KeepRollin
03-28-2001, 06:33 PM
natty why do you car eso much when sombody posts a solution???????

KeepRollin
03-28-2001, 06:33 PM
natty why do you care so much when sombody posts a solution???????

KeepRollin
03-28-2001, 06:34 PM
hey guybrush!!!!!!!

Originally posted by guybrush5000:
natty, someone asked me for a solution, so i gave them one. It is none of your buisness if me or any1 else gives out solutions. just cause it annoys u, then think of all the struggling players of monkey island who need help, i am sure that not being able to do something is annoying. so i'm sure every one will like u to keep your opinions to yourself!

p.s i am guybrush2003

Natty
03-28-2001, 09:48 PM
I wouldn't mind so much if people gave a warning that they're going to post a walkthough and then have a bit of a break between the warning and the actual walkthrough so that those who don't wanna see the walkthough don't see it, what annoys me is that most people just start off the message and say something like "right first of all do this and then that and then go to la la land and take the thingie and go back to the haunted castle" or something and those who don't wanna see it end up seeing it coz they went to that particular topic to get some ideas- I mean is asking that people have a break or something before they post a walkthough too much of a difficult thing to do? It probably is coz most people are too friggen lazy to A. Try and work the game out for themselves B. Are to damn stupid to understand a clue or a hint and C. Those who post walkthoughs obviously don't undrerstand what clues and hints means

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DiScO StU
03-29-2001, 12:52 AM
i have nothing wrong with you guys giving peeps solutions, just try to e-mail it to them.

samclay99
03-31-2001, 01:11 PM
i think that when you come on this site you want to SOLVE your problem not be more confused so tell people if they want a walkthrough or a clue and it will be much easier samclay99 the best in the world
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and how`d`y put pictures on yur reply

DiScO StU
03-31-2001, 01:27 PM
if ppl want a walkthrough, then why don`t they just go to a site with one, but i have nothing wrong with peeps coming here and asking for a good straigh answer, no clue or hints, just don`t post it on the board send it to there e-mail, or get them to e-mail you for help.

guybrush5000
03-31-2001, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by KeepRollin:
hey guybrush!!!!!!!



hey keeprolin sorry i couldn't go into the town!

i am bored
08-17-2001, 05:15 PM
ok natty. i am back. and thats to all u suckas out there.
when i posted a walkthorugh (wot a classic stunt) it was v. long. so ppl r gonna see the 1st part of it, bla bla bla. and all that stuff. so it will then hit them (if they r intelligent enough) they will think "omg, this is a walktru. fone the police!" so they will not read it. they will simply scroll thru. but u had to bring it upon me and moan. well i tell u natty, the only reason i did it. wos because u were so annoying that i could kill u. and no1 @ this forum would like that. (u must all be blind) anyway. i told u about the english test i got.....i passed. i am in general credit for english for my standard grades. and u cant do anything about it.
i will tyoe it out l8er. and copy and paste. so u can all read it.
god i am so bored.
anyway.............
i will post my story soon.

cya

Natty
08-17-2001, 11:26 PM
STUUUUUUUUUUUPID NUMBERS http://www.escapemi.com/forums/biggrin.gif HUNNNNY HOW YOU BEEN? I'VE MISSED YOUUUUUUU

I was thinking about you the other day, I'm glad to see that you haven't forgotten me, see I know he wants me coz he keeps coming back trying to get my attention. I think it's cute, if you had been a few weeks earlier, you coulda stopped the wedding between me and Brighty, and now you and me coulda been married, but that's OK, I'm sure Brighty is much better in bed than what you are (he's also a better father)

I don't really understand you though, you don't like us but you keep coming back http://www.escapemi.com/forums/confused.gif Silly me, I know why you keep coming back, it's coz deep down you like me and you're trying to get my attention. How kyoote http://www.escapemi.com/forums/smile.gif



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Lester McCracken
08-18-2001, 04:02 AM
Silly newbies, drugs are for molested tree frog faeces! (Okay, I'm new here, but I judge newbie-ism by how they follow the rules and/or do things).

I shall explain your way, Mr. I-Passed-English-Yet-I-Don't-Show-It:

"u shee, wen u postt aw altkru evem if dey shee dda beginig it mite be spoyed for dem. wut u dant git iz dat dis iz a CLUZ &8 HENTS FROUM!!!!!!!!!!! sum peeple git a senes uv saatsfactiom frum sulvin a pussle evem frum a cwyptric pussle. k k k k k k k k k k k ??? if peeple wunts a walthru dey shud asc forr it and gif der emaial adrres, k k k k k k k? u den emaial dem wid de walkdru! or gib tdem ay linc too de sete? k k k k k k k k k k?"

Natty
08-18-2001, 02:01 PM
*giggles* the funniest post I've read in weeks http://www.escapemi.com/forums/biggrin.gif

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Dr._Threepwood
08-18-2001, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by samclay99:
i think that when you come on this site you want to SOLVE your problem not be more confused so tell people if they want a walkthrough or a clue and it will be much easier samclay99 the best in the world
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and how`d`y put pictures on yur reply

I remember you!! Anyway dose anyone remember my aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh (some weird senetace that has to do with emi) aaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

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MagnusB
08-18-2001, 05:31 PM
Remember him? That post was from when you would supposedly remember him from.
And yes, I remember your "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh *strange sentence* aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh"'s. http://www.escapemi.com/forums/biggrin.gif

Natty
08-19-2001, 03:23 AM
hehehehe I remember the "aaaaaaaah stupid but useful sentance aaaaaaaaah" thing http://www.escapemi.com/forums/biggrin.gif Strange as it seems, I kinda miss it http://www.escapemi.com/forums/smile.gif

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NiKo
08-19-2001, 08:12 AM
wasnt it "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. does my breath smell? aaaaaaaaaaaaahhh" ?

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Drunken_Sailor
08-20-2001, 09:32 AM
Originally posted by Natty:


Maybe instead of saying something like "feed the parrots the grog and get one of them drunk so you can tell them apart, so then you can find the bronze hat"



That sentence contains a walkthrough http://www.escapemi.com/forums/tongue.gif

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Natty
08-20-2001, 10:28 AM
You're the first person who picked that up http://www.escapemi.com/forums/tongue.gif Hmmm http://www.escapemi.com/forums/biggrin.gif It goes to show that obviously hardly anyone read the whole thing http://www.escapemi.com/forums/biggrin.gif I forgot I put a walkthrough in there... at the time I put it in there to see if anyone would pick it up, and obviously they didn't so oh well, and if they did no one said anything http://www.escapemi.com/forums/tongue.gif

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MagnusB
08-20-2001, 12:12 PM
I noticed it, but I didn't really think closer about it.....

Lester McCracken
08-20-2001, 02:09 PM
I thought you posted it on purpose, maybe to emphasize your point or something.

Natty
08-20-2001, 10:05 PM
I posted it on purpose, but mainly to see if anyone would pick it up and tell me off for posting a walkthrough http://www.escapemi.com/forums/biggrin.gif

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Freja
08-21-2001, 11:43 AM
You luvable, crazy lot, you!
WhoŽd bother to write anyone a walkthrough anyway, when LukArts done it so SSSSSSSSPLENDIDLY allready, eh??

Originally posted by Natty:
I posted it on purpose, but mainly to see if anyone would pick it up and tell me off for posting a walkthrough http://www.escapemi.com/forums/biggrin.gif

MagnusB
08-21-2001, 02:40 PM
Danmark, jeg liker Danmark....

wabbit
08-21-2001, 04:49 PM
Maybe this forum needs a new topic added, like a "Spoilers" Topic... Then there would not be anyone getting 'spoiled'!!!!! chuckle, all said in humor guys, lighten up!

...but serious, adding a 'spoiler's topic which the contents then could go beyond the so-called 'walkthroughs' would be nice for us dummies who really love fantasy but get stuck beyond our comprehension and need this child-like help in certain areas... this way the ones only wanting 'hints' would not get more than they wanted because they wouldn't enter the "spoilers" topic and this forum could stay happier without so much whinning... P/S. Not all of us want to give out our email address and some don't have email address's to give out when they use someone else's internet connections so adding the "spoilers" topic solves more problems than one!!! Sounds like a winner to me folks! http://www.escapemi.com/forums/biggrin.gif http://www.escapemi.com/forums/smile.gif http://www.escapemi.com/forums/wink.gif